Re: [ Mannose and Ambrotose]

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/3/2005 10:26:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

morningsunranch@... writes:

I know of people who have been making steps from wheelchairs as a result

of strident use of Glyco's (MS). I know of people with lifelong

allergies who have been relieved.

Is this from medicine or the diet or both?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/3/2005 10:26:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

morningsunranch@... writes:

Some do incorrectly say Glyco's gives them candida

what are glyco's? Is that what Ambrotose is?

[Guest guest]

where can i buy that ambrotose for the cheapest online?

di

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/3/2005 10:26:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

morningsunranch@... writes:

> I would like to say its OK to have personal opinions and

> believe anything one wishes, but for the board it is good to try clearly

> note it is not known and established fact

Well, as a newbie can we keep personal opinions out and keep fact IN then or

is that not possible. Because now i'm more confused than ever.

Dianne

[Guest guest]

> wrote:

> Duncan,

>

> In your earlier post where you claimed 2 of the sugars in Ambrotose

> feed Candidia, I would like to say its OK to have personal opinions

> and believe anything one wishes, but for the board it is good to try

> clearly note it is not known and established fact, but simple personal

> conjecture.

, read back what you wrote -- what you are trying to say above is

that candida does not live on glucose, one of the eight essential

sugars in Ambrotose. We all know glucose is one of the preferred

foods for candida.

I believe in Ambrotose but I pointed that out because you told me you

knew about this product but then you didn't tell people.

My opinion is that Ambrotose is not really a candida product,

c'mon.... you'd have to agree, don't you? Anybody?

Duncan Crow

Duncan

[Guest guest]

Hi,

You have asked alot of questions, and I will try to answer them. There

will always be people's opinion on this forum or any other forum, no

way to avoid that.Even with proven things, everyone will have their

opinion on it. I only have the research, doctors words and my personal

expereince to go by. I suppose if my personal experience with the

Ambrotose had shown me it made candida worse then I would not be sharing

it with anyone here. You could stop by the forum I co-own and listen to

what all the women are saying there. They almost all of them had candida

when starting on the GLyconutrients, and within short periods of time

they report relief from the symptoms. What am I suppose to think, I too

had major canidida and was also free from it within a short period of

time. You can find out the answer to your question below in the forum,

most of the women gave up on drugs and have turned to nutrition to heal

them. There are a few who have been taking one minor MS drug called

LDN, but most have been on for over a year and will report their

improvements have been since starting the GLyconutrients. The candida is

already residing in your body, it can survive even when you elimininate

sugar. However, if you want to believe the science behind the 8

necessary sugars, then it states that your bodies cells will function

better if you have all 8. When your cells function better, then they

will destroy foreign invaders such as candida, cancer, bacteria, virus,

etc. So for the sake of Duncan's beleif, if the candida does feed on the

sugars, but then so are your cells who are now getting more able to

communicate properly, then who do you think will win the war? That is

right the body, not the candida. Our bodies were designed to do these

things, the problem is we don't help it work at its best because of our

poor diet. Now during the time you are trying to eliminate candida, it

would be good to eliminate sugary snacks, which are bad for you, and

processed grains like white bread, rice, also potatoes. ALso if you are

craving cholcolate you need magnesium. Other sugars cravings can get

started by certain nutrient deficiencies, like Chromium (brocoli,

cheese, chicken), Carbon (fresh fruits), Phosporous (chicken, beef,liver

and fish, eggs,dairy,nuts,legumes), Triptophan, (cheese,liver,lamb,

spinach) Sulphur, (onions, cranberries, crucifix vegies). The online

store has Advanced Ambrotose for $77.25, or you can become an associate

and get for $62.33 once on automatic order. One tub could last your

anywhere from 1-4 months dependingn on the serving size you choose to

take. www.Gothealth.myglycostore.com my email is

morningsunranch@... if anyone wants more research on

GLyconutrients, I can send to your private email,

JMBWE123@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 6/3/2005 10:26:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> morningsunranch@... writes:

>

> I know of people who have been making steps from wheelchairs as a result

> of strident use of Glyco's (MS). I know of people with lifelong

> allergies who have been relieved.

>

>

> Is this from medicine or the diet or both?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

They survive on many things that we need to survive, so what y ou are

saying is that we should elimininate the things that are crucial for our

health? It isi obvious that candida eats glucose, but your implication

that Ambrotose will cause the situation to become worse is wrong. If you

understand that once the cells regain their balance and communication

then they will defend the body as they are suppose to. People jump to

the wrong conclusion when you say these sugars feed the candida, they

are already being fed quite nicely without Ambrotose also, if Ambrotose

can cause the body to step up to the plant and start defending itself

then I think I chose to go that route. personal experinces have shown

the science and the docotrs to be right on this one. If I only had my

own expereince then I would be quiet, but I have many expereinces with

Candida and Ambrotose. I had late stage lyme, many people I work with

take massive amount of ANtibiotics for years, they know candida

intimately, and they do well on the Ambrotose.

Duncan Crow wrote:

> > wrote:

> > Duncan,

> >

> > In your earlier post where you claimed 2 of the sugars in Ambrotose

> > feed Candidia, I would like to say its OK to have personal opinions

> > and believe anything one wishes, but for the board it is good to try

> > clearly note it is not known and established fact, but simple personal

> > conjecture.

>

> , read back what you wrote -- what you are trying to say above is

> that candida does not live on glucose, one of the eight essential

> sugars in Ambrotose. We all know glucose is one of the preferred

> foods for candida.

>

> I believe in Ambrotose but I pointed that out because you told me you

> knew about this product but then you didn't tell people.

>

> My opinion is that Ambrotose is not really a candida product,

> c'mon.... you'd have to agree, don't you? Anybody?

>

> Duncan Crow

>

>

>

> Duncan

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thank you for sharing regarding these new supplements. You offered to send

more research on them and I, for one, would VERY much like to see it. Thanks

ahead of time, Judy

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/4/2005 1:32:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

morningsunranch@... writes:

> They almost all of them had candida

> when starting on the GLyconutrients, and within short periods of time

> they report relief from the symptoms.

Was this in addition to the diet?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/5/2005 11:20:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

morningsunranch@... writes:

Over all the ones who do radical changes in their diet improve

faster and also will have better over all results with their MS

Ok thanks for that. Make's sense. So what is the best approach besides

changing my diet?

And you guys said to avoid Slenda at all costs right?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/5/2005 12:14:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

morningsunranch@... writes:

> Do you

> have other conditions besides Candidia? What is your age? What are you

> doing now to enhance your health?

I am 39, I have epstein barr, tethered spinal cord, asthma/allergies,

endometriosis with terrible long periods and I have anemia. My knees have no

cartilege. I love to fast-walk. Bowels are great. I have thrush in the back

of my

throat a lot, non on tongue. I need to know what to order asap cause I do

not feel good, but I need to buy at a discount too. My husband has crotch-rot

and fibromyalgia and he just turned 40. It hurts just to take out the garbage

for him. He used to paint homes and now it just kills him. He breaks out in

a red, zitty rash ALL OVER HIS FACE if he exerts any wild activity outside in

the heat etc.

He's been to the mayo clinic and they are clueless. He hurts all over. Is

it me giving him candida? do i even have it? I barely ever get yeast

infections and I rarely ever take antibiotics.

I need advice guys. All i want right now is a huge piece of birthday cake!

Di

[Guest guest]

I have some women who have adopted extremely healthy diets, like all raw

and absolutely no sweet anything, then I have some who are still eating

donuts at church on Sunday and other foods that would be considered a no

go. They have still reported an absence of their candida after a few

months. Over all the ones who do radical changes in their diet improve

faster and also will have better over all results with their MS.

JMBWE123@... wrote:

> In a message dated 6/4/2005 1:32:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> morningsunranch@... writes:

>

> > They almost all of them had candida

> > when starting on the GLyconutrients, and within short periods of time

> > they report relief from the symptoms.

>

> Was this in addition to the diet?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In my opinion in addition to changing your diet, no sugars, not refined

grains, much more fresh raw vegies, mostly green ones, lots or filtered

water, ifi you eat meat, try to get organic sothere are no hormones or

antbiotics. ALso the same goes for eggs, and dairy products, these

antiobiotics will just keep you in trouble. You need to be taking

pro-biotics and maybe enzymes also. Are your bowels moving regular, this

is criticial before starting to thing about any supplement that will

eliminate candida. You can get ill when eliminating because the body

sometimes cannot keep up with the waste removal. In my personal opinion

a solid wellness program supporting your whole body is the best. Do you

have other conditions besides Candidia? What is your age? What are you

doing now to enhance your health? If you let me know what you are

already doing, I can then better tell you how to compliment it.

JMBWE123@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 6/5/2005 11:20:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> morningsunranch@... writes:

>

> Over all the ones who do radical changes in their diet improve

> faster and also will have better over all results with their MS

>

>

> Ok thanks for that. Make's sense. So what is the best approach besides

> changing my diet?

> And you guys said to avoid Slenda at all costs right?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> They survive on many things that we need to survive, so what y ou are

> saying is that we should elimininate the things that are crucial for

> our health? It isi obvious that candida eats glucose, but your

> implication that Ambrotose will cause the situation to become worse is

> wrong.

You made a good point, .

However we got to this by your initial suggestion that the readership

needs Ambrotose for urinary tract infection, at a minimum of about

$195 for a three month's supply (and it's mostly d-mannose). I just

pointed out that $35 worth of d-mannose would do the same thing.

Duncan

[Guest guest]

Hi Di,

Wow, I am sorry you are struggling with so many challenges. It does seem

as though your immune system is in great need right now. You would need

a few things to get you feeling better. You will definately need to

modulate your immune system, this will help rid yourself of the

allergies, ease the asthma and also the EBV. This is what the Ambrotose

does is modulate the immune. You will need hormonal support for the

edometriosis and this also is immune related. A product called PLUS will

feed your body what it needs to make hormones to helpp along withthe

AMbrotose. You should also be taking high quality fish oil which will

act like an atiimflmmatory for your allergies and asthma and also joint

pain. I don't know that much about the tethered spine, you would have to

tell me the cause and symptoms. The cartiledge can be repaired in your

knees but that takes awhile, my husband was bone on bone, and walking

with a cane, also had late stage lyme, and is now walking normal and

bending his knees. And of course I believe the thrush would also be

helped once the immune system is balanced and starting to function

properly. Why don't you email me privately with your phone number, time

zone, and we can talk, and I can answer your many questions. my

email,morningsunranch@...

JMBWE123@... wrote:

> In a message dated 6/5/2005 12:14:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> morningsunranch@... writes:

>

> > Do you

> > have other conditions besides Candidia? What is your age? What are you

> > doing now to enhance your health?

>

> I am 39, I have epstein barr, tethered spinal cord, asthma/allergies,

> endometriosis with terrible long periods and I have anemia. My knees

> have no

> cartilege. I love to fast-walk. Bowels are great. I have thrush in

> the back of my

> throat a lot, non on tongue. I need to know what to order asap cause I do

> not feel good, but I need to buy at a discount too. My husband has

> crotch-rot

> and fibromyalgia and he just turned 40. It hurts just to take out the

> garbage

> for him. He used to paint homes and now it just kills him. He breaks

> out in

> a red, zitty rash ALL OVER HIS FACE if he exerts any wild activity

> outside in

> the heat etc.

> He's been to the mayo clinic and they are clueless. He hurts all over. Is

> it me giving him candida? do i even have it? I barely ever get yeast

> infections and I rarely ever take antibiotics.

> I need advice guys. All i want right now is a huge piece of birthday cake!

>

> Di

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/5/2005 11:43:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

duncancrow@... writes:

> I do recommend Everlasting and Everlasting Support from

> the Integris Corporation.

>

Is that stuff for the toxin overload? Or was there another med you meant for

that. Also, what can I do first about this thrush in the back of my throat.

It is thick and getting constant. Everlasting help with that too?

di

[Guest guest]

> wrote:

> Hi Di,

>

> Wow, I am sorry you are struggling with so many challenges. It does

> seem as though your immune system is in great need right now. You

> would need a few things to get you feeling better. You will definately

> need to modulate your immune system, this will help rid yourself of

> the allergies, ease the asthma and also the EBV. This is what the

> Ambrotose does is modulate the immune. You will need hormonal support

> for the edometriosis and this also is immune related. A product called

> PLUS

Di,

Immune system problems are often caused by toxin load (which causes

inflammation). If toxin load is dealt with first, the cells may not

need the support of the two products is recommending, neither

of which deals with toxin load, may not be necessary. In fact they

are less likely or even unlikely to work if toxin load IS the real

issue. First things first, especially for someone with a low budget.

Incidentally you might want to reference this later: cartilage

regeneration took less than two months in one excellent case, and the

other responders responded in three. I don't make anything on the

product but I do recommend Everlasting and Everlasting Support from

the Integris Corporation.

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

I think now i'm getting a vaginal yeast infection, it happens every time my

period just gets over. My gosh. Between my throat and the other end it's

getting sickening. My glucose is a high normal so today I have GOT to start a

diabetic type diet and refuse to eat sugar. In the meantime, what can I use

to clear up this throat thing TODAY. What about Gentian Violet? Walmart

sells it for a buck or more. Then I need to clear up yeast out of my body.

What

should I order EXACTLY today for that? Threelac???

Thanks

Dianne

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/6/2005 10:13:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

suzt77@... writes:

So, no, I'm not going to take something that (eventhough I'm not diabetic)

is going to increase my blood sugar levels

Wait. What increases the sugar? Ambrotose does? I almost bought 3 jars of

it.

[Guest guest]

Oh man Sue were you helpful!

God bless you,

Di

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/6/2005 1:21:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

morningsunranch@... writes:

IF you don't want to take the product that is

fine, but please be educated in your decision

Ok, where else can I read science reports relating to how that drug works?

A site that no one belongs too, so there is no swayed opinions.

Di

[Guest guest]

I'll have to agree with Duncan on this one. One of the first things you'll get

tested for when you have recurrent yeast infections is diabetes. Why? Well

because having consistently high glucose levels can cause chronic yeast

infections or at the very least contribute to them and your ability to get rid

of them. So, no, I'm not going to take something that (eventhough I'm not

diabetic) is going to increase my blood sugar levels and help feed the beast.

Sue

Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

> wrote:

> Duncan,

>

> In your earlier post where you claimed 2 of the sugars in Ambrotose

> feed Candidia, I would like to say its OK to have personal opinions

> and believe anything one wishes, but for the board it is good to try

> clearly note it is not known and established fact, but simple personal

> conjecture.

, read back what you wrote -- what you are trying to say above is

that candida does not live on glucose, one of the eight essential

sugars in Ambrotose. We all know glucose is one of the preferred

foods for candida.

I believe in Ambrotose but I pointed that out because you told me you

knew about this product but then you didn't tell people.

My opinion is that Ambrotose is not really a candida product,

c'mon.... you'd have to agree, don't you? Anybody?

Duncan Crow

Duncan

[Guest guest]

Try this. Place a clove of garlic in a piece of lettuce and chew it. It does

a great job. of clearing the throat, even if it doesn't taste that

great.About 1 clove every 4 to 6 hours. The Japanese even boil about 4 to

five cloves of garlic in a half quart of water and use it to get rid of

female yeast infections.

RJ

Re: Re: [ Mannose and Ambrotose]

> I think now i'm getting a vaginal yeast infection, it happens every time

my

> period just gets over. My gosh. Between my throat and the other end

it's

> getting sickening. My glucose is a high normal so today I have GOT to

start a

> diabetic type diet and refuse to eat sugar. In the meantime, what can I

use

> to clear up this throat thing TODAY. What about Gentian Violet? Walmart

> sells it for a buck or more. Then I need to clear up yeast out of my

body. What

> should I order EXACTLY today for that? Threelac???

> Thanks

> Dianne

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If I understood correctly the ambrotose contains glucose. Glucose is what you

are trying to keep under control if you are a diabetic and also if you have

candida you would want to do the same. As for supplements etc that one would

want to purchase I'd be wary of most. Now some may help over time but after

trying several things with limited success I decided to stop spending my hard

earned money on most everything and take care of my diet, make sure I was

getting a good vitamin/mineral supplement and essential fatty acids. The only

other thing I've been doing is cleansing and ensuring that my bowels are

regular. Since dumping all these extra " meds " I've seen the greatest improvement

along with cleansing. I no longer feel foggy headed unless I don't ge enough

sleep. Which I figure is pretty normal. My moods are more even, my tongue is

almost completely pink, and I haven't had a vaginal yeast in about a month and a

half and the last one wasn't too terrible and cleared up very quickly.

(this is good news for someone who couldn't shake them for what seemed like

forever)

Another suggestion that I came across recently was to change and or disinfect so

to speak your toothbrush more often to help with the oral thrush. Makes sense to

me that if you keep putting your toothbrush back in your mouth and it's infected

with candida you'll have a hard time clearing the infection. So I change the

brush every 3-4 weeks and soak it in food grade hydrogen peroxide and sometimes

just plain old listerine to help keep the bacteria off of it.

I still avoid carbs and sugars as much as possible and try to get as much pre

and pro biotic foods in me as possible to support good digestion. I wish I could

tell you that there's a magic pill or powder out there that will get rid of this

but really in the end it's about cleaning up your body and getting some balance

back to your system. It sounds simple but it's difficult to do when we've never

been taught how to keep our body in balance.

I guess what I'm tryin to say is that you can't get rid of this overnight and

that's a very difficult thing to accept. You will feel worse most likely before

you feel better. I did. It's hard to get past that point but once you do and

begin to notice improvement it's a lot easier to stay at it. Best of luck and

don't part with your money lightly.

Sue

JMBWE123@... wrote:

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[Guest guest]

Ambrotose does not raise blood sugar levels and this is fact. If you

want to look at the science yourself then please go to

www.glycoscience.org type in diabetes and see for yourself the studies

that have been done with diabetes and Glyconutrients. Now why would they

have successful outcomes, and people reducing their insulin if the blood

sugar was increased?? IF you don't want to take the product that is

fine, but please be educated in your decision. Doctors are recommending

these products daily to people with diabetes to save their lives. As far

as the Candida things goes, like I said if 8 sugars are necessary for

our healthy existence, then we cannot eliminate the thing that we need

for fear it might feed the candida, the body will prevail when it is

able to have an immune system that functions properly.On the same site

type in candida also. Type in lupus, rheumatoid, cancer, you name it and

there are clinical studies and research. If you don't want these sugars

then you would have to eliminate eating any fresh vegatables, mushrooms,

fruits and that type of thing. These are from plants and provide what

should be provided in our diet but is not. Read the science then make

your decisions based on fact. ALso here is something you can ask Duncan

about. " Most of the inulin and oligofructose commercially available on

the industrial food ingredient market today is either synthesized from

sucrose or extracted from chicory roots " . So is inulin safe for diabetes

and candida?? GIna

Sue wrote:

> I'll have to agree with Duncan on this one. One of the first things

> you'll get tested for when you have recurrent yeast infections is

> diabetes. Why? Well because having consistently high glucose levels can

> cause chronic yeast infections or at the very least contribute to them

> and your ability to get rid of them. So, no, I'm not going to take

> something that (eventhough I'm not diabetic) is going to increase my

> blood sugar levels and help feed the beast.

>

> Sue

>

> Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

> > wrote:

> > Duncan,

> >

> > In your earlier post where you claimed 2 of the sugars in Ambrotose

> > feed Candidia, I would like to say its OK to have personal opinions

> > and believe anything one wishes, but for the board it is good to try

> > clearly note it is not known and established fact, but simple personal

> > conjecture.

>

> , read back what you wrote -- what you are trying to say above is

> that candida does not live on glucose, one of the eight essential

> sugars in Ambrotose. We all know glucose is one of the preferred

> foods for candida.

>

> I believe in Ambrotose but I pointed that out because you told me you

> knew about this product but then you didn't tell people.

>

> My opinion is that Ambrotose is not really a candida product,

> c'mon.... you'd have to agree, don't you? Anybody?

>

> Duncan Crow

>

>

>

> Duncan

>

>

>