Insomnia and carbs

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Hi Bee (or anyone else who wants to jump in),

I recently went through a severe bought of insomnia - my body refused

to sleep for nearly 3 weeks - and yes I did try all the natural

supplements, teas and so on. In my case it has to do with doing

intense recovery work from childhood trauma - the adrenalin just ran

through my body night and day. I'm in a somewhat better place right

now but during that time I heard from friends that the body uses carbs

to put itself to sleep and protein to be alert. They were wondering if

my low carb diet could be adding to the problem. I've seen the

research you've shared with us on the lack of need for carbs and am

wondering how it fits into the issue of what the body needs to sleep.

Thanks, Anita T.

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>

> Hi Bee (or anyone else who wants to jump in),

> I recently went through a severe bought of insomnia - my body refused

> to sleep for nearly 3 weeks - and yes I did try all the natural

> supplements, teas and so on. In my case it has to do with doing

> intense recovery work from childhood trauma - the adrenalin just ran

> through my body night and day. I'm in a somewhat better place right

> now but during that time I heard from friends that the body uses

carbs to put itself to sleep and protein to be alert. They were

wondering if my low carb diet could be adding to the problem. I've seen

the research you've shared with us on the lack of need for carbs and am

> wondering how it fits into the issue of what the body needs to sleep.

==>Anita, 58% of protein and 10% of fat turns into carbs/glucose in the

body.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> >

> > Hi Bee (or anyone else who wants to jump in),

> > I recently went through a severe bought of insomnia - my body refused

> > to sleep for nearly 3 weeks - and yes I did try all the natural

> > supplements, teas and so on. In my case it has to do with doing

> > intense recovery work from childhood trauma - the adrenalin just ran

> > through my body night and day.

Anita,

Just curious, how much coconut oil are you using? When I use/take it too

close to bed time I am unable to sleep. Also if you just started taking it

for the first time there is a period of adjustment. This sounds flaky I

know, but several people have trouble sleeping while using it at first. My

sister is currently trying to adjust.

Shirley

[Guest guest]

> > > I recently went through a severe bought of insomnia -

> Just curious, how much coconut oil are you using? When I use/take

it too

> close to bed time I am unable to sleep. Also if you just started

taking it

> for the first time there is a period of adjustment. This sounds

flaky I

> know, but several people have trouble sleeping while using it at

first. My

> sister is currently trying to adjust.

>

> Shirley

>

Hi Shirley, Thanks for the reply. I've been taking coconut oil for

several years now. About 2 months ago I raised it from 3-4 T a day

to the 5 or 6 T I'm using now .

My evening meal is around 6 or 6:30 and I typically have up to 2 T

with dinner - none later in the evening. That shouldn't pose a

problem should it?

Thanks,Anita

[Guest guest]

>From: " neets7679 " <maetoliver@...>

>Hi Shirley, Thanks for the reply. I've been taking coconut oil for

>several years now. About 2 months ago I raised it from 3-4 T a day

>to the 5 or 6 T I'm using now .

>My evening meal is around 6 or 6:30 and I typically have up to 2 T

>with dinner - none later in the evening. That shouldn't pose a

>problem should it?

>Thanks,Anita

No Anita, the two T's with food should not pose a problem. I thought that

maybe you were just starting out on it for some reason.

Shirley

[Guest guest]

Just curious, how much coconut oil are you using? When I use/take it too

close to bed time I am unable to sleep. Also if you just started taking it

for the first time there is a period of adjustment. This sounds flaky I

know, but several people have trouble sleeping while using it at first. My

sister is currently trying to adjust.

Shirley

==== What a hoot! And how timely. I have been unable to sleep for a week

and couldn't figure out why! I started taking a Tbspn of coconut oil with

oil or oregano before bed awhile ago.

I lookforward to a good night's sleep tonight!. Thanks ladies

Penny

[Guest guest]

>When I use/take it too close to bed time I am unable to sleep. several

>people have trouble >sleeping while using it at first. My sister is

>currently trying to adjust.

>Shirley

>

>==== What a hoot! And how timely. I have been unable to sleep for a week

>and couldn't figure out why! I started taking a Tbspn of coconut oil with

>oil or oregano before bed awhile ago. I lookforward to a good night's

>sleep tonight!. Thanks ladies

>Penny

Hi Penny,

So glad we could help!

Shirley

[Guest guest]

i was going through some old mails and came upon this one. I have been

have terrible insomnia since I have been taking coconut oil. About three

months to be exact. Do you think this could also be my problem. The

insomnia is terrible. Hope to hear from you. Deb

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>From: Debbie <dcox81@...>

>i was going through some old mails and came upon this one. I have been

>have terrible insomnia since I have been taking coconut oil. About three

>months to be exact. Do you think this could also be my problem. The

>insomnia is terrible. Hope to hear from you. Deb

Hi Deb,

I can speak to how the caprylic acid in coconut oil affects me and it is

usually in the way of excessive energy, almost like a caffeine surge. If for

some reason I ran out of the oil and was off it for a few days upon re-using

it again I must go through a period of adjustment where I am unable to fall

asleep. The only way I can think of to circumvent this is by using miniscule

amounts of it and very gradually building up to the recommended amounts.

Shirley

[Guest guest]

>

> i was going through some old mails and came upon this one. I have

been have terrible insomnia since I have been taking coconut oil.

About threemonths to be exact. Do you think this could also be my

problem. The insomnia is terrible. Hope to hear from you.

==>Hi Deb. You will get insomnia if you have your fats too late in the

day before bedtime. Some people can't have them after 3-4:00 PM in the

afternoon or it interferes with their sleep because it creates too much

energy for the body.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Bee, this is wonderful to know. I have been fighting this for over three

months. I have had so much trouble I think denying that I have this

candida. I have the pancreatitis and I should not eat any fats. I now

have a cholesterol of 293 with an LDL of 285 and HDL of 32. Not good. I

have the candida in my esophagus and my fingers. And just a month ago it

is all over my skin. That is the worse. The itching just is unbearable.

I never thought that you could become addicted to sugar like this. It

is awful and I don't know where to start first. The skin itching and

lesions now is the worse. I don't know if you remember but I have cystic

fibrosis also. Well just wondered if you have any suggestions for me. I

have read all your material but it is so hard to get past this candy.

Take care. Deb

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>

> Bee, this is wonderful to know. I have been fighting this for

over three months. I have had so much trouble I think denying that

I have this candida. I have the pancreatitis and I should not eat

any fats. I now have a cholesterol of 293 with an LDL of 285 and

HDL of 32. Not good. I have the candida in my esophagus and my

fingers. And just a month ago it is all over my skin. That is the

worse. The itching just is unbearable.

> I never thought that you could become addicted to sugar like

this. It is awful and I don't know where to start first. The skin

itching and lesions now is the worse. I don't know if you remember

but I have cystic fibrosis also. Well just wondered if you have any

suggestions for me. I have read all your material but it is so hard

to get past this candy.

> Take care.

==> Deb, the first most important step you must take is to eliminate

sugars (it's poison to your body), along with grains and high carb

veggies which also turn into sugar in your body. Take extra vitamin

C to curb your cravings and bite the bullet my dear. You have no

choice.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

I guess denial will get me no where! I never thought that all this sugar

could be so terrible on your body. You are right it is a poison. How do

I get back to your web page? Help Deb

[Guest guest]

>

> I guess denial will get me no where! I never thought that all

this sugar

> could be so terrible on your body. You are right it is a poison.

How do

> I get back to your web page? Help Deb

>

Hey Deb! I've been on this diet now for 35 days and I have finally

started craving fat! Sugar used to be my weakness, then protein, now

all I want to eat is fat.. butter, VCO, and animal fat. It feels

awesome to not be a slave to sugary treats anymore. I wish you much

success as you move forward through this diet.

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with Metta,

~Lori~

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>

> I guess denial will get me no where! I never thought that all this

sugar could be so terrible on your body. You are right it is a

poison. How do I get back to your web page? Help

==> /

Bee

[Guest guest]

>From: " Bee " <beeisbuzzing2003@...>

>

> >

>I have been have terrible insomnia since I have been taking coconut oil.

>About threemonths to be exact. Do you think this could also be my

>problem. The insomnia is terrible.

>==>Hi Deb. You will get insomnia if you have your fats too late in the

>day before bedtime. Some people can't have them after 3-4:00 PM in the

>afternoon or it interferes with their sleep because it creates too much

>energy for the body.

>

>The best, Bee

Bee and Debbie,

I would just like to add something else here, I noticed if I take too much

niacin (like 400mg) along with my daily intake of 4000mg of vit c, I have

trouble falling asleep. I also noticed my skin gets drier at this amount too

no matter how much fat I consume, so this proves to me what you said Bee

about about the vit c and niacin creating H2O2 in our bodies and oxygenating

our blood.

Just something else for those of you having trouble sleeping to consider, if

coconut oil is not the culprit it could be higher amounts of niacin or vit c

that is making extra oxygen in your blood which can result in insomnia. I

remember this feeling from when I was taking H2O2 internally, it was exactly

the same, no sleep!

I am learning sooo much! I never paid much attention to my body before but

now I can't help it. It rewards me when I am good to it (giving it the

proper fuel) and punishes me when I try to pull a fast one (like eating nuts

8^).

Shirley

[Guest guest]

I also have very bad insomnia, but at the same time I

have tons of energy that I didn't have before which I

enjoy.

What helps me some is making sure I wake up early

every day even on the weekends, and occassionally

taking melatonin to reset my clock.

I'm not sure how I would manage to take less fats in

the evening because I mix all my food groups together

and I tend to get hungry the most in the evening.

In fact I am able to sleep better on a full stomach,

but then I gain weight if I eat too close to bed time.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- Debbie <dcox81@...> wrote:

> i was going through some old mails and came upon

> this one. I have been

> have terrible insomnia since I have been taking

> coconut oil. About three

> months to be exact. Do you think this could also be

> my problem. The

> insomnia is terrible. Hope to hear from you.

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[Guest guest]

I have a very hard time going to bed unless I eat something soon

before (1 hour to 1.5 hours) I believe in my case it is adrenal

exhaustion, your adrenals when burnt out cause hormone production that

will mess with sleep. Is there a particular time during the night you

all have the hardest time sleeping, during different hours within the

sleep cycle different organs are more or less active

[Guest guest]

Bee & Debbie:

> I would just like to add something else here, I noticed if I take

too much niacin (like 400mg) along with my daily intake of 4000mg of

vit c, I have trouble falling asleep. I also noticed my skin gets

drier at this amount too no matter how much fat I consume, so this

proves to me what you said Bee about about the vit c and niacin

creating H2O2 in our bodies and oxygenating our blood.

>

> Just something else for those of you having trouble sleeping to

consider, if coconut oil is not the culprit it could be higher

amounts of niacin or vit c that is making extra oxygen in your blood

which can result in insomnia. I remember this feeling from when I

was taking H2O2 internally, it was exactly the same, no sleep!

>

> I am learning sooo much! I never paid much attention to my body

before but now I can't help it. It rewards me when I am good to it

(giving it the proper fuel) and punishes me when I try to pull a

fast one (like eating nuts 8^).

==> Shirley, I agree with your assessments about vitamin C and

niacin (oxygenating the blood with H202) interfering with sleep.

I've experienced the same problem with B complex. Shirley, your

thinking is going in the right direction. Good for you!

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

wrote: " I have a very hard time going to bed unless I eat

something soon before (1 hour to 1.5 hours) I believe in my case it is

adrenal exhaustion, your adrenals when burnt out cause hormone

production that will mess with sleep... "

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Hi ,

Your mention of adrenals made me think of Bee's post no. 28312, re:

adrenal function and the importance of following its cycle in terms of

sleep time. Though I find it really hard to go to bed early, whenever I

succeed in doing it, I find a substancial difference in my sleep (time

it takes to fall a sleep, quality of sleep, uninterrumpted sleep) and

wake up more rested (as opposed to waking up tired and just wanting to

sleep some more). I thought I would mention it in case it helps.

Fran

[Guest guest]

Greetings ! No matter what I do, I cannot get into bed before 2

am. The good news is that I am no longer napping during the day unless

I get severe die-off symptoms (this usually makes me very tired

throughout the day). If I try to sleep before 2 am, I just toss and

turn for hours. So now I just stay up until 2 am, and then sleep

soundly all night, usually waking up around 9:30 am.

with Metta,

~Lori~

Is there a particular time during the night you

> all have the hardest time sleeping, during different hours within

the

> sleep cycle different organs are more or less active

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe you just need to move to a different time zone, lol

[Guest guest]

>From: " lkpetrolino " <lkpetrolino@...>

> I have a very hard time going to bed unless I eat something soon

>before (1 hour to 1.5 hours) I believe in my case it is adrenal

>exhaustion, your adrenals when burnt out cause hormone production that

>will mess with sleep. Is there a particular time during the night you

>all have the hardest time sleeping, during different hours within the

>sleep cycle different organs are more or less active

>

>

,

For me, I mostly have difficulty falling asleep. Once I'm out though it is

usually for the entire night.

I cut back on the niacin by 100mg today so I am interested to see what

happens tonight ;+)

Shirley

[Guest guest]

For me once I get to sleep I have no problem sleeping.

Usually I can fall asleep pretty easily too, and I

sleep very deeply and don't want to wake up in the

morning.

For me I'm not sure how much of it for me isn't just

emotional. I love the time at night by myself, while

my husband and son sleep.

I read my book, watch TV, surf the web and just have

uninterrupted me time. I like it so much I don't want

it to stop and I know it will stop once I go to sleep!

I'm constantly having to manage my sleep, set bedtimes

for myself, give myself time limits for how long I

read, even if the book is really good, etc.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- lkpetrolino <lkpetrolino@...> wrote:

>

> I have a very hard time going to bed unless I eat

> something soon

> before (1 hour to 1.5 hours) I believe in my case

> it is adrenal

> exhaustion, your adrenals when burnt out cause

> hormone production that

> will mess with sleep. Is there a particular time

> during the night you

> all have the hardest time sleeping, during different

> hours within the

> sleep cycle different organs are more or less active

>

>

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