Re: Leaky gut false? QUESTIONS! stomach acid

December 31, 2007

bee

thanks for the reply i really appreciate it.

so if one has enough stomach acid, does that mean they DONT have candida?

i'm going to do the baking soda test tomorrow morning to see if my stomach

starts belching. I've taken Betaine HCL before and had horrible burning,

heartburn, etc. in my stomach.. the doc thought that maybe because my body

wasn't producing acid anymore the protective layer was gone, thus having the

burning when i started.. maybe that's true but i want to do the baking soda test

to see..

is this an accurate test?

" Baking Soda Test - For this test you will need some fresh baking soda. To

perform this test: mix one quarter teaspoon of baking soda in eight ounces of

cold water, first thing in the morning, before eating or drinking anything

except water. Drink the baking soda solution. Time how long it takes to belch.

Time up to five minutes. If you have not belched within five minutes stop timing

anyway.

If your stomach is producing adequate amounts of hydrochloric acid you should

probably belch within two to three minutes. Early and repeated belching is

consistent with excessive stomach acid. Belching results from the acid and

baking soda reacting to form carbon dioxide gas. "

Cause this would be great if i could get a good idea of my stomach acid and

put this to rest.

thanks

scott

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Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

>

> All

>

> thanks for the replies. They make sense.. because i after all

don't have any symptoms of candida.. the only ones being ALLLLL the

food allergies.. I should mention that before i changed my diet 2 1/2

years ago i ate kinda lousy.. least sugar wise and such. i took anti

inflammatories a lot because of sports and had horrible heartburn and

loose stool a lot because of the gluten and dairy.. that went away

when i cut those out.

==>I had so many " so called " allergies to foods that I could only eat

9 things in the whole world (everything else came back up so I had no

choice). See " Healing Reactions Versus Allergic Reactions. " ;

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal11.php

==>Candida causes healing reactions to many foods!

>

> I couple questions though.. first, where's the best place to

start to see the outline of this diet program? is it in the files

section?

==>I actually am setting up my new website so you can find the

program there: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu2.php

>

> second, i'm starting a very demanding job here pretty quickly,

actually an academy where they make you work out till you drop.. and

i need energy! where do i get it if i can't have carbs?

==>You get your energy from high good fats which are the very best

and most efficient source of energy for the body compared to carbs of

any kind. That's why this program works so well!

> i've been someone who works out alllllllll the time during my

life, and really don't know how to get energy.. i got so allergic to

a lot of veggies i don't know if i could eat a large enough variety.

==>You do not eat many carbs on this program (carbs are any foods

that aren't classified as protein or fat). This program is high in

good fats and moderate protein from animals, fish and eggs, and low

carbs. You can figure out your ratios; see the link above.

>

> also, does NAET work with acupuncture for your guys' food

allergies?

==>It helps, but the only thing that turns around any " supposed "

allergies is by building up the immune system. All of my food

sensititives are non-existent now, except for foods that are

adulterated, toxic or damaging.

> i had it done without acup. and it didn't.. but someone told me

that you have to do it with the needles or it wont work a lot of the

time. depends on whos doing it too.

==>I had accupressure and it works well too. Also you can do Shiatzu

on yourself.

>

> also, if your problem is NOT candida, and it's something like,

parasites, or mercury toxicity, or something along those lines, will

this diet kill the parasites as well?

==>Yes, parasites are there for the same reason candida is: a

depressed immune system. The antifungals recommended kill parasites.

The high good saturated fats and others on this program are the best

chelators of heavy metals in the world! Good fats also cleanse the

body. They are the very best antioxidants every!

>

> i tend to get sensitive to supps if i take too many too long, i

hope that doesn't screw up doing this.. and i should mention every

time i take digestive enzymes i get mucousy stools (i dont think i

spelled that right) and then a bloated contipation feeling as i take

them.. does this mean i DONT need them?

==>No, that does not mean you do not need them. All candida

sufferers have low stomach acid. Mucus is formed throughout the body

in order to clean out, clear out toxins, so it is a good sign.

Bloating is caused by candida producing carbon dioxide (gas).

my stool test never showed undigested fibers in my food so i

thought i was okay, but a doc keeps insisting i have a hydrochloric

acid deficiency or something.

==>You should take Betaine Hydrochloric Acid tablets as I recommend

in my candida article, and also see the Digestion information at my

website: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu4_2.php

>

> anyways, sorry for all the questions, and i'll read up in the

files section, but these things were really sticking out in my mind.

>

Take good care . Read first and then ask questions my friend.

Happy New Year!

Bee

>

January 1, 2008

>

> bee, thanks for the reply i really appreciate it.

>

> so if one has enough stomach acid, does that mean they DONT have

candida?

==> How could anyone come to that conclusion? Candida is caused by a

depressed immune system and an overload of toxins, not by one factor,

namely low stomach acid. Candida growth in the stomach causes low

stomach acid and the modern diet high in toxins, sugars and carbs.

>

> i'm going to do the baking soda test tomorrow morning to see if

my stomach starts belching. I've taken Betaine HCL before and had

horrible burning, heartburn, etc. in my stomach.. the doc thought

that maybe because my body wasn't producing acid anymore the

protective layer was gone, thus having the burning when i started..

maybe that's true but i want to do the baking soda test to see..

is this an accurate test?

==>No, the test isn't always accurate so I am going to be deleting

it. The reason your protective layer is gone is because the stomach

also makes bicarbonate of soda (baking soda) which protects the

lining of the stomach. If the stomach doesn't make enough HCl it

won't be making enough baking soda.

Bee

January 1, 2008

Bee

very interesting.. so how does one start taking HCL if they can't tolerate it

because the protective layer is gone? do you start with a small dose or

something? that's why i get so frustrated because it seems i'm stuck in limbo

with no real clear answers to what i have going on.. no doc has ever been able

to pinpoint a cause and just say, do this.. that's probably why your diet is

popular.

what happens though if one DOES have food allergies to specific foods that one

needs to eat, say to coconut oil or olive oil? do you recommend fighting

through the symptoms and just keep eating it? because a lot of docs say stay

away from what your reacting too.. and like myself, if i start reacting to

something i feel SO much better if i stop eating it. i read your allergic vs.

healing reactions.. but how do you know if what you are experiencing is NOT a

healing reaction, but your body actually not liking something?

thanks bee, happy new year everybody.

scott

Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

>

> bee, thanks for the reply i really appreciate it.

>

> so if one has enough stomach acid, does that mean they DONT have

candida?

==> How could anyone come to that conclusion? Candida is caused by a

depressed immune system and an overload of toxins, not by one factor,

namely low stomach acid. Candida growth in the stomach causes low

stomach acid and the modern diet high in toxins, sugars and carbs.

>

> i'm going to do the baking soda test tomorrow morning to see if

my stomach starts belching. I've taken Betaine HCL before and had

horrible burning, heartburn, etc. in my stomach.. the doc thought

that maybe because my body wasn't producing acid anymore the

protective layer was gone, thus having the burning when i started..

maybe that's true but i want to do the baking soda test to see..

is this an accurate test?

==>No, the test isn't always accurate so I am going to be deleting

it. The reason your protective layer is gone is because the stomach

also makes bicarbonate of soda (baking soda) which protects the

lining of the stomach. If the stomach doesn't make enough HCl it

won't be making enough baking soda.

Bee

January 1, 2008

>

> Bee

>

> very interesting.. so how does one start taking HCL if they can't

tolerate it because the protective layer is gone? do you start with

a small dose or something? that's why i get so frustrated because it

seems i'm stuck in limbo with no real clear answers to what i have

going on.. no doc has ever been able to pinpoint a cause and just

say, do this.. that's probably why your diet is popular.

==>Your whole protective layer wouldn't be gone or you would be up

chucking at lot. My stomach was my worst problem when I cured my

candida 20 years ago. At one point in time I could only eat 9 foods

in the whole world (everything else came back up so I had no

choice). However all of my supplements stayed down, including HCl.

I had a history of ulcers, bleeding esophagus, heartburn, hiatal

hernia, etc.

==>I suggest you try one of these two things:

1) Take 1/2 tsp of baking soda in water 1/2 hour before your meal.

Then in the middle of the meal take 1 HCl capsule, and take another

one 40 minutes after your meal. If your stomach burns take more

baking soda in water; sipping it only until the burning stops. But

if you have nausea, heartburn, heaviness (like food isn't digesting)

take another HCl.

2) Take 2 tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil by the spoonful just

before your meal. In the middle of the meal take 1 HCl capsule, and

take another one 40 minutes after your meal. If your stomach burns

take more baking soda in water; sipping it only until the burning

stops. But if you have nausea, heartburn, heaviness (like food isn't

digesting) take another HCl.

Let me know if either of these methods helps you.

>

> what happens though if one DOES have food allergies to specific

foods that one needs to eat, say to coconut oil or olive oil?

==>This is from my article " Allergies, What They Are & How to Treat

Them " ; http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/allergy1.php

" An allergy is defined as: " A condition in which the body has an

exaggerated response to a substance introduced by inhalation,

ingestion, injection, or skin contact, often manifested by itchy

eyes, runny nose, wheezing, skin rash, hives, diarrhea, gas,

bloating, headaches, aching muscles, joint pain, and many others.

Please note that these reactions are exactly the same symptoms as

healing reactions.

These reactions are created by the immune system, as a healing

response, indicating that it is working very hard to eliminate and/or

minimize the effects of toxic overloads on the body, or the ingestion

of a poison. Candida overgrowth itself contributes over 79 different

types of toxins, most of which are alcohol. Handling this overload is

like trying to handle a hangover every single day of your life until

you get rid of the candida overgrowth. There are many other toxic

sources in our environment and foods as well, which add to the toxic

overload on the body. Some substances aren't merely toxic, but act

just like poison, which causes direct debilitating damage.

It is widely published that allergies are caused by a depressed

immune system. At the same time allergic responses and symptoms means

the immune system is working extremely hard. When the immune system

isn't working up to par, it results in a total breakdown, so that

bacteria, viruses or diseases, such as cancer, are allowed to take

over. However, a healthy immune system is designed to destroy

bacteria, viruses, cancer cells, etc.

Many people mistakenly assume they are allergic to many healthy

foods, herbs, spices, etc. because of allergy tests or body

reactions, which doctors also label as allergic. Please note that

almost all allergy tests are inaccurate and they should not be relied

upon to determine your allergies. Some allergies are obvious, because

they are caused by toxic substances, i.e. room deodorizers, smoke,

chemicals - in the air, body care products, cleaning products, etc.),

smog, chemtrails, pesticides, etc. But allergies to animal dander,

dust mites, dust, mold, pollen, etc. are less obvious. However, not

everyone reacts negatively to these substances, which obviously

points to a depressed immune system in those that do.

It is a fact that the body can react to good unadulterated foods

with " allergic-like " symptoms too, exactly the same way it reacts to

toxins or poisons.

However reactions to good foods are not allergic reactions, they are

healing reactions. When the body receives nutrients it needs to heal,

it goes into high gear, doing its job of healing, which creates

healing symptoms. The long list of healing symptoms are exactly the

same as the long list of allergic reactions, i.e. increased mucus in

all mucus membranes (nose, sinuses, throat, lungs, intestines,

stomach, etc.), headaches, stomach upset, gas, bloating, difficulty

breathing, inflammation, heart palpitations, swelling, rashes, hives,

diarrhea, constipation, fever, etc.

In fact hives are a healing reaction too. It is caused by the immune

system releasing histamines and other chemicals into the bloodstream

to handle toxins or to affect healing. Histamines causes hives,

rashes, itching, swelling, and other related symptoms. Although hives

may be uncomfortable, they are generally quite harmless and disappear

on their own.

Therefore, do not be alarmed if you get healing reactions from good

foods like eggs, coconut oil, butter, and other good healing foods.

If you get reactions that are alarming or intolerable just cut back

on the amount and gradually increase it.

do you recommend fighting through the symptoms and just keep eating

it? because a lot of docs say stay away from what your reacting

too.. and like myself, if i start reacting to something i feel SO

much better if i stop eating it. i read your allergic vs. healing

reactions.. but how do you know if what you are experiencing is NOT a

healing reaction, but your body actually not liking something?

==>Your body always likes " good unadulterated foods " ; that's why this

program is " Back to Nature. " Mother nature doesn't get it wrong.

And like I have said " God didn't make any stupid bodies. "

If there were such a thing as allergies to good foods many isolated

groups from all over the world that Dr. Price studied, who only had a

limited number of foods to eat from their area, would have been very

sick puppies indeed. However they ate the same limited foods day

after day after day with no ill effects, no healing reactions (no

allergies ???), and they were extremely healthy. Dr. Weston A.

Price's book is " Nutrition and Physical Degeneration " ;

http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html

I recommend you read it.

>

> thanks bee, happy new year everybody.

==>Happy New Year to you too .

Bee

January 1, 2008

Bee,

so if i'm understanding this correctly, is that " food allergies " are due to a

depressed immune system.. what many docs call a " overactive " or " dysfunctional "

immune system.. and our immune systems are depressed because of whats living in

us, ie candida, parasites, etc? and we get this way because of our lifestyle,

chemicals, toxins, etc.

am i understanding this correctly?

now as far as the HCL goes i will try that.. butttt, i never like playing

hypothetical games but i must ask because again, no doctor has told me, at what

point do you say, " i must have enough acid? " the only reason they (doctor's)

believe i don't have enough acid is because the leaky gut won't heal. (and i

know you prescribe to the leaky gut theory).. so what i'm wondering, is that

i've had a stool test through Doctor's data, and they didn't say anything about

my digestion.. they in fact said it was normal, as well as the pH of the stomach

and on and on.. i don't have bloating or anything after meals and my stool is

virtually always well formed, etc. (never constipated) as long as i take

probiotics and eat enough fat.

so i sometimes think this new doc is telling me its acid just because no one

else really knows what else could be causing the food allergies.. I'm just not

real keen on taking HCL and having my stomach burn when no doctor has really

ever SHOWN me or TOLD me what it is they're looking at in deciding i need more

stomach acid.. AH HA! i think after blabbing i finally found what's bugging me

about this! i don't know what the doctor is using to decide i need more acid!?

to me, it seems i have plenty or that its not a problem.. i would nothing more

like something so simple to be the answer to my problems, i just want some

proof, or explanation how they're coming to this conclusion, but i never get

one.. they just say, try it.

ugh.

finally, my last questions to bother you bee. Do you have to have that

" drunk " feeling if you have candida? because i never do.

second, i know you told me this before, but this diet will kill off any other

bugs if you do have them? like liver flukes, or parasites, or those weird bugs

no test can really detect because there's so many? they pretty much just live

off sugar and carbs right?

and this one is HUGE.... a while back, (because of mercury issues) i started

doing saunas. the conventional type that get nice and hot.. anyway, after eating

foods i reacted to, they would make me feel like a million bucks, sweating out

all the toxins or histamine reactions i was getting.. anyway, i did 10 sessions

total, each 30 minutes.. after the first few i noticed a red mark on my skin,

thought it was just dry and put some lotion on it. this happened off and on

during the couple month period i did the 10 saunas... then after i did my 10th,

i didn't do one for about 2 weeks.. at the 2 week mark, i started getting rashes

all over my body.. BUT it only seems to be caused by my clothing.. so i thought

it was detergent and now i'm worried i'm getting chemically sensitive.. i used

CHEER and switched to PLANET.. so i believe that's healthier anyway, but what

caused the rash! it doesn't seem to be going away.. and its flat, red dots

kinda in clumps.. doesn't seem to come

unless i get in contact with something.. from the couch to a chair, to my

sheets, clothes.. ugh.. no doctor has helped me in this area either.. i thought

id ask you because of your backround with toxins, healing, etc. and wondered

what you thought.

also, if i wanted to take a large dose of natural organic anti-fungals to see

if indeed i get a die off reaction to know if candida is my problem which one

should i choose? i know there's several, but wondered if one in particular

could give me a good indicator of what's in my body.

thanks.. sorry for being so long winded.. it's just fresh when i get someone

who actually answers my questions instead of docs you i go to, pay a ton of

money, get into debt, and get no answers.