Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 I seriously doubt a class action is going to succeed simply because a marketing company doesn't recommend you take ThreeLac for less than six months, even if the manufacturer says so. I also seriously doubt ThreeLac really is unsafe to take for more than six months anyway even though the mfg is clearly doing a 'better safe than sorry' CYA approach like everybody in the industry does. Enterococcus faecealis is well known as a natural bowel organism in many species. The tiny dose you'd be taking daily is not enough to populate 1/2 of one cc of fecal matter, it gets shit out with the rest anyway, and in a healthy bowel ecology E. faecealis will be suppressed and held in check just like the rest, regardless of how long you take it for, even if the dose being much larger than would populate 1/2 of one cc. In other words the defendant will say, and be quite correct, that you had to have a bad bowel ecology in the first place for any bowel fluorish of enterococcus faecealis to occur in numbers outside the normal spectrum, and you can't prove the fluorish was outside the normal range. You alo can't prove any fluorish is the result of the tiny amount of E. faecialis you ate every day, because we all know about FEEDING certain bowel organisms and we all know that all it takes is a bad diet to encourage that fluorish, which is in magnitudes higher numbers than the pitifully small numbers of E. faecialis you take in a probiotic.... That bad diet that led to the fluorish is YOUR fault if you get a E. faecialis fluorish, not theirs. A good diet does not lead to a fluorish of this particular organism. If infection occurs, and that is rare too, it has escaped the bowel lumen and infected you due to a low or suppressed immune system, not the organism, which always was present in the first place in fairly high numbers. Many, many organisms in the gut could cause infection; your immune system is at its densest in tissues around the gut lining pecisely because a few get out all the time. I don't know about the USA, but in Canada you have to show actual damage in order to press a damage suit. That's why it's called " suing for damages " . The only way you could do that is show that exact strain, by DNA markers, caused your infection. But in this case the E. faecialis is NOT a genetically modified proprietary organism you can trace like that. In other words, it could have come from kissing your dog and all the defendant has to show is reasonable doubt. Murray's post smacks of agenda; to me anyway, she clearly aims to leverage your suspicion (and perhaps your ignorance) to sell her product. Even though I don't recommend TheeLac because it doen't work very well, I find the tactic, not the product, to be disgusting. Let's get to the ingredients. QUOTE: " ProBio5TM contains Lactobacillus Sporogenes, L. Acidophillus, L. Plantarum, B. Longum, S. Boulardi " . Further, the claim elsewhere on the site QUOTE: " ProBio5TM contains NO sugar or yeasts " is an outright lie, as it's listed in the ingredients. They didn't even spell boulardii, which is baker's yeast, correctly on their own site HAW HAW! So the active ingredient is a single bifidobacteria species, B. longum. The three species of lactobacillus hardly makes ProBio5TM a eye-opener (but perhaps I've shown it's an eyebrow RAISER, Huh?). Given that its a very weak probiotic anyway at 375 million CFU total organisms, and that we don't need the lactobacilli strains OR the S. Boulardii at that, the only really truthful thing Kim posted is that it is probably safe to use forever (and that's how long it would take, too . Beware the agenda sites, and please realize Murray has posted on this list before with the same agenda, to tout her inferior product. Actually, inferior is a kind word to use to describe ProBio5TM; we already have mentioned many better probiotic products on this list, and many people with integrity could use the business. Please write to Kim and give her some feedbck. You can forward my post if you like; copyright waived. Duncan Crow > > There may be a class action lawsuit you can bring against Global Health Trax because they were told by the mfg of Threelac that it is UNSAFE to take for a period of time longer than 6 months. Also, ThreeLac contains Enterococcus Faecalis which can cause urinary tract infections and causes immunity to antibiotics. > > Go to www.nutritionspecialties.com for a safe, effective product that you can take on a daily basis that has excellent results. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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