Re: Re: Is there an affordable way to get organic groceries? --YES

[Guest guest]

Wow this is a great overview I am shocked though because the price of your

organics in Ca are far cheaper than the cost of NON organics in Maine.

Broccoli and califlower are over 2.00 each as a non organic food.Reg spinach

is more than your organic.I think this might be true as you may have more

growing season than we do here and everything is trucked in most of the year

We lives in NH for many years and discovered as you move futher north the

cost of food goes up.The price difference from Maine to NH is 30 percent

higher.So I had to increase my budget for a family of 5 by 30 percent just

to stay even with what I was buying in NH.

Kathy

-- Re: Is there an affordable way to get organic

groceries? --YES

I think a lot of people do feel a little overwhelmed when they first

shop at an organic food store. I hope to encourage you to try it

again. With some adjustments, you CAN shop reasonably and, most

importantly, healthfully.

I too am on a limited budget based on disability insurance income; but

I'm a strong believer in eating naturally-grown foods and believe that

most of the foods in supermarkets are so full of

chemicals/preservatives/dyes/antibiotics(in poulty & meats)and other

junk, plus being grown in chemically treated soil, that I don't want

to eat them. Do you know that vegetables can look great and have very

little nutrition in them because they haven't been grown in soil that

has natural nutrients? I buy all organic at Whole Foods Markets.

Here are some ideas that I find helpful in keeping costs down.

Instead of chicken breast, the more expensive part of the

chicken, I buy drumsticks, often at .99 a lb.

You mentioned that you bought deli meat. I rarely buy anything from

the deli, because it's more expensive and deli meats are processed

(not natural). You mentioned buying cheese, which can be expensive.

I'm not sure that's part of a candida diet because it

does have lactose, a sugar. So, I don't buy that. I don't buy juices;

they're processed and expensive, buy the vegetables instead. I drink

hot water with lemon with meals or an herbal tea. It's a matter of

changing your thinking from processed to natural.

Looking over some of my recent grocery receipts from Whole Foods in

the San Francisco bay area where prices are probably as high as

anywhere, here's what I can tell you. I often buy the following

foods. Considering a qtr lb of animal protein appropriate per meal:

1) 4 chicken drumsticks at .99 to $1.29 a lb-$3.24 (2-3 meals)

2) 1 lb. ground turkey-$2.99-enough for 4 meals @ qtr lb. each.

3)half lb wild coho salmon fillet totaling about $4.00 (2 meals)

4)2 lamb shoulder blade chops at about $4.35 (2 meals)

5)a dozen free range chicken(no antibiotics)fertile eggs-2.49(12 meals)

6)1 large bunch Spinach-$1.79 (2 meals)

7)6-8 loose carrots-$1.89 (6-8 meals)

8)3 large yellow onions-$1.46 (3 meals)

9)1 bunch asparagus-$1.90 (2 meals)

10) 1 lb of broccoli-$1.69 (2-3 meals)

11) 1 lb head of red cabbage-$1.39 (2-3 meals)

12) 1 lb zucchini squash-$1.69 (3 meals)

13) 1 lb navel oranges-$1.19

14) 1 lb fuji apples-$1.69

15) 1 lb Meyer lemons-$2.49

16) 1 lb millet grain(from the bins).63 (10+ meals)

17) 1 carton Almond Breeze (like milk)$1.39 (10+ meals)

18) 1 loaf 9-grain sourdough bread-$2.99

These items add up to about $40.00 for a week or more of meals; much

less than the $150.00 you mentioned. These foods constitute a low carb,

no sugar, no junk-food diet that is high in nutrition. You could add

another few dollars for olive oil, coconut oil which I order

online and organic butter. I use only a small amount of

the total purchase of each of these fats per week.

Anyone who's spending money on unhealthy snack foods or desserts at

a regular supermarket could easily put that money toward healthy

organic foods. Anything with sugar or trans fats is damaging to health

and usually expensive-chips, crackers, packaged cereals, ice cream,

etc. If at each meal you eat a serving of protein, & a couple half cup

servings of 2 vegetables, and at some point in the day 1 0r 2 small

servings of carbs (such as one toast and/or 1 half cup millet with

almond milk)

plus a couple servings of low sugar fruits; and if you add healthy

fats to these meals, you will be well nourished and feel satisfied (unless

you are doing " emotional " eating....and that's another story).

Hope this was helpful,

Sandy

> HOW do you eat/buy organic/candida friendly foods and still stay in a

> budget?

>

> Long story short- I don't make much money and after going to the

> grocery store last night... it would've been $150! I put it all back

> and just took home chicken breast, " organic/natural " veggie

> juice, " bulk " almonds, " bulk " pumpkin seeds, swiss cheese and

> peppered turkey (from the deli).

>

> Now, I know some of my groceries aren't candida friendly, but I'm not

> sure how to do this & still be able to pay my other bills. And the

> butcher meat is more expensive than the grocery store...

>

> Any ideas? I'm really bummed out about this.

> Thank you.

[Guest guest]

If you are a Whole Foods shopper, then you may be interested in a program

that their distributor - United Foods -- has in place. You can set up a buying

club in your area or join an existing one and get the same foods at wholesale

pricing. You can look this up by searching Blooming Prairie distributors

(which just merged/ or got bought out by United Foods).

Steph in MI

[Guest guest]

Thanks for taking the time to do that. I dont have a Natural Food market near me. I do belong to the local organic food co-op which I found on a search on line and it was very close to me. It is small but the veggies are fresh, I get them the day they are delivered. Also lots of bins of different bulk foods.

Thanks again for your descriptive grocery list. It was helpful even though I have a family of 4 it was still nice to read. I think also planning meals (which I never do) is most helpful in keeping cost down. I tend to graze in the market. (mentally)

gigi Olson <sanols02@...> wrote:

Hi,I think a lot of people do feel a little overwhelmed when they firstshop at an organic food store. I hope to encourage you to try itagain. With some adjustments, you CAN shop reasonably and, mostimportantly, healthfully. I too am on a limited budget based on disability insurance income; butI'm a strong believer in eating naturally-grown foods and believe thatmost of the foods in supermarkets are so full ofchemicals/preservatives/dyes/antibiotics(in poulty & meats)and otherjunk, plus being grown in chemically treated soil, that I don't wantto eat them. Do you know that vegetables can look great and have verylittle nutrition in them because they haven't been grown in soil thathas natural nutrients? I buy all organic at Whole Foods Markets. Here are some ideas that I find helpful in keeping costs down. Instead of

chicken breast, the more expensive part of thechicken, I buy drumsticks, often at .99 a lb.You mentioned that you bought deli meat. I rarely buy anything fromthe deli, because it's more expensive and deli meats are processed(not natural). You mentioned buying cheese, which can be expensive.I'm not sure that's part of a candida diet because itdoes have lactose, a sugar. So, I don't buy that. I don't buy juices;they're processed and expensive, buy the vegetables instead. I drinkhot water with lemon with meals or an herbal tea. It's a matter ofchanging your thinking from processed to natural. Looking over some of my recent grocery receipts from Whole Foods inthe San Francisco bay area where prices are probably as high asanywhere, here's what I can tell you. I often buy the followingfoods. Considering a qtr lb of animal protein appropriate per meal:1) 4 chicken drumsticks at .99 to $1.29 a lb-$3.24 (2-3 meals)2) 1 lb.

ground turkey-$2.99-enough for 4 meals @ qtr lb. each. 3)half lb wild coho salmon fillet totaling about $4.00 (2 meals)4)2 lamb shoulder blade chops at about $4.35 (2 meals)5)a dozen free range chicken(no antibiotics)fertile eggs-2.49(12 meals)6)1 large bunch Spinach-$1.79 (2 meals)7)6-8 loose carrots-$1.89 (6-8 meals)8)3 large yellow onions-$1.46 (3 meals)9)1 bunch asparagus-$1.90 (2 meals)10) 1 lb of broccoli-$1.69 (2-3 meals)11) 1 lb head of red cabbage-$1.39 (2-3 meals)12) 1 lb zucchini squash-$1.69 (3 meals)13) 1 lb navel oranges-$1.19 14) 1 lb fuji apples-$1.6915) 1 lb Meyer lemons-$2.4916) 1 lb millet grain(from the bins).63 (10+ meals)17) 1 carton Almond Breeze (like milk)$1.39 (10+ meals)18) 1 loaf 9-grain sourdough bread-$2.99These items add up to about $40.00 for a week or more of meals; muchless than the $150.00 you mentioned. These foods constitute a low carb, no sugar, no junk-food diet

that is high in nutrition. You could addanother few dollars for olive oil, coconut oil which I orderonline and organic butter. I use only a small amount ofthe total purchase of each of these fats per week.Anyone who's spending money on unhealthy snack foods or desserts at a regular supermarket could easily put that money toward healthyorganic foods. Anything with sugar or trans fats is damaging to healthand usually expensive-chips, crackers, packaged cereals, ice cream,etc. If at each meal you eat a serving of protein, & a couple half cupservings of 2 vegetables, and at some point in the day 1 0r 2 smallservings of carbs (such as one toast and/or 1 half cup millet withalmond milk)plus a couple servings of low sugar fruits; and if you add healthyfats to these meals, you will be well nourished and feel satisfied (unlessyou are doing "emotional" eating....and that's another story). Hope this was

helpful,Sandy> HOW do you eat/buy organic/candida friendly foods and still stay in a > budget?> > Long story short- I don't make much money and after going to the > grocery store last night... it would've been $150! I put it all back > and just took home chicken breast, "organic/natural" veggie > juice, "bulk" almonds, "bulk" pumpkin seeds, swiss cheese and > peppered turkey (from the deli).> > Now, I know some of my groceries aren't candida friendly, but I'm not > sure how to do this & still be able to pay my other bills. And the > butcher meat is more expensive than the grocery store... > > Any ideas? I'm really bummed out about this.> Thank you.

[Guest guest]

another thing that keeps costs down for me is buying in bulk, then freezing things I don't immediately need (only works with some veggies, but not all) making dinners ahead of time then freezing them. Dehydrating some veggies. And I eventually want to start canning things. I've finally got my own garden this year, so that may be a possibility.

Re: Re: Is there an affordable way to get organic groceries? --YES

Thanks for taking the time to do that. I dont have a Natural Food market near me. I do belong to the local organic food co-op which I found on a search on line and it was very close to me. It is small but the veggies are fresh, I get them the day they are delivered. Also lots of bins of different bulk foods.

Thanks again for your descriptive grocery list. It was helpful even though I have a family of 4 it was still nice to read. I think also planning meals (which I never do) is most helpful in keeping cost down. I tend to graze in the market. (mentally)

gigi Olson <sanols02@...> wrote:

Hi,I think a lot of people do feel a little overwhelmed when they firstshop at an organic food store. I hope to encourage you to try itagain. With some adjustments, you CAN shop reasonably and, mostimportantly, healthfully. I too am on a limited budget based on disability insurance income; butI'm a strong believer in eating naturally-grown foods and believe thatmost of the foods in supermarkets are so full ofchemicals/preservatives/dyes/antibiotics(in poulty & meats)and otherjunk, plus being grown in chemically treated soil, that I don't wantto eat them. Do you know that vegetables can look great and have verylittle nutrition in them because they haven't been grown in soil thathas natural nutrients? I buy all organic at Whole Foods Markets. Here are some ideas that I find helpful in keeping costs down. Instead of chicken breast, the more expensive part of thechicken, I buy drumsticks, often at .99 a lb.You mentioned that you bought deli meat. I rarely buy anything fromthe deli, because it's more expensive and deli meats are processed(not natural). You mentioned buying cheese, which can be expensive.I'm not sure that's part of a candida diet because itdoes have lactose, a sugar. So, I don't buy that. I don't buy juices;they're processed and expensive, buy the vegetables instead. I drinkhot water with lemon with meals or an herbal tea. It's a matter ofchanging your thinking from processed to natural. Looking over some of my recent grocery receipts from Whole Foods inthe San Francisco bay area where prices are probably as high asanywhere, here's what I can tell you. I often buy the followingfoods. Considering a qtr lb of animal protein appropriate per meal:1) 4 chicken drumsticks at .99 to $1.29 a lb-$3.24 (2-3 meals)2) 1 lb. ground turkey-$2.99-enough for 4 meals @ qtr lb. each. 3)half lb wild coho salmon fillet totaling about $4.00 (2 meals)4)2 lamb shoulder blade chops at about $4.35 (2 meals)5)a dozen free range chicken(no antibiotics)fertile eggs-2.49(12 meals)6)1 large bunch Spinach-$1.79 (2 meals)7)6-8 loose carrots-$1.89 (6-8 meals)8)3 large yellow onions-$1.46 (3 meals)9)1 bunch asparagus-$1.90 (2 meals)10) 1 lb of broccoli-$1.69 (2-3 meals)11) 1 lb head of red cabbage-$1.39 (2-3 meals)12) 1 lb zucchini squash-$1.69 (3 meals)13) 1 lb navel oranges-$1.19 14) 1 lb fuji apples-$1.6915) 1 lb Meyer lemons-$2.4916) 1 lb millet grain(from the bins).63 (10+ meals)17) 1 carton Almond Breeze (like milk)$1.39 (10+ meals)18) 1 loaf 9-grain sourdough bread-$2.99These items add up to about $40.00 for a week or more of meals; muchless than the $150.00 you mentioned. These foods constitute a low carb, no sugar, no junk-food diet that is high in nutrition. You could addanother few dollars for olive oil, coconut oil which I orderonline and organic butter. I use only a small amount ofthe total purchase of each of these fats per week.Anyone who's spending money on unhealthy snack foods or desserts at a regular supermarket could easily put that money toward healthyorganic foods. Anything with sugar or trans fats is damaging to healthand usually expensive-chips, crackers, packaged cereals, ice cream,etc. If at each meal you eat a serving of protein, & a couple half cupservings of 2 vegetables, and at some point in the day 1 0r 2 smallservings of carbs (such as one toast and/or 1 half cup millet withalmond milk)plus a couple servings of low sugar fruits; and if you add healthyfats to these meals, you will be well nourished and feel satisfied (unlessyou are doing "emotional" eating....and that's another story). Hope this was helpful,Sandy> HOW do you eat/buy organic/candida friendly foods and still stay in a > budget?> > Long story short- I don't make much money and after going to the > grocery store last night... it would've been $150! I put it all back > and just took home chicken breast, "organic/natural" veggie > juice, "bulk" almonds, "bulk" pumpkin seeds, swiss cheese and > peppered turkey (from the deli).> > Now, I know some of my groceries aren't candida friendly, but I'm not > sure how to do this & still be able to pay my other bills. And the > butcher meat is more expensive than the grocery store... > > Any ideas? I'm really bummed out about this.> Thank you.

[Guest guest]

I hesitated to write to you all about candida recipes, since I haven't fully checked them out, but Sandy has been so generous with her time and information that I am inspired to throw what I know in the ring. Dr. ph Mercola of www.mercola.com has written a couple of books containing recipes that he claims are nutritious and delicious. (I can't vouch, as I haven't tried any of them yet, but I believe him.) He is the author of the best-selling No-Grain Diet and the more recent Total Health Cookbook and Program (see http://www.coastherbal.com/no_gain_book.htm?OVRAW=mercola & OVKEY=mercola & OVMTC=standard). I think his health advice is right on the money. I believe both books contain lots of recipes that would be perfect for a candida diet. Best,

Olson <sanols02@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone,I'm glad my grocery list was helpful. I was surprised to learnthat our prices in CA are lower than Maine or PA, but after I thoughtabout the huge amount of farming that is done here in CA, it madesense. I did a quick Google search & found that CA is the leader in the amount of farm land dedicated to certified organic crops. Iknow that our chickens and eggs come from farms just a few milesnorth of SF and much of the produce is grown within 50 miles of here.So, even though home prices and gasoline are extremely high, it's niceto know that we're getting our food at reasonable prices. BTW, it took me a long time (years) to give up some of my favorite butunhealthy snack foods like potato chips & Hagen Daz Bars;but I just kept working toward that goal until I finally stopped wanting them at all. I usually

have a dessert on holidays, andthoroughly love it, but I can tell a difference in how I feelphysically the next day. I can attest to a low-carb, low sugar diet(like Atkins, Enter the Zone or South Beach) working because I havesteadily lost weight over the years following an anti-candida diet. And I do eat plenty of healthy fats, probably 4 to 5 Tbs. a day. I don't eat bacon, rarely pork or beef, but mainly theitems on my list with variations of low-starch vegetables and low-sugar fruits.Regarding recipes, there are many candida cookbooks. I tend to justcook so simply that there isn't much need for a recipe. One dishthat I like begins by frying a whole chopped yellow onion and severalgarlic cloves into a pan with olive oil until soft. Remove it to aplate. Add more oil to the pan if needed; then cook ground turkey inthe pan, chop & turn it as it fries. When it's done, add the onion andgarlic back into the pan

and let it sit, mingling flavors on low heat.Then, drop some fresh spinach in a pot with a little boiling water & cook gently a few minutes till soft. Put it all on a plate, salt totaste, add some virgin coconut oil (which kills candida, viruses, etc.because of its lauric acid). And that's it.A second tasty snack starts with about half cup of millet browned inolive oil, add a couple cups of water and let it boil gently for 20minutes or so till it's fluffy. Keep adding water if needed so itdoesn't dry or burn. Put some in a bowl, add Almond Breeze or RiceMilk and some cinnimon; and you have a delicious treat. The leftovercan be refrigerated and rewarmed the next day. In many countries in the world, housewives still go every morning andbuy fresh, just-picked vegetables at farmers' markets to use that day.We Americans have become very removed from the source of our food. Butfruits and vegetables begin losing nutrients

from the moment they arepicked and after a few days have less value. I don't have thestrength to go to the store every day, but I do what I can.Thanks again for all of your responses,Sandy > > HOW do you eat/buy organic/candida friendly foods and still stay in a > > budget?> > > > Long story short- I don't make much money and after

going to the > > grocery store last night... it would've been $150! I put it all back > > and just took home chicken breast, "organic/natural" veggie > > juice, "bulk" almonds, "bulk" pumpkin seeds, swiss cheese and > > peppered turkey (from the deli).> > > > Now, I know some of my groceries aren't candida friendly, but I'm not > > sure how to do this & still be able to pay my other bills. And the > > butcher meat is more expensive than the grocery store... > > > > Any ideas? I'm really bummed out about this.> > Thank you.> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Do you exclude grains altogether in the

diet?

Also, what do you think about digestive

enzymes to heal the gut?

Kind Regards,

Liz

Re: Re: Is

there an affordable way to get organic groceries? --YES

I hesitated to write to

you all about candida recipes, since I haven't fully checked them out, but

Sandy has been so generous with her time and information that I am inspired to

throw what I know in the ring. Dr. ph Mercola of www.mercola.com has written a couple of books

containing recipes that he claims are nutritious and delicious. (I can't

vouch, as I haven't tried any of them yet, but I believe him.) He is the

author of the best-selling No-Grain Diet and the more recent Total Health

Cookbook and Program (see http://www.coastherbal.com/no_gain_book.htm?OVRAW=mercola & OVKEY=mercola & OVMTC=standard).

I think his health advice is right on the money. I believe

both books contain lots of recipes that would be perfect for a candida

diet. Best,

Olson

<sanols02@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I'm glad my grocery list was helpful. I was

surprised to learn

that our prices in CA are lower than Maine or PA,

but after I thought

about the huge amount of farming that is done here

in CA, it made

sense. I did a quick Google search & found that

CA is the leader in

the amount of farm land dedicated to certified

organic crops. I

know that our chickens and eggs come from farms

just a few miles

north of SF and much of the produce is grown

within 50 miles of here.

So, even though home prices and gasoline are

extremely high, it's nice

to know that we're getting our food at reasonable

prices.

BTW, it took me a long time (years) to give up

some of my favorite but

unhealthy snack foods like potato chips &

Hagen Daz Bars;

but I just kept working toward that goal until I

finally stopped

wanting them at all. I usually have a dessert on

holidays, and

thoroughly love it, but I can tell a

difference in how I feel

physically the next day. I can attest to a

low-carb, low sugar diet

(like Atkins, Enter the Zone or South Beach)

working because I have

steadily lost weight over the years following an

anti-candida diet.

And I do eat plenty of healthy fats, probably 4 to

5 Tbs. a day.

I don't eat bacon, rarely pork or beef, but mainly

the

items on my list with variations of low-starch

vegetables and low-

sugar fruits.

Regarding recipes, there are many candida

cookbooks. I tend to just

cook so simply that there isn't much need for a

recipe. One dish

that I like begins by frying a whole chopped

yellow onion and several

garlic cloves into a pan with olive oil until

soft. Remove it to a

plate. Add more oil to the pan if needed; then

cook ground turkey in

the pan, chop & turn it as it fries. When it's

done, add the onion and

garlic back into the pan and let it sit, mingling

flavors on low heat.

Then, drop some fresh spinach in a pot with a

little boiling water &

cook gently a few minutes till soft. Put it all on

a plate, salt to

taste, add some virgin coconut oil (which kills

candida, viruses, etc.

because of its lauric acid). And that's it.

A second tasty snack starts with about half cup of

millet browned in

olive oil, add a couple cups of water and let it

boil gently for 20

minutes or so till it's fluffy. Keep adding water

if needed so it

doesn't dry or burn. Put some in a bowl, add

Almond Breeze or Rice

Milk and some cinnimon; and you have a delicious

treat. The leftover

can be refrigerated and rewarmed the next day.

In many countries in the world, housewives still

go every morning and

buy fresh, just-picked vegetables at farmers'

markets to use that day.

We Americans have become very removed from the

source of our food. But

fruits and vegetables begin losing nutrients from

the moment they are

picked and after a few days have less value. I

don't have the

strength to go to the store every day, but I do

what I can.

Thanks again for all of your responses,

Sandy

> > HOW do you eat/buy organic/candida

friendly foods and still stay in a

> > budget?

> >

> > Long story short- I don't make much

money and after going to the

> > grocery store last night... it would've

been $150! I put it all back

> > and just took home chicken breast,

" organic/natural " veggie

> > juice, " bulk " almonds,

" bulk " pumpkin seeds, swiss cheese and

> > peppered turkey (from the deli).

> >

> > Now, I know some of my groceries aren't

candida friendly, but I'm not

> > sure how to do this & still be able

to pay my other bills. And the

> > butcher meat is more expensive than the

grocery store...

> >

> > Any ideas? I'm really bummed out about

this.

> > Thank you.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Greetings to all

Does anyone have a receipt for buckwheat??

thank you

nieema

Natures is doing her best to

make us well, she exists for no other end.

http://www.a-healing-village.com

[Guest guest]

Hello Liz,

Very glad to see you bring up the subject of phenols. On the autistic boards most children have issues with these, along with yeast and leaky guts probably due to the mercury from the thimerosal/vaccines. Many of these children's lives have been changed by the use of a new brand of enzymes, called Houston. They were developed by Devin Houston who is extremely experienced in the world of enzymes. And he even has one called No-Phenol, which specifically targets salicylates. My daughter also has a slight problem with salicylates and amines, just varies from day to day. Problem I found is that after cutting out most carbs to not feed her yeast problem, to then cut out high salicylates/amines, left hardly anything for her to eat. Unfortunately a case of trying to weigh things out. But as with any supplement, if you are sensitive to things then you'd have to check them out on yourself. The tricky part is most people who see miraculous results have to go through the adjustment phase which is often quite nasty. But many kids find they are able to eat certain foods without getting an effect along with these enzymes. Below are some links on enzymes, and Houston enzymes.

Kari

http://www.enzymestuff.com/

https://host6.websitesource.com/houstonni/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Session_ID=2127af020ae91a489c11d6326d309406

RE: Re: Is there an affordable way to get organic groceries? --YES

Dear ,

Do you exclude grains altogether in the diet?

Also, what do you think about digestive enzymes to heal the gut?

Kind Regards,

Liz

[Guest guest]

Dear Kari,

Yes I know all about Houston Enzymes. I have some No-Fenol. I have used 1 so far. I don’t think it went that

well. I will have to try again

soon. They actually have a mould

derivative in it so that may be a problem for me being so sensitive. I actually have learnt more in the last

year than I have in the 15 years I have had CFS because I have a little boy who

is soooooooooooooo sensitive. He has bad candida. The worst thing is that it has wrecked

up his digestion so badly, that he has to live on a predigested formula. However, the formula has glucose syrup in

it which just keeps feeding the candida so he has

such an irritable bowel and so much gas in his intestines. His bowel just spasms

and cramps all the time. We

are going around in a very vicious cycle with Kieran because if he doesn’t

drink this formula, he won’t survive. He can only eat a little food and that

gives him a pain in the gut too. He

is the reason we found all this out about phenols. I then realised how sensitive I was to

them and how they overload the system.

I agree, cutting out the phenols plus the carbs

and sugar make it a very limited diet!

Liz

Re: Re: Is

there an affordable way to get organic groceries? --YES

Hello Liz,

Very glad to see you bring up the

subject of phenols. On the autistic boards most children have issues with

these, along with yeast and leaky guts probably due to the mercury from the

thimerosal/vaccines. Many of these children's lives have been changed by

the use of a new brand of enzymes, called Houston. They

were developed by Devin Houston who is extremely experienced in the world of

enzymes. And he even has one called No-Phenol, which specifically targets

salicylates. My daughter also has a slight problem with salicylates and

amines, just varies from day to day. Problem I found is that after

cutting out most carbs to not feed her yeast problem, to then cut out high

salicylates/amines, left hardly anything for her to eat. Unfortunately a

case of trying to weigh things out. But as with any supplement, if you

are sensitive to things then you'd have to check them out on yourself.

The tricky part is most people who see miraculous results have to go through

the adjustment phase which is often quite nasty. But many kids find they

are able to eat certain foods without getting an effect along with these

enzymes. Below are some links on enzymes, and Houston enzymes.

Kari

http://www.enzymestuff.com/

https://host6.websitesource.com/houstonni/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Session_ID=2127af020ae91a489c11d6326d309406

RE:

Re: Is there an affordable way to get organic groceries? --YES

Dear

,

Do you

exclude grains altogether in the diet?

Also,

what do you think about digestive enzymes to heal the gut?

Kind

Regards,

Liz

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Hi Sandy

What fruits do you consider low sugar fruits?

Kathy

-- Re: Is there an affordable way to get organic groceries? --YES

Hi Everyone,I'm glad my grocery list was helpful. I was surprised to learnthat our prices in CA are lower than Maine or PA, but after I thoughtabout the huge amount of farming that is done here in CA, it madesense. I did a quick Google search & found that CA is the leader in the amount of farm land dedicated to certified organic crops. Iknow that our chickens and eggs come from farms just a few milesnorth of SF and much of the produce is grown within 50 miles of here.So, even though home prices and gasoline are extremely high, it's niceto know that we're getting our food at reasonable prices. BTW, it took me a long time (years) to give up some of my favorite butunhealthy snack foods like potato chips & Hagen Daz Bars;but I just kept working toward that goal until I finally stopped wanting them at all. I usually have a dessert on holidays, andthoroughly love it, but I can tell a difference in how I feelphysically the next day. I can attest to a low-carb, low sugar diet(like Atkins, Enter the Zone or South Beach) working because I havesteadily lost weight over the years following an anti-candida diet. And I do eat plenty of healthy fats, probably 4 to 5 Tbs. a day. I don't eat bacon, rarely pork or beef, but mainly theitems on my list with variations of low-starch vegetables and low-sugar fruits.Regarding recipes, there are many candida cookbooks. I tend to justcook so simply that there isn't much need for a recipe. One dishthat I like begins by frying a whole chopped yellow onion and severalgarlic cloves into a pan with olive oil until soft. Remove it to aplate. Add more oil to the pan if needed; then cook ground turkey inthe pan, chop & turn it as it fries. When it's done, add the onion andgarlic back into the pan and let it sit, mingling flavors on low heat.Then, drop some fresh spinach in a pot with a little boiling water & cook gently a few minutes till soft. Put it all on a plate, salt totaste, add some virgin coconut oil (which kills candida, viruses, etc.because of its lauric acid). And that's it.A second tasty snack starts with about half cup of millet browned inolive oil, add a couple cups of water and let it boil gently for 20minutes or so till it's fluffy. Keep adding water if needed so itdoesn't dry or burn. Put some in a bowl, add Almond Breeze or RiceMilk and some cinnimon; and you have a delicious treat. The leftovercan be refrigerated and rewarmed the next day. In many countries in the world, housewives still go every morning andbuy fresh, just-picked vegetables at farmers' markets to use that day.We Americans have become very removed from the source of our food. Butfruits and vegetables begin losing nutrients from the moment they arepicked and after a few days have less value. I don't have thestrength to go to the store every day, but I do what I can.Thanks again for all of your responses,Sandy > > HOW do you eat/buy organic/candida friendly foods and still stay in a > > budget?> > > > Long story short- I don't make much money and after going to the > > grocery store last night... it would've been $150! I put it all back > > and just took home chicken breast, "organic/natural" veggie > > juice, "bulk" almonds, "bulk" pumpkin seeds, swiss cheese and > > peppered turkey (from the deli).> > > > Now, I know some of my groceries aren't candida friendly, but I'm not > > sure how to do this & still be able to pay my other bills. And the > > butcher meat is more expensive than the grocery store... > > > > Any ideas? I'm really bummed out about this.> > Thank you.> > > > >