Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 according to Snowdrift Farms, Polysorbate 20 is used to disperse and emulsify. It is indispensible for oil in water emulsions, such as lotions, conditioners and cfream rinses. It's a must have oil-dispersant in body mists and spritzers. Now if you understand this explain it to me. But it sounds like a thickener that prevents seperation of products. Correct me if I am wrong. I am a newbie afterall. Sorry I cant help you on the other 2. Joyce in Texas Another Dumb Question I know I've asked this 800 times, but I need to print out the answer and can't find it. What are the following things used for? I'M SO IGNORANT!! Emulsifying Wax Solubulizer (?) Polysorbate 20 Thanks, my lovelies!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 according to Snowdrift Farms, Polysorbate 20 is used to disperse and emulsify. It is indispensible for oil in water emulsions, such as lotions, conditioners and cfream rinses. It's a must have oil-dispersant in body mists and spritzers. Now if you understand this explain it to me. But it sounds like a thickener that prevents seperation of products. Correct me if I am wrong. I am a newbie afterall. Sorry I cant help you on the other 2. Joyce in Texas Another Dumb Question I know I've asked this 800 times, but I need to print out the answer and can't find it. What are the following things used for? I'M SO IGNORANT!! Emulsifying Wax Solubulizer (?) Polysorbate 20 Thanks, my lovelies!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 Thank you. Unfortunately, I STILL am not sure what I ordered it for. What a moron I am!! I guess I'll have to go back where I got it and see!! Thanks, sweetie! Re: Another Dumb Question according to Snowdrift Farms, Polysorbate 20 is used to disperse and emulsify. It is indispensible for oil in water emulsions, such as lotions, conditioners and cfream rinses. It's a must have oil-dispersant in body mists and spritzers. Now if you understand this explain it to me. But it sounds like a thickener that prevents seperation of products. Correct me if I am wrong. I am a newbie afterall. Sorry I cant help you on the other 2. Joyce in Texas Another Dumb Question I know I've asked this 800 times, but I need to print out the answer and can't find it. What are the following things used for? I'M SO IGNORANT!! Emulsifying Wax Solubulizer (?) Polysorbate 20 Thanks, my lovelies!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 Thank you. Unfortunately, I STILL am not sure what I ordered it for. What a moron I am!! I guess I'll have to go back where I got it and see!! Thanks, sweetie! Re: Another Dumb Question according to Snowdrift Farms, Polysorbate 20 is used to disperse and emulsify. It is indispensible for oil in water emulsions, such as lotions, conditioners and cfream rinses. It's a must have oil-dispersant in body mists and spritzers. Now if you understand this explain it to me. But it sounds like a thickener that prevents seperation of products. Correct me if I am wrong. I am a newbie afterall. Sorry I cant help you on the other 2. Joyce in Texas Another Dumb Question I know I've asked this 800 times, but I need to print out the answer and can't find it. What are the following things used for? I'M SO IGNORANT!! Emulsifying Wax Solubulizer (?) Polysorbate 20 Thanks, my lovelies!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 TO ALL...does this mean I can mix with EO/FO and make a body spray???? Re: Another Dumb Question according to Snowdrift Farms, Polysorbate 20 is used to disperse and emulsify. It is indispensible for oil in water emulsions, such as lotions, conditioners and cfream rinses. It's a must have oil-dispersant in body mists and spritzers. Now if you understand this explain it to me. But it sounds like a thickener that prevents seperation of products. Correct me if I am wrong. I am a newbie afterall. Sorry I cant help you on the other 2. Joyce in Texas Another Dumb Question I know I've asked this 800 times, but I need to print out the answer and can't find it. What are the following things used for? I'M SO IGNORANT!! Emulsifying Wax Solubulizer (?) Polysorbate 20 Thanks, my lovelies!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 In a message dated 4/5/02 11:40:46 AM Central Standard Time, mvogler@... writes: > I know I've asked this 800 times, but I need to print out the answer and > can't find it. What are the following things used for? I'M SO IGNORANT!! > > Emulsifying Wax > Solubulizer (?) > Polysorbate 20 > > Thanks, my lovelies!! > Hi, I don't know if this has already been answered, but Solubulizer is a fragrance base for eo/fo's which is then added to distilled water. The name " Solubulizer " is the actual name of the product. Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 TO ALL...does this mean I can mix with EO/FO and make a body spray???? Weeeelllll.....I think you could try it in a small bottle, why not? I use EOs mixed in a small amount of jojoba oil and keep it in a spray bottle with distilled water for spritzing my hair~ leaves it shiny AND smelling great. As long as you think small, you really won't lose all that much, will you? I even use EOs in distilled water in a cobalt blue spray bottle, and shake it well before using. I call it my " pretendosol " instead of using up my good hydrosols:^) It ain't perfect, but it mists nicely and smells great. Fun to play around with for sure. Lucinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 Emulsifying Wax To hold water and oils together use in lotions or creams Solubulizer (?) Stabilizes scents in linen sprays don't know if body safe could be Polysorbate 20 Like E-wax I have not used this one so I don't know how well it works Another Dumb Question > I know I've asked this 800 times, but I need to print out the answer and > can't find it. What are the following things used for? I'M SO IGNORANT!! > > Emulsifying Wax > Solubulizer (?) > Polysorbate 20 > > Thanks, my lovelies!! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2002 Report Share Posted April 6, 2002 Would you mind telling me how much of jojoba oil, EO, and distilled water that you use. That sounds great! maggie Re: Another Dumb Question > > TO ALL...does this mean I can mix with EO/FO and make a body spray???? > > > Weeeelllll.....I think you could try it in a small bottle, why not? I use EOs mixed in a small amount of jojoba oil and keep it in a spray bottle with distilled water for spritzing my hair~ leaves it shiny AND smelling great. As long as you think small, you really won't lose all that much, will you? > I even use EOs in distilled water in a cobalt blue spray bottle, and shake it well before using. I call it my " pretendosol " instead of using up my good hydrosols:^) It ain't perfect, but it mists nicely and smells great. Fun to play around with for sure. > Lucinda > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2002 Report Share Posted April 6, 2002 Hi- Just now reading my mail, sorry I'm so late! The EO I am using is neroli, just a couple of drops in maybe 10 drops of jojoba, then I only put half of this into my 4 oz. spray bottle, shake well before using. Neroli is one of those EOs you don't want to waste, so that's why I mix it with the jojoba before putting it in the sprayer. Really, you can use however much EO you want for strength.......if it smells like you want it to smell, that's about right;^) Then several drops of jojoba- I don't use very much at a time, but you can adjust for your hair type. If you leave a little room in your sprayer, then if you happen to get it a bit stronger than you'd like, you can add more water as needed~ it's just very hard to take it back out;^) And if you don't really like it for your hair, toss it in the bathtub, no great loss. Have fun! Lucinda Re: Another Dumb Question Would you mind telling me how much of jojoba oil, EO, and distilled water that you use. That sounds great! maggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2002 Report Share Posted April 7, 2002 In a message dated 4/5/02 10:41:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mvogler@... writes: > I know I've asked this 800 times, but I need to print out the answer and > can't find it. What are the following things used for? I'M SO IGNORANT!! > > Emulsifying Wax > Solubulizer (?) > Polysorbate 20 > > Thanks, my lovelies!! > Hi! Emulsifying Wax is an ingredient that makes it much easier to make cream and lotion! Emulsifying Wax can be a generic term, unless you purchase the one that is Emulsifying Wax NF. Basically they are usually made up from a fatty alcohol and an emulsifier or two. As you know, oil and water don't mix on their own. Something must bind them together. Some chemists use a system called HLB to figure out what kind of emulsifiers need to be used for particular formulations. Since this is a little complicated, some really smart chemist came up with the idea of self-emulsifying wax as a " one-ingredient solution " to make lotion/cream. Polysorbate 20 is what most folks use to make body mist or room mist. It will solubilize the eo/fo and the water, so that it will stay in solution. It is an oily feeling surfactant. The standard amount to start with is a 1:1 ratio of eo/fo to polysorbate 20 and then add to water. Solubilize and emulsify are two very similar terms. If you want to make a body mist so that your eo/fo and the water " mix " then you would need a solubilizer to " bind " them together--something like the polysorbate 20. If you want to make a lotion, then you need an emulsifier, something like emulsifying wax NF, to make the water and oils mix or bind together. Also, the particle size is smaller in something that is solubilized, than in an emulsion. But this is the basic idea. Hope this helps! Angie The Herbarie...Visit us at:Â http://www.theherbarie.com for Body Care Products and Bulk Ingredients...Botanical Extracts and Proteins, Ultra-Mild Surfactant Blends, Conditioning Emulsifiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2002 Report Share Posted April 7, 2002 Oh, Lucinda, Thanks so much. I can't wait to try it. But I don't have a spray bottle? Does it need to be glass or can I get a plastic spray bottle at Wal Mart? Maggie Re: Another Dumb Question > Hi- Just now reading my mail, sorry I'm so late! > The EO I am using is neroli, just a couple of drops in maybe 10 drops of jojoba, then I only put half of this into my 4 oz. spray bottle, shake well before using. Neroli is one of those EOs you don't want to waste, so that's why I mix it with the jojoba before putting it in the sprayer. Really, you can use however much EO you want for strength.......if it smells like you want it to smell, that's about right;^) Then several drops of jojoba- I don't use very much at a time, but you can adjust for your hair type. > > If you leave a little room in your sprayer, then if you happen to get it a bit stronger than you'd like, you can add more water as needed~ it's just very hard to take it back out;^) And if you don't really like it for your hair, toss it in the bathtub, no great loss. > Have fun! > Lucinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2002 Report Share Posted April 7, 2002 Oh, Lucinda, Thanks so much. I can't wait to try it. But I don't have a spray bottle? Does it need to be glass or can I get a plastic spray bottle at Wal Mart? Maggie Well, Maggie, that would be your choice, knowing EOs can eat away at some plastics lean me towards glass, but the fact you'd only be using a few drops of EOs might mean plastic is okay for you....I can tell you I tried a pretty potent mixture in a plastic bottle (like 15-20 drops EO in 4 OZ water) and it actually melted away the soft plastic gasket in the top of the bottle! I pretty much stick with glass for this, especially for misting directly on my body, but I saved that one with the melted gasket for hair spray. (I ran out of glass ones) BTW, I find it interesting that the plastic dip straws inside the glass sprayers don't melt away, but soft rubber dropper tops do. EOs are pretty good solvents when used neet/(neat?) or in strong concentrations. HTH- Lucinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2002 Report Share Posted April 7, 2002 t. What are the following things used for> > Emulsifying Wax > Solubulizer (?) > Polysorbate 20 I hope this will answer your question. Emulsifying wax is used to make stable blends of oil and water. I creates a true emulsion and allows higher percentage of water. Polysorbate 20 is used to solubilize fragrance and essential oils in water. It is also used to make a cloudy oil and water clear (body sprays etc.) Solubulizers keep the ingredients dissolved one of the most common kind used is propylene glycol. Hope this answers your question Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2002 Report Share Posted April 8, 2002 In a message dated 4/8/02 9:12:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mvogler@... writes: > Angie...thank you oh goddess of wisdom, light and knowledge!!!!! > > Oh Melody, you are funny! But I love it.....now if only I can get my husband to view me that way LOL!!! Angie The Herbarie...Visit us at:Â http://www.theherbarie.com for Body Care Products and Bulk Ingredients...Botanical Extracts and Proteins, Ultra-Mild Surfactant Blends, Conditioning Emulsifiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2002 Report Share Posted April 8, 2002 Thanks again, Lucinda. You've been a great help. I think I will stick with glass, just to be safe. Maggie Re: Another Dumb Question > > Oh, Lucinda, > > Thanks so much. I can't wait to try it. But I don't have a spray bottle? > Does it need to be glass or can I get a plastic spray bottle at Wal Mart? > > Maggie > > Well, Maggie, that would be your choice, knowing EOs can eat away at some plastics lean me towards glass, but the fact you'd only be using a few drops of EOs might mean plastic is okay for you....I can tell you I tried a pretty potent mixture in a plastic bottle (like 15-20 drops EO in 4 OZ water) and it actually melted away the soft plastic gasket in the top of the bottle! I pretty much stick with glass for this, especially for misting directly on my body, but I saved that one with the melted gasket for hair spray. (I ran out of glass ones) > BTW, I find it interesting that the plastic dip straws inside the glass sprayers don't melt away, but soft rubber dropper tops do. EOs are pretty good solvents when used neet/(neat?) or in strong concentrations. > HTH- > Lucinda > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2002 Report Share Posted April 8, 2002 Angie...thank you oh goddess of wisdom, light and knowledge!!!!! Re: Another Dumb Question In a message dated 4/5/02 10:41:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mvogler@... writes: > I know I've asked this 800 times, but I need to print out the answer and > can't find it. What are the following things used for? I'M SO IGNORANT!! > > Emulsifying Wax > Solubulizer (?) > Polysorbate 20 > > Thanks, my lovelies!! > Hi! Emulsifying Wax is an ingredient that makes it much easier to make cream and lotion! Emulsifying Wax can be a generic term, unless you purchase the one that is Emulsifying Wax NF. Basically they are usually made up from a fatty alcohol and an emulsifier or two. As you know, oil and water don't mix on their own. Something must bind them together. Some chemists use a system called HLB to figure out what kind of emulsifiers need to be used for particular formulations. Since this is a little complicated, some really smart chemist came up with the idea of self-emulsifying wax as a " one-ingredient solution " to make lotion/cream. Polysorbate 20 is what most folks use to make body mist or room mist. It will solubilize the eo/fo and the water, so that it will stay in solution. It is an oily feeling surfactant. The standard amount to start with is a 1:1 ratio of eo/fo to polysorbate 20 and then add to water. Solubilize and emulsify are two very similar terms. If you want to make a body mist so that your eo/fo and the water " mix " then you would need a solubilizer to " bind " them together--something like the polysorbate 20. If you want to make a lotion, then you need an emulsifier, something like emulsifying wax NF, to make the water and oils mix or bind together. Also, the particle size is smaller in something that is solubilized, than in an emulsion. But this is the basic idea. Hope this helps! Angie The Herbarie...Visit us at: http://www.theherbarie.com <http://www.theherbarie.com> for Body Care Products and Bulk Ingredients...Botanical Extracts and Proteins, Ultra-Mild Surfactant Blends, Conditioning Emulsifiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2002 Report Share Posted April 8, 2002 Well, I've learned after 16 years of marriage...just TELL him!!! Re: Another Dumb Question In a message dated 4/8/02 9:12:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mvogler@... writes: > Angie...thank you oh goddess of wisdom, light and knowledge!!!!! > > Oh Melody, you are funny! But I love it.....now if only I can get my husband to view me that way LOL!!! Angie The Herbarie...Visit us at: http://www.theherbarie.com <http://www.theherbarie.com> for Body Care Products and Bulk Ingredients...Botanical Extracts and Proteins, Ultra-Mild Surfactant Blends, Conditioning Emulsifiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Can anyone explain the difference between kidney stones, liver stones and gall stones? Gall stones and liver stones are the same thing, right? But what about kidney stones? I'm doing Hulda s kidney cleanse and there's no mention of stones anywhere in the protocol. Thanks. - p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Llinda, my weird lumps & bumps were in my calves and ankles. There was also considerable swelling and it was red & splotchy. Mine was erythema nodosum. It started getting better after a round of antibiotics and an adjustment to my thyriod meds. De Faith is the ability to not panic. another dumb question Hey Gang... here goes another dumb question for those who have been through tx. Have any of you had weird lumps plant themselves on your body? I have a third bump on my chest, not so small right now and growing... just wondering??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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