Re: c-c-cravings!!!

[Guest guest]

Hey, I know that feeling well. I could give you some pathetic

descriptions of myself in craving mode.

My experience with it, is when the cravings start, then you know

you're on the right track and the battle is on.

This is the crucial time of having to get through this stage and not

let the cookies and things become better and bigger in your mind to

what they really are. It's the yeast talking! THey are just food,

just sugar and only serve to give your taste buds a thrill for a

while, make you feel exaggerated pleasure at the time, whilst

hindering the process of healing and having you feel guily at the end

of it and then possibly having to start from scratch.

When you look at that stuff or see people eat it, it will be blown

out of proportion in your mind because the yeast is getting rather

desperate and you'll feel the same way. Try and look on it as the

yeast lying to you and saying " JUST ONE, JUST ONE, IT WON'T HURT, I

PROMISE I'LL BE GOOD IF YOU JUST GIVE IN THIS TIME AROUND "

The craving time to me is the very time you gotta hang in there. And

let it hurt, don't be afraid of the discomfort. It's not a bad

thing, it just isn't pleasant to feel it. Bee would have better

advice on how to help this go easier for you.

I usually just cope on salad vegetables, meats, eggs and fats and

sometimes it does not matter what I do, the cravings happen anyway

and really either I put up with some discomfort, or I continue to

give in to it.

I have to realise that I am very lucky to have access to the good

healthy food I have, I imagine those poor people who have nothing to

eat at all, or barely anything and I think what must they go

through? So really, this is serious stuff, we have to go through

this, as an addict of something else has got to do it too.

I hope you hold out and don't give in. It's just food. Go with the

discomfort and keep telling yourself it means the yeast is having a

hard time and that again, it is just something to stimulate your

taste buds for a limited period of time.

> OK, I'm going through some *serious* cravings! Well, really, I

have the

> munchies so bad! Those cookies are calling to me! (none in the

house.)

> With this new program, I eat only 3 meals per day (no snacks).

I've read

> the article about withdrawal and cravings. I'm slurping down my

electrolyte

> & vit. C - actually a bit too much Vit C.

>

> I find myself daydreaming of cookies all day long. This is

intense! It

> didn't help to see a display at the store today - lol!

>

> So, is there anything else I can do? Are there any good permissible

> munchies? So far, the best thing I can think of is the pint of

cherry

> tomatoes on my counter - to eat along with dinner. Do I need to

join a

> 12-step program for this addiction? :-D

>

> Thanks!!

> Marla

>

> PS - I have learned that it does *not* help to have delicious stock

cooking

> on the stove all day - that makes cravings much worse! LOL!!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Marla,

While most days I am fine with just two or three meals a day, sometimes I

get those unwavering cravings too. My solutions-- I choose one of the

following:

.. A cup of hot tea with a teaspoon or two of coconut oil

.. Fried pork rinds with homemade salsa

.. Hard boiled egg(s)

.. A salad

.. Bee's raw egg drink

.. A cup of organic decaf coffee blended with an egg, butter, coconut oil,

stevia and fresh chocolate mint or an extract (comes out like a specialty

coffee drink like you'd get at Starbuck's)

I base my choice on how hungry I am and whether I am craving something sweet

or salty/spicy.

Hope that helps.

Hugs,

Ellen

----- Original Message -----

From: " Marla " <busykitchen@...>

> OK, I'm going through some *serious* cravings! Well, really, I have the

> munchies so bad! Those cookies are calling to me! (none in the house.)

[Guest guest]

Thanks y'all for your help with these cravings! I have not given in, but I

don't remember the last time I had so many visions of foods dancing in my

head! It does help to visualize it as " the enemy " instead of yummy.

Cheers!

Marla

[Guest guest]

>

> OK, I'm going through some *serious* cravings! Well, really, I

have the munchies so bad! Those cookies are calling to me! (none in

the house.) With this new program, I eat only 3 meals per day (no

snacks). I've read the article about withdrawal and cravings. I'm

slurping down my electrolyte & vit. C - actually a bit too much Vit C.

Hi Marla. I hear you about your serious cravings. It would

difficult to take too much vitamin c when you consider 4,000 mg is

the normal daily dose, and that some people take up to 14,000 mgs per

day, and even more for therapeutic reasons. But do not lower high

doses of vitamin c too suddenly; lower them gradually. Are you

taking fats when you have craving, or eating protein. Even though

snacking is not good while you are trying to curb your cravings it's

okay. It is worse to give in to your cravings than to eat between

meals.

>

> I find myself daydreaming of cookies all day long. This is

intense! It didn't help to see a display at the store today - lol!

>

> So, is there anything else I can do? Are there any good permissible

> munchies? So far, the best thing I can think of is the pint of

cherry tomatoes on my counter - to eat along with dinner. Do I need

to join a 12-step program for this addiction? :-D

Try coconut oil by the teaspoon and some protein. You know addiction

to foods can be just as serious and intense as addiction to smoking

and alcohol. Debby, our moderator, has excellent advice to help you

out. She'll be along later on so hang in there. You are doing great

so far so don't lose out to cravings now. Do some deep breathing

exercises (see Breathe Right Folder), and a nice long Epsom salt bath

(it provide magnesium to help you relax).

Love & Hugs, Bee

[Guest guest]

On 9/23/06, Bee Wilder <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

>

>

> >Hi Marla. I hear you about your serious cravings. It would

> difficult to take too much vitamin c when you consider 4,000 mg is

> the normal daily dose, and that some people take up to 14,000 mgs per

> day, and even more for therapeutic reasons. But do not lower high

> doses of vitamin c too suddenly; lower them gradually.

Thanks Bee. What I meant when I said " too much " was that I'm still ramping

up on my doses and my stools are a bit loose because of it.

Are you

> taking fats when you have craving, or eating protein. Even though

> snacking is not good while you are trying to curb your cravings it's

> okay. It is worse to give in to your cravings than to eat between

> meals.

Thanks for that advice as well. Now that I have " permission " to eat between

meals when I have cravings, I think I'll relax a bit about it. I could

easily eat a hamburger patty or boiled egg or something - with some coconut

oil. I'm certain that would help!

Thanks again!

Marla

[Guest guest]

Cinnamon and stevia in tea is also a nice treat.

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that drink sounds nice, the addition of eggs makes everything taste great.

when i first started on this diet it was hard because i didnt know hao to cook

with the ingrdients allowed on this diet.

the first time i learned how to make bone broths was when i became to really

feel satisfied on this diet and enjoy it more than any of the food i used to

eat. i make the following and take it out with me in a flask, even to

resturants,

i make lamb bone broth, with the meat as well, i take out the meat and let

stock reduce, to thicken up a bit, then i put it in the blender with 2 raw eggs,

a few peices of the lamb (with fat) 1 tsp tomatoe paste, coconut oil, butter,

spices and salt to taste, pouring in any juice from fermentations makes it even

nicer.

i'm not sure what recipes we have in the files for recipes i would recommend

sally fallons book as a must, many of the recipes are easily adapted to suit

candida sufferers

joe

Tiger Lily <sweettiger@...> wrote:

Marla,

While most days I am fine with just two or three meals a day, sometimes I

get those unwavering cravings too. My solutions-- I choose one of the

following:

.. A cup of hot tea with a teaspoon or two of coconut oil

.. Fried pork rinds with homemade salsa

.. Hard boiled egg(s)

.. A salad

.. Bee's raw egg drink

.. A cup of organic decaf coffee blended with an egg, butter, coconut oil,

stevia and fresh chocolate mint or an extract (comes out like a specialty

coffee drink like you'd get at Starbuck's)

I base my choice on how hungry I am and whether I am craving something sweet

or salty/spicy.

Hope that helps.

Hugs,

Ellen

----- Original Message -----

From: " Marla " <busykitchen@...>

> OK, I'm going through some *serious* cravings! Well, really, I have the

> munchies so bad! Those cookies are calling to me! (none in the house.)

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Thanks Joe!

I've actually been cooking NT style (minus allergens) for nearly 3 years.

You are right, it does take some time to know what to do in the kitchen!

Your lamb broth " soup " sounds very interesting. I'll have to try it

sometime.

Wow, I am blown away by the raw egg drink!!! I have always been squeemish

about the raw eggs, even though I know perfectly well that a good quality

organic egg is safe. It's more the slime factor that gets me.

Well tonight, I went to a potluck. Just as we were leaving, a huge platter

of cookies was set out. Oh, it was terrible! My cravings were telling me

to just quit this diet, and I've only barely begun! So I came home and

whipped up my first raw egg drink.

I substituted boiling water for some spiced rooibos tea, but WOWZA!! It is

super yummy - I am so thrilled to have something so tasty and nutritious!!

I think I'll be having this for dessert every night! And I didn't even put

in any stevia (trying to keep my taste buds in check with the cravings.)

Cheers!

Marla

On 9/23/06, joanne finigan <joanne_finigan@...> wrote:

>

> that drink sounds nice, the addition of eggs makes everything taste great.

>

> when i first started on this diet it was hard because i didnt know hao to

> cook with the ingrdients allowed on this diet.

>

> the first time i learned how to make bone broths was when i became to

> really feel satisfied on this diet and enjoy it more than any of the food i

> used to eat. i make the following and take it out with me in a flask, even

> to resturants,

>

> i make lamb bone broth, with the meat as well, i take out the meat and let

> stock reduce, to thicken up a bit, then i put it in the blender with 2 raw

> eggs, a few peices of the lamb (with fat) 1 tsp tomatoe paste, coconut oil,

> butter, spices and salt to taste, pouring in any juice from fermentations

> makes it even nicer.

>

> i'm not sure what recipes we have in the files for recipes i would

> recommend sally fallons book as a must, many of the recipes are easily

> adapted to suit candida sufferers

>

> joe

> Tiger Lily <sweettiger@...> wrote:

> Marla,

>

>

[Guest guest]

OK, well the first thing I'd say is don't worry about

calories or meals right at first. Just eat lots of

food.

Especially you want to focus on lots of fat first and

foremost, so drown everything you eat in butter. I

used to actually like to order a steak and dip it in

butter as I ate it. Yum! Protein would be a good

second choice.

You might want to eat several times a day. As your

body gradually adjusts to eating this way and switches

to fat for fuel you can gradually cut back on your

calories and ratios until you get to where you should

be according to your calculations.

I would not recommend eating anything with stevia in

it to help with cravings.. that tends to just keep

cravings going for me. Some find that even just the

taste of something sweet provokes an insulin response

which could spell trouble.

Also for what ever reason just regular tea causes

issues for me (some say they contain small amounts of

mold since it is dried - not sure if this is the

case), except the Pau D'arco.

You will probably find that you even have the cravings

despite being very full but that won't last long, and

being full helps.

You might want to clean out your environment as much

as possible for this first phase. It's hard when

there is temptation around, and you want to have

strategies to deal with it.

You want to set yourself up for support as much as

possible. I'd also suggest making a good deal of food

in advance so you don't get in a situation where you

are eating something inappropriate because you are

starving.

Also it's very important you are following every

aspect of the diet entirely and not just having a

little bit of something that might have sugar in it..

for instance a spice or condiment or even a medication

that has a sugar coating.

You might want to stick to just sea salt and maybe

garlic for a bit to see if you react to any of your

spices.

It really is funny how the smallest things can set you

off with cravings and candida issues when you have

this problem.

HTH...

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- Marla <busykitchen@...> wrote:

> OK, I'm going through some *serious* cravings!

> Well, really, I have the

> munchies so bad! Those cookies are calling to me!

> (none in the house.)

> With this new program, I eat only 3 meals per day

> (no snacks). I've read

> the article about withdrawal and cravings. I'm

> slurping down my electrolyte

> & vit. C - actually a bit too much Vit C.

It is a lot easier to act ourselves into new thinking than to think ourselves

into a new action.

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

>

> that drink sounds nice, the addition of eggs makes everything taste

great. when i first started on this diet it was hard because i

didnt know how to cook with the ingrdients allowed on this diet.>

the first time i learned how to make bone broths was when i became to

really feel satisfied on this diet and enjoy it more than any of the

food i used to eat. i make the following and take it out with me in

a flask, even to resturants,

>

> i make lamb bone broth, with the meat as well, i take out the meat

and let stock reduce, to thicken up a bit, then i put it in the

blender with 2 raw eggs, a few peices of the lamb (with fat) 1 tsp

tomatoe paste, coconut oil, butter, spices and salt to taste, pouring

in any juice from fermentations makes it even nicer.

Hi Joe, that sounds healthy and delicious. Good for you for being so

creative!

>

> i'm not sure what recipes we have in the files for recipes i

would recommend sally fallons book as a must, many of the recipes are

easily adapted to suit candida sufferers.

I agree with you that the Nourishing Traditions cookbook by Sally

Fallon is a must. I cannot live without it.

Cheers, Bee

P.S. Joe, would you please trim your messages - see Candida Group

Info Folder for how and why. Thanks a bunch.

[Guest guest]

>> Wow, I am blown away by the raw egg drink!!! I have always been

squeemish about the raw eggs, even though I know perfectly well that

a good quality organic egg is safe. It's more the slime factor that

gets me. Well tonight, I went to a potluck. Just as we were leaving,

a huge platter of cookies was set out. Oh, it was terrible! My

cravings were telling me to just quit this diet, and I've only barely

begun! So I came home and whipped up my first raw egg drink.

>

> I substituted boiling water for some spiced rooibos tea, but

WOWZA!! It is super yummy - I am so thrilled to have something so

tasty and nutritious!! I think I'll be having this for dessert every

night! And I didn't even put in any stevia (trying to keep my taste

buds in check with the cravings.)

Marla, I'm so happy you like the raw egg drink. It is awesome and so

nutritious. I have it every morning.

Cheers, Bee

P.S. Marla, may I ask that you please trim your messages - see

Candida Group Info Folder for instructions, etc. Thanks so much.

[Guest guest]

Cheers, Bee

> P.S. Marla, may I ask that you please trim your messages - see

> Candida Group Info Folder for instructions, etc. Thanks so much.

>

> Hi Bee,

Will you please let me know if this message arrives trimmed? I thought I

had figured out the gmail problem and *thought* I had been trimming.

Thanks,

Marla

[Guest guest]

Marla, this one looks like it is trimmed okay. Thanks so much. Bee

> Hi Bee, Will you please let me know if this message arrives trimmed?

I thought I had figured out the gmail problem and *thought* I had been

trimming.

>