Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Hi Sue: (Sorry this is long...) So glad to hear you're making progress. Isn't this a wonderful site? I have learned so much too. First of all, you asked what else you could do about getting your health back. Well, it seems to me that you have most of the bases covered re the Candida - the diet, the anti-fungals - so, you're absolutely right, what you need now is patience. It's a slow process. But keep up the good work and hopefully, you'll get progressively better. You made another comment that " the urgency of the situation has passed " and mentioned the word " cure " . And I wondered if ou knew that there is no " cure " for Candida since it's always in our system - you can only get it back down to acceptable levels. And sometimes to keep Candida at bay, you have to permanently change your eating habits or it will keep coming back - and keep getting worse. I'm one of those people who have always lived to eat. Fresh, crusty baguettes were my downfall. But after five months of " eating right " , I now only have bread on a very special occasion. It's up there in the same category as lobster, LOL - can't afford to have it too often. But the wonderful thing is - after eating healthy foods for months - if I do stray from the path for long (like this past weekend staying with friends where I had little control over the food), I can't wait to get back to eating yogurt and fresh veggies, yada, yada. (also - No bloating. No weight gain). To address your issues with bowel movements. I forgive me for wagging my finger at you, but you really should try to drink more water. LOL, I'm laughing because I have the same problem. I always have a cup of tea hanging around the house somewhere but have to almost force myself to drink water. Well, I was at my ND day before yesterday and " we " are in the process of chelating high levels of mercury from my system. Anyway, he asked me how much water I drank and I counted maybe 3 and then mentioned the tea. He just looked at me and said, " Try to drink at least 6 to 8 glasses of plain filtered water a day " . Remember, you're trying to eliminate toxins (dead Candida) and water is a wonderful " flusher " (s'cuse the pun). (And besides, if you're up to 2 Tablespoons of ground flax seed, I wouldn't think fibre was an issue. It might well be fluids.) And I wanted to say something about you not following s Moritz regimen to the " T " - for instance patterns of eating and sleeping.... If you are making progress in your fight to feel better, then that's wonderful. It's a hard road you have taken so congratulate yourself on your progress (ask yourself how many people you know who could stay on the Candida diet for a month. Ha!). And don't worry about the things you haven't done. I too, have read s Moritz book and learned quite a bit. But, for instance, from the moment I read the chapter on sleep patterns, I knew that this is a step I might never be able to take. And believe me, I'm not beating myself up over it. Because, as has been stated so many times here on this forum, everyone is different and what's right for a hundred people, may not be right for me. So I don't slavishly follow any one person's plan or advice - I learn something from every book I read, every web site I visit - and I adopt what feels best for me. So do what your gut tells you is right but please, no guilt (another form of stress and Candida loves stress!!) I'd be interested in hearing how your first liver flush went (I've been discussing them with my ND - I guess the Epsom salts flush is a common one). I am considering doing some down the line but am a tad apprehensive - the word " nausea " has been mentioned too many times in connection with liver flushes. LOL Anyway Sue - congrats again on your progress and to your continued Good Health - p Next Level > I am at an interesting stage of my healing plan. > After: > 1) being on a strict diet for 4 weeks > 2) taking anti-fungals for 20 days of those four weeks > 3) 1 Liver flush > 4) 1 Colonic > my symptoms have improved. > > I can tolerate some wheat, sugar, ... etc. (I have tried some sample > cookies at the health food store - and I didn't die!). I can also > tolerate nuts, which I couldn't before. But after testing each food a > couple of times, I felt very guilty and feared the worse. So I know to > stay away from them. > > I have also started eating 1 fruit (maybe 2)/day, which I enjoy very > much. However, I still try to keep it to a minimum. My symptoms do not > flare up as much as before and I do not have as much of a craving for > junk food. I crave fruits and veggies mostly. I am eating the foods > recommended for my dosha. > > I am still having issues with bowel movements. I have tried > incorporating P & B shakes and flax seed meal. 1 P & B shake in the > morning. Mixing 2 tbsp of flaxseed meal with my yoghurt. I don't have > a desire to drink too much water, but I enjoy drinking warm tea, so I > hope that counts as water intake ... ? No results yet, but it's only > been a few days so I'll give it time. I started with P & B shakes about > a week ago. Then I added flax seed meal a couple of days ago. > > I'm at an interesting stage of progress. I can tolerate " forbidden " > foods better than before so it's easy to fall off the wagon. At the > same time, I'm not fully cured. (I get vag. discomfort at least once > daily, bloating from c., cramps every now and then). So I'm wondering > what more I can do. > > I can't wait until my next liver flush, but I have to wait another > week before I can do another one. At that point I'll be travelling, so > I'll have to wait an additional week. > > I am blessed for my improvements and for learning so much from this > list. In the past, my symptoms were so dreadful that I was so > motivated. Now, the urgency of the situation has passed. > > I appreciate all the emails that were sent out about how it's > important to love yourself and treat yourself right. I have much to do > in that department. Also, I have not followed the andreas moritz > timetable of when to eat and sleep. > > Most imortantly, I think I need patience. This does not get resolved > over night - especially after years of self-abuse. I hesitated to > share my " second level " difficulties with the group, because there are > so many others on the list who have the severe symptoms that I had a > couple of months ago. I hope you don't mind my post and would > appreciate any advice on how to proceed. > > Thanks for all of your support! > > Sue. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Hi there Penny, Thanks for the great email. I really appreciate that you addressed all of my concerns. This is exactly what I needed to hear. I was doing well on the anti-candida diet because I had accepted the change in lifestyle. As I felt better, my ability to tolerate certain foods threw me of course because I started thinking there may be a cure. By telling myself there may be no cure and this is a permanent lifestyle change, I can gather the strength I need to continue in the long run. My 1st liver flush was ok. I did not get too many green stones. I got a few large ones (3/4inch), a handful of pea size ones, but plenty of couscous like pellets. Therefore, I plan to try the apple juice (or) malic acid prep for one week before the next time around. I got a colonic the following day. I will get a colonic afterwards again. Maybe preceded by a massage to help me relax and make the process more effective. (I think for the price of 2 or 3 colonics, you can by a colema board - if you don't want to make your own). The epsom salts were very difficult for me to down. I closed my nose when I drank them. The bad taste only lasted a few seconds after I drank them. It did not linger. I have no trouble eating lotsa fat, so drinking the olive oil and lemon juice was no trouble at all for me. Thanks for the water advice. Maybe I'll try drinking warm water instead of tea. I'm really glad to hear that you are feeling so much better. I'm so happy for you. Keep up the great work and thanks for the valuble advice. Good luck with chelation. I have a wholistic dentist appointment on tuesday. we'll see what happens. take care, sue. > Hi Sue: > > (Sorry this is long...) > > So glad to hear you're making progress. Isn't this a wonderful site? I > have learned so much too. > > First of all, you asked what else you could do about getting your health > back. Well, it seems to me that you have most of the bases covered re the > Candida - the diet, the anti-fungals - so, you're absolutely right, what you > need now is patience. It's a slow process. But keep up the good work and > hopefully, you'll get progressively better. > > You made another comment that " the urgency of the situation has passed " and > mentioned the word " cure " . And I wondered if ou knew that there is no > " cure " for Candida since it's always in our system - you can only get it > back down to acceptable levels. And sometimes to keep Candida at bay, you > have to permanently change your eating habits or it will keep coming back - > and keep getting worse. > > I'm one of those people who have always lived to eat. Fresh, crusty > baguettes were my downfall. But after five months of " eating right " , I now > only have bread on a very special occasion. It's up there in the same > category as lobster, LOL - can't afford to have it too often. But the > wonderful thing is - after eating healthy foods for months - if I do stray > from the path for long (like this past weekend staying with friends where I > had little control over the food), I can't wait to get back to eating > yogurt and fresh veggies, yada, yada. (also - No bloating. No weight > gain). > > To address your issues with bowel movements. I forgive me for wagging my > finger at you, but you really should try to drink more water. LOL, I'm > laughing because I have the same problem. I always have a cup of tea > hanging around the house somewhere but have to almost force myself to drink > water. Well, I was at my ND day before yesterday and " we " are in the > process of chelating high levels of mercury from my system. Anyway, he > asked me how much water I drank and I counted maybe 3 and then mentioned the > tea. He just looked at me and said, " Try to drink at least 6 to 8 glasses > of plain filtered water a day " . Remember, you're trying to eliminate toxins > (dead Candida) and water is a wonderful " flusher " (s'cuse the pun). > (And besides, if you're up to 2 Tablespoons of ground flax seed, I wouldn't > think fibre was an issue. It might well be fluids.) > > And I wanted to say something about you not following s Moritz regimen > to the " T " - for instance patterns of eating and sleeping.... > > If you are making progress in your fight to feel better, then that's > wonderful. It's a hard road you have taken so congratulate yourself on your > progress (ask yourself how many people you know who could stay on the > Candida diet for a month. Ha!). And don't worry about the things you > haven't done. I too, have read s Moritz book and learned quite a bit. > But, for instance, from the moment I read the chapter on sleep patterns, I > knew that this is a step I might never be able to take. And believe me, I'm > not beating myself up over it. > > Because, as has been stated so many times here on this forum, everyone is > different and what's right for a hundred people, may not be right for me. > So I don't slavishly follow any one person's plan or advice - I learn > something from every book I read, every web site I visit - and I adopt what > feels best for me. So do what your gut tells you is right but please, no > guilt (another form of stress and Candida loves stress!!) > > I'd be interested in hearing how your first liver flush went (I've been > discussing them with my ND - I guess the Epsom salts flush is a common one). > I am considering doing some down the line but am a tad apprehensive - the > word " nausea " has been mentioned too many times in connection with liver > flushes. LOL > > Anyway Sue - congrats again on your progress and to your continued Good > Health - p > > > > > Next Level > > > > I am at an interesting stage of my healing plan. > > After: > > 1) being on a strict diet for 4 weeks > > 2) taking anti-fungals for 20 days of those four weeks > > 3) 1 Liver flush > > 4) 1 Colonic > > my symptoms have improved. > > > > I can tolerate some wheat, sugar, ... etc. (I have tried some sample > > cookies at the health food store - and I didn't die!). I can also > > tolerate nuts, which I couldn't before. But after testing each food a > > couple of times, I felt very guilty and feared the worse. So I know to > > stay away from them. > > > > I have also started eating 1 fruit (maybe 2)/day, which I enjoy very > > much. However, I still try to keep it to a minimum. My symptoms do not > > flare up as much as before and I do not have as much of a craving for > > junk food. I crave fruits and veggies mostly. I am eating the foods > > recommended for my dosha. > > > > I am still having issues with bowel movements. I have tried > > incorporating P & B shakes and flax seed meal. 1 P & B shake in the > > morning. Mixing 2 tbsp of flaxseed meal with my yoghurt. I don't have > > a desire to drink too much water, but I enjoy drinking warm tea, so I > > hope that counts as water intake ... ? No results yet, but it's only > > been a few days so I'll give it time. I started with P & B shakes about > > a week ago. Then I added flax seed meal a couple of days ago. > > > > I'm at an interesting stage of progress. I can tolerate " forbidden " > > foods better than before so it's easy to fall off the wagon. At the > > same time, I'm not fully cured. (I get vag. discomfort at least once > > daily, bloating from c., cramps every now and then). So I'm wondering > > what more I can do. > > > > I can't wait until my next liver flush, but I have to wait another > > week before I can do another one. At that point I'll be travelling, so > > I'll have to wait an additional week. > > > > I am blessed for my improvements and for learning so much from this > > list. In the past, my symptoms were so dreadful that I was so > > motivated. Now, the urgency of the situation has passed. > > > > I appreciate all the emails that were sent out about how it's > > important to love yourself and treat yourself right. I have much to do > > in that department. Also, I have not followed the andreas moritz > > timetable of when to eat and sleep. > > > > Most imortantly, I think I need patience. This does not get resolved > > over night - especially after years of self-abuse. I hesitated to > > share my " second level " difficulties with the group, because there are > > so many others on the list who have the severe symptoms that I had a > > couple of months ago. I hope you don't mind my post and would > > appreciate any advice on how to proceed. > > > > Thanks for all of your support! > > > > Sue. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Sue- If you are like me, as your liver gets cleaner, you will handle supposedly off-limits foods better and better. timing is still important, but i eat more grains now than I ever did. i just don't eat processed food. Like someone posted earlier, its really the processed food that gets people. johng > > Hi Sue: > > > > (Sorry this is long...) > > > > So glad to hear you're making progress. Isn't this a wonderful site? I > > have learned so much too. > > > > First of all, you asked what else you could do about getting your health > > back. Well, it seems to me that you have most of the bases covered > re the > > Candida - the diet, the anti-fungals - so, you're absolutely right, > what you > > need now is patience. It's a slow process. But keep up the good > work and > > hopefully, you'll get progressively better. > > > > You made another comment that " the urgency of the situation has > passed " and > > mentioned the word " cure " . And I wondered if ou knew that there is no > > " cure " for Candida since it's always in our system - you can only get it > > back down to acceptable levels. And sometimes to keep Candida at > bay, you > > have to permanently change your eating habits or it will keep coming > back - > > and keep getting worse. > > > > I'm one of those people who have always lived to eat. Fresh, crusty > > baguettes were my downfall. But after five months of " eating > right " , I now > > only have bread on a very special occasion. It's up there in the same > > category as lobster, LOL - can't afford to have it too often. But the > > wonderful thing is - after eating healthy foods for months - if I do > stray > > from the path for long (like this past weekend staying with friends > where I > > had little control over the food), I can't wait to get back to eating > > yogurt and fresh veggies, yada, yada. (also - No bloating. No weight > > gain). > > > > To address your issues with bowel movements. I forgive me for > wagging my > > finger at you, but you really should try to drink more water. LOL, I'm > > laughing because I have the same problem. I always have a cup of tea > > hanging around the house somewhere but have to almost force myself > to drink > > water. Well, I was at my ND day before yesterday and " we " are in the > > process of chelating high levels of mercury from my system. Anyway, he > > asked me how much water I drank and I counted maybe 3 and then > mentioned the > > tea. He just looked at me and said, " Try to drink at least 6 to 8 > glasses > > of plain filtered water a day " . Remember, you're trying to eliminate > toxins > > (dead Candida) and water is a wonderful " flusher " (s'cuse the pun). > > (And besides, if you're up to 2 Tablespoons of ground flax seed, I > wouldn't > > think fibre was an issue. It might well be fluids.) > > > > And I wanted to say something about you not following s Moritz > regimen > > to the " T " - for instance patterns of eating and sleeping.... > > > > If you are making progress in your fight to feel better, then that's > > wonderful. It's a hard road you have taken so congratulate yourself > on your > > progress (ask yourself how many people you know who could stay on the > > Candida diet for a month. Ha!). And don't worry about the things you > > haven't done. I too, have read s Moritz book and learned > quite a bit. > > But, for instance, from the moment I read the chapter on sleep > patterns, I > > knew that this is a step I might never be able to take. And believe > me, I'm > > not beating myself up over it. > > > > Because, as has been stated so many times here on this forum, > everyone is > > different and what's right for a hundred people, may not be right > for me. > > So I don't slavishly follow any one person's plan or advice - I learn > > something from every book I read, every web site I visit - and I > adopt what > > feels best for me. So do what your gut tells you is right but please, no > > guilt (another form of stress and Candida loves stress!!) > > > > I'd be interested in hearing how your first liver flush went (I've been > > discussing them with my ND - I guess the Epsom salts flush is a > common one). > > I am considering doing some down the line but am a tad apprehensive > - the > > word " nausea " has been mentioned too many times in connection with liver > > flushes. LOL > > > > Anyway Sue - congrats again on your progress and to your continued Good > > Health - p > > > > > > > > > > Next Level > > > > > > > I am at an interesting stage of my healing plan. > > > After: > > > 1) being on a strict diet for 4 weeks > > > 2) taking anti-fungals for 20 days of those four weeks > > > 3) 1 Liver flush > > > 4) 1 Colonic > > > my symptoms have improved. > > > > > > I can tolerate some wheat, sugar, ... etc. (I have tried some sample > > > cookies at the health food store - and I didn't die!). I can also > > > tolerate nuts, which I couldn't before. But after testing each food a > > > couple of times, I felt very guilty and feared the worse. So I know to > > > stay away from them. > > > > > > I have also started eating 1 fruit (maybe 2)/day, which I enjoy very > > > much. However, I still try to keep it to a minimum. My symptoms do not > > > flare up as much as before and I do not have as much of a craving for > > > junk food. I crave fruits and veggies mostly. I am eating the foods > > > recommended for my dosha. > > > > > > I am still having issues with bowel movements. I have tried > > > incorporating P & B shakes and flax seed meal. 1 P & B shake in the > > > morning. Mixing 2 tbsp of flaxseed meal with my yoghurt. I don't have > > > a desire to drink too much water, but I enjoy drinking warm tea, so I > > > hope that counts as water intake ... ? No results yet, but it's only > > > been a few days so I'll give it time. I started with P & B shakes about > > > a week ago. Then I added flax seed meal a couple of days ago. > > > > > > I'm at an interesting stage of progress. I can tolerate " forbidden " > > > foods better than before so it's easy to fall off the wagon. At the > > > same time, I'm not fully cured. (I get vag. discomfort at least once > > > daily, bloating from c., cramps every now and then). So I'm wondering > > > what more I can do. > > > > > > I can't wait until my next liver flush, but I have to wait another > > > week before I can do another one. At that point I'll be travelling, so > > > I'll have to wait an additional week. > > > > > > I am blessed for my improvements and for learning so much from this > > > list. In the past, my symptoms were so dreadful that I was so > > > motivated. Now, the urgency of the situation has passed. > > > > > > I appreciate all the emails that were sent out about how it's > > > important to love yourself and treat yourself right. I have much to do > > > in that department. Also, I have not followed the andreas moritz > > > timetable of when to eat and sleep. > > > > > > Most imortantly, I think I need patience. This does not get resolved > > > over night - especially after years of self-abuse. I hesitated to > > > share my " second level " difficulties with the group, because there are > > > so many others on the list who have the severe symptoms that I had a > > > couple of months ago. I hope you don't mind my post and would > > > appreciate any advice on how to proceed. > > > > > > Thanks for all of your support! > > > > > > Sue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2004 Report Share Posted February 28, 2004 Thanks . That's very hopeful news. This has definitely been an educational experience about proper / good nutrition. > > > Hi Sue: > > > > > > (Sorry this is long...) > > > > > > So glad to hear you're making progress. Isn't this a wonderful > site? I > > > have learned so much too. > > > > > > First of all, you asked what else you could do about getting your > health > > > back. Well, it seems to me that you have most of the bases > covered > > re the > > > Candida - the diet, the anti-fungals - so, you're absolutely > right, > > what you > > > need now is patience. It's a slow process. But keep up the good > > work and > > > hopefully, you'll get progressively better. > > > > > > You made another comment that " the urgency of the situation has > > passed " and > > > mentioned the word " cure " . And I wondered if ou knew that there > is no > > > " cure " for Candida since it's always in our system - you can only > get it > > > back down to acceptable levels. And sometimes to keep Candida at > > bay, you > > > have to permanently change your eating habits or it will keep > coming > > back - > > > and keep getting worse. > > > > > > I'm one of those people who have always lived to eat. Fresh, > crusty > > > baguettes were my downfall. But after five months of " eating > > right " , I now > > > only have bread on a very special occasion. It's up there in > the same > > > category as lobster, LOL - can't afford to have it too often. > But the > > > wonderful thing is - after eating healthy foods for months - if I > do > > stray > > > from the path for long (like this past weekend staying with > friends > > where I > > > had little control over the food), I can't wait to get back to > eating > > > yogurt and fresh veggies, yada, yada. (also - No bloating. No > weight > > > gain). > > > > > > To address your issues with bowel movements. I forgive me for > > wagging my > > > finger at you, but you really should try to drink more water. > LOL, I'm > > > laughing because I have the same problem. I always have a cup of > tea > > > hanging around the house somewhere but have to almost force myself > > to drink > > > water. Well, I was at my ND day before yesterday and " we " are in > the > > > process of chelating high levels of mercury from my system. > Anyway, he > > > asked me how much water I drank and I counted maybe 3 and then > > mentioned the > > > tea. He just looked at me and said, " Try to drink at least 6 to 8 > > glasses > > > of plain filtered water a day " . Remember, you're trying to > eliminate > > toxins > > > (dead Candida) and water is a wonderful " flusher " (s'cuse the > pun). > > > (And besides, if you're up to 2 Tablespoons of ground flax seed, I > > wouldn't > > > think fibre was an issue. It might well be fluids.) > > > > > > And I wanted to say something about you not following s > Moritz > > regimen > > > to the " T " - for instance patterns of eating and sleeping.... > > > > > > If you are making progress in your fight to feel better, then > that's > > > wonderful. It's a hard road you have taken so congratulate > yourself > > on your > > > progress (ask yourself how many people you know who could stay on > the > > > Candida diet for a month. Ha!). And don't worry about the > things you > > > haven't done. I too, have read s Moritz book and learned > > quite a bit. > > > But, for instance, from the moment I read the chapter on sleep > > patterns, I > > > knew that this is a step I might never be able to take. And > believe > > me, I'm > > > not beating myself up over it. > > > > > > Because, as has been stated so many times here on this forum, > > everyone is > > > different and what's right for a hundred people, may not be right > > for me. > > > So I don't slavishly follow any one person's plan or advice - I > learn > > > something from every book I read, every web site I visit - and I > > adopt what > > > feels best for me. So do what your gut tells you is right but > please, no > > > guilt (another form of stress and Candida loves stress!!) > > > > > > I'd be interested in hearing how your first liver flush went > (I've been > > > discussing them with my ND - I guess the Epsom salts flush is a > > common one). > > > I am considering doing some down the line but am a tad > apprehensive > > - the > > > word " nausea " has been mentioned too many times in connection > with liver > > > flushes. LOL > > > > > > Anyway Sue - congrats again on your progress and to your > continued Good > > > Health - p > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next Level > > > > > > > > > > I am at an interesting stage of my healing plan. > > > > After: > > > > 1) being on a strict diet for 4 weeks > > > > 2) taking anti-fungals for 20 days of those four weeks > > > > 3) 1 Liver flush > > > > 4) 1 Colonic > > > > my symptoms have improved. > > > > > > > > I can tolerate some wheat, sugar, ... etc. (I have tried some > sample > > > > cookies at the health food store - and I didn't die!). I can > also > > > > tolerate nuts, which I couldn't before. But after testing each > food a > > > > couple of times, I felt very guilty and feared the worse. So I > know to > > > > stay away from them. > > > > > > > > I have also started eating 1 fruit (maybe 2)/day, which I enjoy > very > > > > much. However, I still try to keep it to a minimum. My symptoms > do not > > > > flare up as much as before and I do not have as much of a > craving for > > > > junk food. I crave fruits and veggies mostly. I am eating the > foods > > > > recommended for my dosha. > > > > > > > > I am still having issues with bowel movements. I have tried > > > > incorporating P & B shakes and flax seed meal. 1 P & B shake in the > > > > morning. Mixing 2 tbsp of flaxseed meal with my yoghurt. I > don't have > > > > a desire to drink too much water, but I enjoy drinking warm > tea, so I > > > > hope that counts as water intake ... ? No results yet, but it's > only > > > > been a few days so I'll give it time. I started with P & B shakes > about > > > > a week ago. Then I added flax seed meal a couple of days ago. > > > > > > > > I'm at an interesting stage of progress. I can > tolerate " forbidden " > > > > foods better than before so it's easy to fall off the wagon. At > the > > > > same time, I'm not fully cured. (I get vag. discomfort at least > once > > > > daily, bloating from c., cramps every now and then). So I'm > wondering > > > > what more I can do. > > > > > > > > I can't wait until my next liver flush, but I have to wait > another > > > > week before I can do another one. At that point I'll be > travelling, so > > > > I'll have to wait an additional week. > > > > > > > > I am blessed for my improvements and for learning so much from > this > > > > list. In the past, my symptoms were so dreadful that I was so > > > > motivated. Now, the urgency of the situation has passed. > > > > > > > > I appreciate all the emails that were sent out about how it's > > > > important to love yourself and treat yourself right. I have > much to do > > > > in that department. Also, I have not followed the andreas moritz > > > > timetable of when to eat and sleep. > > > > > > > > Most imortantly, I think I need patience. This does not get > resolved > > > > over night - especially after years of self-abuse. I hesitated > to > > > > share my " second level " difficulties with the group, because > there are > > > > so many others on the list who have the severe symptoms that I > had a > > > > couple of months ago. I hope you don't mind my post and would > > > > appreciate any advice on how to proceed. > > > > > > > > Thanks for all of your support! > > > > > > > > Sue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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