vitamin break?

[Guest guest]

I basically agree.

I stop and start and change except, I always take Vit C and Mag.

Kathy

On 9/6/06, Tamara <tamaratornado@...> wrote:

>

> I saw a holistic doctor my brother recommended a while ago. One of the

> things he told me is that it is good to take a break from taking

> vitamin supplements from time to time. That if you take the

> supplements all the time, after a while they don't work. Your body

> gets too used to them. So you stop taking them for a few weeks and

> then take them again. and they work better that way.

>

> What do you all think?

>

> - T

>

>

>

--

Cheers,

Kathy

[Guest guest]

>

> I saw a holistic doctor my brother recommended a while ago. One of the

> things he told me is that it is good to take a break from taking

> vitamin supplements from time to time. That if you take the

> supplements all the time, after a while they don't work. Your body

> gets too used to them. So you stop taking them for a few weeks and

> then take them again. and they work better that way.

>

> What do you all think?

>

> - T

>

I basically disagree.

Your body needs certain nutrients, vitamins & minerals to function

optimally.

We are all unique and our needs in this area will vary, e.g if you a

suffering from a particular medical condition which causes a certain

nutrient to be used up, you will need to suuply more of this nutrient.

The only reason to take supplements is if you cannot supply the body

with the correct amount of any nutrient through your normal diet. (I

actually consider the taking of supplements as part of my normal diet.)

Therefore, if you know, through some form of self-awareness, that you

are not getting the right amount of nutrients without taking

supplements then it doesn't make any sense to me to stop taking them.

Supplements are just a form of food with a silly name.

[Guest guest]

Tamara wrote:

> I saw a holistic doctor my brother recommended a while ago. One of the

> things he told me is that it is good to take a break from taking

> vitamin supplements from time to time. That if you take the

> supplements all the time, after a while they don't work. Your body

> gets too used to them.

It's horrid when supposedly trained people talk nonsense that has zero

cell physiology behind it - I'm willing to bet this doctor never saw the

inside of a cell physiology lab in his life.

No body can " get used to " something it uses the way buildings use

bricks and mortar!!!

A hole in the wall needs bricks (or in USa 2 by 4's and sheet rock). If

you repair ten holes the building does not suddenly not need building

materials to repair a new one because it is " too used to " seeing

building supplies and no longer needs them! Good grief.

> What do you all think?

As I see it you have a couple of options at least:

Tell him to go back to school (Assuming he ever saw one that taught

clinical nutrition, organic chemistry, metabolic pathways or cell

physiology).

Or find a new " doctor " , one who does not make pronouncements in areas he

knows nothing about!

Namaste,

IRene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

michael_vandelaar wrote:

> Supplements are just a form of food with a silly name.

Exactly. These are Essential foods we can no longer get from our trucked

in food grown on over-leached soil grown on overworked farms.

Vitamins in food have a " half-life " , and are missing in food if the land

they grow on has a lack of nutrients. One day after picking, the Vit C

is cut in half or worse. A day later it is cut in half again.

And so it goes, you are lucky to see any in the food in the supermarket!!!

Vitamin and mineral deficiency symptoms abound. See if your nails and

tongue look perfect if you doubt this!

Yet no excess occurs, the body is designed to exclude any excess.

So that leaves zero argument for omitting supplements - except to ensure

that those ones excreted in specific ratios (like B1, B2 and B6 for

example or Ca/Mg etc) - are provided in the appropriate proportions.)

NAmaste,

....Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

I saw a holistic doctor my brother recommended a while ago. One of the

things he told me is that it is good to take a break from taking

vitamin supplements from time to time. That if you take the

supplements all the time, after a while they don't work. Your body

gets too used to them. So you stop taking them for a few weeks and

then take them again. and they work better that way.

What do you think?

- T

[Guest guest]

How does this question relate to Dr. D'Adamo's protocols for

certain conditions, such as inflammation, for which he

recommends bromelain, ginger, etc., and says to use the

supplements for 4-8 weeks. Is he assuming that you will be

well by then, or is he working from a similar presupposition?

Gretchen

----- Original Message -----

From: " Irene de Villiers " <furryboots@...>

> No body can " get used to " something it uses the way

> buildings use bricks and mortar!!!

[Guest guest]

>

> How does this question relate to Dr. D'Adamo's protocols for

> certain conditions, such as inflammation, for which he

> recommends bromelain, ginger, etc., and says to use the

> supplements for 4-8 weeks. Is he assuming that you will be

> well by then, or is he working from a similar presupposition?

>

> Gretchen

>

I'm only guessing here. The protocols are for " conditions " that may

be temporary. If you use them for 4-8 weeks, you then appraise the

situation. If the condition still exists then you would continue with

the protocol.

Perhaps it's trying to simulate a visit to the naturopath. They

appraise your situation, make a diagnosis, suggest a protocol. You

make a return visit and re-appraise the situation.

I think the problem is with the terminology. For myself, I don't take

supplements, I just take the food that I need at any particular time.

If it happens to be in " supplement " form, so be it.

e.g. I take a tablet of kelp every day. I don't view it as a

supplement. It's just part of my breakfast.

Hope this makes some sense.

[Guest guest]

mcpherson.bg@... wrote:

> How does this question relate to Dr. D'Adamo's protocols for

> certain conditions, such as inflammation, for which he

> recommends bromelain, ginger, etc., and says to use the

> supplements for 4-8 weeks. Is he assuming

Gretchen - I don't know what he had in mind, but I do note his

supplements include things like bromelain which is NOT a nutrient - but

a proteolytic enzyme. (An enzyme that destoys protein and which has no

instructions built in to say what protein to destroy!)

Personally I NEVER suggest those as they can be very dangerous in the

body.

So I would not take THOSE supplements indefinitely - only nutrients.

Enzymes are catabolic - they break things down - they are not building

blocks like nutrients.

NAmaste,

IRene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/8/2006 10:26:53 AM Eastern Standard Time,

tamaratornado@... writes:

Well, my bias is that many supplements are created in a lab, rather

than a whole food, so I would tend to agree with the doctor I saw,

that they are more like drugs than food, and you need a break from them.

Well, trash in equals trash out. Take good supplements and there won't be a

problem. If the bottle of vitamins is 10$ for 1000 pills, it's probably not

the best source. I would take a break from crappy supplements for the rest of

my life not just for a little while.

[Guest guest]

> The only reason to take supplements is if you cannot supply the body

> with the correct amount of any nutrient through your normal diet. (I

> actually consider the taking of supplements as part of my normal diet.)

> Therefore, if you know, through some form of self-awareness, that you

> are not getting the right amount of nutrients without taking

> supplements then it doesn't make any sense to me to stop taking them.

>

> Supplements are just a form of food with a silly name.

>

>

>

Well, my bias is that many supplements are created in a lab, rather

than a whole food, so I would tend to agree with the doctor I saw,

that they are more like drugs than food, and you need a break from them.

I try to use whole food supplements, such as kelp powder instead of

processed iodine, acerola cherry powder, instead of ascorbic acid C,

etc. Though I do take some of the " regular " pills too.

But even then, It seems to me that the body doesn't like to get the

same food constantly, that eating the same food constantly leads to

allergies and imbalances, it's good to rotate foods and have variety,

I would think it would be the same with supplements.

I'm trying going off of some of my supplements for a couple weeks and

see how I feel.

- Tamara

[Guest guest]

Tamara wrote:

> Well, my bias is that many supplements are created in a lab, rather

> than a whole food, so I would tend to agree with the doctor I saw,

> that they are more like drugs than food, and you need a break from them.

Tamara, No that is not correct.

The checmical structure of Vitamin C or other nutrients from whole food

plants is the SAME as that made in a lab.

Your doctor needs chemistry lessons.

> I try to use whole food supplements, such as kelp powder instead of

> processed iodine, acerola cherry powder, instead of ascorbic acid C,

> etc. Though I do take some of the " regular " pills too.

There are pros and cons to your approach and what works for you depends

onn your circumstances:

I can not use Acerola C as it has a bunch of stuff in it that my body

does not like - and I need the Vitamin C not the junk that comes with it

by taking acerola. I also need a great deal of Vit C due an illness and

would get sick on the junk that comes with it if I used acerola.

So instead I buy pure (USP certified) Vitamin C (ascorbic acid

crystals) - and that is Vitamin C and nothing else.

Nothing can make my body need a break from this pure Vitamin C -

that's pure fiction! But YOUR body may need a break from the junk that

comes with it in acerola C:-) Your body cannot need a break from vitamin

C itself - it is a part of your body and your body knows what to do with

it, whether you take a lot or a little:-

The stuff in acerola - well that is another matter....

> But even then, It seems to me that the body doesn't like to get the

> same food constantly,

That is why I do not use acerola C type supplements.

My system NEEDS the Vitamin C - but not the other stuff in acerola.

> that eating the same food constantly leads to

> allergies and imbalances,

Which is a risk wiht your acerola approach but not with my pure ascorbic

acid approach.

Of course it is possible that there is something in acerola C that your

body likes - but - all the time???

> it's good to rotate foods and have variety,

> I would think it would be the same with supplements.

No because a supplement is a part of your body - it's not just food.

Your body can not function without that specific supplement in a

specific amount. (Suggest yo look up what happens when there is a

deficiency of any nutrient - seems like your doctor needs to see that

too) And if you " give it a break " from that necessary nutrient, you are

denying your body a part of its functionailty, and risking disease.

There is no such thing as a deficiency of a specific food - but there

is for vitamins, minerals etc - nutrients.

> I'm trying going off of some of my supplements for a couple weeks and

> see how I feel.

Bad idea.

Your body will be adjusted to using them and will not know that it

suddenly has to conserve certain functions that you are not going to

allow it to perform. It's like asking your car to run without gas!

Deficiency symptoms may take time to show up physically - but you are

risking illness and ineffficiency of your system - your immune system

will suffer first as well as your ability to handle stress.

Namaste,

IRene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

Tamara wrote:

> Well, my bias is that many supplements are created in a lab, rather

> than a whole food, so I would tend to agree with the doctor I saw,

> that they are more like drugs than food, and you need a break from

them.

>

> I try to use whole food supplements, such as kelp powder instead of

> processed iodine, acerola cherry powder, instead of ascorbic acid C,

> etc. Though I do take some of the " regular " pills too.

>

So your argument is: " I don't like supplements unless they're

supplements that I like " .

You should have said in your original post that you were talking

about bad supplements not the good ones that you take. LOL :-)

> But even then, It seems to me that the body doesn't like to get the

> same food constantly, that eating the same food constantly leads to

> allergies and imbalances, it's good to rotate foods and have

variety,

> I would think it would be the same with supplements.

>

Once the food has passed through the digestive system, how does the

body know that it's getting the same food constantly? All food is

broken down into it's constituent parts.

Pardon my confusion but how exactly does eating the same beneficial

food constantly cause " allergies and imbalance " ?

> I'm trying going off of some of my supplements for a couple weeks

and

> see how I feel.

>

And that's the whole idea I was getting at. You need to review what

food you are eating, be it in " food " form or supplement form. It is

up to the self-aware person to regulate what you take in. But that is

a separate point to " are supplements any good to take constantly? "

[Guest guest]

Tamara wrote:

>

> I saw a holistic doctor my brother recommended a while ago. One of the

> things he told me is that it is good to take a break from taking

> vitamin supplements from time to time. That if you take the

> supplements all the time, after a while they don't work. Your body

> gets too used to them. So you stop taking them for a few weeks and

> then take them again. and they work better that way.

==>It is not true that vitamins don't work when you take them all the

time, but it is a good idea to stop taking all supplements for 1 day

only once a month to allow your body to re-adjust itself. You would

never stop taking them for a " few weeks " and you never stop taking

whole foods, i.e. coconut oil and garlic.

Bee