Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 Now you're talking... the candida diet is no cure, its just cruel. johng > Okay, so I downloaded Adreas Moritz's book, " The Key to Total Health > and Rejuvination " today. I read the chapter on the mind-body > conncetion and it made a lot of sense to me. He talks about how > being happy creates good chemicals in our bodies thus making us feel > good. So I thought about what makes me happy and what makes me > depressed and sad. For the last month I have been on the super > strict candida diet. Not being able to have grains and some of my > favorite snacks and foods (popcorn, potatoes, pancakes, etc...) has > been very depressing for me. So is this diet doing my body more harm > than good??? I will never go back to eating refined sugar and carbs, > but would be oh so happy to have wheat, oatmeal, rice, legumes, and > all of those other yummy carbs back. > What do you all think? > Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 Jen, Have you read the section yet on determining if you are vata, pitta, kapha. The dietary suggestions are in there and you may be pleasantly surprised.. mind-body connection Okay, so I downloaded Adreas Moritz's book, " The Key to Total Health and Rejuvination " today. I read the chapter on the mind-body conncetion and it made a lot of sense to me. He talks about how being happy creates good chemicals in our bodies thus making us feel good. So I thought about what makes me happy and what makes me depressed and sad. For the last month I have been on the super strict candida diet. Not being able to have grains and some of my favorite snacks and foods (popcorn, potatoes, pancakes, etc...) has been very depressing for me. So is this diet doing my body more harm than good??? I will never go back to eating refined sugar and carbs, but would be oh so happy to have wheat, oatmeal, rice, legumes, and all of those other yummy carbs back. What do you all think? Jen Candidiasis stories: http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=41 http://CureZone.com/dis/ http://CureZone.com/diseases/parasites/ List Unsubscribe: candidiasis-unsubscribe Post message: candidiasis Group page: candidiasis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 > Jen, > > Have you read the section yet on determining if you are vata, pitta, > kapha. The dietary suggestions are in there and you may be pleasantly > surprised.. > > > > I haven't gotten that far yet, but if it lets me eat carbs, I will be very happy! Jen > > > > mind-body connection > > > > Okay, so I downloaded Adreas Moritz's book, " The Key to Total Health > and Rejuvination " today. I read the chapter on the mind-body > conncetion and it made a lot of sense to me. He talks about how > being happy creates good chemicals in our bodies thus making us feel > good. So I thought about what makes me happy and what makes me > depressed and sad. For the last month I have been on the super > strict candida diet. Not being able to have grains and some of my > favorite snacks and foods (popcorn, potatoes, pancakes, etc...) has > been very depressing for me. So is this diet doing my body more harm > than good??? I will never go back to eating refined sugar and carbs, > but would be oh so happy to have wheat, oatmeal, rice, legumes, and > all of those other yummy carbs back. > What do you all think? > Jen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 .. For the last month I have been on the super > strict candida diet. Not being able to have grains and some of my > favorite snacks and foods (popcorn, potatoes, pancakes, etc...) has > been very depressing for me. So is this diet doing my body more harm > than good??? I will never go back to eating refined sugar and carbs, > but would be oh so happy to have wheat, oatmeal, rice, legumes, and > all of those other yummy carbs back. > What do you all think? > Jen > Hi Jen: If you're itching to eat something, try it - then listen to your body - it'll somehow let you know if it doesn't tolerate something. And is the diet doing more harm than good? I wouldn't think so. What are you mostly being asked to cut out? - processed flours and sugars and dairy, probably. All things that " gum up the works " so to speak. But as for oats and whole wheat and brown rice etc, my Naturopath told me to omit them from my diet for a number of weeks and then introduce them back into the diet slowly. You could be pleasantly surprised. In my case, after months I still can't eat sweet fruit or oats (tried them yesterday - ugh - very uncomfortable bloating - not worth it). But then, I know my candida isn't under control - and won't be until I address the underlying reason the Candida hangs on. cheers - p .. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 > > > > . For the last month I have been on the super > > strict candida diet. Not being able to have grains and some of my > > favorite snacks and foods (popcorn, potatoes, pancakes, etc...) has > > been very depressing for me. So is this diet doing my body more harm > > than good??? I will never go back to eating refined sugar and carbs, > > but would be oh so happy to have wheat, oatmeal, rice, legumes, and > > all of those other yummy carbs back. > > What do you all think? > > Jen > > > > Hi Jen: If you're itching to eat something, try it - then listen to your > body - it'll somehow let you know if it doesn't tolerate something. > > And is the diet doing more harm than good? I wouldn't think so. What are > you mostly being asked to cut out? - processed flours and sugars and dairy, > probably. All things that " gum up the works " so to speak. But as for oats > and whole wheat and brown rice etc, my Naturopath told me to omit them from > my diet for a number of weeks and then introduce them back into the diet > slowly. You could be pleasantly surprised. > > In my case, after months I still can't eat sweet fruit or oats (tried them > yesterday - ugh - very uncomfortable bloating - not worth it). But then, I > know my candida isn't under control - and won't be until I address the > underlying reason the Candida hangs on. > > cheers - p Thanks for the support Penny- I was on the very strict diet for 1 month. When I added grains and fruit back in, my sore throat got pretty bad again. However, I was never able to completly get rid of my post-nasal drip and sore throat on the strict diet. I would rather my throat hurt slightly more and eat what I want. As for my abdominal pain and bloating; I can control that by food combining. It is when I mix carbs and protein that I get in trouble. I am on chapter 5 of Moritz's book " The Key to Total Health and Rejuvination " and begenning to develop hope again. Good luck to you! Jen > > . > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 I heard a great thing on an Robbins tape. It said when you feel the health and vitality from eating mostly raw vegetables and feel better it is worth anything you could put in your mouth. The FEELING BETTER is good..But feeling alive, energetic and young again is the carrot so to speak to stay on track. I am one who loves sweets and I have thought of this. He also says Americans are digging their graves with their teeth. So whether you are doing candida, Alkaline diet or whatever. I think this is a good thing to think about...If I could feel like I did years ago. Always loads of energy and focus I would eat whatever did that. For me switching to mostly raw veggeis, little starch, fresh juice and the whey and the whey and inulin...alson with a super green and Ph from Dr Young..the ozonated olive oil from Dr Pressman...I have finally in over a year and a half had nights I sleep through the inght. And my rectal itching has almost stopped. Now if I had more critical symptoms like some then it would really be easier to CHOOSE. I think sometimes we focus so much on our illnesses we dont get better. I suggest focusing every day on the improvement and sticking with whatever you have chosen. If that doesnt help you then read more and do more. I have done a little of everything..not that that is the protocol for everyone but it is working for me. If I illiminate one thing and get symptoms I will take it again. I really think the diet change is the most cruicial..as you said..dont eat things that are going to clog up the already clogged system. I love this forum...and everyone who contributes here gigiPenny <penelopea@...> wrote: .. For the last month I have been on the super> strict candida diet. Not being able to have grains and some of my> favorite snacks and foods (popcorn, potatoes, pancakes, etc...) has> been very depressing for me. So is this diet doing my body more harm> than good??? I will never go back to eating refined sugar and carbs,> but would be oh so happy to have wheat, oatmeal, rice, legumes, and> all of those other yummy carbs back.> What do you all think?> Jen>Hi Jen: If you're itching to eat something, try it - then listen to yourbody - it'll somehow let you know if it doesn't tolerate something.And is the diet doing more harm than good? I wouldn't think so. What areyou mostly being asked to cut out? - processed flours and sugars and dairy,probably. All things that "gum up the works" so to speak. But as for oatsand whole wheat and brown rice etc, my Naturopath told me to omit them frommy diet for a number of weeks and then introduce them back into the dietslowly. You could be pleasantly surprised.In my case, after months I still can't eat sweet fruit or oats (tried themyesterday - ugh - very uncomfortable bloating - not worth it). But then, Iknow my candida isn't under control - and won't be until I address theunderlying reason the Candida hangs on.cheers - p.>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 > > > > . For the last month I have been on the super > > strict candida diet. Not being able to have grains and some of my > > favorite snacks and foods (popcorn, potatoes, pancakes, etc...) has > > been very depressing for me. So is this diet doing my body more harm > > than good??? I will never go back to eating refined sugar and carbs, > > but would be oh so happy to have wheat, oatmeal, rice, legumes, and > > all of those other yummy carbs back. > > What do you all think? > > Jen > > > > Hi Jen: If you're itching to eat something, try it - then listen to your > body - it'll somehow let you know if it doesn't tolerate something. > > And is the diet doing more harm than good? I wouldn't think so. What are > you mostly being asked to cut out? - processed flours and sugars and dairy, > probably. All things that " gum up the works " so to speak. But as for oats > and whole wheat and brown rice etc, my Naturopath told me to omit them from > my diet for a number of weeks and then introduce them back into the diet > slowly. You could be pleasantly surprised. > > In my case, after months I still can't eat sweet fruit or oats (tried them > yesterday - ugh - very uncomfortable bloating - not worth it). But then, I > know my candida isn't under control - and won't be until I address the > underlying reason the Candida hangs on. > > cheers - p > > . > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 I totally agree with you ! Re: mind-body connection Now you're talking... the candida diet is no cure, its just cruel. johng > Okay, so I downloaded Adreas Moritz's book, " The Key to Total Health > and Rejuvination " today. I read the chapter on the mind-body > conncetion and it made a lot of sense to me. He talks about how > being happy creates good chemicals in our bodies thus making us feel > good. So I thought about what makes me happy and what makes me > depressed and sad. For the last month I have been on the super > strict candida diet. Not being able to have grains and some of my > favorite snacks and foods (popcorn, potatoes, pancakes, etc...) has > been very depressing for me. So is this diet doing my body more harm > than good??? I will never go back to eating refined sugar and carbs, > but would be oh so happy to have wheat, oatmeal, rice, legumes, and > all of those other yummy carbs back. > What do you all think? > Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 I don't think anyone can argue that the diet is fun. It's damned hard. And of course it isn't a cure - as soon as you go off it, trouble brews. But for some of us - especially those with mercury poisoning - it's the only way to alleviate the worst symptoms which allow us to lead some kind of life. It's a temporary bridge until we get our other problems solved. I am so happy for the people on this list who have done the liver flushes with much success. But with all due respect, I do get a bit weary of the thought that they are cure-all for everyone and everybody. Re: Re: mind-body connection > And if it is one of the super strict ones, it is also > malnuroushment! > *8-) > > --- jcgre <johngrellner@...> wrote: > > Now you're talking... the candida diet is no cure, > > its just cruel. > > > > johng > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 I'm not sure anyone said it was a " cure all " . actually the liver flushes are just one part of wholistic program including healthful diet and lifestyle changes, meditation and exercise. You may have heard it many times, but every day new people read the list and are looking for possible answers. That this information annoys you is not something anyone (other than you) has any control over. Until you discover the path that leads you to health, how does it harm you to see this information? Besides, I've never heard anyone say that toxicity problems like mercury poisoning prevent one from flushing. I would think anyone could incorporate this into their program if they wanted to, even if it was just one step out of many that leads to health and happiness. g > > > Now you're talking... the candida diet is no cure, > > > its just cruel. > > > > > > johng > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 In a message dated 3/18/04 5:55:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, jen@... writes: If anyone out there has had a bad reaction from the liver flush, I would love to know. I want to be fully aware of the risks I am taking. Jen, I can't say about anyone else's experiences, but I can tell you mine. I started flushing four years ago after I read Dr. 's book. Way before I ever heard of s or his books. (and before I heard of Candida for that matter) I did my first flush and I will admit I was scared. I was sicker then a dog, had just broken my neck and life was miserable. But I did it. One thing Dr. recomends is taking Orthonine so you can sleep, and I am glad I did cause it would have been a bad night without it. I released many toxins and felt pretty bad, but that all went away the next day when I was so fascinated with the 2000+ stones I passed. It was amazing. I felt great......then well life catches up with you. I have done 5 to date, spaced 6 months apart. I got really sick once and threw up all night, and with another I was up shaking and sweating like crazy for about 3 minutes. That day I passed a stone that was the size of the top joint of my thumb. It was huge. So do I think they are worth it.....yes I do. I know they will make me nauseous and I will feel creepy and not want to move the next day, but for the week after I feel great. High energy. Etc. I know I will be up some of the night nauseous, so I make a nest on the couch and watch HBO all night. Planning makes it much easier. Now I just have to stomach the thought of doing them back to back.....I hate don't like citrus fruits at all so it is hard.... Just make the decision that is comfortable for you. It is painless, and for some there are no other effects. It does taste gross, but cinnamon makes a good chaser. Hanida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 Penny, Have you tried the liver flush? Did it not work for you? I have been contemplating trying one because everyone here raves about them. I have never heard a bad comment about the liver flush or Adreas Moritz's books. I am open to anything and would be really interested to hear all opinions on the matter. Thanks, Jen > > > Now you're talking... the candida diet is no cure, > > > its just cruel. > > > > > > johng > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 First of all Jen, I guess I should apologize to you and all the other nice people here. I 'm having a bad day - and you know what that can be like - fatigue, frustration - I guess I'm just jealous that I can't do a few liver flushes and have my life back in short order! LOL. And I certainly hope I didn't start anything with my impulsive (read " bad mood " ) post. If there's anything everyone on this thread needs, its less stress, more serenity. So again, sorry. But I think there may be one or two people on here for whom the liver flushes are not the answer right now. Liver CLEANSE by all means - it's one of the best things you can do for your body - and another reason why I am of the opinion that the Candida diet is healthy. You aren't gumming up your liver with carbs but instead are eating organic veggies, etc., and giving your liver a chance to recover. Because if you've got Candida, your liver is most probably overburdened. I haven't ever done a liver flush, for a number reasons. First let me say that I was, of course, most curious about the liver flushes because there are people here who say they've had their life turned around because of them. And how great is that!! So I downloaded s Moritz, " The Key to Health and Rejuvenation " and eagerly read it in one sitting. And I got a lot out of it. And I refer to it frequently. I've started dry brushing. Drinking lots of Pau D'Arco tea. And so forth. But I never follow anyone's " teachings " to the letter. I know my own body and a lot of the stuff AM advised, would cause me more stress than relief. Lets take, for instance, whether I'm a Pita or whatever. My scores for the three body types were about even, so how the heck was I supposed to handle THAT? Too stressful to even think about. And the bit about going to bed at 10:30 at the latest? Ha! Great advice for the early birds of the world but there are a few of us old night owls still around. For some reason, we seem to be like the Lefties of the world, everyone's always trying to change us. I LIKE it late at night - it's the only time I get any peace after everyone else has hit the sack. But enough about A. Moritz and I. Another reason I held back on the flush was that I heard the word " nausea " too often. We all have our Achilles heel. I " m already taking some pretty nasty stuff so the threat of olive oil and Epsom salts doesn't phase me. Diahorrea I can handle. Even stomach pain. But don't give me nausea. And then a couple of months ago, someone on this forum brought up the topic of mercury amalgams and I was off down that road. And oh what I discovered! For fifteen years I've felt like Alice in Wonderland - opening doors and finding all sorts of bizzaro stuff advice-wise. But the mercury connection sounds like it might be my reality. The reason for my candida hanging on despite four months of virtue diet-wise (C. actually helps deal with the mercury overload). So, yeah, my liver needs TLC - my whole body does - but according to my Naturopath a flush would be way too hard on it now. Try reading some of Dr. Vinograd's posts on the CureZone and you'll hear stories from people who did LF's who aren't feeling too awfully swift weeks afterward. (BTW, Naturopaths are familiar with flushes - if mine advises one later down the line, I'll do one - but it will be under his supervision. We all have different bodies.) And that's my story Jen (and I'd love to hear others) - sorry I was so verbose and thanks for asking. Cheers - Penny Re: mind-body connection > Penny, > Have you tried the liver flush? Did it not work for you? I have been > contemplating trying one because everyone here raves about them. I > have never heard a bad comment about the liver flush or Adreas > Moritz's books. I am open to anything and would be really interested > to hear all opinions on the matter. > Thanks, > Jen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 Thanks for you post Penny- I am in the middle of reading " The Key to Health and Rejuvenation " . I like some of the things it says, yet other things bother me. Like what you are supposed to eat for different body types. If I followed it, I would be eleminating garlic and green veggies. Garlic is key in fighting candida, and green veggies have lots of calcium, etc... I do want to try the cleanses, however. If there is any chance that something will work, then I will try it at least once. Thanks again for your 2 cents! If anyone out there has had a bad reaction from the liver flush, I would love to know. I want to be fully aware of the risks I am taking. Thanks again! Jen > First of all Jen, I guess I should apologize to you and all the other nice > people here. I 'm having a bad day - and you know what that can be like - > fatigue, frustration - I guess I'm just jealous that I can't do a few liver > flushes and have my life back in short order! LOL. > > And I certainly hope I didn't start anything with my impulsive (read " bad > mood " ) post. If there's anything everyone on this thread needs, its less > stress, more serenity. So again, sorry. > > But I think there may be one or two people on here for whom the liver > flushes are not the answer right now. Liver CLEANSE by all means - it's one > of the best things you can do for your body - and another reason why I am of > the opinion that the Candida diet is healthy. You aren't gumming up your > liver with carbs but instead are eating organic veggies, etc., and giving > your liver a chance to recover. Because if you've got Candida, your liver > is most probably overburdened. > > I haven't ever done a liver flush, for a number reasons. First let me say > that I was, of course, most curious about the liver flushes because there > are people here who say they've had their life turned around because of > them. And how great is that!! > > So I downloaded s Moritz, " The Key to Health and Rejuvenation " and > eagerly read it in one sitting. And I got a lot out of it. And I refer to > it frequently. I've started dry brushing. Drinking lots of Pau D'Arco tea. > And so forth. But I never follow anyone's " teachings " to the letter. I > know my own body and a lot of the stuff AM advised, would cause me more > stress than relief. > > Lets take, for instance, whether I'm a Pita or whatever. My scores for the > three body types were about even, so how the heck was I supposed to handle > THAT? Too stressful to even think about. And the bit about going to bed at > 10:30 at the latest? Ha! Great advice for the early birds of the world but > there are a few of us old night owls still around. For some reason, we seem > to be like the Lefties of the world, everyone's always trying to change us. > I LIKE it late at night - it's the only time I get any peace after everyone > else has hit the sack. > > But enough about A. Moritz and I. > > Another reason I held back on the flush was that I heard the word " nausea " > too often. We all have our Achilles heel. I " m already taking some pretty > nasty stuff so the threat of olive oil and Epsom salts doesn't phase me. > Diahorrea I can handle. Even stomach pain. But don't give me nausea. > > And then a couple of months ago, someone on this forum brought up the topic > of mercury amalgams and I was off down that road. And oh what I discovered! > For fifteen years I've felt like Alice in Wonderland - opening doors and > finding all sorts of bizzaro stuff advice-wise. But the mercury connection > sounds like it might be my reality. The reason for my candida hanging on > despite four months of virtue diet-wise (C. actually helps deal with the > mercury overload). So, yeah, my liver needs TLC - my whole body does - but > according to my Naturopath a flush would be way too hard on it now. Try > reading some of Dr. Vinograd's posts on the CureZone and you'll hear > stories from people who did LF's who aren't feeling too awfully swift weeks > afterward. (BTW, Naturopaths are familiar with flushes - if mine advises > one later down the line, I'll do one - but it will be under his supervision. > We all have different bodies.) > > And that's my story Jen (and I'd love to hear others) - sorry I was so > verbose and thanks for asking. > > Cheers - Penny > > > > > Re: mind-body connection > > > > Penny, > > Have you tried the liver flush? Did it not work for you? I have been > > contemplating trying one because everyone here raves about them. I > > have never heard a bad comment about the liver flush or Adreas > > Moritz's books. I am open to anything and would be really interested > > to hear all opinions on the matter. > > Thanks, > > Jen > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 Jen- When reading the eating guidlines, look close and you will see most are not set in stone, usually the thrust is to emphasize certain foods and de-emphasize others. and whether the vegetables are cooked also makes a difference. Re garlic, I think he says cooked is ok, but, be aware that there is a whole school of thought out there to the effect that raw garlic is a toxin whatever its effects on yeast and bacteria. I can't remember if s discusses this or not, but if you search the net, you will find much conflicting info on garlic. johng > > First of all Jen, I guess I should apologize to you and all the > other nice > > people here. I 'm having a bad day - and you know what that can > be like - > > fatigue, frustration - I guess I'm just jealous that I can't do a > few liver > > flushes and have my life back in short order! LOL. > > > > And I certainly hope I didn't start anything with my impulsive > (read " bad > > mood " ) post. If there's anything everyone on this thread needs, > its less > > stress, more serenity. So again, sorry. > > > > But I think there may be one or two people on here for whom the > liver > > flushes are not the answer right now. Liver CLEANSE by all means - > it's one > > of the best things you can do for your body - and another reason > why I am of > > the opinion that the Candida diet is healthy. You aren't gumming > up your > > liver with carbs but instead are eating organic veggies, etc., and > giving > > your liver a chance to recover. Because if you've got Candida, > your liver > > is most probably overburdened. > > > > I haven't ever done a liver flush, for a number reasons. First > let me say > > that I was, of course, most curious about the liver flushes > because there > > are people here who say they've had their life turned around > because of > > them. And how great is that!! > > > > So I downloaded s Moritz, " The Key to Health and > Rejuvenation " and > > eagerly read it in one sitting. And I got a lot out of it. And I > refer to > > it frequently. I've started dry brushing. Drinking lots of Pau > D'Arco tea. > > And so forth. But I never follow anyone's " teachings " to the > letter. I > > know my own body and a lot of the stuff AM advised, would cause > me more > > stress than relief. > > > > Lets take, for instance, whether I'm a Pita or whatever. My > scores for the > > three body types were about even, so how the heck was I supposed > to handle > > THAT? Too stressful to even think about. And the bit about going > to bed at > > 10:30 at the latest? Ha! Great advice for the early birds of the > world but > > there are a few of us old night owls still around. For some > reason, we seem > > to be like the Lefties of the world, everyone's always trying to > change us. > > I LIKE it late at night - it's the only time I get any peace after > everyone > > else has hit the sack. > > > > But enough about A. Moritz and I. > > > > Another reason I held back on the flush was that I heard the > word " nausea " > > too often. We all have our Achilles heel. I " m already taking > some pretty > > nasty stuff so the threat of olive oil and Epsom salts doesn't > phase me. > > Diahorrea I can handle. Even stomach pain. But don't give me > nausea. > > > > And then a couple of months ago, someone on this forum brought up > the topic > > of mercury amalgams and I was off down that road. And oh what I > discovered! > > For fifteen years I've felt like Alice in Wonderland - opening > doors and > > finding all sorts of bizzaro stuff advice-wise. But the mercury > connection > > sounds like it might be my reality. The reason for my candida > hanging on > > despite four months of virtue diet-wise (C. actually helps deal > with the > > mercury overload). So, yeah, my liver needs TLC - my whole body > does - but > > according to my Naturopath a flush would be way too hard on it > now. Try > > reading some of Dr. Vinograd's posts on the CureZone and you'll > hear > > stories from people who did LF's who aren't feeling too awfully > swift weeks > > afterward. (BTW, Naturopaths are familiar with flushes - if mine > advises > > one later down the line, I'll do one - but it will be under his > supervision. > > We all have different bodies.) > > > > And that's my story Jen (and I'd love to hear others) - sorry I > was so > > verbose and thanks for asking. > > > > Cheers - Penny > > > > > > > > > > Re: mind-body connection > > > > > > > Penny, > > > Have you tried the liver flush? Did it not work for you? I have > been > > > contemplating trying one because everyone here raves about them. > I > > > have never heard a bad comment about the liver flush or Adreas > > > Moritz's books. I am open to anything and would be really > interested > > > to hear all opinions on the matter. > > > Thanks, > > > Jen > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 Dear Penny, Don't force any event if you don't feel completely comfortable with it. There will be the right time to do it..... All the best to you Simona Re: Re: mind-body connection First of all Jen, I guess I should apologize to you and all the other nice people here. I 'm having a bad day - and you know what that can be like - fatigue, frustration - I guess I'm just jealous that I can't do a few liver flushes and have my life back in short order! LOL. And I certainly hope I didn't start anything with my impulsive (read " bad mood " ) post. If there's anything everyone on this thread needs, its less stress, more serenity. So again, sorry. But I think there may be one or two people on here for whom the liver flushes are not the answer right now. Liver CLEANSE by all means - it's one of the best things you can do for your body - and another reason why I am of the opinion that the Candida diet is healthy. You aren't gumming up your liver with carbs but instead are eating organic veggies, etc., and giving your liver a chance to recover. Because if you've got Candida, your liver is most probably overburdened. I haven't ever done a liver flush, for a number reasons. First let me say that I was, of course, most curious about the liver flushes because there are people here who say they've had their life turned around because of them. And how great is that!! So I downloaded s Moritz, " The Key to Health and Rejuvenation " and eagerly read it in one sitting. And I got a lot out of it. And I refer to it frequently. I've started dry brushing. Drinking lots of Pau D'Arco tea. And so forth. But I never follow anyone's " teachings " to the letter. I know my own body and a lot of the stuff AM advised, would cause me more stress than relief. Lets take, for instance, whether I'm a Pita or whatever. My scores for the three body types were about even, so how the heck was I supposed to handle THAT? Too stressful to even think about. And the bit about going to bed at 10:30 at the latest? Ha! Great advice for the early birds of the world but there are a few of us old night owls still around. For some reason, we seem to be like the Lefties of the world, everyone's always trying to change us. I LIKE it late at night - it's the only time I get any peace after everyone else has hit the sack. But enough about A. Moritz and I. Another reason I held back on the flush was that I heard the word " nausea " too often. We all have our Achilles heel. I " m already taking some pretty nasty stuff so the threat of olive oil and Epsom salts doesn't phase me. Diahorrea I can handle. Even stomach pain. But don't give me nausea. And then a couple of months ago, someone on this forum brought up the topic of mercury amalgams and I was off down that road. And oh what I discovered! For fifteen years I've felt like Alice in Wonderland - opening doors and finding all sorts of bizzaro stuff advice-wise. But the mercury connection sounds like it might be my reality. The reason for my candida hanging on despite four months of virtue diet-wise (C. actually helps deal with the mercury overload). So, yeah, my liver needs TLC - my whole body does - but according to my Naturopath a flush would be way too hard on it now. Try reading some of Dr. Vinograd's posts on the CureZone and you'll hear stories from people who did LF's who aren't feeling too awfully swift weeks afterward. (BTW, Naturopaths are familiar with flushes - if mine advises one later down the line, I'll do one - but it will be under his supervision. We all have different bodies.) And that's my story Jen (and I'd love to hear others) - sorry I was so verbose and thanks for asking. Cheers - Penny Re: mind-body connection > Penny, > Have you tried the liver flush? Did it not work for you? I have been > contemplating trying one because everyone here raves about them. I > have never heard a bad comment about the liver flush or Adreas > Moritz's books. I am open to anything and would be really interested > to hear all opinions on the matter. > Thanks, > Jen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 In a message dated 3/19/04 3:14:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, Simona.LIGI@... writes: I'm ready for my first this evening Simona, Let us know how you do! Best of luck, Hanida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Thanks Hanida for this post. I'm ready for my first this evening...I'm just thrilled! It's so pleasant to hear of such successfully tentative...I perfectly know that each one of us is individual but this does not prevent me to go on with this path. All the best always Simona Re: Re: mind-body connection In a message dated 3/18/04 5:55:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, jen@... writes: If anyone out there has had a bad reaction from the liver flush, I would love to know. I want to be fully aware of the risks I am taking. Jen, I can't say about anyone else's experiences, but I can tell you mine. I started flushing four years ago after I read Dr. 's book. Way before I ever heard of s or his books. (and before I heard of Candida for that matter) I did my first flush and I will admit I was scared. I was sicker then a dog, had just broken my neck and life was miserable. But I did it. One thing Dr. recomends is taking Orthonine so you can sleep, and I am glad I did cause it would have been a bad night without it. I released many toxins and felt pretty bad, but that all went away the next day when I was so fascinated with the 2000+ stones I passed. It was amazing. I felt great......then well life catches up with you. I have done 5 to date, spaced 6 months apart. I got really sick once and threw up all night, and with another I was up shaking and sweating like crazy for about 3 minutes. That day I passed a stone that was the size of the top joint of my thumb. It was huge. So do I think they are worth it.....yes I do. I know they will make me nauseous and I will feel creepy and not want to move the next day, but for the week after I feel great. High energy. Etc. I know I will be up some of the night nauseous, so I make a nest on the couch and watch HBO all night. Planning makes it much easier. Now I just have to stomach the thought of doing them back to back.....I hate don't like citrus fruits at all so it is hard.... Just make the decision that is comfortable for you. It is painless, and for some there are no other effects. It does taste gross, but cinnamon makes a good chaser. Hanida Candidiasis stories: http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=41 http://CureZone.com/dis/ http://CureZone.com/diseases/parasites/ List Unsubscribe: candidiasis-unsubscribe Post message: candidiasis Group page: candidiasis *************************E-MAIL CONFIDENTIALITY FOOTER********************** This message may contain confidential information and must not be copied, disclosed or used by anybody other than the intended recipient. If you have received this message in error, please notify us writing to postmaster@... and delete the message and any copies of it. Thank you for your assistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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