Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 In a message dated 8/1/2006 10:12:06 A.M. Central Standard Time, EyreFamily@... writes: almond milk rice hot cereal grapes applegate hotdog refried beans half a almond butter and jam sandwich a kiwi handful of baby carrots cup of potato chips brown rice with ground beef and asparagus for dinner. ON YOUR CARBS: If you do some carbs.... my advice is go for WHOLE or sprouted grains/legumes. Instead of processed rice hot cereal.... Cook up some organic brown rice and use as a cereal. (This can be frozen and be reheated). Make your own beans (previously soaked) in a crock pot. (Again as this is a longer process you can make a lot and freeze in portion sizes). Ughhhh!!!!!!!!! NO potato chips!!! If you have potatoes in your diet then bake up some red potatoes. (Don't fry!) In fact, try to eat fried food as little as possible. VEGETABLES: I don't see much in your diet. Perhaps limiting your Rice to once per day and adding a BIG Salad with your dinner. The more raw vegetables the better. These are considered live healing foods. Remember: processed & packaged foods is what damaged health in the first place. With your beans you could use a smaller portions and add to a very big salad for lunch. Carrots have mixed reviews. They are the most sugary of vegetables but on the other hand they also are an antifungal. My philosophy is rotate your vegetables with lots and lots of greens. You can't go wrong with raw green vegetables as they are good for everything. Try some raw celery with your almond butter. When I have fruit now, I do not mix it with any other foods and eat it on an empty stomach. Again ... no processed hotdogs. If you need lunch meat then make a roast or chicken and slice up your own. (This can also be frozen and reheated). It's really difficult for people to change their diet and our environment really doesn't support simplicity in eating. Don't get discouraged just make as many changes as you can and know that as you progress it will get easier. Hope that helps! =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Beth wrote: >>>Please help me with my diet and tell me what you think I should change and add. I have been gluten free, casein free and soy free for 5 months now. Here's what I ate yesterday: almond milk rice hot cereal grapes applegate hotdog refried beans half a almond butter and jam sandwich a kiwi handful of baby carrots cup of potato chips brown rice with ground beef and asparagus for dinner.<<< Beth, I'm anxious to see what the other more experienced folks have to say. I know that the naturopath I am working with on my Candida diet says no fruit at all, no nut products, no cured meat (hotdog) and no potato. The only " starch " I can have is rice and rice products. Basically my diet says no sugar including fruit, no dairy, no nuts, no soy, rice as the only grain, no lentils, no alcohol. Patti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 As i am concern, i dont eat any fruits... they recommand that in the severe case, for the first and/or not second month... I dont eat any bread too... almond milk is rich in carbonydrate, so sugar... they more recommand soymilk... and, in some diet, they recommand to not eat for the first and/ornot second month, carrot, potatoes...for the same reason.. " carbonhydrate " sooo... Hope it will be helpful for you... i'm not a doctor, it's my own advice and what i do... Good luck > > I have had chronic yeast problems for many years, including thrush on > my breast from nursing. I have also suffered from eczema my whole > life. I'm tracking my symptoms and they seem to be associated with > my cycle. My eczema is so bad right now that I'm trying to change my > diet and it has definitely helped but I'm still getting vaginal > infections as well as thrush. > > Please help me with my diet and tell me what you think I should > change and add. I have been gluten free, casein free and soy free > for 5 months now. Here's what I ate yesterday: > > almond milk > rice hot cereal > grapes > applegate hotdog > refried beans > half a almond butter and jam sandwich > a kiwi > handful of baby carrots > cup of potato chips > brown rice with ground beef and asparagus for dinner. > > I'm going out today and buying the aloe juice everyone's been talking > about. I had to stop the OLE because I got these huge burns/red > patches on my body from it. At least I think that's where it's from. > > Thank you for any feedback you might have for me! > Sincerely itchy, > Beth > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Hi Beth, I took a look at your diet and made some responses below. Right off the bat though I notice you are still eating a lot of sugars and carbs. > Please help me with my diet and tell me what you think I should > change and add. I have been gluten free, casein free and soy free > for 5 months now. Here's what I ate yesterday: > > almond milk Most likely has sugar added? > rice hot cereal Pure carbs and converted into sugars in your gut. > grapes Pure sugar. > applegate hotdog Good choice. I've been eating these lately too - I like the chicken ones. > refried beans These are probably fine. > half a almond butter and jam sandwich Jam = sugar. > a kiwi Again, very sugary. > handful of baby carrots A sugary vegetable. Look at the nutritional information on there, and you will there is like 6 grams of sugar per serving. > cup of potato chips Again these are pure refined carbs and converted into sugar. > brown rice with ground beef and asparagus for dinner. Good choice. Brown rice is technically a carb, but its one of the best ones. Better than white rice for sure. If you could skip the rice and do a salad instead, that would be ideal. As far as modifications go, I would recommend more vegetables and less fruits, sugars, and carbs. It took me a while to realize that simple carbs like rice and potato chips are converted into sugar in your gut, and thus should be avoided. I live on: - Salads! There's an Annie's Lemon and Chive salad dressing that is vinegar free. Its the only one I've found! - Meats - chicken, beef, turkey, hotdogs (get the ones without sugar added!) - Thai food when I have to go out. Stir fried veggies, chicken, etc. Hope this helps! _jason_ _________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 But, is there not an anomaly here. Rice (white especially?) is, as you say, very starchy, as are all grains. Doesn't starch convert to sugars, so loved by the candida bug?! So my thoughts (please correct me) on Beth's diet are - almond milk- presumably good rice hot cereal - rice=starch=sugar? grapes = fruit = sugar applegate hotdog = ! Full of chemicals, spices and other things strongly not recomended for Candida diet refried beans - refried in what and how stored? half a almond butter and jam sandwich - jam! sandwich made with bread = wheat (grain)? a kiwi = fruit = sugar handful of baby carrots - Carrots are amongst the most sugary veg? cup of potato chips - potatoes and what type of fat? brown rice with ground beef and asparagus for dinner - rice again (OK brown not as bad but still surely starchy). These comments I've gleaned from this list over a considerable time and www.wholeapproach.com ( www.wholeapproach.com/diet/WholeApproach_Food_List.pdf ) and others. The > only " starch " I can have is rice and rice products. > > Basically my diet says no sugar including fruit, no dairy, no nuts, no > soy, > rice as the only grain, no lentils, no alcohol. > > Patti > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 >>>But, is there not an anomaly here. Rice (white especially?) is, as you say, very starchy, as are all grains. Doesn't starch convert to sugars, so loved by the candida bug?!<<< Yes, although I'm told to use brown and wild not white. It's the only carbish thing I'm allowed to have (no wheat or gluten products) and no corn, carrots, etc. I will endeavor to limit as much as possible. My naturopath has found with this diet and the supplements she prescribes, people have very good luck resolving their Candida problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 from what I read kiwi is permissable as it has very little sugar <estg@...> wrote: But, is there not an anomaly here. Rice (white especially?) is, as you say, very starchy, as are all grains. Doesn't starch convert to sugars, so loved by the candida bug?! So my thoughts (please correct me) on Beth's diet are - almond milk- presumably good rice hot cereal - rice=starch=sugar? grapes = fruit = sugar applegate hotdog = ! Full of chemicals, spices and other things strongly not recomended for Candida diet refried beans - refried in what and how stored? half a almond butter and jam sandwich - jam! sandwich made with bread = wheat (grain)? a kiwi = fruit = sugar handful of baby carrots - Carrots are amongst the most sugary veg? cup of potato chips - potatoes and what type of fat? brown rice with ground beef and asparagus for dinner - rice again (OK brown not as bad but still surely starchy). These comments I've gleaned from this list over a considerable time and www.wholeapproach.com ( www.wholeapproach.com/diet/WholeApproach_Food_List.pdf ) and others. The > only " starch " I can have is rice and rice products. > > Basically my diet says no sugar including fruit, no dairy, no nuts, no > soy, > rice as the only grain, no lentils, no alcohol. > > Patti > --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 my dietician told me that if you limit your diet too severely, it is hard to recover. Patti Cassalia <pcassalia@...> wrote: >>>But, is there not an anomaly here. Rice (white especially?) is, as you say, very starchy, as are all grains. Doesn't starch convert to sugars, so loved by the candida bug?!<<< Yes, although I'm told to use brown and wild not white. It's the only carbish thing I'm allowed to have (no wheat or gluten products) and no corn, carrots, etc. I will endeavor to limit as much as possible. My naturopath has found with this diet and the supplements she prescribes, people have very good luck resolving their Candida problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 >>>from what I read kiwi is permissable as it has very little sugar As a newbie who is just starting out on this journey I have to say the more I read the more confused I get. :-) Between wholeapproach.com, .org, about.com, johndommissemd.com, etc, there is so much conflicting info out there on what IS the appropriate diet to eliminate candida. Some say yes to soy, other say no. Some say yes to nuts, others say no. Some say yes to dairy cheese as long as you eat it hot, some say no dairy at all. What have all of you done that has worked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Just a thought for dealing with strict diets: I have been eating a lot of celery lately. I really don't care for the taste but it helps fill you up! Ha! The organic celery tastes a lot better than the regular. Alison. <http://geo./serv?s=97359714 & grpId=122939 & grpspId=1602032824 & msgId= 46891 & stime=1154450103 & nc1=3848443 & nc2=2 & nc3=3> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 >>>my dietician told me that if you limit your diet too severely, it is hard to recover.<<< So what do you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 I was strict for awhile but no longer as strict. Patti Cassalia <pcassalia@...> wrote: >>>my dietician told me that if you limit your diet too severely, it is hard to recover.<<< So what do you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 >>>I was strict for awhile but no longer as strict. What have you added back in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 I avoid processed sugar and most starches and dairy. I have some fruit for fiber and also beans. I am not as well as I could be but I am trying. I don't believe you can get all your nutrients from vitamins because I have read they are not fully absorbed. Leigh Patti Cassalia <pcassalia@...> wrote: >>>my dietician told me that if you limit your diet too severely, it is hard to recover.<<< So what do you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Thanks for all your feedback Leigh. I think I'm going to miss dairy the most (milk for my latte and cheese!). Also, my diet excludes hummus because it excludes garbanzo beans and lentils. Any idea why? Is this a fermented or mold thing? _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of Leigh McCall-Alton Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 10:48 AM candidiasis Subject: RE: Please critique my diet- thank you! I avoid processed sugar and most starches and dairy. I have some fruit for fiber and also beans. I am not as well as I could be but I am trying. I don't believe you can get all your nutrients from vitamins because I have read they are not fully absorbed. Leigh Patti Cassalia <pcassalia@sbcglobal <mailto:pcassalia%40sbcglobal.net> .net> wrote: >>>my dietician told me that if you limit your diet too severely, it is hard to recover.<<< So what do you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 On 8/1/06 11:02 AM, " Leigh McCall-Alton " <mccallalton@...> wrote: > I don't know but I think the garlic in hummus is good for you. Hummus can be good. I like the 's brand - no vinegar or anything bad, and it's yummy! Available @ natural food stores... _jason_ _________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Hi Patti My husband and I have managed to get our candida under control by eating mostly just brown rice, vegetables (excluding sweet potato and sweet corn) and chicken breast. We have leaky gut and IBS as well, so we cannot eat many of the things on the normal anti-candida diet. Brown rice has not been a problem for us. Keen RE: Please critique my diet- thank you! >>>But, is there not an anomaly here. Rice (white especially?) is, as you say, very starchy, as are all grains. Doesn't starch convert to sugars, so loved by the candida bug?!<<< Yes, although I'm told to use brown and wild not white. It's the only carbish thing I'm allowed to have (no wheat or gluten products) and no corn, carrots, etc. I will endeavor to limit as much as possible. My naturopath has found with this diet and the supplements she prescribes, people have very good luck resolving their Candida problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Okay, here is my critique: Please critique my diet- thank you! <<I have had chronic yeast problems for many years, including thrush on my breast from nursing. I have also suffered from eczema my whole life. I'm tracking my symptoms and they seem to be associated with my cycle. My eczema is so bad right now that I'm trying to change my diet and it has definitely helped but I'm still getting vaginal infections as well as thrush. Please help me with my diet and tell me what you think I should change and add. I have been gluten free, casein free and soy free for 5 months now. Here's what I ate yesterday:>> <<almond milk>> - did you read the label - what is in it? <<rice hot cereal>> - prepackaged? Make your own brown rice rather <<grapes >> - one of the most sugary fruits around - you should avoid for at least the first 3 - 6 months of your diet <<applegate hotdog>> - processed foods are a killer. Do you know what goes into a processed hot dog? Try googling and you will never touch them again <<refried beans>> - home made? If not, did you check the label, what is in them? <<half a almond butter and jam sandwich>> - jam? That is nothing but sugar. And white bread? Also pure sugar. Both to be avoided until after the candida problems have gone (3months to 2 years) <<a kiwi>> - also very sweet <<handful of baby carrots>> - they should be fine, lots of antioxidants and such in carrots, but was that all the veggies you ate for the whole day? <<cup of potato chips>> - do you know what is in chips? Chemicals in the oil, chemicals in the potatoes, chemical flavourants, chemical anti-oxidants and lots of nasty oil to boot. Do not eat - ever again, preferably. Make your own potato chips by slicing potatoes very finely and frying at a very high temperature until crispy. <<brown rice with ground beef and asparagus for dinner.>> - your only good meal. <<I'm going out today and buying the aloe juice everyone's been talking about. I had to stop the OLE because I got these huge burns/red patches on my body from it. At least I think that's where it's from. Thank you for any feedback you might have for me! Sincerely itchy, Beth>> I understand it is difficult to change the way you live, but until you do, you will not get better. Processed foods must not be eaten, they are very bad for your body and they contain things that suppress your immune system. What you are trying to do is boost your immune system and get control of your body again. What you eat should be your medicine, you should do a lot of googling about what is in food and the dangers. It will scare you - it did me! You should eat only foods that are as similar to the way they were first grown as possible. Only by vegetables and meat and make everything yourself from scratch. Yes, it takes time - I spend at least 2 hours a night cooking for dinner and the next day's breakfast and lunch. I take food to work so that I am never hungry and tempted to eat what I shouldn't. When we first started this diet, we gave away everything in our house that we couldn't eat and we just don't buy it. If you don't have it, you can't eat it. Good luck! Keen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 You shouldn't be eating pre-prepared salad dressings. You should rather make your own dressing from olive oil and lemon juice. It's much healthier and much tastier and you know what you are eating at least. Keen Re: Please critique my diet- thank you! Hi Beth, I took a look at your diet and made some responses below. Right off the bat though I notice you are still eating a lot of sugars and carbs. > Please help me with my diet and tell me what you think I should > change and add. I have been gluten free, casein free and soy free > for 5 months now. Here's what I ate yesterday: > > almond milk Most likely has sugar added? > rice hot cereal Pure carbs and converted into sugars in your gut. > grapes Pure sugar. > applegate hotdog Good choice. I've been eating these lately too - I like the chicken ones. > refried beans These are probably fine. > half a almond butter and jam sandwich Jam = sugar. > a kiwi Again, very sugary. > handful of baby carrots A sugary vegetable. Look at the nutritional information on there, and you will there is like 6 grams of sugar per serving. > cup of potato chips Again these are pure refined carbs and converted into sugar. > brown rice with ground beef and asparagus for dinner. Good choice. Brown rice is technically a carb, but its one of the best ones. Better than white rice for sure. If you could skip the rice and do a salad instead, that would be ideal. As far as modifications go, I would recommend more vegetables and less fruits, sugars, and carbs. It took me a while to realize that simple carbs like rice and potato chips are converted into sugar in your gut, and thus should be avoided. I live on: - Salads! There's an Annie's Lemon and Chive salad dressing that is vinegar free. Its the only one I've found! - Meats - chicken, beef, turkey, hotdogs (get the ones without sugar added!) - Thai food when I have to go out. Stir fried veggies, chicken, etc. Hope this helps! _jason_ _________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 There are no hard and fast rules as different people have different approaches. I've also found it very confusing, but the best way we found to work out what to eat was to experiment. It can be painful (and has been), but you learn pretty quickly what your body will and will not tolerate. That way you have a diet that you know works for you. Keen RE: Please critique my diet- thank you! >>>from what I read kiwi is permissable as it has very little sugar As a newbie who is just starting out on this journey I have to say the more I read the more confused I get. :-) Between wholeapproach.com, .org, about.com, johndommissemd.com, etc, there is so much conflicting info out there on what IS the appropriate diet to eliminate candida. Some say yes to soy, other say no. Some say yes to nuts, others say no. Some say yes to dairy cheese as long as you eat it hot, some say no dairy at all. What have all of you done that has worked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 I have no idea why your diet excludes hummus and lentils as both are good for you. But the diet we are on is in stages - stage 2 is the one you can eat lentils and beans are only in stage 3 (there are 4 stages). Hummus is made by mixing chick peas with olive oil, lemon juice and garlic. You can make your own, it's very easy. Maybe you should ask your nutritionist? Keen RE: Please critique my diet- thank you! I avoid processed sugar and most starches and dairy. I have some fruit for fiber and also beans. I am not as well as I could be but I am trying. I don't believe you can get all your nutrients from vitamins because I have read they are not fully absorbed. Leigh Patti Cassalia <pcassalia@sbcglobal <mailto:pcassalia%40sbcglobal.net> ..net> wrote: >>>my dietician told me that if you limit your diet too severely, it is hard to recover.<<< So what do you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 I heard that a protein diet works. Have you tried to do that? Maybe if you try it you'll notice your feeling better. I couldn't eat and live with what you're doing. And if it doesn't work all you have to do is get off, I can't see where it would hurt to try. But that's a guess on my side. Randi > <<almond milk>> - did you read the label - what is in it? > <<rice hot cereal>> - prepackaged? Make your own brown rice rather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Keen wrote: >>My husband and I have managed to get our candida under control by eating mostly just brown rice, vegetables (excluding sweet potato and sweet corn) and chicken breast. We have leaky gut and IBS as well, so we cannot eat many of the things on the normal anti-candida diet. Brown rice has not been a problem for us.<<< Good to hear, thanks. I have been following the diet for 5 days and feeling so much better. I fell off the wagon last night and had 3 glasses of wine and some tortilla chips. I feel like crap this morning so it's motivating me not to do that again! I also found some lactose free organic milk and cheese and my dietician says these are fine. !! I can still make my latte in the morning without rice milk. Patti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 >>>I have no idea why your diet excludes hummus and lentils as both are good for you. But the diet we are on is in stages - stage 2 is the one you can eat lentils and beans are only in stage 3 (there are 4 stages). Hummus is made by mixing chick peas with olive oil, lemon juice and garlic. You can make your own, it's very easy. Maybe you should ask your nutritionist?<<< I did ask her and she said the chick peas/garbanzo beans feed Candida. I suppose once I'm doing well I could try it and see if it's something I'm sensitive to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Carrots may be one of the most sugary veggies, but for sure they're the better and even tastier alternative to crunchy things made with grain. I eat a lot of carrots. I'm doing fine. But of course you have to tailor this diet to yourself, so carrots may not work for you. If you must have something crunchy, try some nuts (raw, that is). > > But, is there not an anomaly here. Rice (white especially?) is, as you say, > very starchy, as are all grains. Doesn't starch convert to sugars, so loved > by the candida bug?! > > So my thoughts (please correct me) on Beth's diet are - > > almond milk- presumably good > rice hot cereal - rice=starch=sugar? > grapes = fruit = sugar > applegate hotdog = ! Full of chemicals, spices and other things strongly > not recomended for Candida diet > refried beans - refried in what and how stored? > half a almond butter and jam sandwich - jam! sandwich made with bread = > wheat (grain)? > a kiwi = fruit = sugar > handful of baby carrots - Carrots are amongst the most sugary veg? > cup of potato chips - potatoes and what type of fat? > brown rice with ground beef and asparagus for dinner - rice again (OK brown > not as bad but still surely starchy). > > These comments I've gleaned from this list over a considerable time and > www.wholeapproach.com ( > www.wholeapproach.com/diet/WholeApproach_Food_List.pdf ) and others. > > The > > only " starch " I can have is rice and rice products. > > > > Basically my diet says no sugar including fruit, no dairy, no nuts, no > > soy, > > rice as the only grain, no lentils, no alcohol. > > > > Patti > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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