Re: vacations and travelling - shirley, ireland, wow!

[Guest guest]

hi shirley

wow, ireland... that's exciting! i hope you can enjoy the anticipation

of a long awaited vacation, try not to worry or stress about it too

much. will you have lots of time to relax while you're there?

i know you'll be able to find good stuff to eat, so that's not a

worry. maybe no virgin coconut oil with each meal but yes, the irish

butter is lovely, at least the ones i've tried while here in belgium.

you'll have good breakfast choices - similar to the standard 'english

breakfast' which is a combination of meat (usually ham or sausage),

eggs, beans (which you can just skip) and tomatoes. perfect way to

start the day! lunch and dinner will be just like eating out at home,

look for the best choices or alter as you need.

you probably already know this stuff, but i just wanted to remind you

that you can have a great trip, even when you're struggling with

candida issues. it might do the body good (emotionally & mentally) to

let go a little and have a good time.

and come on girl, you GOTTA have a guinness, i mean, it's ireland! i

like bee's advice - just stock up on protein, fat and extra vitamins

and ENJOY!!

although i have my candida pretty well under control these days, i

still take good care to eat well and minimize " unfriendly foods "

whenever possible.

well, our time in europe is almost up. i'm going to be on the road for

the same few weeks you are (and beyond), travelling through europe

with my husband and my parents, visiting some relatives in germany,

meeting up with hubby's dad & his wife in tuscany, and then winding up

back in venice for my husband's graduation weekend. after that we will

be getting on a plane and flying to new york city, staying in our

friends' livingroom while we look for an apt and jobs for us both.

its easy to get a little worked up, stressed, and worried about it all

(i do like having control of my food choices, knowing where i will be

living, and how i will make a living), but i'm resolved to relax,

enjoy my time with family and friends, and have an adventure! not like

i'll be eating cakes and pasta the whole time (i'd be a full blown

yeast monster in a week's time!), but i know i'll be a little more lax

than usual, and will get back into my normal routine when we settle

down again, even though it will be more than a month of being away

from a " home base " .

we make the best out of each day, right?

i hope you have a great trip, shirley!! bon voyage!

~ suz

I am going to Ireland for

> three weeks on the 16th and I soooooo thought that I would be

feeling much

> better than I am. I am worried about eating over there (I hear they

have

> great butter) and naturally I want to have a Guinness in Dublin! I

don't

> want this to ruin my vacation that I have been saving and planning

for, for

> over a year now. THIS SUCKS!!!!!!

>

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>From: " chefsuz2 " <thenaturalkitchen@...>

>wow, ireland... that's exciting! i hope you can enjoy the anticipation

>of a long awaited vacation, try not to worry or stress about it too

>much. will you have lots of time to relax while you're there?

Hi Suz, primarily I'm going over for a golf tournament (the ryder cup) so

the first week will be spent on the course, I volunteered to be a marshal

which entails crowd control or any number of helping out positions. I am

then touring for the remaining 2 weeks. I have been to Ireland once before

but this time I will be driving which concerns me a little. Have you ever

been there?

>i know you'll be able to find good stuff to eat, so that's not a

>worry. maybe no virgin coconut oil with each meal but yes, the irish

>butter is lovely, at least the ones i've tried while here in belgium.

I am taking my coconut oil with me in my packed luggage, hopefully there

will not be a problem if my bags gets opened/checked (any airline employees

out there?). I was just wondering....packed luggage gets x-rayed now, will

that destroy all the good enzymes? My you do alot of travelling yourself,

I'm envious, how is Belgium?

>you'll have good breakfast choices - similar to the standard 'english

>breakfast' which is a combination of meat (usually ham or sausage),

>eggs, beans (which you can just skip) and tomatoes. perfect way to

>start the day! lunch and dinner will be just like eating out at home,

>look for the best choices or alter as you need.

Thanks, I figure if I just stick with the meat and eggs I should be ok.

Unfortunately the potatoes are extremely tasty over there, that is going to

be a tough one.

>you probably already know this stuff, but i just wanted to remind you

>that you can have a great trip, even when you're struggling with

>candida issues. it might do the body good (emotionally & mentally) to

>let go a little and have a good time.

That is the way I'm looking at it. I have had an extremely grueling schedule

for the past year with school and work plus the whole yeast thing so I am

just looking forward to a break from everything.

>and come on girl, you GOTTA have a guinness, i mean, it's ireland! i

>like bee's advice - just stock up on protein, fat and extra vitamins

>and ENJOY!!

;+) that was not what I was expecting to hear from Bee and I loved it!

>although i have my candida pretty well under control these days, i

>still take good care to eat well and minimize " unfriendly foods "

>whenever possible.

Does this mean you haven't indulged in any chocolate in Belgium?

>well, our time in europe is almost up. i'm going to be on the road for

>the same few weeks you are (and beyond), travelling through europe

>with my husband and my parents, visiting some relatives in germany,

>meeting up with hubby's dad & his wife in tuscany, and then winding up

>back in venice for my husband's graduation weekend. after that we will

>be getting on a plane and flying to new york city, staying in our

>friends' livingroom while we look for an apt and jobs for us both.

I love Europe! I envy you so much, do you travel for you and your husbands

jobs or just for the adventure? What is your husband graduating from in

Venice? There is no way I would survive on this diet in Italy, it just

wouldn't happen.

>i hope you have a great trip, shirley!! bon voyage!

Thank-you so much, you as well.

Shirley

[Guest guest]

Hi there..

I hate to be a downer on this topic, really I do. But

I had an experience with this a while back that I'd

like to share.

About 7 years ago I was doing low carb and got a

chance to go to London on vacation. I decided to go

off of my diet for vacation.

Bad idea. I was bloated and sick the whole trip, none

of my clothes fit because my belly was bulging so

much, and I wasn't really able to enjoy the trip with

the way I felt.

The food really isn't worth it, trust me. So recently

a friend of mine was considering cheating while she

went on her cruise.

I advised her not to and told her of my experience.

She decided to cheat anyway, and boy did she regret

it. She was ill and bloated most of the trip and was

not able to enjoy anything at all.

She came back home with a lot of weight gain and it

took her a good amount of time to get back on track

and detox again.

So enjoy the sights, enjoy the sounds, etc. but if you

enjoy the food you probably wont' be able to enjoy

anything else. Your body will revolt with this stuff.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- Shirley G <chickwbrains@...> wrote:

> >and come on girl, you GOTTA have a guinness, i

> mean, it's ireland! i

> >like bee's advice - just stock up on protein, fat

> and extra vitamins

> >and ENJOY!!

>

> ;+) that was not what I was expecting to hear from

> Bee and I loved it!

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I agree with Debby 100%. I went on my trip out west in July and followed it

perfectly all the way there, but when I got there and was running all over with

family and friends I started to cheat. No way around it with this busy

trip--barbeques, beaches, picnics, etc. I've been having a rough time since,

trying to get back on it. I'm not doing very well at all. I've been so

discouraged. And the thing that got me down even more was when I came here and

expressed myself and my cheats I was ignored and did not get any support(not one

person gave me an encouraging word).So I decided to just leave for a while and

go on eating any way through the summer with family coming here and

grandchildren staying with me. I know all along that I was doing myself more

harm and have to start all over. It would have been better to starve myself than

cheat the way I have. Life has gotten so busy that I can't even find time to go

out in my garden and pick the fresh veggies and get into

fermenting again. I have 5 large cabbages out there waiting to be picked, but

too busy to get there and do it all. I have to just cut down on everything and

stay home again and cook and stay away from temptation. My willpower is so bad.

Wish me luck! And luck to Shirley on your trip. Just don't cheat. Val

(Sorry about not cutting the post down, I can't delete portions of this post.

The whole thing will delete,but not portions. My computer is acting up!)

Hi there..

I hate to be a downer on this topic, really I do. But

I had an experience with this a while back that I'd

like to share.

About 7 years ago I was doing low carb and got a

chance to go to London on vacation. I decided to go

off of my diet for vacation.

Bad idea. I was bloated and sick the whole trip, none

of my clothes fit because my belly was bulging so

much, and I wasn't really able to enjoy the trip with

the way I felt.

The food really isn't worth it, trust me. So recently

a friend of mine was considering cheating while she

went on her cruise.

I advised her not to and told her of my experience.

She decided to cheat anyway, and boy did she regret

it. She was ill and bloated most of the trip and was

not able to enjoy anything at all.

She came back home with a lot of weight gain and it

took her a good amount of time to get back on track

and detox again.

So enjoy the sights, enjoy the sounds, etc. but if you

enjoy the food you probably wont' be able to enjoy

anything else. Your body will revolt with this stuff.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- Shirley G <chickwbrains@...> wrote:

> >and come on girl, you GOTTA have a guinness, i

> mean, it's ireland! i

> >like bee's advice - just stock up on protein, fat

> and extra vitamins

> >and ENJOY!!

>

> ;+) that was not what I was expecting to hear from

> Bee and I loved it!

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

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Val,

Sorry to hear about your experience. I know from

experience how hard it can be to get back on track

once you walk down that path.

You figure you already screwed up, just continue on

down that path. I don't allow myself to think that

way any more.

If I screw up I scramble back on the wagon as quickly

as possible, forgive myself and let it go. I think of

the situation sort of like a beach next to rough

waters, to use a metaphor.

If you are on the shore you are nice and dry and safe.

Everything is peaceful and you really don't think

about the water because you are great where you are.

Then something tempts you to go into the water. You

stick one toe in and you are starting to get wet. The

wet sand makes you sink further and the waves pull you

in.

You take a couple more steps and you are up to your

neck and the tide is coming in and the water is

swirling all around you.

Next step you are in above your head and swimming

frantically to get out. You must use a lot of energy

and thought power just to swim your way out of the

water.

This is the same thing with food. You eat a few

bites, and you figure why not eat a few more. Have

that last binge before you get back to how you should

be eating.

But then you keep saying next meal, and you are

fighting cravings and you are feeling ill and you are

feeling disappointed with yourself and your choices

and hopeless and it makes it all the worse.

So for starters, don't take even one bite off plan,

like you shouldn't stick a toe into rough waters

especially when you are nice and safe and dry.

If you screw up and do eat something off plan, get

back to your plan right away. Stop yourself sooner

rather than later. Don't allow yourself to bargain to

the next meal.

Tell yourself this is only going to get harder and

harder and stalling the inevitable won't make it any

easier.. it will just take longer to get to your goal.

Don't waste time beating yourself up. We are all

humans, it is in our nature to gravitate towards

pleasure (for food in this case) and there is nothing

wrong with you for doing so.

But we have to let our rational logical brains take

over in this case and over ride our emotional drives.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- Mehner <valiegal50@...> wrote:

> I agree with Debby 100%. I went on my trip out west

> in July and followed it perfectly all the way there,

> but when I got there and was running all over with

> family and friends I started to cheat. No way around

> it with this busy trip--barbeques, beaches, picnics,

> etc. I've been having a rough time since, trying to

> get back on it. I'm not doing very well at all. I've

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[Guest guest]

Debby, you said it exactly like it is. I loved your analogy of the water and

food cravings. I've been fighting the temptations and doing just that, putting

off till I get my fill of everything. Then getting so discussted with myself for

doing this. Its almost as if I don't care enough about myself to try. I'm just

sinking lower and lower. I put on between 12 and 15 lbs in less than two months.

But I will get back to it. Soon I have to get my teeth worked on and I'm worried

about all of the silver fillings in my mouth. I'm having a difficult time

finding a new dentist who will use a dental dam in my small town. I have 5

chipped teeth and will have 80% coverage with my insurance policy for just a few

more months. I'm very concerned about having all those fillings replaced with

white ones. All the drilling will set me back. I probably would be fine if I

stuck with the diet and had a strong immune system. Thank you for your

encouraging words. I knew I could count on you for

a boost. Val

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> Hi Suz,

I have been to Ireland once before

Have you ever

> been there?

~~~~~nope, but my husband has numerous times. he knows my candida

diet very well and says you'll have no problem finding good food. as

always, it might take a bit of planning, or special requests from a

menu choice, but it can be done.

> I am taking my coconut oil with me in my packed luggage, hopefully

there

> will not be a problem if my bags gets opened/checked (any airline

employees

> out there?). I was just wondering....packed luggage gets x-rayed

now, will

> that destroy all the good enzymes?

~~~~~i take it in the carry on bag - wrapped well. i like to keep an

eye on it, and not take the chance of it leaking into the suitcase.

try calling the airline ahead of time and asking what you can do to

avoid it being x-rayed. with the heightened alerts now in heathrow,

nyc, etc... they may be super strict these days.

~~~~~~carrying it with you: you could take it out of your bag before

going through security and have it ready to show the agent when

you're ready to go through the metal detectors, ask if they will let

you come through and if they will hand the oil to you to avoid it

being x-rayed in your carry-on bag. if not, and it has to go through

the machine, the x-ray will probably destroy some good enzymes, but

the oil will still be good for you.

My you do alot of travelling yourself,

> I'm envious, how is Belgium?

~~~~~ nice people. flemish, english, german or french language

depending on where you are & who's talking. we live in a very old

town, so there's interesting architecture & history. miles and miles

of gorgeous woods very close to our house, so i enjoy my time out of

doors.

> I figure if I just stick with the meat and eggs I should be ok.

> Unfortunately the potatoes are extremely tasty over there, that is

going to

> be a tough one.

~~~~~ just say no to potatoes! in my experience, even when i'm not

having candida issues, they're just not worth it.

> >you probably already know this stuff, but i just wanted to remind

you

> >that you can have a great trip, even when you're struggling with

> >candida issues. it might do the body good (emotionally & mentally)

to

> >let go a little and have a good time.

> That is the way I'm looking at it. I have had an extremely grueling

schedule

> for the past year with school and work plus the whole yeast thing

so I am

> just looking forward to a break from everything.

> >and come on girl, you GOTTA have a guinness, i mean, it's ireland!

i

> >like bee's advice - just stock up on protein, fat and extra

vitamins

> >and ENJOY!!

>

> ;+) that was not what I was expecting to hear from Bee and I loved

it!

~~~~~see my other post where i reflected on debby's important input.

> >although i have my candida pretty well under control these days, i

> >still take good care to eat well and minimize " unfriendly foods "

> >whenever possible.

>

> Does this mean you haven't indulged in any chocolate in Belgium?

~~~~~~oh, i did have some belgian chocolates twice. each time i felt

fine for a while afterward, but a few hours later i felt gross. i'm

not much of a sugar liker anyway, it was more like " everyone else is

doing it so i will too " . it just doesn't agree with me if i have more

than a bite at a time (candida or not), especially on an empty

stomach - yuck.

> I love Europe! I envy you so much, do you travel for you and your

husbands

> jobs or just for the adventure? What is your husband graduating

from in

> Venice?

~~~~~we are here because my husband got a scholarship grant to attend

a one year program here. first 6 months in venice, second 6 months in

belgium. he will graduate with a masters in human rights and

democratization. then back the US to figure out what comes next. i'm

hoping to get my cooking biz back up and running, i miss it! i taught

some classes in italy, and did some personal cheffing over the

holdiays for american vacationers, but otherwise i've been organizing

recipes for a cookbook, doing writing on food subjects, and working

on other projects. i'm looking forward to getting back into the dance

of the kitchen soon!

> There is no way I would survive on this diet in Italy, it just

> wouldn't happen.

i went through a rough period in italy, lonely & bored (living on a

somewhat isolated island in the venetian laguna, husband very busy

and absorbed in school, no internet at home, no job). i got into the

comfort of the kitchen, and experimenting with italian cuisine -

well, after few months of rissotos, pastas, formaggios, dolces &

vinos i was quite a mess. when we arrived in belgium i was in bad

shape. i got back on the candida diet, followed it to the letter

(best i could with what we have available here) and once again, got

better. it really works.

> >i hope you have a great trip, shirley!! bon voyage!

>

> Thank-you so much, you as well.

~~~~~~thanks !

[Guest guest]

--- Mehner <valiegal50@...> wrote:

> Debby, you said it exactly like it is. I loved

> your analogy of the water and food cravings. I've

> been fighting the temptations and doing just that,

> putting off till I get my fill of everything. Then

> getting so discussted with myself for doing this.

> Its almost as if I don't care enough about myself to

> try.

Val,

All I can say is, if you don't care enough about

yourself to take care of yourself, who will? Do you

want to just keep digging yourself further into the

hole so it's harder to get out?

You know that it's just going to get harder and harder

to fix this problem so why procrastinate? Pretending

the problem isn't there won't make it go away.

Eventually you will be forced to deal with this, so it

can be sooner so you can lead a quality life, or later

so you can be miserable.

Sooner or later you will get CFS, or cancer, or lupus

or IBS and you will be struck down by this disease.

Think what it is that food is doing for you and

realize it isn't doing that.

What ever void you are filling with food, fill it with

something else. Start by making a plan each day of

what you are going to eat and sticking to it.

Make a list of things you can do for yourself and do

them, even if you don't think it will help (because

you need to fake it 'till you make it!) because

eventually it will.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

Today is the most important day.

[Guest guest]

Debby,

Your words are from the heart and I really have taken them as such. I know I

will *want* to just go hog wild and " experience " the food, but as you say if

I do that then I will probably not enjoy anything else. This is a powerful

incentive! I know how I have reacted/responded to lapses in the past like

heart palpitations, insomnia, IBS etc. and I surely do not wish to ruin my

vacation with any of these conditions just for a few moments of oral

pleasure ;+) Thank-you for being you and please don't ever change who you

are, keep the good, honest words coming.

Shirley

>From: Debby Padilla-Hudson <debbypadilla@...>

>Hi there..

>

>I hate to be a downer on this topic, really I do. But

>I had an experience with this a while back that I'd

>like to share.

>

>About 7 years ago I was doing low carb and got a

>chance to go to London on vacation. I decided to go

>off of my diet for vacation.

>

>Bad idea. I was bloated and sick the whole trip, none

>of my clothes fit because my belly was bulging so

>much, and I wasn't really able to enjoy the trip with

>the way I felt.

>

>So enjoy the sights, enjoy the sounds, etc. but if you

>enjoy the food you probably wont' be able to enjoy

>anything else. Your body will revolt with this stuff.

>

>Luv,

>Debby

>San , CA

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your testimony , I have plenty of will to enjoy my trip

AND feel good while doing so.

Don't be so hard on yourself, you will get back in the groove. Maybe you

just haven't hit bottom yet. You will feel better as soon as you buckle down

though so let that be your incentive.

Shirley

>From: Mehner <valiegal50@...>

I agree with Debby 100%. I went on my trip out west in July and followed it

perfectly all the way there, but when I got there and was running all over

with family and friends I started to cheat. No way around it with this busy

trip--barbeques, beaches, picnics, etc. I've been having a rough time since,

trying to get back on it. I'm not doing very well at all. I've been so

discouraged.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Shirley, and I'm so glad I could help. I'm

looking forward to hearing how it goes for you. It is

hard sometimes to share this information because it

really is kind of negative and depressing if you think

about it.

You know you think " Why me " and " this sucks " and " how

come everyone else can eat that way " . When you are

sharing that kind of information it's very common and

easy for people to resist what you are saying, because

they don't want to believe it's true because if they

acknowledge it they have to change and change is HARD!

So I try to share with as much compassion as I would

want to be treated with, because I now it's hard too!

Yes I wish it didn't have to be so hard but it would

be unrealistic to say it isn't.

I don't like to hear people beat themselves up when

they cheat because it does no good! This is HARD..

make no mistake. Why should you feel bad when the

world really isn't set up to support you?

Restaurants don't cater to you or have special candida

menus, friends don't understand or help, spouses eat

junk in front of you, parents offer you bad things,

co-workers are jealous or hostile, you have to deal

with emotions in ways other than eating, cravings,

feeling left out, the list goes on.

The world is not set up to help you with this, so you

have to want to help yourself and believe in yourself

more than anything.

You also have to support yourself in every way

possible, because the world will not support you. I do

this by planning my meals, making meals available for

myself so it is easy and I can deal with what ever

comes my way.

I do this by insisting certain trigger foods are not

brought in my house. It's a short list but I feel

entitled to ask for just a couple of things (sourdough

bread and cookie dough are my kryptonite).

Just remember also that " wanting " foods and these

feelings and upsets and joy are all fleeting.. they

will go away.

Feelings are meant to be felt, and sometimes they are

good and sometimes they are bad, but they come and go.

The damage you do by re-igniting your cravings for

sugar, both emotionally and physically, can last quite

a while longer.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- Shirley G <chickwbrains@...> wrote:

> Debby,

>

> Your words are from the heart and I really have

> taken them as such. I know I

> will *want* to just go hog wild and " experience " the

> food, but as you say if

> I do that then I will probably not enjoy anything

> else. This is a powerful

> incentive! I know how I have reacted/responded to

> lapses in the past like

> heart palpitations, insomnia, IBS etc. and I surely

> do not wish to ruin my

> vacation with any of these conditions just for a few

> moments of oral

> pleasure ;+) Thank-you for being you and please

> don't ever change who you

> are, keep the good, honest words coming.

>

> Shirley

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

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Today is the most important day.