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> From: " Skari, M " <SkariPM@...>

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> >E3280S@... writes:

> > I am also going to try to get a homocystine test done.

>

> DO have this done! - It is indicator of heart disease. Mine was done this

> summer and was very high.

>

> And don't let a doc talk you out of it

>

> [Patti:] And they will. I let my docs talk me out of this test for a

year.

I believe you can get the homocystine test without a prescription from the

Life Extension Foundation at www.lef.org. I think they have DHEA and a few

others too. A useful resource if your doc is really stubborn; I wish they

had more stuff.

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my internist told me that folic acid reduces homocysteine.

I had mine tested when I read that CFS sufferers had high levels. Mine was

OK, but my internist told me I should take folic acid anyway. At the time my

level was taken I was on a suitcasefull of supplements, so maybe something I

was taking was keeping my level down.

Barb

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From the oral surgeon who ordered extensive coagulation studies prior to my

cavitation surgery, I have a genetic defect (not in the ISAC genetic panel),

that will increase homocysteine in the blood. My homocysteine is not high,

probably because I was already taking his recommendations, although one of

them was not in high enough amounts. I'm not sure why your homocysteine is

high, or if this is a generic question, but I was told to take B-12 (can't

remember the dosage off hand but my hydroxy B-12 injections are ample), 100

mg B-6, and 2 mg folic acid twice a day. Maybe someone more knowledgeable

than I about generic recommendations can add to this.

Donna in NC

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> anyone happen to know of supplements/herbs that will lower homocysteine

levels?

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I'm not sure why your homocysteine is

> high, or if this is a generic question, but I was told to take B-12

(can't

> remember the dosage off hand but my hydroxy B-12 injections are

ample), 100

> mg B-6, and 2 mg folic acid twice a day. Maybe someone more

knowledgeable

> than I about generic recommendations can add to this.

> Donna in NC

>

Hi Donna,

Homocysteine is high because infections are depleting Vit-B12 in

the body. Dr. Stratton from Vanderbilt-Univ requested that B12 levels

& Homocycsteine be checked when testing for the Chlmydia-P he was

studing. Co-porphyrins were also checked in his protocol.

Al

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I don't pay much attention because I don't have them, but they talk about things

a lot in my LEF magazine. Go to LEF.org and type homocysteine into the search

engine and you will find out what works.

Doris

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on 12/04/01 2:42 pm, Judith Gilbert at jaegilbert@... wrote:

> hi folks -

>

> anyone happen to know of supplements/herbs that will lower homocysteine

> levels? Thanks for any info,

>

> Judith G

at least 15 mg of folic acid per day. Higher if you already have raised

homocysteine. You must get a prescription for 5 mg folic acid tablets b/c

the ones in the healthfood store, etc., are all 1 mg or less, by law I

believe. so one is best getting folic acid supplements through the

pharmacy. I've been taking 3 5 mg folic acid tablets per day for 2 years

maybe.

I highly recommend Dr Atkins' books such as _Dr. atkins vitanutrient

solution_ and _Dr. atkins age defying diet_. He was the one who convinced

me that it is a very good idea to take folic acid supplements--about 15 mg

per day for the average person--b/c it is the single most common nutrient

deficiency in Americans. I think it was 41% of the population is deficient

in folic acid and could benefit from supplementation.

--

Hud (8 >{D)

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I'm way behind in reading e-mail, but thought I'd add that TMG helps lower

homocysteine, even in individuals that don't have success with just folic

acid, b-12 and b-6.

lindaj@...

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> hi folks -

>

> anyone happen to know of supplements/herbs that will lower homocysteine

> levels? Thanks for any info,

>

> Judith G

>

>

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> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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> I saw this message below and thought you might be able to shed some

> light ... what is homocysteine? Any relation to the cysteine that I

> think you've been talking about?

>

> The association between high levels of homocysteine and dementia -

> including Alzheimer's disease - has been observed in epidemiological

> studies and confirmed case-control studies in which patients with with

> vascular dementia and Alzheimer's disease had higher levels of

> homocysteine than did healthy people.

>

> I read online that high levels of homocysteine can indicate a B12

> deficiency, which I think I have.

>

Homocysteine is a free radical producing metabolite of methionine and

cysteine, and high levels are linked to many oxidative stress

disorders, such as heart disease, in addition to Alzheimer's. It can

and should be recycled back to methionine with b6, b12 and folate

through a process called 'methylation', giving up a methyl molecule.

Duncan Crow

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Thanks, Duncan.

> >

> > I saw this message below and thought you might be able to shed

some

> > light ... what is homocysteine? Any relation to the cysteine

that I

> > think you've been talking about?

> >

> > The association between high levels of homocysteine and

dementia -

> > including Alzheimer's disease - has been observed in

epidemiological

> > studies and confirmed case-control studies in which patients

with with

> > vascular dementia and Alzheimer's disease had higher levels of

> > homocysteine than did healthy people.

> >

> > I read online that high levels of homocysteine can indicate a B12

> > deficiency, which I think I have.

> >

>

> Homocysteine is a free radical producing metabolite of methionine

and

> cysteine, and high levels are linked to many oxidative stress

> disorders, such as heart disease, in addition to Alzheimer's. It

can

> and should be recycled back to methionine with b6, b12 and folate

> through a process called 'methylation', giving up a methyl

molecule.

>

> Duncan Crow

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great another on the B12 hunt.

have a look at my last post...

bleu

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> This is what I meant to spell out " Homocysteine " .

> You need high dose B-12 , Folic acid and Magnesium to neutralize

> Homocysteine - takes all 3. Folic acid by itself can make you B-12

> anemic even if blood levels are normal and B-12 needs folic acid to

> work and they both need magnesium [ extra B-6 helps too ]

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> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

> each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

> treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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