Re: When is too much?

December 7, 2003

ellen

Sounds like you are on the same diet i am I wonder if you have it printed

on the net and could share

and i wonder if you have more meal plans you could share with me

I work in a German Restaurant and almost everything is laden with heavy

gravies

I have been having either a piece of steak or a grilled chicken breast with

salad most every day but then to come home and be faced with what to have when

im not at work is getting tiresome

Any suggestions???

h

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Subj: When is too much?

Date: 12/7/2003 8:27:20 PM Eastern Standard Time

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I've been doing the candida diet/supplements for about 2 months now

or so under the supervision of my doctor. Now I am pretty much on my

own to continue with this food program and I have a couple questions

I hope someone can help me with.

I feel great, so far my symptoms have mostly disappeared - at least

the most aggravating ones. I've dropped close to 15 lbs & am at

my " target " weight.

I have eliminated virtually all processed foods. I use only stevia as

a sweetener. No dairy. No boxed, packaged, canned, pre-made, etc. I

can eat 1 piece of fruit (no grape, melon, pineapple) per day. I can

use complex carbs in moderation - like brown rice, oats, whole wheat

flour, quinoa, etc.)

My question is what is moderation & how will I know what is too much?

A sample day is like this:

Breakfast: 2 eggs, 1 cup plain oatmeal

Snack: whole grain brown rice cake, butter

Lunch: salad - lettuce, tomato, cukes, carrots, chicken or beef

Snack: nuts or rye crisp cracker (only rye flour & water)

Dinner: meat, veggies, whole grain

Snack: popcorn or piece of fruit or apple muffin (from Yeast

Connection recipe)

Is that too much carbs? Or is it ok because they are not processed?

I'm not sure what moderation is & I don't want to eat too much of

them. Can anyone offer sugestions?

Thanks,

Ellen

December 8, 2003

> ellen

> Sounds like you are on the same diet i am I wonder if you have it

printed

> on the net and could share

I don't have anything printed up anywhere. I just try to vary it as

much as possible to avoid repetition. I wish people would post more

recipes as I get soooo tired of the same foods. I try to add in pork

& shrimp occasionally as meats too. Tonight I had a really good

shrimp stir fry that was great. This is the recipe if you want to try

it:

8 frozen ready to eat shrimp (already cooked/deveined)

1/2 small zucchini

1/2 small yellow squash

1 tbsp butter

garlic to taste

1/4 cup chopped tomato

sautee shrimp & garlic in butter until pink & warmed through. Add in

finely chopped zucchini, squash & tomato. Cook till tender. Add salt,

pepper & basil to taste.

Along with this I had some stevia Lemonade.

I'd love it if you shared some of your daily meal plans & I will do

the same. Maybe we can get some ideas from each other.

Thanks,

Ellen

December 8, 2003

Hey ladies,

Hate to burst your bubble, but according to other candida diets I've seen, I

think there are indeed too many carbs in that diet posted by Ellen.

I think the oatmeal (espeically if it's instant), carrots, and rice crackers

and fruit are probably a little too indulgent for the candida diet. From all

the info I've heard, the candida diet should be as strict as possible until

the body has gotten itself balanced again.

Believe me, I know this diet is hard because I've been on it for nearly 6

months now. It's hard has hell, but the longer you stick to it, the easier

it gets and then when the body has balanced, you can slowly test your body

to see if it reacts to any of the more " racy " foods.

Also, the more raw foods you can have in your diet, vegetables specifically,

the more nutrients you'll absorb. I can't remember if it was someone on this

message group, or one of the many people I've talked to about candida, but

if you think about what fattens up pigs, it's grains. So the less grains in

your diet, the better, in terms of weightloss and for the candida diet.

Best,

>

>Breakfast: 2 eggs, 1 cup plain oatmeal

>Snack: whole grain brown rice cake, butter

>Lunch: salad - lettuce, tomato, cukes, carrots, chicken or beef

>Snack: nuts or rye crisp cracker (only rye flour & water)

>Dinner: meat, veggies, whole grain

>Snack: popcorn or piece of fruit or apple muffin (from Yeast

>Connection recipe)

December 8, 2003

Well, I am by no means a doctor. However, I was told that pretty much every

fruit is a no-no. When I get a hankering for something sweet I usually go

for a bit of kefir w/ stevia mixed in it. I blend it in the blender and it

tastes like a smoothie. And when I am really feeling devious, I do something

like a no-carb chocolate bar. Yeah yeah, I know, that isn't the smartest

thing, but that is really every now and again. Plus I'm taking threelac and

a host of other stuff that I tell myself combats that kind of stuff.

If your doctor says you can have grapes, who am I to say you can't. I

actually don't even like telling people what they can or can't have. I just

wanted to let know that her diet might be pushing it in the carb

department.

My personal opinion though is that at the beginning of the Candida diet it's

really really important to stay as strict as possible, and if you can do

that for 28 days it becomes much easier. They say that doing something every

day for 28 days makes it a habit. I think that is true because I've been

pretty successful w/ this diet and I never in my wildest dreams thought I

could do it.

But one thing that I'll say that has helped me SOOOOOo much have been the

special antifungals that my naturopath put me on. I have been on two amazing

formulas for the past month and they've made dramatic improvement in my

condition, and skin (which is my biggest problem). The two are

Detoxinate by Life-flo www.life-flo.com

Systemic Formulas, Bio Command " FungDX "

And I have noticed that my health has improved ten fold and my skin has

gotten dramatically better since taking these. And what's more, I notice

that in my urine and feces there is always a few candida puff balls, or dead

yeast to be more specific. I love seeing that because it makes me feel like

I really AM clearing that stuff out. YEY.

Good luck,

on 12/7/03 8:22 PM, sensualwordz@... at sensualwordz@... wrote:

>

> emily

> what do you think about grapes

> Before i ever heard of candida i remember hearing that for woman who had lots

> of yeast infections grapes were a no no

> and yet my version from my doctor says i can have grapes

> i ate some tonite and was filled with fear that i set myself back but i

> needed something sweet

>

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> Date: 12/7/2003 11:14:15 PM Eastern Standard Time

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> HREF= " mailto:sinclairemily@... " >sinclairemily@...</A>

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> HREF= " mailto:candidiasis " >candidiasis </A>

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>

> Hey ladies,

>

> Hate to burst your bubble, but according to other candida diets I've seen, I

> think there are indeed too many carbs in that diet posted by Ellen.

>

> I think the oatmeal (espeically if it's instant), carrots, and rice crackers

> and fruit are probably a little too indulgent for the candida diet. From all

> the info I've heard, the candida diet should be as strict as possible until

> the body has gotten itself balanced again.

>

> Believe me, I know this diet is hard because I've been on it for nearly 6

> months now. It's hard has hell, but the longer you stick to it, the easier

> it gets and then when the body has balanced, you can slowly test your body

> to see if it reacts to any of the more " racy " foods.

>

> Also, the more raw foods you can have in your diet, vegetables specifically,

> the more nutrients you'll absorb. I can't remember if it was someone on this

> message group, or one of the many people I've talked to about candida, but

> if you think about what fattens up pigs, it's grains. So the less grains in

> your diet, the better, in terms of weightloss and for the candida diet.

>

> Best,

>

>>

>> Breakfast: 2 eggs, 1 cup plain oatmeal

>> Snack: whole grain brown rice cake, butter

>> Lunch: salad - lettuce, tomato, cukes, carrots, chicken or beef

>> Snack: nuts or rye crisp cracker (only rye flour & water)

>> Dinner: meat, veggies, whole grain

>> Snack: popcorn or piece of fruit or apple muffin (from Yeast

>> Connection recipe)

>

December 8, 2003

I've read that foods that diabetics eat are better for people with Candida.

Since diabetics have to watch some of the same things as people with Candida,

this made sense. Anyone have any comments?

Chris

December 8, 2003

I believe that although we all seem to follow a basic anti-candidia diet, we

do need to keep in mind that everyone is different. What works for one might

not work for another.... this is where a daily food intake journal would REALLY

come into play for just about anyone...if you keep track of EVERYTHING you

eat and your reactions to these foods then you will have a much better idea of

your own body...sometimes seeing it in print really brings it into

perspective...just my humble opinion...

Warm wishes for everyones good health...

Angie

December 8, 2003

there is a site i dont know if it would work for people here but its

called

<A HREF= " www.fitday.com " >www.fitday.com</A> try it you put in what you eat and

it breakes it down for

you