Re: I am miserable

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> I'm sorry to complain - again. I'm getting a full-blown oral

thrush reaction again. I've been good, really I have, and have not

eaten anything bad. The whole inside of the right side of my mouth

has been sore and irritated all around my gums and the inside of my

cheek. Then the right side of my lips and cheek swelled up, along

with the cracked corner in the lip and sores. Now I'm seeing more

white on my tongue. There's no pain (other than soreness and

irritation) so I know it's not like an infection in my gums or

anything like that. Just more die-off I guess.

==>Yes Gail, symptoms will flare up, even those you've never had

before, but they are all healing symptoms when you are sticking to

the program. Don't be alarmed. This too shall pass, but it takes

time and patience. It's miserable for sure!

Lotsa healing ((((Hugs))))), Bee

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Pamela,

I experience the exact same symptoms. It only happens when I eat to much and to fast. The pain takes two to three hours to go away but I endure it only to teach myself a lesson. By the way, good job on the weight loss. Keep it up

Phx Al

From: Pamela Squires <squirehaven@...>Subject: I am miserable Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 9:22 AM

I guess I need to tell someone about this so I can tell If I am going to the dark side. I had my band placed in October 07, I had a goal of 80 lbs wt loss. To date I have lost 40 lbs, seen significant health improvement etc. The only problem I am having is this;When I eat I have pain in my middle back and chest. It dosent hurt when I eat (I do the slow little bites and I dont eat much (1/2 cup most of the time, no drinking with or after meals) About 30 minutes after I eat I start having pain. It hurts so bad and the only relief is to throw up. I end up making myself throwup to get relief. Most of what I throw up is slime, not much food. At night I have to wait 3 hours after a meal to lie down and nothing to drink 2 hours before bed. I even take an extra omeprazole at night to keep reflux at a minimum (sometimes it works sometimes not). I had a fill in January 08 and did fine for several months, but

now its getting worse. There are no other symptoms, liquids and softs go down fine but real food does this every time. I see two things that are danger signs: 1) making myself throw up and 2)favoring liquid/soft diets. Psquires

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pam,

I have been going thru the same thing.. Get a slight un-fill I have had to

play with my band alot. I am fed up. I cant eat and not loosing so what

good is it doing me? Its not. getting an un-fill as soon as my local Dr

reviews my past dr's paper work. I cant wait its a 15min drive compaired to

3 hrs....

Amy in NY

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From: Al Godwin al_gdwn@...

Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:45:02 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: I am miserable

Pamela,

  I experience the exact same symptoms. It only happens when  I eat to much

and to fast. The pain takes two to three hours to go away but I endure it

only to teach myself a lesson. By the way, good job on the weight loss.

Keep it up

Phx Al

From: Pamela Squires <squirehaven@...>

Subject: I am miserable

Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 9:22 AM

I guess I need to tell someone about this so I can tell If I am going

to the dark side. I had my band placed in October 07, I had a goal of

80 lbs wt loss. To date I have lost 40 lbs, seen significant health

improvement etc. The only problem I am having is this;When I eat I

have pain in my middle back and chest. It dosent hurt when I eat (I

do the slow little bites and I dont eat much (1/2 cup most of the

time, no drinking with or after meals) About 30 minutes after I eat I

start having pain. It hurts so bad and the only relief is to throw up.

I end up making myself throwup to get relief. Most of what I throw up

is slime, not much food. At night I have to wait 3 hours after a meal

to lie down and nothing to drink 2 hours before bed. I even take an

extra omeprazole at night to keep reflux at a minimum (sometimes it

works sometimes not). I had a fill in January 08 and did fine for

several months, but now its getting worse. There are no other

symptoms, liquids and softs go down fine but real food does this every

time.

I see two things that are danger signs: 1) making myself throw up and

2)favoring liquid/soft diets.

Psquires

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Hi Pamela,Nina once told me if you can get "bad food in, you can get good food in. 40lbs is amazing, great job!! That is great to see the health benefits also! I have a couple of thoughts/questions. I'm sure you have read about my whole ice cream issue. It was such an easy food to eat and tasted amazing! I had no idea I was abusing it the way I was!! UGH. I have lost 7lbs since I stopped bringing gallons of it into my home to eat. I still have a treat and eat it when I'm out and running errands but no more in my house. I also have that pain in my middle back and yes mine too is alleviated by throwing up. So here are a couple of mind games I play with myself. First- I tell my self that I can have anything other than CLEAR liquids

for 24 hrs after a PB! And then I stick to it. I'm so miserable the day that I only get clear liquids, it really deters me from forcing a puke. Second, I eat less. For the most part, I only get that pain when I eat too fast, don't chew enough or take one or two more bites that I shouldn't have. So I really had to cut back. It's amazing to me what little amt I can eat and be satisfied. (not mentally, but physically) :)Just because you had a fill that was working in Jan doesn't mean this isn't due to you being too tight. LOTS of things can change in your body and cause you to be too tight now. Any kind of stress or t.o.m can cause swelling and make issues for you. If all this keeps up, you should consider a slight unfill just temporarily. I know how addicting it can be to just PB and make the pain go away and how easy it is to just eat soft foods that don't cause any pain. It is

great that you are reaching out and catching the signs of that horrible cycle before it gets out of control.I hope this helps, keep us posted!!Cyrena DOB: 1/19/07240/135/150 I am miserableI guess I need to tell someone about this so I can tell

If I am going

to the dark side. I had my band placed in October 07, I had a goal of

80 lbs wt loss. To date I have lost 40 lbs, seen significant health

improvement etc. The only problem I am having is this;When I eat I

have pain in my middle back and chest. It dosent hurt when I eat (I

do the slow little bites and I dont eat much (1/2 cup most of the

time, no drinking with or after meals) About 30 minutes after I eat I

start having pain. It hurts so bad and the only relief is to throw up.

I end up making myself throwup to get relief. Most of what I throw up

is slime, not much food. At night I have to wait 3 hours after a meal

to lie down and nothing to drink 2 hours before bed. I even take an

extra omeprazole at night to keep reflux at a minimum (sometimes it

works sometimes not). I had a fill in January 08 and did fine for

several months, but now its getting worse. There are no other

symptoms, liquids and softs go down fine but real food does this every

time.

I see two things that are danger signs: 1) making myself throw up and

2)favoring liquid/soft diets.

Psquires

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>

> I guess I need to tell someone about this so I can tell If I am going

> to the dark side. I had my band placed in October 07, I had a goal of

> 80 lbs wt loss. To date I have lost 40 lbs, seen significant health

> improvement etc. The only problem I am having is this;When I eat I

> have pain in my middle back and chest. It dosent hurt when I eat (I

> do the slow little bites and I dont eat much (1/2 cup most of the

> time, no drinking with or after meals) About 30 minutes after I eat I

> start having pain. It hurts so bad and the only relief is to throw up.

> I end up making myself throwup to get relief. Most of what I throw up

> is slime, not much food. At night I have to wait 3 hours after a meal

> to lie down and nothing to drink 2 hours before bed. I even take an

> extra omeprazole at night to keep reflux at a minimum (sometimes it

> works sometimes not). I had a fill in January 08 and did fine for

> several months, but now its getting worse. There are no other

> symptoms, liquids and softs go down fine but real food does this every

> time.

>

> I see two things that are danger signs: 1) making myself throw up and

> 2)favoring liquid/soft diets.

> Psquires

I have the same thing. It is weird , but I have it for a mo. or so

then all of a sudden it fine. Then if will come back and then away

again. I was told it was acid reflux and to take pricolex. Did that

for like 2 mos. I stopped that and a couple a weeks later I started to

fill better. Been eating fine , even spicy. I don't know I'm just

going with the flow. I don't regret it at all. I know they say stay

away from the dairy and sugar , but when I have the pain I eat a bit of

ice cream or a glass of milk and it goes away. I know not suppose to

but it stops and its been working and I'm not gaining. I make sure

everyday I check my weight to make sure that it hasn't changed do to the

ice cream and all. Good Luck !