Re: Re: Re: Fatigue - mycoplasma

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> Actually, the amino acids we have (Dr. Vickery) in combination with

> essential fatty acids and other bits and pieces that support your body

> to deal with bowel dysbiosis have been able to fix even the most

> stubborn problems.

The essential amino acids are also present in the correct ratio in

the cold-processed whey Patriot is already taking, so I don't believe

Dr. Vickery's amino acids are necessary on top of that. I think we

agree that food is better if you can do it with food. Also, if one

takes these amino acids in addition to the whey one should consider a

possible excess of phenylalanine, which is undesireable.

What I would recommend is at least 60 grams cold-processed whey

daily, plus don't forget the 200-600 mcg selenium. I forgot to

mention this in my post above, but this highly bioavialible protein

addresses the protein deficiency noted by Dr. Vickery, and it is also

a bid to increase metabolic rate, thus healing speed and energy

levels too.

's right about the probiotic; a prebiotic with that, like

inulin or FOS, will make the probiotic unnecessary. What's more, it

will allow your native probiotic strains that are already present to

proliferate and outcompete on the bowel lining, as opposed to eating

strains but not feeding them so they can outcompete.

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

Hi Duncan

> > Actually, the amino acids we have (Dr. Vickery) in combination with

> > essential fatty acids and other bits and pieces that support your body

> > to deal with bowel dysbiosis have been able to fix even the most

> > stubborn problems.

>

> The essential amino acids are also present in the correct ratio in

> the cold-processed whey Patriot is already taking, so I don't believe

> Dr. Vickery's amino acids are necessary on top of that. I think we

> agree that food is better if you can do it with food. Also, if one

> takes these amino acids in addition to the whey one should consider a

> possible excess of phenylalanine, which is undesireable.

>

> What I would recommend is at least 60 grams cold-processed whey

> daily, plus don't forget the 200-600 mcg selenium. I forgot to

> mention this in my post above, but this highly bioavialible protein

> addresses the protein deficiency noted by Dr. Vickery, and it is also

> a bid to increase metabolic rate, thus healing speed and energy

> levels too.

I think you may be missing the point of free form amino acids - the reason

they have a high success rate is that they require no digestion. If you have

a failing or under-functioning digestive system, you will not be getting the

necessary repair materials from the food, even if it is the otherwise

wonderful whey. Free form aminos are the most bio-available material - no

digestion or processing required.

[Guest guest]

> I think you may be missing the point of free form amino acids - the

> reason they have a high success rate is that they require no

> digestion. If you have a failing or under-functioning digestive

> system, you will not be getting the necessary repair materials from

> the food, even if it is the otherwise wonderful whey. Free form aminos

> are the most bio-available material - no digestion or processing

> required.

>

>

Hi ,

No, I'm not missing your point on the bioavailability, without

digestion, of free-form amino acids. But in the case of cold-

processed whey you're making the mistake of assuming substantial

digestion is required before absorption.

The gist of my argument, put another way, is that cold-processed whey

isolate has the highest " biological value " of any protein source.

This is how we compare the absorption of proteins vs digestion

requied. Cold-processed whey requires almost no digestion; most of

the proteins have been predigested into peptides that are small

enough to be directly absorbed even by a newborn baby that has almost

no digestive capability. This makes cold-processed whey very useful

as a protein and essential amino acids source even for people with

very poor digestion.

The bonus is that all degenerative and age-related diseases, and most

chronic toxin-load related diseases are linked to low glutathione and

cold-processed whey is also a rich source of precursors for this

crucial antioxidant enzyme.

Once you see the science of glutathione decrease in illness and

glutathione increase in wellness, you'll understand the elegance and

profound effect this product produces can't be ignored or deprecated.

Bottom line is that once a person is using cold-processed whey for

its benefits, which can not be disputed, free-form essential amino

acids will not be required at all. There are plenty already present,

easily absorbed.

regards,

Duncan Crow

duncancrow/

[Guest guest]

Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:43:48 -0700

   From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fatigue - mycoplasma

> Bottom line is that once a person is using cold-processed whey for

> its benefits, which can not be disputed, free-form essential amino

> acids will not be required at all. There are plenty already present,

> easily absorbed.

>

> regards,

>

> Duncan Crow

> duncancrow/

Okay; I now understand about the amino acids, etc - but what if one

is highly reactive & allergic to cow's milk protein? I don't mean lactose

intolerant. I mean actually allergic to cow's milk protein in all and any form?

I have been told by my doctor as well as others (I tend not to like to take

one medical opinion), plus my own research that whey is a product of cow's

milk protein. I do take a product called Goatein which is make from goat's

milk and is a protein. (no association with the product nor company other then

as

a consumer) I have no problems with goat's milk in any form.

Blessings

Shan