, question on tofu

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GiGi,

It just makes sense that yes, the natural estrogen in soy and yams would not

be the best thing for children, especially since little girls who are

pre-puberty age don't utilize estrogen and therefore don't secrete it until

their sexual characteristics are to be formed, that is, their curves, and

all the other feminine characteristics that come along with the onset of

their menstruation. So, soy and yam sources of estrogen would be a very

unnatural thing and probably harmful at that age. But a little bit probably

would not hurt, that is, say once or twice a month, I guess.

To be sure, ask a naturopathic doctor. There is more to the subject. I

hope your computer gets repaired so you can read the article your

acupuncturist sent you.

Yes, your eating tofu the way you describe shouldn't be a problem. The

research that was done several years ago was done on a group of elderly

oriental men, who ate tofu and other sources of uncultured soy on a regular

basis, that is, 3-5 times a week. They developed brain atrophy as a result,

because the excessive phytates blocked important protein used in brain

function. But a little tofu here and there won't hurt.

I used to make a lot of 'tempeh pizza.' It's delicious. Just take the

slabs of tempeh, slice them length-wise, place them in a ceramic pan, about

9x12 " or thereabouts, which has been coated with olive oil. Then, just put

on typical pizza toppings, with lots of garlic. Add Italian seasonings.

And it is DELICIOUS and GOOD FOR YOU, TOO. Remember, TEMPEH is a CULTURED

soy product. Try the recipe and let me know how you like it!! Goes great

with a big green salad.

I love miso soup, too. Should eat more of it.

~

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Message: 1

Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:55:39 -0800 (PST)

From: GiGi Hein <nydio@...>

Subject: , question on tofu

,

Thanks for the info on soy. I was wondering. Did you here it was not good

because of the natural estrogen in soy and yams...I just wondered. My

accupuncturist once sent me a large research article on teh subject but my

computer crashed and it was saved there. It especially noted as not being

good for children in large doses as it was too much estrogen.

Thanks if you know the answer..or anyone else. I have limited my tofu to

occasionally. I love it browned with garlic and toasted sesame oil and

coconut oil with veggies.

gigi

--- D'Amico <dove003@...> wrote:

>

> The thing on soy is this: The cultured ones

> are good for you, like tempeh,

> nouri, miso, and another one I can't think of.

> These cultured ones have

> less 'phytates' which block the absorption of

> protein, so no worries there.

> But the straight, uncultured ones like tofu,

> are loaded with phytates, so

> you should eat them only in moderation, say

> once to four times per month.

[Guest guest]

There is some info on soy here that might be of interest:

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/

Bruce

From: " D'Amico "

> GiGi,

>

> It just makes sense that yes, the natural estrogen in soy and yams would not

> be the best thing for children,

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/29/04 9:49:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, dove003@... writes:

So, soy and yam sources of estrogen would be a very

unnatural thing and probably harmful at that age. But a little bit probably

would not hurt, that is, say once or twice a month, I guess.

Let's not forget that Soy is a Genetically Modified food. So in any state you are not eating the "original" food.

So for all of us that are avoiding the enfoods, soy is a big no no!

Hanida

[Guest guest]

,

I dont know if I have seen Tempeh. Is it packaged like tofu? I will ask at the food coop next time I go. Sounds great. My boyfriend makes this awesome bushetta (spelling it wrong I am sure) cut up tomatoes lots of garlic, fresh basil and olive oil. He does put cheese in it but I have been having him leave it out for me in a portion of it. Sounds like that would be awesome on the tempeh.

Looking forward to finding it and trying it.

gigi D'Amico <dove003@...> wrote:

GiGi,It just makes sense that yes, the natural estrogen in soy and yams would notbe the best thing for children, especially since little girls who arepre-puberty age don't utilize estrogen and therefore don't secrete it untiltheir sexual characteristics are to be formed, that is, their curves, andall the other feminine characteristics that come along with the onset oftheir menstruation. So, soy and yam sources of estrogen would be a veryunnatural thing and probably harmful at that age. But a little bit probablywould not hurt, that is, say once or twice a month, I guess.To be sure, ask a naturopathic doctor. There is more to the subject. Ihope your computer gets repaired so you can read the article youracupuncturist sent you.Yes, your eating tofu the way you describe shouldn't be a problem.

Theresearch that was done several years ago was done on a group of elderlyoriental men, who ate tofu and other sources of uncultured soy on a regularbasis, that is, 3-5 times a week. They developed brain atrophy as a result,because the excessive phytates blocked important protein used in brainfunction. But a little tofu here and there won't hurt.I used to make a lot of 'tempeh pizza.' It's delicious. Just take theslabs of tempeh, slice them length-wise, place them in a ceramic pan, about9x12" or thereabouts, which has been coated with olive oil. Then, just puton typical pizza toppings, with lots of garlic. Add Italian seasonings.And it is DELICIOUS and GOOD FOR YOU, TOO. Remember, TEMPEH is a CULTUREDsoy product. Try the recipe and let me know how you like it!! Goes greatwith a big green salad.I love miso soup, too. Should eat more of

it.~________________________________________________________________________Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:55:39 -0800 (PST) From: GiGi Hein <nydio@...>Subject: , question on tofu,Thanks for the info on soy. I was wondering. Did you here it was not goodbecause of the natural estrogen in soy and yams...I just wondered. Myaccupuncturist once sent me a large research article on teh subject but mycomputer crashed and it was saved there. It especially noted as not beinggood for children in large doses as it was too much estrogen.Thanks if you know the answer..or anyone else. I have limited my tofu tooccasionally. I love it browned with garlic and toasted sesame oil andcoconut oil with veggies.gigi--- D'Amico <dove003@...> wrote:>> The thing on soy is this: The cultured ones> are good for you,

like tempeh,> nouri, miso, and another one I can't think of.> These cultured ones have> less 'phytates' which block the absorption of> protein, so no worries there.> But the straight, uncultured ones like tofu,> are loaded with phytates, so> you should eat them only in moderation, say> once to four times per month.

[Guest guest]

Is the fact that soy is

GM the only problem with it? Cos in Australia most soy products contain only non-GM soy beans. There seems to be

a lot of confusion on whether soy is the greatest thing ever or really bad –

anyone?

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In a message dated 3/29/04 9:49:57 PM

Eastern Standard Time, dove003@... writes:

So, soy and yam sources

of estrogen would be a very

unnatural thing and probably harmful at that age. But a little bit

probably

would not hurt, that is, say once or twice a month, I guess.

Let's not forget that Soy is a Genetically Modified food. So in any state

you are not eating the " original " food.

So for all of us that are avoiding the enfoods, soy is a big no no!

Hanida

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