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Thanks for all the input. I want to clarify though, that what I have is a

BACTERIAL infection, not a yeast infection. I am still wondering how eating

healthy bacteria can help the vaginal flora (I believe it probably does, I just

don't understand how or why).

mogarry <mogarry@...> wrote:

Hi

I used to have problems with yeast infections, but since I started

drinking kefir regularly have not had a problem. I even challenged

myself by a course of antibiotics, which used to spell immediate

infection, but didn't get one! I'm sold on kefir as a preventive measure.

Maureeen

I have questions about whether consuming fermented foods and good

bacteria

can help vaginal infections. I get recurring bacterial vaginosis. I

have

noticed an improvement since I began drinking raw apple cider vinegar

and

drinking kefir. I told my doctor this a couple days ago and he said

that he

didn't see how consuming these could help. He said he has heard of

inserting yogurt in the vagina helping. Then he showed me I still had

an

infection.

Does anyone know about this? Is there a connection to increasing the

healthy bacteria in the gut and in the vagina? Does anyone have any

recommendations? I have not used metronidazole in over 6 months and I

will

not start again, but I want to get rid of this. Thanks,

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> I am still wondering how eating healthy bacteria can help the vaginal flora

> (I believe it probably does, I just don't understand how or why).

>

I think it is because when the bowel flora is normalized the general state of

health of the body is improved and the immune system doesn't have to work as

hard which allows the body to more effectively deal with infections.

Here is a couple of things that I googled:

" Bacterial vaginosis is not caused by a particular organism but is a change in

the balance of normal vaginal bacteria. Ninety percent of the bacteria found in

a healthy vagina belong to the Lactobacillus family. For unknown reasons, there

is a shift in the bacterial population that results in overgrowth of other

bacteria. Patients suffering from bacterial vaginosis have very high numbers of

bacteria such as Gardnerella vaginalis, Mycoplasmahominis, Bacteroides species,

and Mobiluncus species. These bacteria can be found at numbers 100 to 1000 times

greater than found in the healthy vagina. In contrast, Lactobacillus bacteria

are in very low numbers or completely absent from the vagina of women with

bacterial vaginosis. "

http://www.chclibrary.org/micromed/00070690.html

" Bacterial vaginosis is the condition associated with both the reduction of the

lactobacillus (predominant friendly bacteria) in the vaginal vault with an

overgrowth of both Gardinella vaginalis and anaerobic bacteria. <snip> If you

find that in spite of reducing the conditions that promote bacterial and yeast

vaginal growth that you are still plagued by minor infections using an

occasional douche of 3% food grade hydrogen peroxide (that provides extra oxygen

to the vagina) on several nights per week, will tend to reduce the offending

organisms. Reducing the offending organisms and repopulating the vagina with the

correct form of lactobacillus is the way to go. Both Boric acid and vaginal

lactobacillus are currently available in vaginal capsules. In my own practice I

have found this to be both a very effective and inexpensive way to cure a very

annoying chronic problem seen all too frequently in many women. "

http://www.holisticgyn.com/vaginal.html

Bruce

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just a little info , in anceint times moldey old bread was used for

infected wounds to heal them, penicillian was found by accident in a Lab.

when a mold growing on a test plate had killed other type of bacteria

what did they have in common ....they were basicilly the same thing in a

way.... as my Uncle who was a Doctor once said to me ... one germ have kill

another lol ...

Just a thought. Maybe everything to heal us is right in front of us lol but

don't see it. Correct me if I am wrong isn't bacterial and yeast similar I

love to ask questions and get answers. regards Robyn

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>Subject: Re: vaginal yeast infections

>Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:14:51 -0700 (PDT)

>

>Thanks for all the input. I want to clarify though, that what I have is a

>BACTERIAL infection, not a yeast infection. I am still wondering how

>eating healthy bacteria can help the vaginal flora (I believe it probably

>does, I just don't understand how or why).

>

>mogarry <mogarry@...> wrote:

>

>

>Hi

>

>I used to have problems with yeast infections, but since I started

>drinking kefir regularly have not had a problem. I even challenged

>myself by a course of antibiotics, which used to spell immediate

>infection, but didn't get one! I'm sold on kefir as a preventive measure.

>

>Maureeen

>

> I have questions about whether consuming fermented foods and good

>bacteria

>can help vaginal infections. I get recurring bacterial vaginosis. I

>have

>noticed an improvement since I began drinking raw apple cider vinegar

>and

>drinking kefir. I told my doctor this a couple days ago and he said

>that he

>didn't see how consuming these could help. He said he has heard of

>inserting yogurt in the vagina helping. Then he showed me I still had

>an

>infection.

>

> Does anyone know about this? Is there a connection to increasing the

>healthy bacteria in the gut and in the vagina? Does anyone have any

>recommendations? I have not used metronidazole in over 6 months and I

>will

>not start again, but I want to get rid of this. Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

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>

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Hey Bee and others,

Cannot say I am happy to be back, he he ,but ever since last summer I

have had one vaginal yeast infection after another, after being healed

for 10 years!!! The only thing I changed in my diet was one Lara Bar a

day, which is a natural dried fruit and nut bar, I love them and that

was the only sugar I really got. Also, my now exhusband was

unfaithful and that is when the yeast infections started.

I have not been able to get rid of the stubborn thing and am

miserable. Last night I put a Fungal Defense pill up my crotch, in

hopes it would cure it, have also been making a paste of kefir and

Primal Defense powder and putting it up there, still nothing. Anyone

have any other ideas?? Juli

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>

> Hey Bee and others,

>

> Cannot say I am happy to be back, he he ,but ever since last summer I

> have had one vaginal yeast infection after another, after being healed

> for 10 years!!! The only thing I changed in my diet was one Lara Bar a

> day, which is a natural dried fruit and nut bar, I love them and that

> was the only sugar I really got. Also, my now exhusband was

> unfaithful and that is when the yeast infections started.

==>Hi Juli. Welcome back. Stress can lower your immune system which in

turn could bring about candida overgrowth again.

>

> I have not been able to get rid of the stubborn thing and am

> miserable. Last night I put a Fungal Defense pill up my crotch, in

> hopes it would cure it, have also been making a paste of kefir and

> Primal Defense powder and putting it up there, still nothing. Anyone

> have any other ideas??

==>As you know when you have vaginal candida you can do direct

treatments but the only way to get it under control again is to do the

entire program. It won't take as long as last time of course but it is

obvious your immune system needs building up, and that you'll need to

take go on the diet, and take supplements, antifungals and probiotics

again. Direct treatments are only bandaids because you need to treat

the body as a whole and treat the cause, i.e. lowered immune system

which allowed candida to take over. Also see the Vaginal Yeast

Treatments article on my new website:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/women6.php

The best to you, Bee

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Hi Juli,

I would also suggest, on top of Bee's suggestions, that you visit a

homeopath. If an emotional response brought this on, homeopathy can do

wonders to help out. Though everything is all inter-related (physical,

emotional, spiritual, energetic), it sounds like you've had a huge energy

shift.

Marla

On 3/11/07, rank35 <rank35@...> wrote:

>

> Hey Bee and others,

>

> Cannot say I am happy to be back, he he ,but ever since last summer I

> have had one vaginal yeast infection after another, after being healed

> for 10 years!!! The only thing I changed in my diet was one Lara Bar a

> day, which is a natural dried fruit and nut bar, I love them and that

> was the only sugar I really got. Also, my now exhusband was

> unfaithful and that is when the yeast infections started.

>

> I have not been able to get rid of the stubborn thing and am

> miserable. Last night I put a Fungal Defense pill up my crotch, in

> hopes it would cure it, have also been making a paste of kefir and

> Primal Defense powder and putting it up there, still nothing. Anyone

> have any other ideas?? Juli

>

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Thanks Marla

--- Marla <busykitchen@...> wrote:

> Hi Juli,

>

> I would also suggest, on top of Bee's suggestions,

> that you visit a

> homeopath. If an emotional response brought this

> on, homeopathy can do

> wonders to help out. Though everything is all

> inter-related (physical,

> emotional, spiritual, energetic), it sounds like

> you've had a huge energy

> shift.

>

> Marla

>

>

> On 3/11/07, rank35 <rank35@...> wrote:

> >

> > Hey Bee and others,

> >

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> Hi Juli,

>

> I would also suggest, on top of Bee's suggestions, that you visit a

> homeopath. If an emotional response brought this on, homeopathy can

do wonders to help out. Though everything is all inter-related

(physical, emotional, spiritual, energetic), it sounds like you've had

a huge energy shift.

>

==>Marla, that is an excellent idea.

Bee

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My daughter has been taking grapefruit seed extract for about a year now, and I

don't believe she has had a yeast infection during this time. Here is a link

containing information from others who have had luck with it:

http://www.steadyhealth.com/Grapefruit_Seed_Extract_for_yeast_infection__t75214.\

html

dartyrose <dartyrose@...> wrote: HELP! I have had chronic yeast infections

for about 10 years. Full

workups done for everything under the sun. No success. sometimes get

them every month sometimes go for a few w/o them. otc DOES NOT work.

any ideas? Been looking on line at " cure yeast infections forever "

stuff. anyone tried them? All help appreciated. Thanks

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I recommended boric acid as a douche or boric acid suppositories to a friend

after reading about it online for vaginal yest infection and she reported back

to me it worked extremely well.  I forget the amounts to be used; possibly you

could google it to find  the concentration to be used or probably the directions

on the bottle.  It can be purchased as a powder I know at most drug stores. 

Hope this helps.  

 

 

- On Fri, 6/20/08, dartyrose <dartyrose@...> wrote:

From: dartyrose <dartyrose@...>

Subject: vaginal yeast infections

candidiasis

Date: Friday, June 20, 2008, 12:11 PM

HELP! I have had chronic yeast infections for about 10 years. Full

workups done for everything under the sun. No success. sometimes get

them every month sometimes go for a few w/o them. otc DOES NOT work.

any ideas? Been looking on line at " cure yeast infections forever "

stuff. anyone tried them? All help appreciated. Thanks

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For Boric Acid, you want to fill a 00 capsule and insert 2X per day even during

menstration and you need to keep at it for 4 months.

The protocal you want to follow is the same as you use for Yeast Arrest, but

using powdered Boric Acid instead since it's MUCH cheaper:

Suggested Use:

Acute Yeast Vaginitis (Candida)

Mild cases: Insert 1 suppository once per day for 3 to 7 days.

Resistant cases: Insert 1 suppository twice per day for 10 to 14 days. Use a

panti-liner or pad as suppository capsule will melt and leak over 12-24 hours.

We recommend you take an oral probiotic during treatment and/or follow with a

few days of Candaclear probiotic suppositories to replenish the good bacteria.

Note: Although Yeast Arrest does kill off some of the good bateria, it does so

more sparingly than antibiotics, plus the Calendula has anti-inflammatory &

immune enhancing effects.

Chronic Yeast Vaginitis (Candida)

Insert 1 suppository twice per day for 2 weeks. If a response occurs but not a

complete resolution, repeat for an additional two weeks (1 capsule 2 times per

day). Then, 1 capsule per day for four days each month, during menstruation (or

the last days of menses), for four months. Use a panti-liner or pad as

suppository capsule will melt and leak over 12-24 hours. Safe during pregnancy

and lactation. We recommend you take an oral probiotic during treatment and/or

follow with a few days of Candaclear probiotic suppositories to replenish the

good bacteria.

Bacterial Vaginonis (BV)

See our complete BV protocol here on this page.

Prevention of recurrence

Insert 1 suppository once per day at bedtime during menstruation for four

months. Depending on severity of symptoms, you may use as little as 1

suppository per month during the last day of your period, or one per day for 5

days during your period (or when symptoms tend to flare up).

Normal side effects: While using Yeast Arrest suppositories, some women

experience a large amount and/or different kind of discharge within the first

few days. This is normal and can be attributed to the yeast and bad bacteria

dying off and being released out of your body. Within days, symptoms will

subside. Be sure to be taking your oral HLC Probiotics alongside with vaginal

treatment to ensure the body can re-colonize the good bacteria.

This is th

Read the Rockwell BV Protocol here with all supplement suggestions.

Read Customer questions and answers about Bacterial Vaginosis and Candida in our

FAQ.

* Yeast Arrest suppositories included boric acid, Berberis aquifolium (Oregon

Grape) and Calendula officinalis (Calendula).

* Boric acid has been used for many years as an antifungal agent and it

acidifies the vagina.

* Calendula is known in Naturopathic Medicine for its effect on mucosal

inflammation and the mucous membrane immune system.

* Berberis has been shown to exhibit antimicrobial activity against a variety

of fungi.

Click here to read Q & As on use of this product for Candida & BV

Re: vaginal yeast infections

I recommended boric acid as a douche or boric acid suppositories to a friend

after reading about it online for vaginal yest infection and she reported back

to me it worked extremely well.  I forget the amounts to be used; possibly you

could google it to find  the concentration to be used or probably the directions

on the bottle.  It can be purchased as a powder I know at most drug stores. 

Hope this helps.  

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When my iron is low I get cronic yeast. When my iron comes up my

yeast goes away. I use boric acid to keep it under control while my

iron is low.

>

> For Boric Acid, you want to fill a 00 capsule and insert 2X per day

even during menstration and you need to keep at it for 4 months.

> The protocal you want to follow is the same as you use for Yeast

Arrest, but using powdered Boric Acid instead since it's MUCH cheaper:

> Suggested Use:

> Acute Yeast Vaginitis (Candida)

> Mild cases: Insert 1 suppository once per day for 3 to 7 days.

> Resistant cases: Insert 1 suppository twice per day for 10 to 14

days. Use a panti-liner or pad as suppository capsule will melt and

leak over 12-24 hours. We recommend you take an oral probiotic during

treatment and/or follow with a few days of Candaclear probiotic

suppositories to replenish the good bacteria.

> Note: Although Yeast Arrest does kill off some of the good bateria,

it does so more sparingly than antibiotics, plus the Calendula has

anti-inflammatory & immune enhancing effects.

>

> Chronic Yeast Vaginitis (Candida)

> Insert 1 suppository twice per day for 2 weeks. If a response

occurs but not a complete resolution, repeat for an additional two

weeks (1 capsule 2 times per day). Then, 1 capsule per day for four

days each month, during menstruation (or the last days of menses),

for four months. Use a panti-liner or pad as suppository capsule will

melt and leak over 12-24 hours. Safe during pregnancy and lactation.

We recommend you take an oral probiotic during treatment and/or

follow with a few days of Candaclear probiotic suppositories to

replenish the good bacteria.

> Bacterial Vaginonis (BV)

> See our complete BV protocol here on this page.

>

> Prevention of recurrence

> Insert 1 suppository once per day at bedtime during menstruation

for four months. Depending on severity of symptoms, you may use as

little as 1 suppository per month during the last day of your period,

or one per day for 5 days during your period (or when symptoms tend

to flare up).

> Normal side effects: While using Yeast Arrest suppositories, some

women experience a large amount and/or different kind of discharge

within the first few days. This is normal and can be attributed to

the yeast and bad bacteria dying off and being released out of your

body. Within days, symptoms will subside. Be sure to be taking your

oral HLC Probiotics alongside with vaginal treatment to ensure the

body can re-colonize the good bacteria.

> This is th

> Read the Rockwell BV Protocol here with all supplement suggestions.

> Read Customer questions and answers about Bacterial Vaginosis and

Candida in our FAQ.

> * Yeast Arrest suppositories included boric acid, Berberis

aquifolium (Oregon Grape) and Calendula officinalis (Calendula).

> * Boric acid has been used for many years as an antifungal

agent and it acidifies the vagina.

> * Calendula is known in Naturopathic Medicine for its effect

on mucosal inflammation and the mucous membrane immune system.

> * Berberis has been shown to exhibit antimicrobial activity

against a variety of fungi.

> Click here to read Q & As on use of this product for Candida & BV

>

>

>

> Re: vaginal yeast infections

>

>

> I recommended boric acid as a douche or boric acid suppositories to

a friend after reading about it online for vaginal yest infection and

she reported back to me it worked extremely well.  I forget the

amounts to be used; possibly you could google it to find  the

concentration to be used or probably the directions on the bottle. 

It can be purchased as a powder I know at most drug stores.  Hope

this helps.  

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