Re: Candida - gut infection - HEEEELPPP!

[Guest guest]

,

You need to read bee's file on successfully overcoming

candida. You are eating foods which feed candida,

although you may think they are healthy foods.

I had digestive disturbances also and the diet will

take care of those in time, but you need to eat foods

allowed and give it time.

I was amazed that my digestion settled down once i ate

the proper foods.

The only advice i can give to you is to stick to the

diet and know that cheating only hurts you.

Best of luck to you.

Sue

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi . Welcome to our wonderful group. You've come to the right

place but like Sue wrote please please read my main article which was

sent to you when you joined, or find it in our Group's Files (left

menu) - it is in the first folder. Once you read that article you

will understand why you are not making progress on your current diet,

along with taking nystatin. When you've been able to read the

article, next read the other article in that same folder, Candida,

How to Get Started, then get back to us with questions. We're here

to help and support you, but you do need to change your diet - you'll

see why after reading. You can beat this fungus, but it's tough and

it takes time and patience to heal your body naturally. But there

are no quick fixes my friend. Read and enjoy!

The very best in health, Bee

>

> I am 52 years old, male, and reasonably active and in good health

> other than suffering the effects of a candida bowel infection which

> I have now endured for over 12 months. I live in Sydney Asutralia,

> and have a very understanding and supportive partner.

> I have been taking Nystatin since January 06 and being careful to

> control my intake of sugar, yeast and carbohydrates to ensure that

I

> do not give the candida an opportunity to further populate.

However,

> I am just not able to make any progress. My symptoms at present

> include tummy grumbling (particularly at night) and bloating,

> discomfort in the abdomen, and general nausea as a result of

> interrupted sleep patterns. I also take Endep to control anxiety

and

> help me sleep, however recently this has proved ineffective at the

> recommended dose. I am constantly in contact with my Doctor who

> tells me to keep taking the Nystatin and follow the diet we have

> discussed, and to keep taking the Endep, and eventually the porblem

> will go away.

>

[Guest guest]

>

,

Are you new to this group? I just read your message and I really

sympathize with you. I am sorry you are going through such a hard

time, and I personally know that the idea of starting a new job on top

of being sick just makes you even worse. Stress causes the candida to

get worse. Anyway, in addition to following the diet here on this

support group, including not eating fruit which is soooo hard, it

seems like maybe you are having some parasite issues as well. Someone

told me that when you wake up in the middle of the night every night,

especially if it's around 3 or 4 in the morning that that is when the

parasites are the most active and they're likely to make you feel bad

at that time so you wake up. I have had that problem myself. I've

noticed that drinking certain herbal teas helps with sleeping and also

eating pumpkin seeds kills the parasites. (Not for sure if they are

allowed on the diet or not...). Anyway, I hope you get some relief and

I'll keep you in prayer.

ita

OH while I'm writing this reply, I just wanted to know if anyone here

has had any experience with using a parasite zapper? I will check the

files and past posts for any info...

-ita

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your supportive thoughts Jaunita - yes I am new to this

forum, and already have been impressed by the response. I will check

closely Bee's articles and see how I can try and modify diet to help

combat the condition. Your comment re parasites is interesting as it

was something I had considered previously, and discussed with my Dr,

however testing for giardia, cryptosporidium etc etc found nothing.

Maybe it is a bug that has eluded the testing which I had done

several months ago. I have been drinking hebal teas (given up

coffee - which hurts!?) and trying to promtoe better sleep habits. I

will try eating pumpkin seed to see if that can provide releif.

thanks again and regards

Pete

>

>

> >

> ,

>

> Are you new to this group? I just read your message and I really

> sympathize with you. I am sorry you are going through such a hard

> time, and I personally know that the idea of starting a new job on

top

> of being sick just makes you even worse. Stress causes the candida

to

> get worse. Anyway, in addition to following the diet here on this

> support group, including not eating fruit which is soooo hard, it

> seems like maybe you are having some parasite issues as well.

Someone

> told me that when you wake up in the middle of the night every

night,

> especially if it's around 3 or 4 in the morning that that is when

the

> parasites are the most active and they're likely to make you feel

bad

> at that time so you wake up. I have had that problem myself. I've

> noticed that drinking certain herbal teas helps with sleeping and

also

> eating pumpkin seeds kills the parasites. (Not for sure if they are

> allowed on the diet or not...). Anyway, I hope you get some relief

and

> I'll keep you in prayer.

>

> ita

>

> OH while I'm writing this reply, I just wanted to know if anyone

here

> has had any experience with using a parasite zapper? I will check

the

> files and past posts for any info...

> -ita

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bee - your response, and that of others, is much apprecaited -

I will print the article and get started on diet changes. ita

has suggested pumpkin seeds for eliminating parasites - can you

comment? I have been tested for the well-known bugs such as giardia

and crypto. Are there others and do they produce symptoms similar to

mine - night sweats and waking dreams/gut pain and gurgling.

regards

pete

> >

> > I am 52 years old, male, and reasonably active and in good

health

> > other than suffering the effects of a candida bowel infection

which

> > I have now endured for over 12 months. I live in Sydney

Asutralia,

> > and have a very understanding and supportive partner.

> > I have been taking Nystatin since January 06 and being careful

to

> > control my intake of sugar, yeast and carbohydrates to ensure

that

> I

> > do not give the candida an opportunity to further populate.

> However,

> > I am just not able to make any progress. My symptoms at present

> > include tummy grumbling (particularly at night) and bloating,

> > discomfort in the abdomen, and general nausea as a result of

> > interrupted sleep patterns. I also take Endep to control anxiety

> and

> > help me sleep, however recently this has proved ineffective at

the

> > recommended dose. I am constantly in contact with my Doctor who

> > tells me to keep taking the Nystatin and follow the diet we have

> > discussed, and to keep taking the Endep, and eventually the

porblem

> > will go away.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

thank you Sue - I will take you advice re the article(s) referred to

best wishes

>

>

> ,

>

> You need to read bee's file on successfully overcoming

> candida. You are eating foods which feed candida,

> although you may think they are healthy foods.

>

> I had digestive disturbances also and the diet will

> take care of those in time, but you need to eat foods

> allowed and give it time.

>

> I was amazed that my digestion settled down once i ate

> the proper foods.

>

> The only advice i can give to you is to stick to the

> diet and know that cheating only hurts you.

>

> Best of luck to you.

>

> Sue

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks Bee - your response, and that of others, is much

apprecaited - I will print the article and get started on diet

changes. ita has suggested pumpkin seeds for eliminating

parasites - can you comment? I have been tested for the well-known

bugs such as giardia and crypto. Are there others and do they produce

symptoms similar to mine - night sweats and waking dreams/gut pain

and gurgling. regards pete

Hi Pete. I responded to your previous message that pumpkin seeds are

a no-no on the candida diet. If you were tested and cleared for

parasites you do not have to be concerned about them. Night sweats

are caused by your body working hard to detoxify, so doing the things

I recommend in addition to diet and supplements will help, i.e. dry

skin brushing, coffee enemas, Epsom salt baths, lemon juice & ocean

sea salt in water 6 times a day (recipe in my article or in our

Recipe Folder under Drinks & Teas), etc. The gut pain and gurgling

is caused by candida which puts out carbon dioxide (gas) causing pain

and bloating. Having digestive problems is typical of most candida

sufferers. This diet plus supplements will help you; do check out

your stomach acid levels and take digestive enzymes as noted in the

Digestion Folder. Good saturated fats are very important for the

intestines because they strengthen and heal them. These are included

in the diet, i.e. butter, coconut oil, lard, etc. and other naturally

occurring fats in meats.

Cheers, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee, have been following the diet now for a week, with some

improvement in symptoms. Night sweats have abated and the tummy

rumbles seem to have subsided. Sometimes I awake with dry

mouth/throat and face flushes. I have reduced the Nystatin dose to

one capsule three times a day with a Pao d'arco tablet 500mg, and

take a multivitamin plus fish oil and calcium/magnesium in the

morning.

What can you recommend to overcome feelings of tiredness and

lethargy which now seem to be occuring as a result of the low

sugar/low carbs. Maybe there are drinks which I can make which are

easy to prepare and can be added into the diet.

I need to attend job interviews and be alert, so energy levels are

important. At 2pm each day I quite often sit down and find myself

napping for 30-60 mins!

I note that almonds contain very few carbs and sugar - are they OK

to include in the early stages of the diet. Are there any dairy

items which can be included, as this is one food group which I find

difficult to exclude?

PS thanks for the support.

Pete

> >

> > Thanks Bee - your response, and that of others, is much

> apprecaited - I will print the article and get started on diet

> changes. ita has suggested pumpkin seeds for eliminating

> parasites - can you comment? I have been tested for the well-known

> bugs such as giardia and crypto. Are there others and do they

produce

> symptoms similar to mine - night sweats and waking dreams/gut pain

> and gurgling. regards pete

>

> Hi Pete. I responded to your previous message that pumpkin seeds

are

> a no-no on the candida diet. If you were tested and cleared for

> parasites you do not have to be concerned about them. Night

sweats

> are caused by your body working hard to detoxify, so doing the

things

> I recommend in addition to diet and supplements will help, i.e.

dry

> skin brushing, coffee enemas, Epsom salt baths, lemon juice &

ocean

> sea salt in water 6 times a day (recipe in my article or in our

> Recipe Folder under Drinks & Teas), etc. The gut pain and

gurgling

> is caused by candida which puts out carbon dioxide (gas) causing

pain

> and bloating. Having digestive problems is typical of most

candida

> sufferers. This diet plus supplements will help you; do check out

> your stomach acid levels and take digestive enzymes as noted in

the

> Digestion Folder. Good saturated fats are very important for the

> intestines because they strengthen and heal them. These are

included

> in the diet, i.e. butter, coconut oil, lard, etc. and other

naturally

> occurring fats in meats.

>

> Cheers, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

hi there, I'm not Bee, but is it possible you are still going through

a withdrawal? die off type symptoms? I can't imagine a week is

nearly long enough to experience improvements or have the withdrawal

or die off effect disappear. I took three weeks to improve the first

time I tried the diet. I had die off all that time. Part of my

symptoms during that time were overhwelming feelings of wanting to

sleep! I was tired and felt odd and drugged. It took weeks to

subside.

I wonder if you are overdoing it, you started the diet one week

ago, and you're taking antifungals as well. Do you think it might be

easier if you allow your body to adjust to the diet alone? before

using antifungals at this stage? The diet on it's own takes some

adjustment, as it's a profound change and yeast die on this alone.

Add antifungals on top of it, when yu've not been on the diet for

long and I'd imagine it would probably overwhelm you. Bee would be

best to advise on this, but just my opinion.

Do you take vitamin C? That might help a little, plus other

antioxidants.

>

>

Hi Bee, have been following the diet now for a week, with some

> improvement in symptoms. Night sweats have abated and the tummy

> rumbles seem to have subsided. Sometimes I awake with dry

> mouth/throat and face flushes. I have reduced the Nystatin dose to

> one capsule three times a day with a Pao d'arco tablet 500mg, and

> take a multivitamin plus fish oil and calcium/magnesium in the

> morning.

> What can you recommend to overcome feelings of tiredness and

> lethargy which now seem to be occuring as a result of the low

> sugar/low carbs.

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee, have been following the diet now for a week, with some

> improvement in symptoms. Night sweats have abated and the tummy

> rumbles seem to have subsided.

==>That's great you are noticing improvements at this early stage.

> Sometimes I awake with dry mouth/throat and face flushes.

==>Dry mouth/throat indicates you are breathing through your mouth

rather than your nose - see Breathe Right folder about how important

it is to practice breathing through your nose. Or it can indicate

you are not consuming enough minerals and/or good fats. Both are

required for your body's cells to utilize water. That is why it is

important to consume the high amount of fats on this diet, according

to the ratios recommended, and also to have enough ocean sea salt

(either in the electrolyte drink I recommend in my article or by

adding enough to foods).

> I have reduced the Nystatin dose to one capsule three times a day

with a Pao d'arco tablet 500mg, and take a multivitamin plus fish oil

and calcium/magnesium in the morning.

==>If you only started on the diet a week ago it is too soon to be

taking antifungals like Nystatin unless you had been taking it

previously and were doing okay. The diet and supplements are

required first in order to build up the body, kill of most of the

candida, and make your body strong enough to withstand the die-off

caused by antifungals - see my article about " when " you start on

antifungals in the beginning of that section; and also " when " you

start on probiotics.

==>Also I do not recommend taking Pau D'Arco in a tablet; it should

be taken as a tea. I do not recommend taking a multivitamin either

because the quality will suffer because it is impossible to cram that

much into one tablet - take separate vitamins as recommended in my

article, i.e. vitamin C, vitamin E, Vitamin B Complex (with niacin in

it, and if it doesn't contain niacin also take it in a separate

tablet), etc. If you take fish oil you also must take vitamin A, and

you should be getting enough vitamin D from the skin, otherwise you

need to take cod liver oil which contains omega 3, vitamins A & D.

> What can you recommend to overcome feelings of tiredness and

> lethargy which now seem to be occuring as a result of the low

> sugar/low carbs. Maybe there are drinks which I can make which are

> easy to prepare and can be added into the diet.

==>All tiredness and lethargy aren't due to low sugar particularly if

you are eating the recommended amount of protein and good fats on

this diet because 58% of protein and 10% of fats turn into glucose in

the body fulfilling all of your body's needs for blood sugar levels.

You probably aren't getting enough good fats. Do not eat too much

protein in ratio to fats either because it will cause problems.

==>You should be having the electrolyte drink recommended in my

article (lemon juice & ocean sea salt), and you can also have Bee's

Egg Drink; see the Recipe Folder under Drinks & Teas, which is

excellent for getting enough fats and also raw eggs nature's most

perfect food.

==>More than likely your energy levels are low because of energy

needed by the body to heal, because you are not taking all of the

supplements as recommended, and because you need more good fats.

When your energy flags take a teaspoon of coconut oil.

> I need to attend job interviews and be alert, so energy levels are

> important. At 2pm each day I quite often sit down and find myself

> napping for 30-60 mins! I note that almonds contain very few carbs

and sugar - are they OK to include in the early stages of the diet.

Are there any dairy items which can be included, as this is one food

group which I find difficult to exclude? PS thanks for the support.

> Pete

==>Almonds are not okay on the candida diet; not only are they

irritating to the bowels and very hard to digest, but also they must

be soaked in salt water for 7 hours in order to make them fit for

human consumption and to remove the phytates and enzymes that block

protein and mineral absorption, etc. Have some good fats instead.

==>Butter is the only dairy that is okay because it is extremely low

in lactose and galactose (sugars which feed candida).

The best in health, Bee

P.S. Would you please trim your messages? See our Candida Group

Info folder for why and how. Thanks a bunch.

[Guest guest]

Hi there fats - have been taking nystatin now for 8 months, on Drs

advice. This has only served to exacerbate the die-off symptoms

without the diet. I have reduced the nystatin dose to half my

previous levels, with the intention of using the diet to further

surpress the formation fo the yeast. Clearly, there has been

improvement in the die-off symptoms since taking this step. Once the

diet has been established for a few weeks, I intend to go back to my

normal nystatin dose of two 500,000iu capsules three time a day.

This should help to eliminate the yeast colonies. I can start on

probiotics if the yeast die off symptoms have been eliminated.

Thanks for your interest. I will add Vit C supplement.

Pete

>

> hi there, I'm not Bee, but is it possible you are still going

through

> a withdrawal? die off type symptoms? I can't imagine a week is

> nearly long enough to experience improvements or have the

withdrawal

> or die off effect disappear. I took three weeks to improve the

first

> time I tried the diet. I had die off all that time. Part of my

> symptoms during that time were overhwelming feelings of wanting to

> sleep! I was tired and felt odd and drugged. It took weeks to

> subside.

>

> I wonder if you are overdoing it, you started the diet one week

> ago, and you're taking antifungals as well. Do you think it might

be

> easier if you allow your body to adjust to the diet alone? before

> using antifungals at this stage? The diet on it's own takes some

> adjustment, as it's a profound change and yeast die on this

alone.

> Add antifungals on top of it, when yu've not been on the diet for

> long and I'd imagine it would probably overwhelm you. Bee would

be

> best to advise on this, but just my opinion.

>

> Do you take vitamin C? That might help a little, plus other

> antioxidants.

> >

> >

>

>

> Hi Bee, have been following the diet now for a week, with some

> > improvement in symptoms. Night sweats have abated and the tummy

> > rumbles seem to have subsided. Sometimes I awake with dry

> > mouth/throat and face flushes. I have reduced the Nystatin dose

to

> > one capsule three times a day with a Pao d'arco tablet 500mg,

and

> > take a multivitamin plus fish oil and calcium/magnesium in the

> > morning.

> > What can you recommend to overcome feelings of tiredness and

> > lethargy which now seem to be occuring as a result of the low

> > sugar/low carbs.

>

[Guest guest]

have had difficulty in getting Pau D'Arco as a tea here in Aust.

Thought the tablets may be better than nothing. Will try Vit C

powder as a supplement.

Pete

> >

> > Hi Bee, have been following the diet now for a week, with some

> > improvement in symptoms. Night sweats have abated and the tummy

> > rumbles seem to have subsided.

>

> ==>That's great you are noticing improvements at this early stage.

>

> > Sometimes I awake with dry mouth/throat and face flushes.

>

> ==>Dry mouth/throat indicates you are breathing through your mouth

> rather than your nose - see Breathe Right folder about how

important

> it is to practice breathing through your nose. Or it can indicate

> you are not consuming enough minerals and/or good fats. Both are

> required for your body's cells to utilize water. That is why it

is

> important to consume the high amount of fats on this diet,

according

> to the ratios recommended, and also to have enough ocean sea salt

> (either in the electrolyte drink I recommend in my article or by

> adding enough to foods).

>

> > I have reduced the Nystatin dose to one capsule three times a

day

> with a Pao d'arco tablet 500mg, and take a multivitamin plus fish

oil

> and calcium/magnesium in the morning.

>

> ==>If you only started on the diet a week ago it is too soon to be

> taking antifungals like Nystatin unless you had been taking it

> previously and were doing okay. The diet and supplements are

> required first in order to build up the body, kill of most of the

> candida, and make your body strong enough to withstand the die-off

> caused by antifungals - see my article about " when " you start on

> antifungals in the beginning of that section; and also " when " you

> start on probiotics.

>

> ==>Also I do not recommend taking Pau D'Arco in a tablet; it

should

> be taken as a tea. I do not recommend taking a multivitamin

either

> because the quality will suffer because it is impossible to cram

that

> much into one tablet - take separate vitamins as recommended in my

> article, i.e. vitamin C, vitamin E, Vitamin B Complex (with niacin

in

> it, and if it doesn't contain niacin also take it in a separate

> tablet), etc. If you take fish oil you also must take vitamin A,

and

> you should be getting enough vitamin D from the skin, otherwise

you

> need to take cod liver oil which contains omega 3, vitamins A & D.

>

> > What can you recommend to overcome feelings of tiredness and

> > lethargy which now seem to be occuring as a result of the low

> > sugar/low carbs. Maybe there are drinks which I can make which

are

> > easy to prepare and can be added into the diet.

>

> ==>All tiredness and lethargy aren't due to low sugar particularly

if

> you are eating the recommended amount of protein and good fats on

> this diet because 58% of protein and 10% of fats turn into glucose

in

> the body fulfilling all of your body's needs for blood sugar

levels.

> You probably aren't getting enough good fats. Do not eat too much

> protein in ratio to fats either because it will cause problems.

>

> ==>You should be having the electrolyte drink recommended in my

> article (lemon juice & ocean sea salt), and you can also have

Bee's

> Egg Drink; see the Recipe Folder under Drinks & Teas, which is

> excellent for getting enough fats and also raw eggs nature's most

> perfect food.

>

> ==>More than likely your energy levels are low because of energy

> needed by the body to heal, because you are not taking all of the

> supplements as recommended, and because you need more good fats.

> When your energy flags take a teaspoon of coconut oil.

>

> > I need to attend job interviews and be alert, so energy levels

are

> > important. At 2pm each day I quite often sit down and find

myself

> > napping for 30-60 mins! I note that almonds contain very few

carbs

> and sugar - are they OK to include in the early stages of the

diet.

> Are there any dairy items which can be included, as this is one

food

> group which I find difficult to exclude? PS thanks for the support.

> > Pete

>

> ==>Almonds are not okay on the candida diet; not only are they

> irritating to the bowels and very hard to digest, but also they

must

> be soaked in salt water for 7 hours in order to make them fit for

> human consumption and to remove the phytates and enzymes that

block

> protein and mineral absorption, etc. Have some good fats instead.

>

> ==>Butter is the only dairy that is okay because it is extremely

low

> in lactose and galactose (sugars which feed candida).

>

> The best in health, Bee

>

> P.S. Would you please trim your messages? See our Candida Group

> Info folder for why and how. Thanks a bunch.

>

[Guest guest]

Do re-check all of your supplements against what is recommended

because the diet and the supplements all work together to provide all

the body requires in order to heal. There is a handy list in the

Candida Supplements Folder (in the files). I think you may be

missing more than just Vitamin C.

Cheers, Bee

P.S. Would you please trim your messages my friend? See the Candida

Group Info folder. Thanks a bunch.

>

> Hi there fats - have been taking nystatin now for 8 months, on Drs

> advice. This has only served to exacerbate the die-off symptoms

> without the diet. I have reduced the nystatin dose to half my

> previous levels, with the intention of using the diet to further

> surpress the formation fo the yeast. Clearly, there has been

> improvement in the die-off symptoms since taking this step. Once

the

> diet has been established for a few weeks, I intend to go back to

my

> normal nystatin dose of two 500,000iu capsules three time a day.

> This should help to eliminate the yeast colonies. I can start on

> probiotics if the yeast die off symptoms have been eliminated.

> Thanks for your interest. I will add Vit C supplement.

> Pete