Guest guest Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 I'm having fun with it, too. ) Antibiotics have also been found in tap water. Evie _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of marla Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 9:59 PM candidiasis Subject: RE: BAD Water Hee, I find this water discussion amusing. But rather than worrying about the poopy exposure, I was thinking it's the chemicals in the water that might be more of a problem. Did you all read the article regarding the city drinking water in England, I think it was (appeared on the reuters news a few months back), that the water actually contained a detectable amount of Prozac. What other chemicals are in there that no one has bothered to check? I mean the assumption is that there are so many people taking Prozac and a certain amount is not fully metabolized in the body, so ends up getting peed out into the sewage water which is filtered, but does not remove everything like Prozac. Ha! So if that can happen with Prozac, think of all the other drugs everyone is on? All the chemos? And all those people taking them are peeing into our sewage water. So my question is, how much of that gets removed and how much, if any, ends up in our tap water? As far as I understand, some of the used city water goes through water treatment plants before going out into the ocean while some does not? Need to check that one out. Hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 The Code Blue filter puts the lie to most of the filter comments; it takes all of the arsenic, nitrates and most everything else out of water (except fluoride). It begins shipping in mid-July. > If you depend on your water for any adequate amounts of minerals or > salts, your body is in trouble! I agree. I supplement. > First, the minerals in water are > inorganic and cannot be used by the body. They collect over time in > the body and cause problems. I disagree; all animals have the ability to use a salt lick or clay lick. This is predominantly inorganic salts. It may be an inefficient process but generally speaking if the minerals can be ionised for absorption in the bowel, they can be used by the body. That being said, I use Body Balance because it's a liquid ionic and as such it starts to absorb as soon as it hits your mouth regardless of bowel absorption. This is claimed to be 90% bioavailable; up to 98% is possible for this kind of supplement according to the PDR. > And the fact that you think that some > poop in the water is okay is really scary. I'm not paranoid either. When I go camping I drink creek water and I realise what might be in it. We have a lot of wildlife in our area. No big deal. Sunshine kills a lot of germs and so does oxygen. If your bowel constitution is good, bowel infection isn't a problem. Then again I live in a good area The filtration story you sent is inaccurate, especially this part: " filters are not effective in removing many common contaminants such as arsenic, bacteria, copper, lead, nitrates, parasites, sodium and viruses. " For a Brita pitcher filter it's pretty well true, but a Brita is the cheapest crap that could be marketed as a " filter " . For a comparison of filters from independent study, see the link on http://stopdrinking poison.com The article touted distillation. I agree it makes good water; however, distillation requires filtration to remove the volatiles as pointed out in the article, so it's a two-step process. Duncan Crow Duncan Crow (copyright waived) duncancrow/ --- live and help live... --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 > The only minerals distilled water is able to leach from your body are > the inorganic ones that aren't supposed to be there. Evie, it's my understanding that the body's reactions are tightly controlled, so water doesn't " leach " anything out of the body. I'd lik some proof of that statement if you have it. Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 That's interesting, because fluoride removal is the biggest reason we got a distiller. Evie _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of Duncan Crow Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 10:43 PM candidiasis Subject: Re: RE: BAD Water The Code Blue filter puts the lie to most of the filter comments; it takes all of the arsenic, nitrates and most everything else out of water (except fluoride). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 > They are cheap, available, and have a great campaign for people who want to > be healthier without spending money. Actually Britta is sold to the soft drink market. They sell it with the hopes of making god awful tasting water taste good. The water can taste like death warmed over, but if Gov says it won't kill you, ppl believe it. Filters are considered frivilous. > A lot like most drugs...funny how > people would rather take prescription drugs because they are covered by > health insurance rather than spend a little more for something that is going > to work! Two points: 1. The drugs DON'T work, or don't work all that well in most cases. Taking a drug for an illness is NOT just like being well. They're not " cheap " either 'cause ppl pay for part of them with a co-pay in most cases even if they have insurance. 2. The other thing is people are brainwashed into looking to doctors to give them PILLS. Technically they understand they're drinking bleach, and it's probably not really good for them...but they push it out of their minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 All the books I have in front of me, tons of sites on the internet, x-rays that show before and after replacing water w/ distilled water.the only places I've seen dispute this are sites selling water filters, ro systems. Have a blessed day! Evie Maddox _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of Elaine Gallant Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 6:07 PM candidiasis Subject: Re: BAD Water > Water flowing through or on the ground collects inorganic (non- living) > minerals from the soil and rock through which it passes. These are not > minerals that humans or other animals can utilize. Says WHO? _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 > > As far as " reclaimed " water goes...they just add however much > chlorine it takes to overcome the smell and taste of human feces and > urine. > sounds like you need to do some reading up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 I have a R/O filter, but Dr. Nugent says there is nothing that takes these drugs out. Who ever comes up with a filter that does take out the drugs will do quite nicely. I am with you on drinking water with minerals over the distilled. -- Re: BAD Water > > Hee, I find this water discussion amusing. But rather than worrying about > > the poopy exposure, I was thinking it's the chemicals in the water that > > might be more of a problem. Did you all read the article regarding the city > > drinking water in England, I think it was (appeared on the reuters news a > > few months back), that the water actually contained a detectable amount of > > Prozac. What other chemicals are in there that no one has bothered to > > check? I mean the assumption is that there are so many people taking Prozac > > and a certain amount is not fully metabolized in the body, so ends up > > getting peed out into the sewage water which is filtered, but does not > > remove everything like Prozac. Ha! So if that can happen with Prozac, > > think of all the other drugs everyone is on? All the chemos? And all those > > people taking them are peeing into our sewage water. So my question is, how > > much of that gets removed and how much, if any, ends up in our tap water? > > As far as I understand, some of the used city water goes through water > > treatment plants before going out into the ocean while some does not? Need > > to check that one out. Hmmm. > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > Fr > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/45 - Release Date: 7/9/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Distilled water has no drugs in it. Distill it and throw your minerals back in if you are concerned. Have a blessed day! Evie Maddox _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of Kindscher (Charter) Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 1:14 PM candidiasis Subject: Re: Re: BAD Water I have a R/O filter, but Dr. Nugent says there is nothing that takes these drugs out. Who ever comes up with a filter that does take out the drugs will do quite nicely. I am with you on drinking water with minerals over the distilled. _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 > > > Hee, I find this water discussion amusing. But rather than > worrying about > > > the poopy exposure, I was thinking it's the chemicals in the > water that > > > might be more of a problem. Did you all read the article > regarding the city > > > drinking water in England, I think it was (appeared on the > reuters news a > > > few months back), that the water actually contained a detectable > amount of > > > Prozac. What other chemicals are in there that no one has > bothered to > > > check? I mean the assumption is that there are so many people > taking Prozac > > > and a certain amount is not fully metabolized in the body, so > ends up > > > getting peed out into the sewage water which is filtered, but > does not > > > remove everything like Prozac. Ha! So if that can happen with > Prozac, > > > think of all the other drugs everyone is on? All the chemos? > And all those > > > people taking them are peeing into our sewage water. So my > question is, how > > > much of that gets removed and how much, if any, ends up in our > tap water? > > > As far as I understand, some of the used city water goes through > water > > > treatment plants before going out into the ocean while some does > not? Need > > > to check that one out. Hmmm. > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > > > Fr > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/45 - Release Date: > 7/9/2005 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 The concept that inorganic minerals are not absorbed and utilised is fat balderdash. I agree with Evie's commnt just below. > All the books I have in front of me, tons of sites on the internet, > x-rays that show before and after replacing water w/ distilled > water.the only places I've seen dispute this are sites selling water > filters, ro systems. Elaine says: > Water flowing through or on the ground collects inorganic (non- > living) > minerals from the soil and rock through which it passes. > These are not > minerals that humans or other animals can utilize. Elaine, Blind faith is a trap. The fact that salt, sodium chloride, is well absorbed, puts the lie to any generalisation on the subject. There are a lot of other examples. Sure, you can't eat sodium by itself; it would burn your mouth, but minerals in water are usually complexed and many are absorbable. Animals and people historically ate clay licks or salt licks. Duncan Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 > I have a R/O filter, but Dr. Nugent says there is nothing that takes > these drugs out. Who ever comes up with a filter that does take out > the drugs will do quite nicely. I am with you on drinking water with > minerals over the distilled. New technology exists today that can filter many things previously though to be un-filterable. I think Dr. Nugent's information may not be up-to-date. How old was his publication? MARTI filter technology for example is just months on the market. Duncan Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 > > Eeeek... sounds like time for a reverse osmosis filter. Beware outdated information.... RO is good but it doesn't get out all the arsenic, though according to some sources it can in some circumstances get it down to about 2 PPB - 4 PPB. The table below shows the lifetime risks of dying of cancer from arsenic in drinking water, based on the National Academy of Sciences' 1999 risk estimates. (assuming 2 liters consumed/day). Note that even at very low concentrations, cancer risk rises considerably. 0.5 ppb 1 in 10,000 1 ppb 1 in 5,000 3 ppb 1 in 1,667 4 ppb 1 in 1,250 5 ppb 1 in 1,000 10 ppb 1 in 500 20 ppb 1 in 250 25 ppb 1 in 200 50 ppb 1 in 100 That's why I chose to promote a filter that removes all of the arsenic and most other pollutants. Sorry I can't be more specific at this time. Duncan Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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