Re: Do I even have constipation?

[Guest guest]

No that is normal. Keep in mind that poop is just

bacteria, food and other matter that our body can't

use or needs to get out.

You'll find that your poop is less smelly as time goes

on because of less bacteria. Also that you need to go

a lot less because your body uses all of what you give

it.

I also eat a very large quantity of veggies each day.

About 9 cups of broccoli and 3 cups of green beans

which amounts to 35+ grams of fiber, and I still don't

go very often.

Even with plenty of fiber there's not much that goes

unused.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- fernfam3 <fernfam3@...> wrote:

> I'm asking because maybe what I think is

> constipation really isnt. I

> don't have the urge to go and if I do start getting

> an urge and I sit

> on the toilet, all that passes is some gas and maybe

> 1 small round

> stool. Nothing painful though. I usually get a

> substantial bowel

> movement maybe every 3 days. I'm just calling it

> constipation because

> it's different from the stools I use to have a year

> ago. I used to go

> twice a day at around the same time.

It is a lot easier to act ourselves into new thinking than to think ourselves

into a new action.

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

> You'll find that your poop is less smelly as time goes

> on because of less bacteria. Also that you need to go

> a lot less because your body uses all of what you give

> it.

>

> Even with plenty of fiber there's not much that goes

> unused.

>

> Luv,

> Debby

Wow, I never thought about it this way. I'm still having

problems " going. " But in the past couple weeks I've been able to go a

little here and there all by myself without taking any magnesium. I

figure that is a good sign. Too much bacteria in me yet though. I did

think returning to normal would be having significant bm's daily, but

if your body is using everything up then that makes sense that you

wouldn't have all that waste to eliminate.

Thanks.

Gail

[Guest guest]

>

> These poop matters are a bit confusing to me. I read about

healthy bowel movements in the files and I thought the consensus was

that a healthy person would have a bowel movement 2-3 times a day? A

year ago, I noticed my bowel movements started changing. I used to

go easily once or twice a day and then starting about a year ago

(after having been following the dietary principles of the Weston

Price Foundation for about a year) I noticed I didnt go as much. I

just didnt have the urge. I'd love to say that it was because I just

didnt have any poop, but I don't think that's the case with me. I say

this because, if I'd get stressed out about something, than my

anxiety would affect my bowels and I'd go poop. When I DO have the

urge, it's like I have to do all the work, cuz my bowels are

slugginsh or something. I pass gass and many times the stool I pass

will be round and hard, like a golf ball. But, it's not painful and

I don't walk around all day feeling terrible. Does any of this make

sense?

Thank You for reading this,

>

[Guest guest]

If this is the case I'm guessing you need more good

fats and water to help with lubrication. Stools are

hard not because a lack of fiber but because of a lack

of water and fats that help lubricate them and keep

them from getting hard.

Fiber does not make poop softer. Going more often is

not better... it just means you have more garbage in,

therefore more garbage out.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- fernfam3 <fernfam3@...> wrote:

> urge, it's like I have to do all the work, cuz my

> bowels are

> slugginsh or something. I pass gass and many times

> the stool I pass

> will be round and hard, like a golf ball. But, it's

> not painful and

> I don't walk around all day feeling terrible. Does

> any of this make

> sense?

It is a lot easier to act ourselves into new thinking than to think ourselves

into a new action.

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

Also if your poops are too hard, more lubrication is

needed - that's good fats and more water.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- Gail <gmgblues@...> wrote:

> Wow, I never thought about it this way. I'm still

> having

> problems " going. " But in the past couple weeks I've

> been able to go a

> little here and there all by myself without taking

> any magnesium. I

> figure that is a good sign. Too much bacteria in me

> yet though. I did

> think returning to normal would be having

> significant bm's daily, but

> if your body is using everything up then that makes

> sense that you

> wouldn't have all that waste to eliminate.

It is a lot easier to act ourselves into new thinking than to think ourselves

into a new action.

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

>

> Also if your poops are too hard, more lubrication is

> needed - that's good fats and more water.

>

>

> ==> Maybe it's a water thing for me. I've been getting my

recommended fat (169 grams) of fat in my diet now for the past few

weeks which is a huge difference in what it was a few months ago, at

least double. Around a year ago, I started drinking less water than

when I was pregnant and nursing. I used to drink a glass with every

meal but when I learned through the Weston Price Foundation that water

dilutes stomach acid during meals, I would only sip on water and then

wait at least 30 minutes before drinking anything. I used to carry

liter bottles of water with me everywhere and now I don't do that. I

drink at least 3 electrolyte drinks a day, sometimes four. Then I

drink probably another 2 cups of filtered water with concentrace drops

in it throughout the day. If fiber isnt a factor in poop, than why

was Metumucil able to soften my stools after Bernie's birth? (I didnt

have constipation but I needed something that would soften my stools

enough so the stools would just slip out without any effort on my

part. (Slight vaginal tearing made BM difficult the first few days)

Does Metumucil contain a stimulant and just masquerades as a fiber drink?

Thank You,

>

> It is a lot easier to act ourselves into new thinking than to think

ourselves into a new action.

>

> My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

>

[Guest guest]

> > --- fernfam3 <fernfam3@> wrote:

> >

> > These poop matters are a bit confusing to me. I read about

> healthy bowel movements in the files and I thought the consensus

was that a healthy person would have a bowel movement 2-3 times a day?

==>, I don't know where that idea started, but I think it

came from the vegan community. Vegans do have more movements, and

they are bulkier because of all the undigested fibres. I've never in

my life had 2-3 per day except when I had diarrhea. I think 1 per

day is healthy.

> A year ago, I noticed my bowel movements started changing. I used

to go easily once or twice a day and then starting about a year ago

(after having been following the dietary principles of the Weston

Price Foundation for about a year) I noticed I didnt go as much. I

just didnt have the urge. I'd love to say that it was because I just

didnt have any poop, but I don't think that's the case with me. I say

> this because, if I'd get stressed out about something, than my

> anxiety would affect my bowels and I'd go poop. When I DO have the

> urge, it's like I have to do all the work, cuz my bowels are

> slugginsh or something. I pass gas and many times the stool I pass

will be round and hard, like a golf ball. But, it's not painful and

I don't walk around all day feeling terrible. Does any of this make

sense? Thank You for reading this,

==>When you were following the dietary principles of WAPF I believe

you started eating more meats and eggs and less carbs but you did not

eat enough fats in ratio to proteins.

Bee

[Guest guest]

> > ==> Maybe it's a water thing for me. I've been getting my

> recommended fat (169 grams) of fat in my diet now for the past few

> weeks which is a huge difference in what it was a few months ago, at

> least double. Around a year ago, I started drinking less water than

> when I was pregnant and nursing. I used to drink a glass with every

> meal but when I learned through the Weston Price Foundation that

water dilutes stomach acid during meals, I would only sip on water

and then wait at least 30 minutes before drinking anything.

==>I'm familiar with that article about digestion at WAPF and I do

not agree with the author - I think her name is . Your stomach

needs liquid to make chyme (mixture of foods and liquids) for

digestion. If you look at old movies depicting times prior to the

1900s where there are big banquets you will see that everyone is

drinking with their meals. Standard table settings include water

glasses and other beverages. Those standards are there for a good

reason.

>I used to carry liter bottles of water with me everywhere and now I

don't do that. I drink at least 3 electrolyte drinks a day,

sometimes four. Then I drink probably another 2 cups of filtered

water with concentrace drops in it throughout the day. If fiber

isnt a factor in poop, than why was Metumucil able to soften my

stools after Bernie's birth?

>(I didnt have constipation but I needed something that would soften

my stools enough so the stools would just slip out without any effort

on my part. (Slight vaginal tearing made BM difficult the first few

days) Does Metumucil contain a stimulant and just masquerades as a

fiber drink?

==>Metamucil absorbs water - from the intestines too - so what comes

out is softer but it leaves your body drier.

==>I do not believe you should drink " a lot " of water however.

Drinking too much water is unnecessary and you just run to the

bathroom and overwork your kidneys - there are articles in the Water

Folder that explains why you don't want too much water - I think a

couple are from Dr. Mercola's website.

==> I suggest you do the 9-day program in the Digestion

Folder.

Bee

[Guest guest]

> > >

>

> ==> I suggest you do the 9-day program in the Digestion

> Folder.

>

> Bee

==> yes, I was afraid you'd say that. I read about the program

in the files after you suggested it to me a few days ago. I'm worried

about what it will do to my emotions. I always get snippy and

downright mean when I'm hungry and I'm concerned about being like that

for 9 days. My poor daughter Bernadette would bear the brunt of it as

I stay home with her. Also, I'd hate to give up all my supplements,

it took me awhile to get on the ones I'm on already.

Could I maybe try the Vitamin C Flush first? I've read that file

over several times. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the point of

it is to flush out toxins that cause constipation in the first place,

so after doing the flush, my system would normalize?

I'm also not taking the digestive enzymes yet. You recommended them

to me after I told you about my green poop from taking the

Chlorophyll. I read somewhere in the files that lack of stomach acid

can cause constipation. I have the enzymes, I'm just nervous about

taking them because I don't want to throw up, which I gathered from

the files was a possibility.

Please be patient with me, I'm an anxious soul. Thanks for your

patience thus far!

[Guest guest]

Bee wrote: I suggest you do the 9-day program in the

Digestion Folder.

wrote:

> ==> yes, I was afraid you'd say that. I read about the program

> in the files after you suggested it to me a few days ago. I'm

worried about what it will do to my emotions. I always get snippy and

downright mean when I'm hungry and I'm concerned about being like

that for 9 days.

+++ there's plenty to eat on this program; it's only that it

is either soup, broth or pureed foods. Do eat your daily ratios of

proteins to good fats to carbs while you are on it.

> My poor daughter Bernadette would bear the brunt of it as I stay

home with her.

==>Knock off taking out your emotions on your daughter. That's not

okay and you can, and must, control it. Sorry, but I get quite

ticked when kids bear the brunt of anything like that.

> Also, I'd hate to give up all my supplements, it took me awhile to

get on the ones I'm on already. Could I maybe try the Vitamin C

Flush first? I've read that file over several times. Correct me if

I'm wrong but I think the point of it is to flush out toxins that

cause constipation in the first place, so after doing the flush, my

system would normalize?

==>Do what you want.

>

> I'm also not taking the digestive enzymes yet. You recommended

themto me after I told you about my green poop from taking the

> Chlorophyll. I read somewhere in the files that lack of stomach

acid can cause constipation. I have the enzymes, I'm just nervous

about taking them because I don't want to throw up, which I gathered

from the files was a possibility.

>

> Please be patient with me, I'm an anxious soul. Thanks for your

> patience thus far!

==>Sorry, but I'm not keeping my patience any more . Stop

making your own daughter miserable is all I can say.

Bee

[Guest guest]

> > ==> yes, I was afraid you'd say that. I read about the program

> > in the files after you suggested it to me a few days ago. I'm

> worried about what it will do to my emotions. I always get snippy

and downright mean when I'm hungry. My poor daughter would bear the

brunt of it.

==> My husband , read the above portion and didnt know what

I was referring to. He says I might start getting irritable if it's

coming around noontime and I'm hungry, but that I always tell him that

I'm feeling irritable and I focus on getting the meal on. He says I

don't take it out on Bernie.

The incident that was on my mind was a few weeks ago during a bad bout

of PMS where I was extremely weepy and crying for no reason. I didnt

want Bernie to see me in that state so for a few days I had to drop

her off at my Mom's house, and I felt terrible about doing that. I

guess I felt that going on the 9 day program would increase my

irritablity to such an extreme like my weepiness was and I'd find

myself again taking her over to my Mom's house until I could regain my

composure. It has never happened, but I was doing " What if thinking " .

Really all the phrase " bearing the brunt of it " reveals is my

ignorance about the correct usage of a phrase I picked up somewhere.

Anyone who knows me personally knows that I consider my role as wife

and mother my Christian vocation. God gave me my husband and daughter

to make me a saint. I grow in virtue by raising her and serving my

family. All decisions we make concerning Bernadette are made based on

the fact that we are God's children. Becoming a mother has taught me

so much about love and patience and I continue to grow and learn .

>

> ==>Knock off taking out your emotions on your daughter. That's not

> okay and you can, and must, control it. Sorry, but I get quite

> ticked when kids bear the brunt of anything like that.

You are absolutely correct!! I say that all the time and have gone

up to Moms in the grocery store who are hitting their children

because they won't stop crying. I try very hard to be above my

emotions. Again, the comment about my being, " snippy and mean " refers

to occasional bouts of irritablilty. In those bouts I try to be above

my emotions. But my bout of PMS weepiness was so extreme that I was

afraid of how bad my irritability could get. But the worse thing that

would happen is maybe a few more days with Grandma until the progam

was over.

>

> > Also, I'd hate to give up all my supplements, it took me awhile to

> get on the ones I'm on already. Could I maybe try the Vitamin C

> Flush first? I've read that file over several times. Correct me if

> I'm wrong but I think the point of it is to flush out toxins that

> cause constipation in the first place, so after doing the flush, my

> system would normalize?

>

> ==>Do what you want.

==>You were understandably angry and gave a short answer. Don't

blame you, I only blame myself for not putting more thought into

writing my concerns.

> >

> >

> >

> > Please be patient with me, I'm an anxious soul. Thanks for your

> > patience thus far!

>

> ==>Sorry, but I'm not keeping my patience any more . Stop

> making your own daughter miserable is all I can say.

>

> ==> I can actually see the hypocrisy of that last statement I made.

I'm asking you to be patient with me all the while telling you my

concerns about possible impatience with my daughter!!!! I'm so stupid.

Forgive me for writing a post that was not well- thought out and thus

took up space. I'm so sorry.

[Guest guest]

==>Knock off taking out your emotions on your daughter.

That's not okay and you can, and must, control it. Sorry, but I get

quite ticked when kids bear the brunt of anything like that.

>

>You are absolutely correct!! I say that all the time and have gone

>up to Moms in the grocery store who are hitting their children

> because they won't stop crying. I try very hard to be above my

> emotions. Again, the comment about my being, " snippy and mean "

refers to occasional bouts of irritablilty. In those bouts I try to

be above my emotions. But my bout of PMS weepiness was so extreme

that I was afraid of how bad my irritability could get. But the

worse thing that would happen is maybe a few more days with Grandma

until the progam was over.

==>You sound just like me . I defend children when I'm out

too. You must have a big heart my dear.

> Also, I'd hate to give up all my supplements, it took me awhile to

get on the ones I'm on already. Could I maybe try the Vitamin C

Flush first? I've read that file over several times. Correct me if

I'm wrong but I think the point of it is to flush out toxins that

cause constipation in the first place, so after doing the flush, my

> system would normalize?

==>Yes , you could try the vitamin C flush first and you do

not have to go off your supplements. But on the 9-day program you

wouldn't have to go off supplements either. What helps most in that

program is pureed foods and clear water enemas. I do not know

whether your system would normalize for sure after the flush. But it

won't hurt to do it.

<snip>

> Forgive me for writing a post that was not well- thought out and

thus took up space. I'm so sorry.

==>No worries . I forgive you. Please forgive yourself

too. It was a misunderstanding, and that's all. My favorite quote

is: " Do not regret yesterday, life is in you today and you make your

tomorrow. "

Love & Hugs, Bee

[Guest guest]

Metamucil is garbage.. garbage in, garbage out.

Definitely more water will help you out.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- fernfam3 <fernfam3@...> wrote:

> in it throughout the day. If fiber isnt a factor

> in poop, than why

> was Metumucil able to soften my stools after

> Bernie's birth? (I didnt

> have constipation but I needed something that would

> soften my stools

> enough so the stools would just slip out without any

> effort on my

> part. (Slight vaginal tearing made BM difficult the

> first few days)

> Does Metumucil contain a stimulant and just

> masquerades as a fiber drink?

It is a lot easier to act ourselves into new thinking than to think ourselves

into a new action.

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/