Guest guest Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 > What about onions, can you blend garlic and onions into your fermented food. I like the taste of garlic in fermented foods, and think it is very healthful, I use onions too. > Is fermented food allowed on the candida diet? Fermented foods are not allowed on some versions of anti candida diets. Many people do include probiotic ferments as part of their anti-candida strategy though. I think the older versions of the anti-candida diets are the ones that prohibit fermented foods more. Personally I think fermented vegetables and dairy ferments are excellent for bowel health and nutrition in general. > I've been making fermented cabbage but without the garlic or onions, just cabbage and water. Cool, what sort of method do you use? > Would adding garlic and cabbage make the lactic bacteria stronger or grow faster? I don't think they grow any stronger or faster really. The garlic is supposed to help inhibit the growth of spoilage organisms though so it gives the beneficial bacteria a leg up that way. regards, Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 > That's interesting about the garlic inhibiting the growth of spoilage > organisms because I always worry about if I'm eating beneficial bacteria or > bad bacteria or yeast when I eat fermented food You can be pretty sure with a vegetable ferment that has cabbage in it that you will have beneficial bacteria. If your fermented vegetables have a bad smell or are slimey or otherwise unpalatable then you will know the fermentation went wrong somewhere and the lactic acid bacteria didn't win out over the spoilage organisms. If it tastes good it should be good for you and have the beneficial bacteria as the predominant population in the ferment. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Greetings Regarding Fermented foods topic: I have just made a folder in the files and links section in the folder " Body Ecology Diet " Kefir might go in there too... Just a thought!!! nieema ===== I hope this message finds you and yours in the best of Health and Spirit. Our Health is Our Responsibility http://www.a-healing-village.com nieema Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 > I have just made a folder in the files and links > section in the folder " Body Ecology Diet " > > Kefir might go in there too... > > > Just a thought!!! > > One thing about the body ecology stuff is that they promote using their " starter " to make kefir instead of using " real " kefir grains to make " real kefir " . Making kefir and having your grains growing is cool. : -) Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Greetings all Sorry, I did not know that the term body ecology was only for the people you are speaking of. I will make a folder in the morning, my morning Any suggestions on what to call it? nieema --- Bruce Stordock <stordock@...> wrote: > > I have just made a folder in the files and links > > section in the folder " Body Ecology Diet " > > Kefir might go in there too... > One thing about the body ecology stuff is that they > promote using their " starter " > to make kefir instead of using " real " kefir grains > to make " real kefir " . > Making kefir and having your grains growing is cool. > : -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 > Sorry, I did not know that the term body ecology was > only for the people you are speaking of. > Nieema, I don't really know much about the " body ecology diet " except that that is the name of a diet and lifestyle type book. From what info I have run across it's probably pretty ok to good sort of stuff but, like Atkins, there seem to be lots of people making products and selling stuff for people to buy who are adherents to the diet. It's kind of commercial is all, most likely " Body Ecology Diet " would be a trademark of some sort and licensing agreements etc. seem to well exploited. It bugs me too that Dr. Mercola for instance and other people who seem to be concerned with helping people with their health problems sell the more profitable " body ecology " kefir starter instead of telling people about the real kefir grains which are so wonderful. \end rant : -) regards, Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 > >>>I just put chopped cabbage in a jar and add water and leave it out at room temperature for a couple days. Thats interesting about the garlic inhibiting the growth of spoilage organisms because I always worry about if I'm eating beneficial bacteria or bad bacteria or yeast when I eat fermented food > > >Cool, what sort of method do you use? > >Would adding garlic and cabbage make the lactic bacteria stronger or grow faster? > >I don't think they grow any stronger or faster really. The garlic is supposed to help inhibit the growth of spoilage organisms though so it gives the beneficial bacteria a leg up that way. > > regards, Bruce Just wanted to mention that garlic helps the fermentation go faster because it actually supplies inulin, a type of sugar that the bacteria like to feed off. It's one of the reasons why kimchi ferments so much faster than sauerkraut. Hello to Bruce, who was the very first member of the Microbial Nutrition group it just now occurred to me to promote here! Mike SE Pennsylvania The best way to predict the future is to invent it. --Alan Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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