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on 11/19/04 2:30 PM, roadrunner1914 at batesmotel@... wrote:

I am QUITE certain that that could only happen if you took way too much of

it.

How else, do you figure???? as it only oxygenates tissues.

H2O2 is quite specific for treating systemic candida.

Well, I think candida dmages the lining of the intestines too, doesn't it???

I am no authority on this, however, I RARELY beleive anything an AMA doctor

tells me becasue they have absolutely no concept about healing...

Comments appreciated.

~inga

I have shyed away from taking h2o2 orally because some h2o2 physicians

have warned agaist it...there can be reprucssions such as damaging the

lining of the intestines...if that happens, says the doctor, you're in

big trouble.

Greg

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> > I've read a few books now on Oxygen therapy....it is really suppose to

> > annialate any yeast or fungi in the blood.

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> > Seems that an experienced doctor infuses a low concentration of h2o2

> > (in a saline solution) intravenously. h2o2 breaks down to H2O & O. The

> > negative ion on the single O atom attaches and oxidzes viruses, fungi

> > & yeasts thus obliterating them to fungi/virus heaven.

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> > Many report that after a certain treatment period (3 times a week for

> > many weeks)they are virtually cured.

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> > It sounds very interesting. many third world countries use it because

> > it works and that it is dirt cheap to obtain.

> >

> > Does anyone have any experience with this form of treatment?? I would

> > love to read your comments and/or experiences,

> >

> > Greg

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Dale,

It is not only one with Candida that needs to start out slow on H2o2, but

EVERYONE who has never used H2o2 before. H2o2 KILLS bacteria, virus, fungus

mold, and diseases. When they are destroyed, (basically from oxygen

starvation) theses (toxins) are poured into the system for elimination. If

you start with a high dose of H2o2, you will, in general, have a floodlike

release of toxins into the system, and, as a result, cause yourself to be

very sick, such as in any other toxic response. The body tries to save

itself by ridding itself of the toxin from every avenue it can as quickly as

it can. Does that help explain it?

-- Re: *H2O2 or O3 Therapy

Why would one with Candida have to start out with lower doses?

Please clarify if you can.

Many thanks, Dale

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> > I've read a few books now on Oxygen therapy....it is really

suppose to

> > annialate any yeast or fungi in the blood.

> >

> > Seems that an experienced doctor infuses a low concentration of

h2o2

> > (in a saline solution) intravenously. h2o2 breaks down to H2O &

O. The

> > negative ion on the single O atom attaches and oxidzes viruses,

fungi

> > & yeasts thus obliterating them to fungi/virus heaven.

> >

> > Many report that after a certain treatment period (3 times a

week for

> > many weeks)they are virtually cured.

> >

> > It sounds very interesting. many third world countries use it

because

> > it works and that it is dirt cheap to obtain.

> >

> > Does anyone have any experience with this form of treatment?? I

would

> > love to read your comments and/or experiences,

> >

> > Greg

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dale,

I think just becasue die-off can be real rough on some people....and we are

all uniques individuals and what is perfect for one, can be way off for

another.

Just start easy, and build up as your body dictates. You should have no

problems if you take it without food in your stomach.

It is great for oxygenating the body, but if you have food in your stomach

it will merely sit there adn start working on the digesting food, and fizz

and maybe just make you nauseous and not really have any real beneficial

effects.

~Inga

on 11/20/04 10:28 AM, dalegrossi at dalegrossi@... wrote:

Why would one with Candida have to start out with lower doses?

Please clarify if you can.

Many thanks, Dale

> >

> > I've read a few books now on Oxygen therapy....it is really

suppose to

> > annialate any yeast or fungi in the blood.

> >

> > Seems that an experienced doctor infuses a low concentration of

h2o2

> > (in a saline solution) intravenously. h2o2 breaks down to H2O &

O. The

> > negative ion on the single O atom attaches and oxidzes viruses,

fungi

> > & yeasts thus obliterating them to fungi/virus heaven.

> >

> > Many report that after a certain treatment period (3 times a

week for

> > many weeks)they are virtually cured.

> >

> > It sounds very interesting. many third world countries use it

because

> > it works and that it is dirt cheap to obtain.

> >

> > Does anyone have any experience with this form of treatment?? I

would

> > love to read your comments and/or experiences,

> >

> > Greg

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi there Mark!

Here is a rather lengthy article and there is a protocol at the end.

It comes form this website:

http://www.purehealthsystems.com/hydrogen-peroxide-2.html

But it looks like the article is chopped off there right now, so here is the

whole thing.

~Inga

Hydrogen Peroxide - Curse or Cure?

By Dr. G. ;

When it comes to hydrogen peroxide therapy there seems to be only two points

of view. Supporters consider it one of the greatest healing miracles of all

time. Those opposed feel its ingestion is exceptionally dangerous, and only

the foolhardy could think of engaging in such behavior. Before either

condemning or endorsing hydrogen peroxide, let's take a real close look at

what we're dealing with.

If any substance is interesting, it's hydrogen peroxide. Hydrogen

peroxide should really be called hydrogen dioxide. Its chemical formula is

H2O2. It contains one more atom of oxygen that does water (H20)

By now everyone's aware of the ozone layer that surrounds the earth.

Ozone consists of three atoms of oxygen (03). This protective layer of ozone

is created when ultraviolet light from the sun splits an atmospheric oxygen

molecule (02) into two single, unstable oxygen atoms.

These single molecules combine with others to form ozone (03). Ozone

isn't very stable. In fact, it will quickly give up that extra atom of

oxygen to falling rainwater to form hydrogen peroxide (H202). (Bear with me:

all this chemistry mumbo jumbo I'm going through actually will help you

understand the importance of hydrogen peroxide.)

It is this hydrogen peroxide in rainwater that makes it so much more

effective than tap water when given to plants. With the increased levels of

atmospheric pollution, however, greater amounts of H202 react with air-borne

toxins and never reach the ground.

To compensate for this, many farmers have been increasing crop yields by

spraying them with diluted hydrogen peroxide (5 to 16 ounces of 35% mixed

with 20 gallons of water per acre).

You can achieve the same beneficial effect with your house plants by

adding 1 ounce of 3% hydrogen peroxide (or 16 drops of 35% solution) to

every quart of water you give your plants. (It can also be made into an

excellent safe insecticide. Simply spray your plants with 8 ounces of 3%

peroxide mixed with 8 ounces of white sugar and one gallon of water.)

Hydrogen peroxide is odorless and colorless, but not tasteless. When

stored under the proper conditions, it is a very stable compound. When kept

in the absence of light and contaminants, it dismutates (breaks down) very

slowly at the rate of about 10% a year.

(This can be slowed even further by storing the liquid in the freezer.)

It boils at 152 degrees C and freezes at minus 2 degrees C.

When exposed to other compounds hydrogen peroxide dismutates readily. The

extra oxygen atom is released leaving H20 (water). In nature oxygen (02)

consists of two atoms--a very stable combination.

A single atom of oxygen, however, is very reactive and is referred to as

a free radical. Over the past several years, we've continually read that

these free radicals are responsible for all types of ailments and even

premature aging. What many writers seem to forget, however, is that our

bodies create and use free radicals to destroy harmful bacteria, viruses,

and fungi.

In fact, the cells responsible for fighting infection and foreign

invaders in the body (your white blood cells) make hydrogen peroxide and use

it to oxidize any offending culprits. The intense bubbling you see when

hydrogen peroxide comes in contact with a bacteria-laden cut or wound is the

oxygen being released and bacteria being destroyed. The ability of our cells

to produce hydrogen peroxide is essential for life. H202 is not some

undesirable by-product or toxin, but instead a basic requirement for good

health.

Newer research indicates we need hydrogen peroxide for a multitude of

other chemical reactions that take place throughout the body.

For example, we now know that vitamin C helps fight infections by

producing hydrogen peroxide, which in turn stimulates the production of

prostaglandins.

Also lactobacillus found in the colon and vagina produce hydrogen

peroxide. This destroys harmful bacteria and viruses, preventing colon

disease, vaginitis, bladder infections and a host of other common ailments.

(Infect Dis News Aug.8,91:5).

When lactobacillus in the colon or vaginal tract have been overrun with

harmful viruses, yeast, or bacteria, an effective douche or enema solution

can be made using 3 tablespoons of 3% H202 in 1 quart of distilled water.

Keep in mind, however, that a good bacterial flora must always be

re-established in theses areas to achieve lasting results.

While we are discussing enemas and douches, there is another

misconception about H202 I need to address. The friendly bacteria in the

colon and vagina are aerobic. In other words, they flourish in high oxygen

environments and thrive in the presence of oxygen rich H202.

On the other hand, most strains of harmful bacteria (and cancer cells)

are anaerobic and cannot survive in the presence of oxygen or H202.

We can agree that hydrogen peroxide produced within individual body cells

is essential for life. And no one doubts its effectiveness when it comes to

treating infections topically. The controversy deals with ingesting the

substance orally or introducing it into the body intravenously.

The dispute has been going on for decades, and considering the attitude

of our medical community, it will continue for many more decades to come.

I'll admit I was skeptical when I first learned about using H202 orally

or intravenously. This healthy dose of skepticism, however, lead to a great

deal of investigation, clinical work and experimentation. And while I

realize a large majority of readers will probably never be convinced that

H202 is a safe and effective compound, I am. Hydrogen peroxide is safe,

readily available and dirt cheap. And best of all, it works!

No one yet fully understands the complete workings of hydrogen peroxide.

We do know that it is loaded with oxygen. (A pint of the food-grade 35%

solution contains the equivalent of 130 pints of oxygen.

A pint of 3% hydrogen peroxide found at the local drugstore contains 10

pints of oxygen. And a pint of the 6% solution used to bleach hair contains

20 pints of oxygen.) We also know that when H202 is taken into the body

(orally or intravenously) the oxygen content of the blood and body tissues

increases dramatically.

Early researchers felt these increases were simply due to the extra

oxygen molecule being released. This doesn't however, appear to be the case.

Only very diluted amounts of H202 are ever introduced into the body. The

small amount of oxygen present couldn't be solely responsible for the

dramatic changes that take place. Dr. Farr, a strong proponent of

intravenous use, has discovered another possible answer. Dr. Farr has shown

that hydrogen peroxide stimulates enzyme systems throughout the body. This

triggers an increase in the metabolic rate, causes small arteries to dilate

and increase blood flow, enhances the body's distribution and consumption of

oxygen and raises body temperature (Proceedings of the International

Conference on Bio-Oxidative Medicine 1989, 1990, 1991).

We are just beginning to learn exactly how H202 works. It was reported to

work as far back as 1920. The English medical journal, Lancet, then reported

that intravenous infusion was used successfully to treat pneumonia in the

epidemic following World War I. In the 1940's Father Willhelm, the

pioneer in promoting peroxide use, reported on the compound being used

extensively to treat everything from bacterial-related mental illness to

skin disease and polio.

Father Willhelm is the founder of " Educational Concern for Hydrogen

Peroxide " (ECHO, a nonprofit organization dedicated to educating the public

on the safe use and therapeutic benefits of hydrogen peroxide.) Much of the

interest in hydrogen peroxide waned in the 1940's when prescription

medications came on the scene. Since that time there has been little

economic interest in funding peroxide research. After all, it is dirt cheap

and non-patentable.

Even still, in the last 25 years, over 7,700 articles relating to

hydrogen peroxide have been written in the standard medical journals.

Thousands more, involving its therapeutic use, have appeared in alternative

health publications. The number of conditions helped by hydrogen peroxide is

astounding. The reported dangers and side effects are few and often

conflicting.

Let's look at several conditions that seem to respond especially well to

H202 therapy. First, keep in mind that there are two methods of

administering the peroxide-orally and intravenously. While most conditions

respond remarkably to oral ingestion, emphysema is one condition in which

intravenous infusion can be a godsend.

Emphysema involves destruction of the alveoli (the small air sacs in the

lungs). Although chemical fumes and other irritants can cause the

destruction, it is most often the result of smoking. As the disease

progresses, the patient finds it more and more difficult to breathe.

A wheel chair and supplemental oxygen become necessary as the disease

progresses. Lack of adequate oxygen reaching the tissues forces the heart to

pump more forcefully. This leads to high blood pressure, enlargement of the

heart itself and eventually heart failure.

Conventional medicine offers little help for emphysema. There is no cure.

The best that can be hoped for is symptomatic relief and the prevention of

any serious complications that might result in death. H202 therapy can offer

more.

Using 1 ounce of 35% peroxide per 1 gallon of non-chlorinated water in a

vaporizer improves nighttime breathing tremendously. But intravenous

infusion holds the real key to relief. It has the ability to cleanse the

inner lining of the lungs and restore the ability to breathe.

We continue to hear the same story from Dr. Farr and others who use

intravenous infusion for emphysema and congestive lung problems. Within

minutes oxygen from hydrogen peroxide begins to bubble up between the

membrane lining the lungs sacs and the accumulated mucus. (Dr. Farr refers

to this as the " Alka-Seltzer effect. " )

The patient begins to cough and expel the material that has accumulated

in the lungs. The amount of bubbling, coughing, and cleansing can be

regulated by simply turning the H202 on and off.

As the peroxide clears the lung surface and destroys the bacterial

infections, the patient regains the ability to breath more normally. We

continue to receive reports from patients for whom the technique has

improved breathing so much that a wheelchair and supplemental oxygen are no

longer needed.

If you would like to find a doctor in your area trained in the use of

intravenous H202 infusion, contact the International Bio-Oxidative Medicine

Foundation (IBOM), P.O. Box 13205, Oklahoma City, OK 73113 at (405)

478-4266. They can provide names and addresses of doctors using the

procedure in your area.

If emphysema were the only ailment successfully treated with H202

therapy, it would still rank as one of the top health discoveries of all

time. Fortunately, H202 works wonders on a multitude of health problems. It

does so by increasing tissue oxygen levels. A closer look at how we have

decreased the availability of external and internal oxygen, will show you

just how important this can be.

If you were not too occupied with trying to hide dissection specimens in

the other student's desks, you might remember from elementary science

courses that our atmosphere contains about 20% oxygen. That is under ideal

circumstances.

It has recently been reported that in many of our more polluted cities,

there levels have dropped to around 10%! (I have already mentioned how less

hydrogen peroxide-containing rain is reaching the earth's surface.

With increased pollution it is reacting with airborne toxins before it

even reaches the ground.) And everyone, by now, knows the oxygen-generating

rain forests are being destroyed worldwide, which further reduces available

oxygen. Internal oxygen availability is also under attack.

Chlorination of drinking water removes oxygen. Cooking and

over-processing of our foods lowers their oxygen content. Unrestrained

antibiotic use destroys beneficial oxygen-creating bacteria in the

intestinal tract.

Dr. Johanna Budwig of Germany has shown that for proper cellular

utilization of oxygen to take place, our diets must contain adequate amounts

of unsaturated fatty acids. Unfortunately, the oils rich in these fatty

acids have become less and less popular with the food industry.

Their very nature makes them more biologically active, which requires

more careful processing and gives them a shorter shelf-life. Rather than

deal with these challenges, the food industry has turned to the use of

synthetic fats and dangerous processes like hydrogenation.

It's obvious that our oxygen needs are not being met. Several of the most

common ailments now affecting our population are directly related to oxygen

starvation. Asthma, emphysema, and lung disease are on the rise, especially

in the polluted metropolitan areas.

Cases of constipation, diarrhea, intestinal parasites and bowel cancer

are all on the upswing. Periodontal disease is endemic in the adult

population of this country. Cancer of all forms continues to increase.

Immune system disorders are sweeping the globe. Chronic fatigue, " Yuppie

Flu " and hundreds of other strange viral diseases have begun to surface.

Ironically, many of the new " miracle " drugs and nutritional supplements

used to treat these conditions work by increasing cellular oxygen

(oftentimes through H202 formation). For example, the miracle nutrient,

Coenzyme Q10, helps regulate intercellular oxidation.

Organic germanium, which received considerable publicity not too long

ago, also increases oxygen levels at the cellular level. And even substances

like niacin and vitamin E promote tissue oxidation through their dilation of

blood vessels.

Hydrogen peroxide is only one of the many components that help regulate

the amount of oxygen getting to your cells. Its presence is vital for many

other functions as well.

It is required for the production of thyroid hormone and sexual hormones.

(Mol Cell Endocrinol 86;46(2): 149-154) (Steroids 82;40(5):5690579). It

stimulates the production of interferon (J Immunol 85;134(4):24492455). It

dilates blood vessels in the heart and brain (Am J Physiol 86;250 (5 pt 2):

H815-821 and (2 pt 2):H157-162). It improves glucose utilization in

diabetics (Proceedings of the IBOM Conference 1989, 1990, 1991).

The closer you look at hydrogen peroxide, the less surprising it becomes

that it can help such a wide variety of conditions.

The following is only a partial listing of conditions in which H202

therapy has been used successfully. (Many of these conditions are serious,

if not life-threatening. As always, I would highly recommend seeking the

advice and guidance of a doctor experienced in the use of these techniques.)

* Allergies Headaches

* Altitude Sickness Herpes Simplex

* Alzheimer's Herpes Zoster

* Anemia HIV Infection

* Arrhythmia Influenza Asthma Insect Bites Bacterial Infections Liver

Cirrhosis

* Bronchitis Lupus Erythematosis

* Cancer Multiple Sclerosis

* Candida Parasitic Infections

* Cardiovascular Disease Parkinsonism

* Cerebral Vascular Disease Periodontal Disease

* Chronic Pain Prostatitis

* Diabetes Type 11 Rheumatoid Arthritis

* Diabetic Gangrene Shingles

* Diabetic Retinopahty Sinusitis

* Digestion Problems Sore Throat

* Epstein-Barr Infection Ulcers

* Emphysema Viral Infections

* Food Allergies Warts

* Fungal Infections Yeast Infections

* Gingivitis

GRADES OF HYDROGENPEROXIDE

Hydrogen peroxide is available in various strengthsand grades.

3% Pharmaceutical Grade: This is the grade sold atyour local drugstore or

supermarket. This product is notrecommended for internal use. It contains an

assortment ofstabilizers which shouldn't be ingested. Various

stabilizersinclude: acetanilide, phenol, sodium stanate and

tertrasodiumphosphate.

6% Beautician Grade: This is used in beauty shops tocolor hair and is not

recommended for internal use.

30% Reagent Grade: This is used for various scientificexperimentation and

also contains stabilizers. It is also not forinternal use.

30% to 32% Electronic Grade: This is used to cleanelectronic parts and not

for internal use.

35% Technical Grade: This is a more concentratedproduct than the Reagent

Grade and differs slightly in thatphosphorus is added to help neutralize any

chlorine from thewater used to dilute it.

35% Food Grade: This is used in the production offoods like cheese, eggs,

and whey-containing products. It is alsosprayed on the foil lining of

aseptic packages containing fruitjuices and milk products. THIS IS THE ONLY

GRADE RECOMMENDED FORINTERNAL USE...

90%: This is used as an oxygen source for rocketfuel.

Only 35% Food Grade hydrogen peroxide is recommendedfor internal use. At

this concentration, however, hydrogenperoxide is a very strong oxidizer and

if not diluted, it can beextremely dangerous or even fatal. Any

concentrations over 10%can cause neurological reactions and damage to the

uppergastrointestinal tract.

There have been two known fatalities in children whoingested 27% and 40%

concentrations of H202.

Recently, a 26 month old female swallowed one mouthfulof 35% H202. She

immediately began vomiting, followed by faintingand respiratory arrest.

Fortunately, she was under emergency roomcare and although she experienced

erosion and bleeding of thestomach and esophagus, she survived the incident.

When she wasre-examined 12 days later, the areas involved had healed

(JToxicol Clin Toxicol 90;28(1):95-100).

35% Food Grade H202 must be 1) handled carefully(direct contact will burn

the skin--immediate flushing with wateris recommended). 2) diluted properly

before use. 3) stored safelyand properly (after making a dilution the

remainder should bestored tightly sealed in the freezer).

One of the most convenient methods of dispensing 35%H202 is from a small

glass eye dropper bottle. These can bepurchased at your local drugstore.

Fill this with the 35% H202and store the larger container in the freezer

compartment of yourrefrigerator until more is needed. Store the eye dropper

bottlein the refrigerator.

The generally recommended dosage is outlined in thechart below. The drops

are mixed with either 6 to 8 ounces ofdistilled water, juice, milk or even

Aloe Vera juice or gel.(Don't use chlorinated tap water to dilute

theperoxide!)

The program outlined is only a suggestion, but it isbased on years of

experience, and reports from thousands ofusers. Those who choose to go at a

slower pace can expect toprogress more slowly, but that certainly is an

option. Theprogram is not carved in stone and keep in mind that it can

beadapted to fit individual needs.

Individuals who have had transplants should notundertake an H202 program.

H202 stimulates the immune system andcould possibly cause a rejection of the

organ.

Day - #of drops - Times per day

1 3 3

2 4 3

3 5 3

4 6 3

5 7 3

6 8 3

7 9 3

8 10 3

9 12 3

10 14 3

11 16 3

12 18 3

13 20 3

14 22 3

15 24 3

16 26 3

MAINTENANCE DOSAGE

In most situations after the above 21 day program, the amount of H202 can be

tapered off gradually as follows: 25 drops once every other day for 1 week

25 drops once every third day for 2 weeks 25 drops once every fourth day for

3 weeks

This can then be reduced to between 5 and 15 drops per week based on how

one feels.

Those with more serious problems will often benefit from staying on 25

drops three times a day for one to three weeks, then tapering down to 25

drops two times daily until the problem is resolved (possibly as long as six

months).

Those with chronic systemic Candidiasis may need to start with 1 drop

three times a day, then 2 drops three times a day before starting the above

schedule.

It is important that H202 be taken on an empty stomach. This is best

accomplished by taking it either one hour before meals or three hours after

meals. If there is food in the stomach, the reaction of H202 on any bacteria

present may cause excess foaming, indigestion, and possibly even vomiting.

Additionally, some animal research indicates that when H202 given orally

combines with iron and small amounts of vitamin C in the stomach, hydroxyl

radicals are created (J Inorg Biochem 89;35(1):55-69).

The bleach-like after-taste of H202 can be lessened by chewing one of the

sugar-free cinnamon gums.

Some individuals taking H202 immediately before bedtime have a difficult

time getting to sleep. This is probably due to a sense of alertness

triggered by an increase of oxygen at the cellular level.

The oral dosage schedule is basically the same for all conditions. There

are several points to keep in mind, however.

Some individuals may experience upset stomach. If this occurs it is

recommended that one not stop the program, but rather remain at the current

dosage level or reduce it to the previous level until the problem stops.

(Some patients have been able to solve the nausea problem by taking three or

four lecithin capsules at the same time they take the H202.)

During the program it's not uncommon to experience what is known as a

healing crisis. As dead bacteria and toxins are released from your body it

may temporarily exceed your capacity to eliminate them quickly enough.

In some individuals this overload may cause fatigue, diarrhea, headaches,

skin eruptions, cold or flu-like symptoms, and/or nausea. One should not

discontinue using the peroxide to stop this cleansing. By continuing the

program, toxins will clear the body sooner and this healing crisis will pass

rather quickly.

If you are not already taking vitamin E and an acidophilus product, I

recommend starting them before going on H202. Vitamin E can make more

efficient use of any oxygen available and acidophilus will help re-establish

the beneficial bacterial flora in the lower bowel and also help in the

internal production of hydrogen peroxide.

on 11/26/04 2:50 PM, MarkGreen@... at MarkGreen@...

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> Hello,

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> Is there a specific protocol I can refer to for the food grade H202 therapy.

>

> Mark

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Mark,

So sorry--I keep forgetting. I guess a sign to take some more h2o2. Here

it is, and then when you get there, just click and travel around until you

find all that meets with your interest and personal needs.

Sasha

http://www.dfwx.com/geodiscuss.html

-- Re: Re: *H2O2 or O3 Therapy

In a message dated 11/27/2004 3:59:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,

sasha@... writes:

www.dfwx.com

Are you sure about that website? I got a wedding site.

Mark

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