complaint about Bee Wilder's dogma

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It's come to my attention that several parts of Bee Wilder's advice

on the group are inconsistent with current

research as well as prudent and historic practice.

Previous incongruence with research and traditional usage involves

her adherence to the Elaine Gotschall Specific Carbohydrate Diet

(SCD) dogma that supposes to reduce pathogenic fermentation in the

gut, while on a diet that decimates mainly the beneficial probiotic

populations and leaves the overall population unchanged numerically.

Though this is part of careful research, SCD apologists won't have it.

The curent offense may have more to do with her advisor, a site

called Healing Crow, an SCD site she holds in high esteem and often

quotes. The site is predictably anti-fermentation and it also

maintains that beneficial undenatured whey isolates are potentially

harmful because they are " processed " chemicals. We have seen evidence

to the contrary on both points, and the poducts in their cheapest

form are about as processed as celtic sea salt.

So, it didn't surprise me that the following seemingly innocuous bit

of dialogue got a listmate afoul of Bee Wilder's " don't correct me "

bylaw and she was banned. When brought it to my attention I

was dismayed because selenium deficiency is incredibly common, it is

known to be aggravated by the arsenic in drinking and bathing water,

environmental data shows us that arsenic is a huge problem all over

North America, and medical research shows us that glutathione and

selenium are the natural means to reduce it.

It should be obvious now that Bee Wilder's information

is dogma like the SCD and by definition unrefineable by science, and

what's more the moderator will contrive to protect information what

she has been shown is dangerously inaccurate. Besides being ill-

informed today, she has made every indication she has the desire to

remain that way. What's worse, the several glaring mistakes that are

entrenched on her discussion board can undermine even the most

diligent health regime.

Here's the post that got Patrica banned; I understand she commented

briefly on Bee Wilder's stance on potassium deficiency and

glutathione earlier and was upbraided in private for doing so,

something about " don't correct me " bylaw:

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Re: Glutathione and your immune system Posted by: " Gilbert "

patriciagilbert@... patricia_gilbert_49 Date: Tue Sep 19, 2006

11:49 am (PDT)

>

>

> Hi , Your body makes glutathione from protein, and it does

> much better obtaining protein from natural sources, i.e. meats &

> eggs. Any supplement is going to be processed, but meats and eggs

> are not. Selenium is contained in ocean sea salt, which is only

> required in trace amounts by the body too.

>

> Bee

Hi Bee,

As you say protein could be a trace source of glutathione precursors,

but research has established that it must be raw.

Raw vegetables also contain traces of these peptides, and undenatured

whey protein powder, a processed (dried) product, contains

particularly high concentrations. Raw egg white contains some too but

I'm not eating a pound of raw egg white evey day, thanks -- I'll

stick with a few grams of undenatured whey isolate in a shake

I found in my basic research that the term undenatured applies

specifically to not breaking these important peptides. If the

peptides are broken the free cysteine released is toxic and besides,

it does not enter cells in that form to create glutathione. Cysteine

can only pass cell walls and enter in peptide form, such as these

undenatured glutathione-forming peptides in undenatured whey powder:

cystine

glutamylcysteine

cysteinelglutamylcysteine

I think the amount of selenium used for health maintenance is about

200mcg daily. I take selenium because you can get a 50% reduction in

cancer risk and infection is lower, and adequate selenium is crucial

to glutathione support.

Sea salt contains only traces of selenium. One manufacturer writes

(on their brochure):

" Light Grey Celtic Sea Salt consists primarily of sodium and

chloride....the amount of Selenium present in our salt is so small

that it could not be detected by our chemist's equipment, which can

only detect that particular element in concentrations greater than

0.0002%. "

I don't use sea salt at all because sodium depletes potassium; I use

potassium salts and take trace minerals instead.

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I hadn't given Bee's group much thought before this incident. I was

here ages ago when she tried her bullshit on this goup, then she

mentioned she started her own group and disappeared and I had

forgotten about it. Anyway, now that I've noticed, I can't support

such a group. Beware the agenda sites

The factual part of the information on first glance is almost

identical between candidiasis and groups anyway, but

those three or four pivotal factors she got wrong could make all the

difference, so if you go there, just be aware of them.

Duncan Crow