Re: Can We Just Be... and My Dr's Opinion

November 12, 2004

Carol-

It makes total physiological sense. I will explain why. Your colon and

your immune system are related to a certain degree. Candida is a normal

resident of the body. When your good bacteria levels are normal, these good

bacteria work in concert with your immune system to keep the candida fungus

in check. It causes no harm. When our bodies are introduced to antibiotics

(and unfortunately a lot meats now pass on these antibiotics and hormones),

these antibiotics kill good bacteria and bad bacteria. Candida is a fungus

and is not killed. If the good bacteria is not replaced then this fungus

fills the void. Now your colon is sort a regulator (in a way) of your

immune system. Your immune system talks to your colon and when there is a

candida overgrowth in your colon your immune system says hey wait a minute,

I can't possibly fight this overgrowth and still fight other pathogens. So

it response is to leave the candida fungus alone, throughout the body. So

at first the candida fungus is just present in the colon but when your

immune system basically gives it a free pass, because there is too much, it

is free to go wherever it wants, and then you start to see the symptoms of

the candida overgrowth pop up everywhere. The candida fungus can actually

have a tree like root system and attach itself to your colon. Left

unchecked that is the way nature works.

Now to colon cleansing. A good colon cleanse like Dr. Schulzes, kills the

candida fungus, feeds the good bacteria and pushed the fungus out from your

colon, along with all the other crap. If your colon is relatively clean any

other cleanse will be exponentially more successful. When your colon is

gunked up, when you cleanse, the colon can't rid itself of the toxins

created from your cleanse, hence the die-off symptoms, the flu-like

feeling...

My sister had Lyme's disease and was on massive doses of antibiotics. She

definitely had a candida problem. I had done a cleanse called the master

cleanse, or the lemonade cleanse, with very good results. She did this

cleanse and had horrible die-off symptoms, to the point where she was

crying...so a couple of months later I persuaded her to try Dr. Schulzes

intestinal cleanse #1 and #2, which I actually made myself....in the second

week she started to see white come out in her waste. The white being her

candida overgrowth....she started feeling better and being able to absorb

more nutrients from the food she consumed...so now any diet modifications or

cleanses she does will be so much more effective....

As for the liver cleanse, I know it works, but that is for another

discussion.

I feel anyone with a candida overgrowth problem should consider a

comprehensive intestinal cleanse, prior to any cleanse or at the same time

as a diet change to help heal and to minimize die-off reactions...

take care,

Rob

Can We Just Be... and My Dr's Opinion

Hi, Gang,

I haven't been in this group long but have already felt inclined to

self-censor my sharings for reasons Jerry's mentioned. Example: the liver

and colon-cleansing issues. Blessings upon those who say that they're

helped by same but I don't think it makes physiological sense.

I was at my wonderful award-winning holistically-oriented internist's

office last week and asked him what he thinks of that issue. This guy, who

is wonderfully open-minded, began as a gastoenterologist and has been

treating candida patients for at least 25 yr. so I thought it would be

interesting to see what he would say. He just smiled. I said, " The concept

doesn't make sense to me having read extensively and listened to tapes of

candida medical conferences over the years. "

He said, " That's because it doesn't make sense! "

I told him about asking why y'all called the products of such purges

'stones' and asking if anyone had actually felt these things to know that

they're hard. He said that he'd had some patients bring their " stones " in

and had found them to be soft. He said analysis had shown them to be

cholesterol, among other things.

Mind you, I pretend to be no expert on physiology. Besides the high

school and university level biology courses I took, all my knowledge has

been gained of necessity as a result of the ignorance of docs regarding the

health challenges of my kidz and moiself... But most folks out there, in my

experience, know even less than I do about the human body and are easy prey

to scheisters (sp? no speaka de Goiman!).

And, as huge a lifestyle change as a person

usually has to make when they get into all this, and as expensive as it can

be, I just hate for them to be given misinformation which may prove even

MORE costly! By the way, my dear doc said that one of his patients ended up

in the hospital as a result of one of these purges because it precipitated a

gall bladder crisis.

He has excellent results with diet, exercise, beneficial bacteria, and

hormone balancing (my own situation seems to be majorly thyroid-related).

Well, that's about it from here.

Blessings,

Carol

November 12, 2004

I really enjoyed reading your post, Rob. I am breastfeeding and have candida

symptoms. Aside from changing my diet and starting a program to kill off the

yeast, I've been considering doing a liver cleanse. I found one that seems

gentle, but I'm afraid of toxins going into my bloodstream and thus into my

milk. Now I'm thinking that a colon cleanse might reduce the chances of this

happening. Would you happen to know of a colon cleanse that is safe for nursing

moms? Also, is there a way to tell if you need a colon cleanse...certain

symptoms or something?

Thanks,