Re: , on being ignored

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> Said:

> I'm not doing very well at all. I've been so discouraged. And the

thing that got me down even more was when I came here and expressed

myself and my cheats I was ignored and did not get any support(not one

person gave me an encouraging word).

--I know the reason why I didn't respond and give encouraging

words is because I know I'd be a phoney. I wake up every morning and

start the diet again. By the end of the day, I've cheated. I think a

lot of us are in the same position and are all struggling with the same

issues. But the one thing that keeps me going, is that when I was on

the diet for a long period of time, I felt great and life was normal

again. I want that normal feeling to be permanent. Keep trying. I do.

~

[Guest guest]

Bee, I sure did not want to make a big deal out of this and sound like I was

upset. I just got so far off base through the summer and know that it is all my

own fault. I do know that I've had alot of support in the past here. Everyone,

including you have been just wonderful and helpful. I know that I've had many

responses to my posts in the past year of being here. What I was referring to

was my last post, after my trip out west. I came on here and admitted cheating

and said how I was eating alot of Ice cream and other things. That is when I

don't recall getting any support. Maybe I missed it. But funny thing--around

that time I had a dream that because I mentioned ice cream -- you kicked me off

the forum. I know it was just a dream (or a nightmare!) and it did not happen.

Silly me, dreaming this!!!! I guess we all need to be a little more supportive

of those who have such a rough time with following the plan perfectly. Sometimes

I feel like the only one who cheats here,

but I guess we are all reluctant to admit it sometimes. I am going to get back

on track on Monday, as I did not do too well today. It was our anniversary and

we went out to eat. Once more I thought---get your fill before starting again!

Thanks Bee, for all your support. I really was feeling wonderful, before I went

off course. I was about 90% better. I want to be there again. Your candida diet

is the best there is! Val

Bee Wilder <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

Said:

I'm not doing very well at all. I've been so discouraged. And the thing

that got me down even more was when I came here and expressed myself

and my cheats I was ignored and did not get any support(not one person

gave me an encouraging word).

==>Dear , it is unfortunate you felt you were ignored. I

apologize if that was the case. But I checked your first post on our

group and you received 9 messages in response which were very

supportive, and so were many other messages you received in response to

over 111 messages you posted. I did not find any of your messages that

were ignored.

Bee

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I guess we all need to be a little more supportive of those who

have such a rough time with following the plan perfectly. Sometimes I

feel like the only one who cheats here,

> but I guess we are all reluctant to admit it sometimes. I am going

to get back on track on Monday, as I did not do too well today. It

was our anniversary and we went out to eat. Once more I thought---get

your fill before starting again! Thanks Bee, for all your support. I

really was feeling wonderful, before I went off course. I was about

90% better. I want to be there again. Your candida diet is the best

there is! Val

>

Hi Val. I probably didn't read your post-vacation post as I don't

always read all the posts. But I certainly understand and hope you

can get back on track and stay there.

I've been on the diet approx 3 mo and I have cheated a few times. My

first inkling that I had candida was when I got oral thrush. It took

me a few weeks of researching to find this forum and prior to that I

kept unknowingly eating foods that I shouldn't have. Then I found

this forum and try to stick to the diet, but every once in a while

try to introduce something new. Anytime I eat something I shouldn't I

get an immediate reaction in my mouth and lips - the oral thrush

comes back or gets worse, my lips get sores, crack and swell up.

This last time, instead of a reaction in my lips, I got weeping sores

on both sides of my nose, all along the crease on the sides of the

nostrils and down onto my upper lip! I still have them after a week

though it is somewhat better and I look awful!

I tried making a flatbread with garbanzo beans and didn't realize

there is sugar in the flour. Boy, I will never do that again!! There

are a couple of things I do eat that are not recommended but that

have not given me any reactions. I've been reluctant to post about

these because I don't want to encourage anyone else to eat something

that's not on the diet. Just because it works ok for me doesn't mean

it will work ok for anyone else. I eat a matzo cracker almost every

day. I slather it thick with butter and it has helped me stabilize

my weight loss and I have not had any kind of reaction to it.

Occasionally I spread almond butter on it again with no reaction. It

is made from wheat flour though so I certainly do not recommend it

for anyone to try. I also had so much light-headedness every morning

that I tried eating a few slices of a peach. It helped with the

light-headedness immensely. I can now eat one peach a day without any

reaction. I had read somewhere (not here) - and now can't find where

I read it LOL - that apples, peaches, pears and some berries are ok

to eat because your body metabolizes them so quickly -- something

like that - can't remember exactly what it said. Anyway, it works

for me, but again I would not recommend it for anyone else.

My gr-son is getting married Oct 7 and I am sooooo worried about

sticking to the diet while I'm there. The one thing that keeps me

pretty much on track is that every time I cheat I end up looking like

some kind of diseased freak with the swollen lips and now these

sores, etc. I don't want to go to the wedding looking like this. I

will be staying at my son's house which will help because I can cook

my own food and will be bringing some of my own food with me. I

probably won't be able to eat anything, or much of anything, at the

reception though. I hope I can get through it ok.

This diet is really hard! I'm not missing sugars so much, but am

missing breads. I really, really want to eat some kind of bread and

know I can't.

Anyway, sorry this is soooooo long. I hope you can get back on track

and feel better soon!

Hugs!!

Gail

[Guest guest]

Val wrote:

>

> Bee, I sure did not want to make a big deal out of this and sound

like I was upset.

==>It is quite okay to be upset Val. I just didn't want other

members to think we didn't support you. If we messed up when you got

back from vacation it wasn't done on purpose. I don't know when you

got back from vacation but if it was while I was visiting my parents

then I wouldn't have been around. Also I'm trying to allow others to

chime in with support as much as possible because my time is limited,

and I'm also writing many other articles to help the group as well as

trying to write my book.

> I just got so far off base through the summer and know that it is

all my own fault. I do know that I've had alot of support in the past

here. Everyone, including you have been just wonderful and helpful. I

know that I've had many responses to my posts in the past year of

being here. What I was referring to was my last post, after my trip

out west. I came on here and admitted cheating and said how I was

eating alot of Ice cream and other things. That is when I don't

recall getting any support. Maybe I missed it. But funny thing--

around that time I had a dream that because I mentioned ice cream --

you kicked me off the forum. I know it was just a dream (or a

nightmare!) and it did not happen. Silly me, dreaming this!!!!

>I guess we all need to be a little more supportive of those who have

such a rough time with following the plan perfectly. Sometimes I feel

like the only one who cheats here, but I guess we are all reluctant

to admit it sometimes.

==>Val, I hope you always feel you can admit to cheating on this

group. You are certainly not alone. That reminds me not to be so

blunt in stating that something isn't allowed, and that I should be

more supportive and understanding about cheating and that is so very

hard to resist. And it is part of the whole candida syndrome.

> I am going to get back on track on Monday, as I did not do too well

today. It was our anniversary and we went out to eat. Once more I

thought---get your fill before starting again! Thanks Bee, for all

your support. I really was feeling wonderful, before I went off

course. I was about 90% better. I want to be there again. Your

candida diet is the best there is!

==>You go girl!! I can feel your sassy diva self coming out

already! I'm glad you agree my candida diet is the best! It does

get results.

Hugs, Bee

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Gail wrote:

There are a couple of things I do eat that are not recommended but

that have not given me any reactions. I've been reluctant to post

about these because I don't want to encourage anyone else to eat

something that's not on the diet. Just because it works ok for me

doesn't mean it will work ok for anyone else. I eat a matzo cracker

almost every day. I slather it thick with butter and it has helped

me stabilize my weight loss and I have not had any kind of reaction

to it. Occasionally I spread almond butter on it again with no

reaction. It is made from wheat flour though so I certainly do not

recommend it for anyone to try.

==>Hi Gail. You eat only one matzo cracker every day and don't use

much almond butter, your intake is minimal, so even if the cracker is

not properly prepared as all grains must be, and the almonds are not

soaked they won't cause any noticeable affects. Even that small of

an amount could cause reactions in others, as you pointed out.

<I also had so much light-headedness every morning that I tried

eating a few slices of a peach. It helped with the light-headedness

immensely. I can now eat one peach a day without any reaction. I had

read somewhere (not here) - and now can't find where I read it LOL -

that apples, peaches, pears and some berries are ok to eat because

your body metabolizes them so quickly -- something like that - can't

remember exactly what it said. Anyway, it works for me, but again I

would not recommend it for anyone else.

==>Here's an excerpt from a reference by Dr. Appleton about Fructose

contained in fruits:

http://www.mercola.com/2002/jan/5/fructose.htm

" Fructose is not metabolized the same as other sugars. Instead of

being converted to glucose which the body uses, it is removed by the

liver. Because it is metabolized by the liver, fructose does not

cause the pancreas to release insulin the way it normally does.

Fructose converts to fat more than any other sugar. This may be one

of the reasons Americans continue to get fatter. Fructose raises

serum triglycerides significantly. As a left-handed sugar, fructose

digestion is very low. For complete internal conversion of fructose

into glucose and acetates, it must rob ATP energy stores from the

liver. "

==>When you have candida and you are on this program (diet &

supplements) the most common cause of lightheadedness is not low

blood sugar levels, it is adrenal fatigue. When on this diet with

it's protein levels and high good fats you couldn't possibly have low

blood sugar because 58% of protein and 10% of fat turns into glucose

in the body which supplies plenty of sugars to keep blood levels

normal even if you didn't eat any carbs or sugars of any kind.

>This diet is really hard! I'm not missing sugars so much, but am

> missing breads. I really, really want to eat some kind of bread

and know I can't.

==>Peaches are fruit, and crackers are a form of bread my friend so

you wouldn't be missing them really?

Bee

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> <I also had so much light-headedness every morning that I tried

> eating a few slices of a peach. It helped with the light-

headedness

> immensely. I can now eat one peach a day without any reaction. I

had

> read somewhere (not here) - and now can't find where I read it LOL -

> that apples, peaches, pears and some berries are ok to eat because

> your body metabolizes them so quickly -- something like that -

can't

> remember exactly what it said. Anyway, it works for me, but again

I

> would not recommend it for anyone else.

>

> ==>Here's an excerpt from a reference by Dr. Appleton about

Fructose

> contained in fruits:

> http://www.mercola.com/2002/jan/5/fructose.htm

> " Fructose is not metabolized the same as other sugars. Instead of

> being converted to glucose which the body uses, it is removed by

the

> liver. Because it is metabolized by the liver, fructose does not

> cause the pancreas to release insulin the way it normally does.

> Fructose converts to fat more than any other sugar. This may be one

> of the reasons Americans continue to get fatter. Fructose raises

> serum triglycerides significantly. As a left-handed sugar, fructose

> digestion is very low. For complete internal conversion of fructose

> into glucose and acetates, it must rob ATP energy stores from the

> liver. "

I didn't know all of that. I did find this additional info " The

important distinction is that in fruit the quantity of fructose is

small and it is bound to complex plant fiber, nutrients and minerals.

Because of this fructose contained in fruit is slowly released into

the bloodstream and fruits are considered a valuable protection

against cardiovascular disease and other health problems because of

their powerful anti-oxidant qualities. "

>

> ==>When you have candida and you are on this program (diet &

> supplements) the most common cause of lightheadedness is not low

> blood sugar levels, it is adrenal fatigue. When on this diet with

> it's protein levels and high good fats you couldn't possibly have

low

> blood sugar because 58% of protein and 10% of fat turns into

glucose

> in the body which supplies plenty of sugars to keep blood levels

> normal even if you didn't eat any carbs or sugars of any kind.

>

I don't know what my blood sugar was/is. I don't know why this helped

me, but I tried increasing fat, protein, lemon drink, eating more

frequently, etc to reduce/eliminate the light-headeness and nothing

worked. I don't always eat a peach every single day. I might skip a

day or two here and there. But as long as it's not causing any

reactions I'll probably continue.

What do you do for adrenal fatigue?

> >This diet is really hard! I'm not missing sugars so much, but am

> > missing breads. I really, really want to eat some kind of bread

> and know I can't.

>

> ==>Peaches are fruit, and crackers are a form of bread my friend so

> you wouldn't be missing them really?

Yeah, the cracker is a real treat, but it's just not the same as

dipping a piece of toast in my egg yolk, or having my hamburger on a

slice of bread, or sopping up good fatty gravy ... LOL --- maybe

some day in the future ...

Thanks for your wealth of information. I know I can always find

proper info and advice here.

Gail

[Guest guest]

Gail wrote:

>

> > <I also had so much light-headedness every morning that I tried

> > eating a few slices of a peach. It helped with the light-

> headedness immensely. I can now eat one peach a day without any

reaction. I had read somewhere (not here) - and now can't find where

I read it LOL -that apples, peaches, pears and some berries are ok to

eat because your body metabolizes them so quickly -- something like

that - can't remember exactly what it said. Anyway, it works for me,

but again I would not recommend it for anyone else.

Bee wrote:

> > ==>Here's an excerpt from a reference by Dr. Appleton about

> Fructose contained in fruits:

> > http://www.mercola.com/2002/jan/5/fructose.htm

> > " Fructose is not metabolized the same as other sugars. Instead of

> > being converted to glucose which the body uses, it is removed by

> the liver. Because it is metabolized by the liver, fructose does

not cause the pancreas to release insulin the way it normally does.

>Fructose converts to fat more than any other sugar. This may be one

> > of the reasons Americans continue to get fatter. Fructose raises

> > serum triglycerides significantly. As a left-handed sugar,

fructose digestion is very low. For complete internal conversion of

fructose into glucose and acetates, it must rob ATP energy stores

from the liver. "

+++Gail please read the entire article above, and also do a search on

Dr. Mercola's website for fructose. It is the worst sugar you can

eat, and it also feeds candida. It must always be accompanied by

plenty of good fats to slow their release into the system.

> I didn't know all of that. I did find this additional info " The

> important distinction is that in fruit the quantity of fructose is

> small and it is bound to complex plant fiber, nutrients and

minerals. Because of this fructose contained in fruit is slowly

released into the bloodstream and fruits are considered a valuable

protection against cardiovascular disease and other health problems

because of their powerful anti-oxidant qualities. "

++++I don't believe this information. See Dr. Mercola on fructose.

Bee Wrote:

> > ==>When you have candida and you are on this program (diet &

> > supplements) the most common cause of lightheadedness is not low

> > blood sugar levels, it is adrenal fatigue. When on this diet

with it's protein levels and high good fats you couldn't possibly

have low blood sugar because 58% of protein and 10% of fat turns into

> glucose in the body which supplies plenty of sugars to keep blood

levels normal even if you didn't eat any carbs or sugars of any kind.

> I don't know what my blood sugar was/is. I don't know why this

helped me, but I tried increasing fat, protein, lemon drink, eating

more frequently, etc to reduce/eliminate the light-headeness and

nothing worked. I don't always eat a peach every single day. I might

skip a day or two here and there. But as long as it's not causing

any reactions I'll probably continue. What do you do for adrenal

fatigue?

+++Adrenal fatigue will continue to cause problem until you progress

far enough on the program. See the article on it in our files. It

is one of the best articles I've ever written to help people!

Bee

[Guest guest]

Gail,

I invite you to consider that the reason you " miss "

bread so much is because of all your little cheats.

You say they work for you but I can tell you from a

lot of experience that if you are truly sticking to

the diet your cravings do subside. But having just a

little taste here and there just keeps you craving.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- gmgblues <gmgblues@...> wrote:

> This diet is really hard! I'm not missing sugars so

> much, but am

> missing breads. I really, really want to eat some

> kind of bread and

> know I can't.

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

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> I invite you to consider that the reason you " miss "

> bread so much is because of all your little cheats.

> You say they work for you but I can tell you from a

> lot of experience that if you are truly sticking to

> the diet your cravings do subside. But having just a

> little taste here and there just keeps you craving.

>

Hi Debby. That could very well be. I don't crave it all the time

though just miss it while eating certain foods, like the dipping in

egg yolk, with a hamburger, or to be able to have a tuna salad

sandwich, etc. Except for the egg yolk - LOL - I love eggs over-easy

if I can dip toast into the yolk. But now I don't like eggs that way

cause I can't dip I think mostly it's the filling effect bread

gives me that I miss. I eat tuna salads but it doesn't fill me up

like a tuna sandwich would. The only meals I feel full is when I eat

a lot of meat.

I'm afraid if I give up the daily cracker I'll keep losing weight and

I just can't afford to lose anymore.

((hugs))

Gail

[Guest guest]

Gail wrote:

>

> Hi Debby. That could very well be. I don't crave it all the time

> though just miss it while eating certain foods, like the dipping in

> egg yolk, with a hamburger, or to be able to have a tuna salad

> sandwich, etc. Except for the egg yolk - LOL - I love eggs over-easy

if I can dip toast into the yolk. But now I don't like eggs that way

cause I can't dip I think mostly it's the filling effect bread

gives me that I miss. I eat tuna salads but it doesn't fill me up like

a tuna sandwich would. The only meals I feel full is when I eat> a lot

of meat.

==>It is okay to have a " lot of meat " but do ensure you are having

enough good fats along with it.

>

> I'm afraid if I give up the daily cracker I'll keep losing weight and

> I just can't afford to lose anymore.

==>As I have stated before, weight is the very least of your problems

when you have candida. At this point you can choose to " not to lose

weight " or " treat the candida " - treating candida is much more

important.

Hugs, Bee

[Guest guest]

--- gmgblues <gmgblues@...> wrote:

> Hi Debby. That could very well be. I don't crave

> it all the time

> though just miss it while eating certain foods, like

> the dipping in

> egg yolk, with a hamburger, or to be able to have a

> tuna salad

> sandwich, etc. Except for the egg yolk - LOL - I

> love eggs over-easy

> if I can dip toast into the yolk. But now I don't

> like eggs that way

> cause I can't dip I think mostly it's the

> filling effect bread

> gives me that I miss. I eat tuna salads but it

> doesn't fill me up

> like a tuna sandwich would. The only meals I feel

> full is when I eat

> a lot of meat.

Well definitely eat a lot of meat then! LOL. But

seriously, when dealing with eating this way there are

emotional and physical problems.. it's hard to

distinguish them. The emotional issues are helped

most when you really get it in your head clearly how

much more you benefit when not eating bad foods as

opposed to what you lose.

Also when you are clear that those foods are not going

to do anything for you that you expect them to do,

like give you comfort or remind you of better times,

etc. Or they might do that for a very fleeting amount

of time but then there will be a much longer

recuperation time where you are dealing with feeling

guilty, disappointed, physically ill, etc.

There is of course a trade off, but I think most

people would agree that being healthy is much better

than being able to eat what ever food you want if you

were to compare benefits.

BUT.. there's lots of things that go with that. Of

course it's often easy to convince ourselves that we

are OK with things and that this particular thing

isn't that bad or we need it for some reason. Knowing

how to make good choices and making them are two

different things entirely! I knew a long time ago

which path to walk but that didn't make me walk it!

This is the human condition.. we instictively go for

immediate pleasure.

There is nothing wrong with us for doing so.. this is

as natural as it gets. How you break that cycle

involves at the most fundamental level making a

*choice* that you are going to do this, and using

logic and planning every step of the way to support

yourself in following that decision.

This is why I talk so much about planning your meals

out in advance. Yes it seems anal and dull to have a

" routine " , but the routine allows you to by pass your

instinctive drive for pleasure and put your logical

brain at the wheel making your food choices for you.

The other part of the problem is the physical sugar

cravings. A little bite here and a little bite there

can spell disaster for many people. I know that some

people here don't have this problem. Some people can

have one off plan meal a month and have it not even

phase them.

But my guess is that if you are eating something off

plan each day, this is a problem for you. My

apologies if this doesn't fit you, just my impression.

It's kind of like you are resisting doing it all the

way you know it should be because you are bargaining

for that one little thing that keeps you from having

to completely give up the sugar addiction, if that

makes sense.

Please know that I know absolutely how hard this is..

it is SOOo hard to fight the physical cravings, the

emotional feelings, the comfort, the social

situations, etc. It is hard but it is possible, if

you really want it. And I promise that when you get

it you will see it's soo much better when you are free

of the chains of eating for pleasure or to stuff away

feelings or for cravings and it becomes a chore, like

washing your clothes.

> I'm afraid if I give up the daily cracker I'll keep

> losing weight and

> I just can't afford to lose anymore.

I can understand that fear, even though I have the

opposite problem. Really though I do believe that

obesity and being underweight are just different

reactions to the same problem.. a sign of a weak

immune system. In one case the immune system reacts

by making us larger, and the other thinner. Either

way the solution is the same.. eat this way.

I did want to point out also that IMO, and this is

just my opinion, there are definitely some foods that

are better than others. If you really wanted to

insist on eating something carby to halt weight loss,

a cracker isn't a wise choice. Grains are very bad

for the immune system. I would think that fruit would

be a slightly better choice than a cracker even if

neither is on this diet or is recommended.

But at least you would have all the problems with the

grains.. grains are bad news. I would recommend that

you eat the fattiest red meat you can, eat as much as

you can, and have it first be a lot of fatty meat like

pork or beef, and lots of fat. If at that point you

still were sure that you wanted more carbs despite

what we say here, I'd add fruit in or higher carb

properly soaked nuts before I would a grain.

I truly believe you never feel full, keep having

cravings because you've left just enough sugar in your

diet so that you've never really switched to burning

dietary fat for fuel instead of carbs. I sure hope

this helps.. I wish you luck and I sympathize with

your plight.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

Today is the most important day.

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making your food choices for you.

>

> But my guess is that if you are eating something off

> plan each day, this is a problem for you. My

> apologies if this doesn't fit you, just my impression.

> It's kind of like you are resisting doing it all the

> way you know it should be because you are bargaining

> for that one little thing that keeps you from having

> to completely give up the sugar addiction, if that

> makes sense.

>

> Please know that I know absolutely how hard this is..

> it is SOOo hard to fight the physical cravings, the

> emotional feelings, the comfort, the social

> situations, etc. It is hard but it is possible, if

> you really want it. And I promise that when you get

> it you will see it's soo much better when you are free

> of the chains of eating for pleasure or to stuff away

> feelings or for cravings and it becomes a chore, like

> washing your clothes.

Lots of great advice, Debby! Actually I rarely have sugar cravings.

Not to say I haven't had a few here and there. Once at the grocery

store I wanted to buy and stuff my face with some bakery goods LOL --

but I didn't. But these types of cravings have been short-lived and I

haven't given in to them. I've put myself on very strict diets before

where I eliminated sugar and lots of processed foods. Over the past

20 years eating to me has been more of an eat to live attitude rather

than a live to eat attitude. Plus taking supplements and drinks that

tasted awful but did it anyway cause I wanted to be healthy. I only

tried the peach because of the light-headedness and when it worked

(and I don't know why it worked) I continued with it. But I don't

crave it for the sugar. Sometimes I'll go a few days and not even

think about it but if I start to feel light-headed, then I'll go

ahead and eat one.

I actually think this diet has been easier for me than a lot of

others here from the posts I've read. The hardest for me has been

the not feeling full and loss of weight. My cheats have arisen from

trying to find something I can add that won't cause any reactions and

fill me up not to satisfy a craving. I think in the beginning of the

diet I really did " crave " breads just for the breads. I did have some

sugar cravings too but not many as I hadn't been eating much sugar

prior to going on the diet. But now it's more of a missing it with a

couple of different foods (like the eggs) and that it is filling. I

also thought in the beginning that I could never go without eating

fruit, but I did and the craving for fruit went away. I do eat a lot

of meat. I was always a big meat eater (prior to the low-fat diet I

was on for many years before getting on the candida diet) and so I'm

really enjoying the meat loafs, steaks, chops, etc. But my grocery

bill is becoming a bit expensive and money is tight. I'm still

struggling at preparing meals ahead of time or enough for more than

one meal, etc. -- but getting a bit better. I've never been a

real " creative " cook so this is a challenge for me.

>

> > I'm afraid if I give up the daily cracker I'll keep

> > losing weight and

> > I just can't afford to lose anymore.

>

> I can understand that fear, even though I have the

> opposite problem. Really though I do believe that

> obesity and being underweight are just different

> reactions to the same problem.. a sign of a weak

> immune system. In one case the immune system reacts

> by making us larger, and the other thinner. Either

> way the solution is the same.. eat this way.

>

> I did want to point out also that IMO, and this is

> just my opinion, there are definitely some foods that

> are better than others. If you really wanted to

> insist on eating something carby to halt weight loss,

> a cracker isn't a wise choice. Grains are very bad

> for the immune system. I would think that fruit would

> be a slightly better choice than a cracker even if

> neither is on this diet or is recommended.

The fruit isn't filling. The cracker is filling plus I've been able

to maintain my weight pretty well now. I do appreciate your advice

though. I also slather tons of butter on the cracker which I think

helps give me the " full " feeling. I'm going through abt a stick of

butter a day (not just on the cracker). I do understand that being

healthy is more important than worrying about weight loss. But I

can't afford to keep buying clothes as my weight keeps dropping.

Right now I have very few things to wear and don't want to spend any

money (little that there is) on clothes that might fit for a week and

then don't fit anymore. If I never had to go anywhere and could just

hibernate in the house until I had this candida licked then I guess

it wouldn't be an issue LOL. So there are some practical things I

have to take into consideration too.

I saw that some people were eating a small amt of brown rice. I

tried that the other day, but it gave me kind of a bloated feeling so

I don't think I'll have it anymore. The cracker doesn't give me any

type of reaction.

>

> I truly believe you never feel full, keep having

> cravings because you've left just enough sugar in your

> diet so that you've never really switched to burning

> dietary fat for fuel instead of carbs. I sure hope

> this helps.. I wish you luck and I sympathize with

> your plight.

The only sugar is from the occasional peach. And the peach does not

give me the reactions I would get if I ate something else with

sugar. I read the labels on everything I buy to make sure there

isn't any type of sugar in it because I know if I eat anything with

even the slightest bit of sugar I'll get the awful cracked and

swollen lips, and the recent weeping sores along my nose. I don't

ever want to have that happen again. It was so awful. The weeping

sores started when I tried the garbanzo bean flour flatbread. I

truly did not realize there was sugar in that flour or I never would

have tried it. And I did read the label ... I don't know how I missed

it!

I do want to get well and have been trying to follow everything else

on the the diet. I need to still add a bit more fat and am probably

not taking as much coconut oil as I should yet. I cut back on that

because of severe die-off. I'm going to try increasing that slowly

now again. I do put a ton of butter on everything and I eat a few

tbsp of the home-made mayonnaise just about every day.

I appreciate all of your kind words, support and advice!

((hugs))

Gail

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Hi Debby and Gail, I'd like to copy and past parts of both of your great

posts, but my computer won't let me. I have to delete the whole post or copy and

past just one part. It was very interesting reading what you both wrote. I sure

understand what Gail is going through. I have alot of the same issues.

I was following the diet perfectly from January 2nd till this July 18. That is

6 months. I figured in one or two months more I would have completely eliminated

my candida. My vaginal itch and rash were almost better, and everything else was

gone. I did not have a complaint left, except the vag thing. I actually started

following the diet last August, but I went very slow due to the die-off. It was

on January 2 that I followed it perfectly, without a cheat. I did lose my sugar

cravings, but I was still always hungry. I was always trying to keep my strength

and energy up by eating eggs and meat and veggies throughout the day. Also the

good fats--coconut oil and lots of butter. I drank the egg drink to get me

through, and I also sipped on the lemon and sea salt water often.

Still, I kept losing and was in the exact same situation with clothes as

Gail. I went from 152lbs to 120lbs. From size 12 down to size 6. I did feel good

about it, but I also did not want to keep losing and having to buy smaller

clothes. I felt good to hear how great I looked. But somehow I lost strength at

work. I have to lift patients and almost fell lifting one lady---many times. I

did not have help as I do private duty nursing and had to do it myself. It was

as if I did not have the strength or power to lift a normal weight person. Since

getting off the diet, I gained 12lbs back and am able to lift with strength

again. I am also now working 6 days a week and some 10 to 12 hour shifts, so I

really have not had anytime to cook at all for myself and get back on my

program. I really plan to do it as I felt so good, I don't want to feel so

sluggish as I do. I also need to do this for my diabetes. On the diet, my blood

sugar stabalized and my blood pressure was perfect.

I'm sorry to say that I've not been able to get back here to read all my

responses. I see all the support I got and really wanted to reply to everyone.

Debby, I've flagged your messages on all your cooking ideas and time management

tips. I will print them out and definately use them when I have some time in the

kitchen. Right now it seems that I only have acsess to a microwave to heat food

at work. That is something I would never do for a year or more. Now I have no

choice. I'm now cooking up some egg salad for work tomorrow a 12 hour shift. But

I'm not sure if I can eat it without bread yet. I need to get through the day

and not be hungry or have enough to get me by. I'm out of coconut oil right now

and gotta wait to get more.

I just want to say, I really understand what Gail is trying to say as I've

been there, in the same situation. I am back to craving sugar though and she is

not. That has always been a big part of my problem. I am such a carb addict. One

little cheat always sets me off. Then it seems you have every excuse in the

world for not getting back on track. You definately understand that Debby. I

agree with what you wrote about that being such a big problem with many of us

here. I know that I will do it though. I have to find the time soon. My work by

the way slows down off and on. Last winter, I did not have much and that is why

I was able to follow the plan so perfectly, I just sat home and kept away from

temptation, people and food. It was so nice and easy compared to now with my

busy summer and families here, and vacationing. I can admire all you who can

handle all of it and still hang in there, and be so strong. It is an inspiration

to all of us here. Val

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>

>

> I was always trying to keep my strength and energy up

>

>But somehow I lost strength at work. I have to lift patients and

>almost fell lifting one lady---many times. I did not have help as I

>do private duty nursing and had to do it myself. It was as if I did

>not have the strength or power to lift a normal weight person. Since

>getting off the diet, I gained 12lbs back and am able to lift with

>strength again.

This is interesting to me as on my " good " days when I'm feeling

pretty normal and energetic I do not have the strength I used to. I

don't have any heavy duty work to do, but I tire very easily with the

smallest amt of physical activity. I was hoping when I'm really

better then I would have the strength and energy back ... but maybe

not ? I'm semi-retired and earn some money selling my handmade soap

and stuff. Before I got " sick " I was looking for a part-time job but

had to put that on hold until I can feel well enough to be able to go

to a job.

I haven't started any aerobic exercises (usually I don't feel well

enough), but I do toning and strengthening exercises regularly. I

must say that I do feel much better now than I did for the first mo

or two on the diet though.

I haven't had the vaginal stuff, but I do have the oral thrush and

still have a bit of white on my tongue. I check it every day -

hoping not to see any more white LOL.

I used to fluctuate between 130-135 and now am 113-115. I'm 5'3 " so

it's not a bad weight for me to stay at, but don't want to lose

anymore. Haven't been this skinny since I was a teenager! and I'm a

gr-grandma now!

I've never had much will power for much of anything. Probably would

be classed as an addictive personality . But abt 16 yrs ago my

youngest bro - then 37 and 10 yrs younger than me - had to have bi-

pass surgery. It scared the heck out of me. Everyone in my family

had had either angioplasty or bi-pass surgery. At the time my diet

was horrible and I ate so much junk and sugar. I decided then and

there that I did not want to have to go through what my bro and other

family members went through and changed my diet immediately. Since

then I've looked at food as something to keep my body healthy and not

something for pleasure. Not to say I didn't revert back to bad

eating habits. I went for abt 2 yrs being really strict then started

eating some bad stuff here and there. Then it got to where I'd eat

really good for a long period of time, then I'd start eating bad and

when I would begin to not feel well, eat good again. A vicious

cycle - until the candida. Now I have to stick to it!

Val, I sure hope your work slows down a bit and you can get back on

the diet and feel better. Hope you have more time soon to be on the

forum and I look forward to your posts. We can do this girl!

Best to you and lots of ((hugs))

Gail

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--- gmgblues <gmgblues@...> wrote:

> Lots of great advice, Debby! Actually I rarely have

> sugar cravings.

But this is probably because you *are* having sugar

every day, so why should you need to crave it when you

are already having it?

> I actually think this diet has been easier for me

> than a lot of

> others here from the posts I've read. The hardest

> for me has been

> the not feeling full and loss of weight.

I'm guessing this is because you probably have

something going on with your blood sugar (which is

made worse by adding in carbs) and you keep that

problem going and never let your engine fully kick

over to fat burning mode.

> My cheats

> have arisen from

> trying to find something I can add that won't cause

> any reactions and

> fill me up not to satisfy a craving.

I hope you don't mind me saying, but I think this

might be what you tell yourself but I'm guessing this

isn't true.

The fact is that meat and fat are *known* to be more

satisfying and filling, and carbs are known not to be.

You say to yourself that you must have this carb

because you are having this empty feeling that only

carbs can fill.

But I'm telling you that you are having that empty

feeling because your sugar is running low and you've

never let it totally get empty and switch over to fat.

If you want to really see if you can turn this around,

I challenge you to stick to this diet 100% with ZERO

cheats for two weeks, and then tell me how you feel.

No borderline foods either. No stevia, no high sugar

veggies, no crackers.. just the very basics.

> But now it's more of a

> missing it with a

> couple of different foods (like the eggs) and that

> it is filling.

I invite you to consider that you have an emotional

attachment with these foods as well. Just because you

are not over weight doesn't mean that you might not

have a problem with foods, both emotionally and

physically.

> But my grocery

> bill is becoming a bit expensive and money is tight.

Yes and this is really important though. It's your

health that we are talking about. So definitely find

some where else to cut on your budget.

> I'm still

> struggling at preparing meals ahead of time or

> enough for more than

> one meal, etc. -- but getting a bit better. I've

> never been a

> real " creative " cook so this is a challenge for me.

I'm not either.. I find plain and simple does it for

me.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

Today is the most important day.

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>

> Hi Gail, Gee, you sound so much like me. I almost could have

written this. I also tend to be an addictive personality. Good thing

I no longer smoke (that was one addiction 25 years ago) and I've

never drank or I'd be who knows where. Mine is mainly a sugar

addiction and i'm such a glutton for good food. I've gone back and

forth as you have also, for health reasons for years. I'm lucky in

the fact that I have close friends and family that have been

interested in nutrition and alternative health. I've been studying

it for 15-20 years. But sometimes I get this all or nothing attitude.

I feel that if I can't do it perfectly--forget it all and cheat and

eat. I then forget all I've worked so hard for and go into an " I

don't care mode " . It doesn't last long though and I always go back

into eating healthy. I just know that Bee's diet plan is the best one

I've ever done. It took time, but I felt so wonderful.

Oh, I know ... my back and forth from healthy to not attitude was

usually " well I feel really great right now so it won't hurt if I eat

some of this " junk " . " Not! Then I'd over do it and keep

eating " junk, " start feeling bad and then know I had to cut it out

and go back to healthy.

>

> How long have you been on this diet, Gail? You say that you still

tire easily. Well I did too as the die-off lingered on. It took me at

least 6 months to get to feeling really good. why and that I felt

wonderful.

> Gail, I know as time goes on you will get your energy back, keep

going, you will see. I understand about being concerned about losing

weight continually. But hopefully it will even out and stay at one

place.

I've only been on the diet about 3 mo so I look forward to getting

all that energy back. I do have days here and there that I feel

really good and energetic. So far my weight seems to have stabilized

(though it might be cause I won't give up that cracker a day LOL).

You say you are a great grandma? How nice, I'm a grandma to 6 and one

on the way. I'm 54. I was also thinking about making soaps and

lotions as one of my craft projects for bazaars. Do you make natural

soaps? I'm looking for a company to buy supplies from, maybe you can

direct me.

I'm 63, sis . I have one gr-grandson. He just started

kindergarten. I want more babies in the family! LOL! Unfortunately

my children and I are all scattered in different states. But we get

together at least once a year and sometimes oftener. I'll be seeing

everyone at my grandson's wedding next month and can't wait. I make

a couple of natural soaps and the others would be considered natural

except for the colorants and fragrances. E-mail me privately if you

need some info.

> Yes, I sure hope things slow down for me, so I can concentrate on

fighting candida again. I can't let this get the best of me. I know

right now I have to take all the work I can get while it is there.

Sometimes it gets real slow in private duty nursing. I sure hope it

all works out for you. Keep me updated and lets keep in touch.

(((Hugs)))Val

>

Hang in there, you'll be able to do it and get back to where you need

to be. Thanks for all your support. It really helps.

Love & Hugs

Gail

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>

> But this is probably because you *are* having sugar

> every day, so why should you need to crave it when you

> are already having it?

Am not having sugar every day. Went for weeks before eating the

peach and was not craving sugar when I ate it. Plus don't eat one

every day.

>

> > I actually think this diet has been easier for me

> > than a lot of

> > others here from the posts I've read. The hardest

> > for me has been

> > the not feeling full and loss of weight.

>

> I'm guessing this is because you probably have

> something going on with your blood sugar (which is

> made worse by adding in carbs) and you keep that

> problem going and never let your engine fully kick

> over to fat burning mode.

The reason I said it might be easier for me is because I've put

myself on strict diets before and was kind of used to cutting out

lots of foods and restricting my diet in comparison to someone who

may be trying to do this for the first time. Plus I had not been

eating much sugar at all prior to this diet so sugar cravings have

not been a real big issue for me.

>

> > My cheats

> > have arisen from

> > trying to find something I can add that won't cause

> > any reactions and

> > fill me up not to satisfy a craving.

>

> I hope you don't mind me saying, but I think this

> might be what you tell yourself but I'm guessing this

> isn't true.

>

> The fact is that meat and fat are *known* to be more

> satisfying and filling, and carbs are known not to be.

I do feel full eating meat. And I do feel " fuller " now than I did in

the beginning of the diet when I don't have a meat meal, but ...

>

>

> You say to yourself that you must have this carb

> because you are having this empty feeling that only

> carbs can fill.

>

> But I'm telling you that you are having that empty

> feeling because your sugar is running low and you've

> never let it totally get empty and switch over to fat.

Even if I wasn't eating hardly any sugars before going on this diet

and then cutting them out totally? And only adding an occasional

peach after weeks of being on the diet?

>

> If you want to really see if you can turn this around,

> I challenge you to stick to this diet 100% with ZERO

> cheats for two weeks, and then tell me how you feel.

>

> No borderline foods either. No stevia, no high sugar

> veggies, no crackers.. just the very basics.

I can try, but if I get the light-headedness I can't function. Can't

drive or anything. One time while driving into town it got so bad I

had to pull over to the side of the road a few times (and pray a

lot!). It was after that experience that I tried eating just a few

slices of a peach in the morning (mornings would be when I had this

problem).

I can give up the cracker. But if I start losing more weight I

won't. I know, I know - health is more important than weight ...

>

> > But now it's more of a

> > missing it with a

> > couple of different foods (like the eggs) and that

> > it is filling.

>

> I invite you to consider that you have an emotional

> attachment with these foods as well. Just because you

> are not over weight doesn't mean that you might not

> have a problem with foods, both emotionally and

> physically.

I suppose that's possible though don't think so. In this case I

think it's just a matter of this is the way I've always eaten and

enjoyed this food. I've been eating eggs over-easy since I was a babe

by dipping toast in the yolk. That's the only way I like to eat eggs

prepared that way - the only way I can eat them with the " runny " yolk

LOL. Now I make eggs every other possible way but not over-easy cause

I can't dip. If that's considered an emotional attachment, then I

guess it is. To me it's just a matter of taste.

>

> > But my grocery

> > bill is becoming a bit expensive and money is tight.

>

> Yes and this is really important though. It's your

> health that we are talking about. So definitely find

> some where else to cut on your budget.

Sometimes those no budget left to cut ...

Gail

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--- gmgblues <gmgblues@...> wrote:

> Am not having sugar every day. Went for weeks

> before eating the

> peach and was not craving sugar when I ate it. Plus

> don't eat one

> every day.

Hi Gail,

I have this bad habit of saying " sugar " when I'm

referring to foods that are highly starchy, so I'm

sorry I wasn't more clear. When I think about

something like a potato which turns into almost

entirely glucose in the body, I think of it as

" sugar " .

I didn't mean you were actually eating table sugar or

candy or anything. What I mean is that the cracker

and the peach are foods that turn into mostly sugar in

the body.

> I do feel full eating meat. And I do feel " fuller "

> now than I did in

> the beginning of the diet when I don't have a meat

> meal, but ...

Oh good, sounds like you are getting more acclimated

to this. Let me tell you a little about me though and

it might help you to get an idea of where my advice is

coming from. I am highly insulin resistant and have a

family history of diabetes.

I have abused my body for years with bad carbs and am

very sensitive to higher carbs. Because of this, I

can actually tell when my blood sugar is off because I

get this feeling of being hungry. Right now I do not

wake up in the morning hungry.

I eat maybe two hours after I get up and not because

I'm hungry but because it's my schedule to do so. I

rarely ever experience hunger or feeling empty any

more.

But every once in a while I eat something that kind of

throws me off. Like I've eaten carrots before and

will wake up the next morning feeling hungry.

I had nothing but strawberries and immediately felt

this craving and empty feeling in my stomach. This is

because there are certain foods in my body that just

provoke an insulin response in my body.

Once I get too much insulin floating around in my

body, the insulin also sends a hunger signal to my

stomach and I get an empty feeling in my stomach.

The thing is that I have found for me that my body is

super-sensitive to many foods, even a couple allowed

on this diet. My body has issues with butter, most

likely because I am not tolerant of dairy.

I can't drink mint tea, even the organic kind. Black

pepper seems to be an issue as are any dried spices.

My point is that these are foods that don't seem like

they would be an issue, but they are for me.

What might be happening is that you are 100% compliant

to this diet, but that there are certain foods even on

this diet that you might be sensitive to. Or you

might be like me and sensitive to the molds that can

be on dried spices or maybe there is something in your

supplements. Your body might do better on fish and

chicken then beef, or vice versa.

You may be borderline diabetic or hyploglycemic (which

is what it sounds like when you talk about light

headedness) and because of this little tiny things

will affect you and never let you get that real peace

with food.

The best way to figure this out is get down to the

very basics and rotate foods. Try only chicken and

some veggie for a while, then try beef and some veggie

for a while, add things in slowly and see if it helps

with your cravings and full feeling.

Check all your supplements or only add one it at a

time and get rid of any dried spices.

> Even if I wasn't eating hardly any sugars before

> going on this diet

> and then cutting them out totally? And only adding

> an occasional

> peach after weeks of being on the diet?

I can just tell you what happens to me. My advice to

you is based on my own experience and observations and

is not gospel OK? I found it takes me an entire month

to get over one cheat. So if you are having a peach

here and there, and your body is super sensitive, you

might just never have gotten over the initial effects.

I know how long a cheat lasts for me from the last

time I cheated. I broke out with pimples all over my

face a few days later. I got my last pimple before my

face cleared up again a month later. When I stick to

this diet I don't get pimples on my face.

> I can try, but if I get the light-headedness I can't

> function. Can't

> drive or anything. One time while driving into town

> it got so bad I

> had to pull over to the side of the road a few times

> (and pray a

> lot!).

I can totally understand this, and you need to be

functional to handle your life so I can see why you

were making changes. You might want to stop taking

any supplements and/or antifungals for a while

including garlic and coconut oil or anything else and

just stick to the diet 100%.

You might also want to increase veggies like broccoli

or cabbage. The light headedness could be because

your blood sugar is really low, and it might be that

if you hold out for a few days you will get better, as

your body switches to fat burning mode. The best time

to try that experiment is on a weekend.

But the light headedness could also be from die off

and that you are getting too many toxins at once. In

that case there are a lot of other things you can try.

One would be descreasing the die off not by eating

crackers but by increasing water consumption, doing

dry skin brushing and epsom salt baths, saunas and

some of the other recommendations by Bee. Either way

I wouldn't recommend crackers or peaches to resolve

the issue.

> I can give up the cracker. But if I start losing

> more weight I

> won't. I know, I know - health is more important

> than weight ...

I can imagine that it made you feel quite bad that you

weren't able to do your job as well or that your

co-workers made you feel bad about your weight. My

guess is that your co-workers might be jealous, and

that the weakness is from die-off and/or low blood

sugar which will eventually go away when you stick to

this.

Also I do not believe that you would just keep losing

forever if you are eating plenty of calories and

nutrients. Your body would first lower its metabolism

and slow down the process. You got to what was

probably a better weight for you and just aren't used

to it.

Keep in mind that many models are like a size 0. You

probably have a very slender frame and are meant to be

a smaller size. Did you ever have your body fat

percentage tested? That would give you a much better

idea if you were underweight or not rather than a

scale.

> I suppose that's possible though don't think so. In

> this case I

> think it's just a matter of this is the way I've

> always eaten and

> enjoyed this food. I've been eating eggs over-easy

> since I was a babe

> by dipping toast in the yolk. That's the only way I

> like to eat eggs

> prepared that way - the only way I can eat them with

> the " runny " yolk

> LOL. Now I make eggs every other possible way but

> not over-easy cause

> I can't dip. If that's considered an emotional

> attachment, then I

> guess it is. To me it's just a matter of taste.

Well yes it is an emotional attachment, plus it is

taste too if that makes sense. You are kind of used

to eating that way, it is a part of your life. Going

against that would be like giving up a family

tradition.

I understand as I have been through some of that too.

I don't care much for eggs myself so I just don't eat

them.

> Sometimes those no budget left to cut ...

I'm sorry I totally understand.. sometimes there is

just no way to work it out. But if it's possible I

want you to make you a priority where ever possible,

if that makes sense. Also people here can probably

give ideas of how to do this really cheaply.

I got a huge chunk of meat for 7 bucks yesterday that

I made into a pot roast in my crock pot and made into

baby food for my son. Eggs are really cheap, and you

can see if you can buy your meat in bulk.

Maybe you can find a local farmer or farmer's market

to get veggies cheap, or even see if youc an grow some

of your own if you have the space.

Hope this helps some..

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

Today is the most important day.

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>

>

>>

> I have this bad habit of saying " sugar " when I'm

> referring to foods that are highly starchy, so I'm

> sorry I wasn't more clear. When I think about

> something like a potato which turns into almost

> entirely glucose in the body, I think of it as

> " sugar " .

OK, that makes sense. Sometimes you have to " pound " things into

me .

>

> I eat maybe two hours after I get up and not because

> I'm hungry but because it's my schedule to do so. I

> rarely ever experience hunger or feeling empty any

> more.

I've found if I don't eat soon after arising (hungry or not) I might

start getting the lightheadedness.

> You may be borderline diabetic or hyploglycemic (which

> is what it sounds like when you talk about light

> headedness) and because of this little tiny things

> will affect you and never let you get that real peace

> with food.

>

> The best way to figure this out is get down to the

> very basics and rotate foods. Try only chicken and

> some veggie for a while, then try beef and some veggie

> for a while, add things in slowly and see if it helps

> with your cravings and full feeling.

>

> Check all your supplements or only add one it at a

> time and get rid of any dried spices.

> >

>

> I can totally understand this, and you need to be

> functional to handle your life so I can see why you

> were making changes. You might want to stop taking

> any supplements and/or antifungals for a while

> including garlic and coconut oil or anything else and

> just stick to the diet 100%.

> But the light headedness could also be from die off

> and that you are getting too many toxins at once. In

> that case there are a lot of other things you can try.

I can try some of this, though I may wait a few weeks until after my

grandson's wedding so I can focus just on my eating and not worry

about any symptoms I may or may not have. I don't think I can stop

any of my supplements. Most of them I've been taking for years. I

did cut back on the coconut oil because I was having so much die-off

before. And maybe that was part of why I was having so much

lightheadedness. I was just at the point of trying to increase the

coconut oil again but maybe I'll wait on that a little bit too.

> I can imagine that it made you feel quite bad that you

> weren't able to do your job as well or that your

> co-workers made you feel bad about your weight. My

> guess is that your co-workers might be jealous, and

> that the weakness is from die-off and/or low blood

> sugar which will eventually go away when you stick to

> this.

>You got to what was probably a better weight for you and just aren't

used to it.

>

> Keep in mind that many models are like a size 0. You

> probably have a very slender frame and are meant to be

> a smaller size. Did you ever have your body fat

> percentage tested? That would give you a much better

> idea if you were underweight or not rather than a

> scale.

Don't have any co-workers or regular job. I am not small boned even

though I am only 5'3 " . I haven't had my body fat tested. Isn't

there something in the files that tells us how to do that? Can't

remember cause there is just soooooo much. I now fluctuate between

113-115. I don't mind being at this weight, but I can't afford to

lose more -- both physically and monetarily. I hit the 2nd-hand

stores just to find a few items of clothing that fit.

>

>

> I'm sorry I totally understand.. sometimes there is

> just no way to work it out. But if it's possible I

> want you to make you a priority where ever possible,

> if that makes sense. Also people here can probably

> give ideas of how to do this really cheaply.

>

> I got a huge chunk of meat for 7 bucks yesterday that

> I made into a pot roast in my crock pot and made into

> baby food for my son. Eggs are really cheap, and you

> can see if you can buy your meat in bulk.

>

> Maybe you can find a local farmer or farmer's market

> to get veggies cheap, or even see if youc an grow some

> of your own if you have the space.

I do get fresh veggies at the farmer's market though some are out of

season already and have to get them at the store. Actually they cost

more at the market than the store, but at least I know they're fresh

and we have some organic growers so I usually buy there stuff. I get

fresh eggs from a farmer in my area. I'm checking around to see if

anyone around here sells fresh beef. I'd love to be able to eat that

than the store bought stuff where you have no idea what is in it.

Though I do look for labeling that says there are no added hormones,

artificial ingredients, antibiotics, etc. I've even checked online

for fresh, organic meat and might go that route if I can't find

anyone local.

Me, growing veggies, is a disaster - LOL - have tried it. I do have

a couple of tomato plants but haven't gotten many off of them.

> Hope this helps some..

>

Yes, helps a lot. Thank you!

Gail

[Guest guest]

--- Mehner <valiegal50@...> wrote:

> feel that the reason I was weak in lifting my

> patient was that she was alot heavier than me. Here

> I was 120 lbs, she was 130 something and dead

> weight.

What I wrote about this to Gail was meant for you.

You are probably meant to be this size, don't worry

about it.

> I'm sure that it was just a

> matter of her being so much more heavier than me.

> The girls I worked with noticed that I had a problem

> transferring. At the change of shifts they would all

> comment that I was dwindling

> down to nothing and getting too thin. I really

> tried to explain why and that I felt wonderful.

I bet they were jealous. One thing that often happens

when you change is that people start behaving

differently towards you.

> It

> was a difficult situation. Now I can handle the lady

> since I've gained some weight back. But my energy

> levels have taken a dive. I'm just not feeling as

> peppy and good as I was on the diet. I have to fight

> to keep from getting drowsy on the job. I come home

> and fall asleep at my computer.

Here's what I think you need to do to get back on

track. Start lifting weights now for a short time

while you still have strength, and then start back on

the diet slowly.

I have found that what helps me function most is doing

core strength training on my abs and back muscles

which help me with everything else.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

Today is the most important day.

[Guest guest]

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>

> You might want to do this gradually too. But if your

> supplements have yeast or sugar or other bad

> ingredients that might be something to look at.

>

> Also you are going to get the best results taking the

> supplements Bee recommends as opposed to what ever you

> have been taking all this time.

>

Well, interestingly enough, all the supplements I had been taking

were all ones recommended by Bee. I think the only one I've been

taking not on the list is Hawthorn which is supposed to be good for

your heart and with the history of heart disease in my fam it's one

I've been continuing. I have checked that none have sugar, yeast or

other bad stuff in them. There were a few recommended that I hadn't

been taking that I've now added.

>

> I'm not sure what to tell you about the clothes. Have

> you tried freecycle? Can you sew your clothes smaller

> at all? Have you tried craiglist to see if perhaps

> someoneis giving some clothes your size away?

Thanks for reminding me. I haven't checked freecycle for awhile. I

never heard of craiglist.

Thanks.

Gail

[Guest guest]

--- Mehner <valiegal50@...> wrote:

> some time in the kitchen. Right now it seems that I

> only have acsess to a microwave to heat food at

> work.

Hi there.. we have a toaster oven at work which I used

to use but I don't need to any more. I cook all my

food for the day first thing in the morning, eat my

first meal warm and then the rest of the meals at room

temperature.

I'm often in a rush to get things done and re-heating

is a pain and I'm used to eating it that temp now.

> That is something I would never do for a year

> or more. Now I have no choice. I'm now cooking up

> some egg salad for work tomorrow a 12 hour shift.

Good idea.. hard boiled eggs travel well. Care to

share your egg salad recipe?

> problem. I am such a carb addict. One little cheat

> always sets me off. Then it seems you have every

> excuse in the world for not getting back on track.

Yes I've been there myself. Having a time set up each

morning where I prepare myself for the day by making

sure my food is taken care of makes the whole day go

smoothly.

It helps me stay on track. I can easily go off track

if put in a situation where I don't have appropriate

fooda avaiable. And one cheat will spiral me out of

control and yes it is hard to get back on track.

> You definately understand that Debby. I agree with

> what you wrote about that being such a big problem

> with many of us here. I know that I will do it

> though. I have to find the time soon.

Yes, I understand because I am a food addict. You

can start off by buying a max pack of chicken thighs

and throw them in the oven. Or buy a pot roast and

stick it in your crockpot.

Cooking this way takes very little babysitting so you

can get other stuff done. I wake up first thing in

the morning and the first thing I do is load up my

steamer with veggies.

Then I stir fry my meat which takes about five

minutes. Hard boiling some eggs takes no time at all.

Fill your crockpot with food the night before or wake

up earlier in the morning.

I don't know what your schedule is like but if you

want me to take a look I might be able to give you

some ideas on how to rearrange things so you have the

time.

I know your budget is tight but if I could recommend

one piece of equipment to you it would be the Oster

food steamer.

It's only $30 (sold at Target) and I use it daily and

it's so versatile. I also steam eggs to be hard

boiled and you can do many at once with no cracking.

But if you have a crockpot you are really set. I

think my crockpot was $20 at walmart for a real basic

one.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

Today is the most important day.

[Guest guest]

--- gmgblues <gmgblues@...> wrote:

> Well, interestingly enough, all the supplements I

> had been taking

> were all ones recommended by Bee.

Excellent, so sounds like nothing to do there.

> Thanks for reminding me. I haven't checked

> freecycle for awhile. I

> never heard of craiglist.

It's just craigslist.com in your browser. It's a free

bulletin board where people post local stuff. Job

listings, free section, for sale, etc. You might just

post and say you are looking for clothes of a small

size, and willing to exchange for a larger size. The

people who have gained weight and can't fit the

smaller sizes might appreciate that.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

Today is the most important day.