Re: ~~ :o) ---- Probiotics ( simply the best )

[Guest guest]

Don't you get die-off symptoms from taking such a massive amount?

As I said in an earlier post, when I take just one 4 billion capsule, it

makes my nose pour for the next day.

avraham

On 9/21/06, Kathycozycove@... <Kathycozycove@...> wrote:

>

> Click here: Flora Source probiotic supplement Keeping the Probiotic

> Balance

>

> Hi all, ............................Good Stuff

>

> Since we are laying the cards on the table about Probiotics, I simply

> think I

> have the best that anyone could ever want to take. Its called Flora Source

> by

> golden health products.

> Super Potency with 22 billion viable cells------15 probiotic strains. (

> and

> NO harmful bacillus licheniformis in it. ) I took this product about 4

> years

> ago and started to feel real good, more energy. Then like a dummy I

> stopped

> taking it for a long time, and now I have developed big time problems in

> my

> bowels. I ordered some once again a short while back. But I was only

> taking 1 a

> day. Well...with my health problems, come to find out I needed more then 1

> a day.

> ( someone said, you can never take enough probiotics ) a light bulb lit up

> in

> my head. And my brain said, you need to be taking more of this Flora

> Source.

> So a couple days ago I started to take 2 capsules a half hour before I eat

> in

> the morning, and repeat this before I eat my evening meal. I am starting

> to

> notice more energy, to where I don't need to lie down in the afternoon

> from

> exhaustion. Time will tell if my health will take a turn around from

> taking larger

> amounts of the Flora Source. I simply think this is the best you can take.

>

> Just my two cents. By the way...they have two other products I was reading

>

> about this evening. Sounds like they could be very good for ones health

> also.

> I say if it works for you, then its good.

> <><>kathy<><>

>

>

[Guest guest]

" Don't you get die-off symptoms from taking such a massive amount? "

I am not Kathy, but I have a question about this. I noticed the first time I

started taking Primal Defense that I felt a little off. I was lower on energy

and irritable. I thought maybe I was getting gluten from the barley grass, but I

don't think that is it, because I am fine with it now. I also didn't ease into

taking it like the bottle says (you'd think I would learn my lesson one of these

days). I took 3/day from the 1st day. It was about the 3rd day that I started

feeling bad.

Is it possible that what I felt was from something other than candida (because I

really don't think I have candida- yeah, I know, I am on a candida list- I just

enjoy it)? Could it have been the bacteria digesting toxins in my bowels or

other bad bacteria dieing?

Thanks,

Olif

[Guest guest]

Hi avraham, Subject: Probiotics

I am wrong, when I said i started taking the Flora Source a short time

back.Forgot I went through 2 bottles and am now on my 3rd. I was taking 1a day

all

this time. The 1 a day may have prepared my system for the massive amount I am

taking now. I didn't feel so good for a couple days, and had diarrhea, also

head pain flaired up more so then normal. Could have been other things

also.Anyways I am sticking to the 4 a day for now. I should have the Inulin in

the mail

today or tomorrow (hopefully) I will also take that with the flora source. I

have IBS, leaky gut, and I am thinking strongly, that I have crohns disease.

just not the bleeding yet. They say IBS can change into crohns.

<><>kathy<><>

In a message dated 9/21/2006 5:38:12 AM Central Daylight Time,

amakeler@... writes:

Don't you get die-off symptoms from taking such a massive amount?

As I said in an earlier post, when I take just one 4 billion capsule, it

makes my nose pour for the next day.

avraham

On 9/21/06, Kathycozycove@... <Kathycozycove@...> wrote:

>

> Click here: Flora Source probiotic supplement Keeping the Probiotic

> Balance

>

> Hi all, ............................Good Stuff

>

> Since we are laying the cards on the table about Probiotics, I simply

> think I

> have the best that anyone could ever want to take. Its called Flora Source

> by

> golden health products.

> Super Potency with 22 billion viable cells------15 probiotic strains. (

> and

> NO harmful bacillus licheniformis in it. ) I took this product about 4

> years

> ago and started to feel real good, more energy. Then like a dummy I

> stopped

> taking it for a long time, and now I have developed big time problems in

> my

> bowels. I ordered some once again a short while back. But I was only

> taking 1 a

> day. Well...with my health problems, come to find out I needed more then 1

> a day.

> ( someone said, you can never take enough probiotics ) a light bulb lit up

> in

> my head. And my brain said, you need to be taking more of this Flora

> Source.

> So a couple days ago I started to take 2 capsules a half hour before I eat

> in

> the morning, and repeat this before I eat my evening meal. I am starting

> to

> notice more energy, to where I don't need to lie down in the afternoon

> from

> exhaustion. Time will tell if my health will take a turn around from

> taking larger

> amounts of the Flora Source. I simply think this is the best you can take.

>

> Just my two cents. By the way...they have two other products I was reading

>

> about this evening. Sounds like they could be very good for ones health

> also.

> I say if it works for you, then its good.

> <><>kathy<><>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi shefy,

Did you also read up on the other 2 products they carry ( seacure & sea vive

)? Also..above on the website, did you click on the Probiotic Report and the

testomonials ?

Surely sounds like some good products to be taking for ones health.

www.goldenhealthproducts.com ( Flora Source....Probiotic )

<><>kathy<><>

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In a message dated 9/21/2006 11:52:16 AM Central Daylight Time,

shefy7@... writes:

good info. i'm so confused on which probiotic to buy now! i was just about to

order primal defense when i read another good thing on flora source...

price is not a concern to me, it's our health we're tlaking about

someone posted awhile ago that there are 13 essential strains, and here you

said this one has 15 w/out the cancer causing strain...

i guess i'll just have to do more research...any thoughts..?

confused,

shefy

Kathycozycove@... wrote: Click here:

Flora Source probiotic supplement Keeping the Probiotic Balance

Hi all, ............................Good Stuff

[Guest guest]

Flora Source is not enteric coated so it's variable how many get past

the stomach acid into the gut.

That being said, if you want to take probiotics, it takes lots,

enteric coated or not, to make an effective starter culture, and you

must feed them inulin to make the culture active. About 10-12 grams of

inulin is enough.

Duncan

>

> I simply think I

> have the best that anyone could ever want to take. Its called Flora

> Source

[Guest guest]

Maybe it's leaky gut and not die-off. Either way, it's too bad you

react like that to such a low dose probiotic.

Duncan

>

>

> Don't you get die-off symptoms from taking such a massive amount?

> As I said in an earlier post, when I take just one 4 billion

capsule, it

> makes my nose pour for the next day.

>

> avraham

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the response, Duncan.

So a probiotic going straight into your bloodtream from your gut can cause

such a bad reaction?, much much worse than literally anything I could eat,

even bread or milk or sugar?!!! Even a one-time large dose of bread or milk

or sugar will not give me such a bad allergic reaction.

avraham

On 9/21/06, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

>

> Maybe it's leaky gut and not die-off. Either way, it's too bad you

> react like that to such a low dose probiotic.

>

> Duncan

>

> >

> >

> > Don't you get die-off symptoms from taking such a massive amount?

> > As I said in an earlier post, when I take just one 4 billion

> capsule, it

> > makes my nose pour for the next day.

> >

> > avraham

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

good info. i'm so confused on which probiotic to buy now! i was just about to

order primal defense when i read another good thing on flora source...

price is not a concern to me, it's our health we're tlaking about

someone posted awhile ago that there are 13 essential strains, and here you said

this one has 15 w/out the cancer causing strain...

i guess i'll just have to do more research...any thoughts..?

confused,

shefy

Kathycozycove@... wrote: Click here: Flora

Source probiotic supplement Keeping the Probiotic Balance

Hi all, ............................Good Stuff

Since we are laying the cards on the table about Probiotics, I simply think I

have the best that anyone could ever want to take. Its called Flora Source by

golden health products.

Super Potency with 22 billion viable cells------15 probiotic strains. ( and

NO harmful bacillus licheniformis in it. ) I took this product about 4 years

ago and started to feel real good, more energy. Then like a dummy I stopped

taking it for a long time, and now I have developed big time problems in my

bowels. I ordered some once again a short while back. But I was only taking 1 a

day. Well...with my health problems, come to find out I needed more then 1 a

day.

( someone said, you can never take enough probiotics ) a light bulb lit up in

my head. And my brain said, you need to be taking more of this Flora Source.

So a couple days ago I started to take 2 capsules a half hour before I eat in

the morning, and repeat this before I eat my evening meal. I am starting to

notice more energy, to where I don't need to lie down in the afternoon from

exhaustion. Time will tell if my health will take a turn around from taking

larger

amounts of the Flora Source. I simply think this is the best you can take.

Just my two cents. By the way...they have two other products I was reading

about this evening. Sounds like they could be very good for ones health also.

I say if it works for you, then its good.

<><>kathy<><>

[Guest guest]

If you are not concerned about price, VSL #3 is the best. It is even called a

" medical food. "

www.vsl3.com

I use it and it has 450 billion organisms per packet!!! Very good, very

powerful. I take a half packet twice a day.

[Guest guest]

Although the advertising might say there are 13 essential strains of

probiotic, the fact is when the probiotic is withdrawn at the end of

a program, the gut population normalizes to the natural situation.

Many of the introduced strains die out, even in individuals of the

same family, the same village, on the same diet.

So much for the strains being " essential " . It's all hype.

The research in this case is in Tungland's Comprehensive Scientific

Review.

So, the best path is to use the most common organisms while feeding

with the prebiotic, fully expecting some or most to be eliminated as

you eventually drop the probiotic and the natural bowel ecology

reasserts itself.

Advertising copywriters can say anything they want, but note that the

SBOs in Primal Defense and Probiotic Defense are MEANT to be

transient, and are acknowledged as transient in the Primal Defense

documentation and also in the Gastroenterology review on my website,

which also questions the wisdom of using SBOs in the first place at

these high levels.

Duncan

>

> someone posted awhile ago that there are 13 essential strains, and

here you said this one has 15 w/out the cancer causing strain...

>

> i guess i'll just have to do more research...any thoughts..?

>

> confused,

> shefy