Re: Hypoglycemia? Confused here

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" ..: )::.. " <ombass@...> wrote:

So I seem to have a lot of the symptoms of Hypoglycemia. Mainly a severe

sensitivity to carbs and sugars of any kind. If I do eat carbs or sugars, I

get these sorts of symptoms:

* Confusion

* Dizziness

* Feeling shaky

* Hunger

* Irritability

* Pounding heart; racing pulse

* Sweating

* Trembling

* Weakness

* Anxiety

These are all from a page on Hypoglycemia. But with Hypoglycemia, supposedly

you blood sugar is LOW and typically people eat sugar to correct it. But I

am the opposite. Sugar/carbs CAUSE these symptoms, not alleviate them.

So where does that put me? I am confused here. I don't get the typical

fatigue everyone describes from sugars.

I know my liver is in a bad state, and have been assuming that this is a

result of the liver's inability to process the sugars into glucose. Am I

correct in that line of thinking?

Anyone have any clues here? I am losing my mind as it seems it just gets

worse and worse and I get more sensitive and more sensitive, even though I

have been following the diet, taking massive supplements, etc for close to a

year.

Thanks!

_jason_

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[Guest guest]

Hypoglycemia is the opposite of diabetes, in that your body is producing

too much insulin - most probably due to an extreme sensitivity to all

forms of sugar. The slightest bit of sugar produces an oversupply of

insulin in your system. And no, people with hypoglycemia should not be

eating sugar, as that only makes it worse. I worked with someone who

had the same problem and sugar made her feel truly awful. She was told

to avoid it completely.

You say your sensitivities are getting worse? Have you looked into the

possibility of having leaky gut as well as candida, because that stopped

us from improving. When we started treating the leaky gut, we started

to feel better.

Hope that helps.

Keen

Hypoglycemia? Confused here

So I seem to have a lot of the symptoms of Hypoglycemia. Mainly a severe

sensitivity to carbs and sugars of any kind. If I do eat carbs or

sugars, I

get these sorts of symptoms:

* Confusion

* Dizziness

* Feeling shaky

* Hunger

* Irritability

* Pounding heart; racing pulse

* Sweating

* Trembling

* Weakness

* Anxiety

These are all from a page on Hypoglycemia. But with Hypoglycemia,

supposedly

you blood sugar is LOW and typically people eat sugar to correct it. But

I

am the opposite. Sugar/carbs CAUSE these symptoms, not alleviate them.

So where does that put me? I am confused here. I don't get the typical

fatigue everyone describes from sugars.

I know my liver is in a bad state, and have been assuming that this is a

result of the liver's inability to process the sugars into glucose. Am I

correct in that line of thinking?

Anyone have any clues here? I am losing my mind as it seems it just gets

worse and worse and I get more sensitive and more sensitive, even though

I

have been following the diet, taking massive supplements, etc for close

to a

year.

Thanks!

_jason_

_________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

[Guest guest]

Thursday, May 18, 2006, 8:48:27 PM, ..: wrote:

J> So I seem to have a lot of the symptoms of Hypoglycemia. Mainly a severe

J> sensitivity to carbs and sugars of any kind. If I do eat carbs or sugars, I

J> get these sorts of symptoms:

J> * Confusion

J> * Dizziness

J> * Feeling shaky

J> * Hunger

J> * Irritability

J> * Pounding heart; racing pulse

J> * Sweating

J> * Trembling

J> * Weakness

J> * Anxiety

J> These are all from a page on Hypoglycemia. But with Hypoglycemia, supposedly

J> you blood sugar is LOW and typically people eat sugar to correct it. But I

J> am the opposite. Sugar/carbs CAUSE these symptoms, not alleviate them.

J> So where does that put me? I am confused here.

reactive hypoglycemia occurs when you eat carbs, your blood glucose

rises, your insulin gets secreted in response, and the insulin reduces

your blood glucose level TOO MUCH. Like a roller coaster, your BG goes

up and down wildly.

But like candidiasis, it's not something that's really understood.

J> I don't get the typical fatigue everyone describes from sugars.

It's a matter of timing. The tiredness resulting from candida/sugar

will typically occur the next day or later, when the sugar has made

the candida bloom. But reactive hypoglycemia would occur, IIRC, in an

hour or two.

J> I know my liver is in a bad state, and have been assuming that this is a

J> result of the liver's inability to process the sugars into glucose. Am I

J> correct in that line of thinking?

very possibly. In response to glucagon, the liver converts its stored

glycogen into glucose, or else turns ketones (from fat metabolism)

into glucose (in the process known as neoglucogenesis).

J> Anyone have any clues here?

there is a hypoglycemia group. Or, if you want to spend some

money, your can get a bg testing kit. Look for one where you get the

meter for free (because they want to make the money on the test

strips). I saw one free recently in a chain drugstore.

J> I am losing my mind as it seems it just gets

J> worse and worse and I get more sensitive and more sensitive, even though I

J> have been following the diet, taking massive supplements, etc for close to a

J> year.

, there are things you can do to prevent/lessen spikes in bg

(blood glucose). Eating fat and/or protein with carbs is one avenue.

Eating low GI carbs is another. Cinnamon and alpha lipoic acid are

so-called " insulin mimetics " that act like insulin and would tend to

alleviate hyperinsulinemia and hyperglycemia.

Keep in mind that bread and potatoes can spike bg more than table

sugar. How you react differently to those can be a clue: e.g., if

white bread doesn't cause much or a problem, maybe the problem is not

due to bg levels (maybe it's really candida and the ol' leaky gut

syndrome).

Have you ever tried a day long fast, with only water?

--

Regards,

A.B.

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On 5/18/06 5:54 PM, " Maggie McQuade " <maggs914@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Do you live in or near New York not NYC ?

>

> Check out this site. I know people who say he is incredible !!!

>

> http://www.yurkovsky.com/yurkovsky.html

Thank for this Maggie - he looks pretty interesting! I like his approach.

But damn, I am in California. But honestly at this point I am ready to

travel anywhere for some actual help. I have been at the end of my rope for

too long now, and cant go at it alone any longer.

Thanks!

_jason_

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On 5/18/06 11:26 PM, " Keen Venables " <kvenables@...> wrote:

> Hypoglycemia is the opposite of diabetes, in that your body is producing

> too much insulin - most probably due to an extreme sensitivity to all

> forms of sugar. The slightest bit of sugar produces an oversupply of

> insulin in your system. And no, people with hypoglycemia should not be

> eating sugar, as that only makes it worse. I worked with someone who

> had the same problem and sugar made her feel truly awful. She was told

> to avoid it completely.

>

Hi Keen,

I guess the reason I though that people with Hypoglycemia would eat sugar to

calm their symptoms down, is perhaps a confusion with Diabetes. Whenever I

would read about it, it would say that people needed to raise their blood

sugar, and eat some sugar to do this. For instance, a lot of the info out

there goes like this:

" Hypoglycemia, or low blood sugar, occurs when your blood glucose level

causes a specific set of symptoms that reverse themselves once sugar is

given. "

That was from a WebMD article, but I must be reading the ones associated

with diabetes, so thus my confusion.

After doing a bit more research, it looks like what I (and the person you

described) have is called " reactive hypoglycemia "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_hypoglycemia

> You say your sensitivities are getting worse? Have you looked into the

> possibility of having leaky gut as well as candida, because that stopped

> us from improving. When we started treating the leaky gut, we started

> to feel better.

I have assumed I have leaky gut as well, and used to take L-Glutamine for it

for several months. But I ran out a little bit ago, and never really noticed

a perceivable benefit from taking it, so haven't started again. I guess

that's the problem with a lot of these things, is you do a bunch of

research, and *think* you have something or the other, then take the

supplements for it. But then nothing really happens, and eventually you are

back to square one scratching your head, going a million Google searches,

etc.

What are you doing to treat the leaky gut? Would be very interested to know

what has worked for you.

> Hope that helps.

It does very much! Thank you!

_jason_

_________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

[Guest guest]

> reactive hypoglycemia occurs when you eat carbs, your blood glucose

> rises, your insulin gets secreted in response, and the insulin reduces

> your blood glucose level TOO MUCH. Like a roller coaster, your BG goes

> up and down wildly.

>

> But like candidiasis, it's not something that's really understood.

Yeah, I have learned that reactive hypoglycemia is what I have. My symptoms

fit that perfectly.

> J> I don't get the typical fatigue everyone describes from sugars.

>

> It's a matter of timing. The tiredness resulting from candida/sugar

> will typically occur the next day or later, when the sugar has made

> the candida bloom. But reactive hypoglycemia would occur, IIRC, in an

> hour or two.

Yep. I get both. The reactive immediately, then the fatigue the next day.

The only difference is with Xylitol I get fatigue immediately (within 15-30

min) and it does not bring on the reactive hypoglycemia symptoms at all.

Really frustrating as I thought I had finally found something sweet that I

could eat! :-(

> J> I know my liver is in a bad state, and have been assuming that this is a

> J> result of the liver's inability to process the sugars into glucose. Am I

> J> correct in that line of thinking?

>

> very possibly. In response to glucagon, the liver converts its stored

> glycogen into glucose, or else turns ketones (from fat metabolism)

> into glucose (in the process known as neoglucogenesis).

Sounds like it. Yeah my thoughts are that the Xylitol goes through the same

motions in the liver. Unfortunatly theres not a lot of research or info out

there on Xylitol.

> J> Anyone have any clues here?

>

> there is a hypoglycemia group. Or, if you want to spend some

> money, your can get a bg testing kit. Look for one where you get the

> meter for free (because they want to make the money on the test

> strips). I saw one free recently in a chain drugstore.

Yeah, I don't think I need to go that far. Everything I read on reactive

hypoglycemia says you are just to avoid carbs and sugars. I don't think

there is a specific medicine for it, and I DEFINITELY don't want any more

drugs to clog my liver up further.

> J> I am losing my mind as it seems it just gets

> J> worse and worse and I get more sensitive and more sensitive, even though I

> J> have been following the diet, taking massive supplements, etc for close to

> a

> J> year.

>

> , there are things you can do to prevent/lessen spikes in bg

> (blood glucose). Eating fat and/or protein with carbs is one avenue.

> Eating low GI carbs is another. Cinnamon and alpha lipoic acid are

> so-called " insulin mimetics " that act like insulin and would tend to

> alleviate hyperinsulinemia and hyperglycemia.

I already follow a low GI diet - I am kind of forced too. If I stray, I pay

so to speak. I will have to check into the cinnamon and alpha lipoic

acid-wasn't aware of that.

> Keep in mind that bread and potatoes can spike bg more than table

> sugar. How you react differently to those can be a clue: e.g., if

> white bread doesn't cause much or a problem, maybe the problem is not

> due to bg levels (maybe it's really candida and the ol' leaky gut

> syndrome).

Hmmm, well, I cant tolerate wheat/gluten at all, so don't know about the

bread thing. But potatoes don't do me well. Is there something else I could

compare with?

> Have you ever tried a day long fast, with only water?

Not really no. I did one a couple years back that was only veggies. I have

been thinking a lot about doing the master cleanse, but am worried it may be

too intense. My liver is already overloaded I feel, and I have been doing a

lot of saunas etc., so am worried about releasing too much toxins for it to

deal with. What do you think?

And thank you for your help!!!

_jason_

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

It's worth a shot just to give his office a call.

Best wishes :-)

Maggie

" ..: )::.. " <ombass@...> wrote:

On 5/18/06 5:54 PM, " Maggie McQuade " <maggs914@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Do you live in or near New York not NYC ?

>

> Check out this site. I know people who say he is incredible !!!

>

> http://www.yurkovsky.com/yurkovsky.html

Thank for this Maggie - he looks pretty interesting! I like his approach.

But damn, I am in California. But honestly at this point I am ready to

travel anywhere for some actual help. I have been at the end of my rope for

too long now, and cant go at it alone any longer.

Thanks!

_jason_

_________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

[Guest guest]

Yes, hypoglycemia in a diabetic is treated differently, as they can die if their

sugar does not come up again. My father has been a diabetic for 30 years, my

mom was one, and my brother is one, so that's one disease I know about, and want

to avoid! Reactive hypoglycemia can lead to diabetes, so be very careful.

We are taking MSM for the leaky gut. I know that it works for arthritis as it

stops inflammation and helps to heal the cartilage. So, it is bound to help for

the inflammation of the gut, as well as encourage the cells to heal. My husband

also had aloe vera juice in the beginning, which also helped.

Diet is the most important. Make sure you are avoiding anything you are

allergic to. Also, if you get more sensitive to certain foods, it is probably

because you haven't had it in a long time and the chemicals and such are too

much for your body to deal with. Remember also that you are trying to heal your

immune system so that everything can be made better.

Do you have IBS? There are certain ways you must eat to avoid feeling awful.

Keen

Re: Hypoglycemia? Confused here

On 5/18/06 11:26 PM, " Keen Venables " <kvenables@...> wrote:

> Hypoglycemia is the opposite of diabetes, in that your body is producing

> too much insulin - most probably due to an extreme sensitivity to all

> forms of sugar. The slightest bit of sugar produces an oversupply of

> insulin in your system. And no, people with hypoglycemia should not be

> eating sugar, as that only makes it worse. I worked with someone who

> had the same problem and sugar made her feel truly awful. She was told

> to avoid it completely.

>

Hi Keen,

I guess the reason I though that people with Hypoglycemia would eat sugar to

calm their symptoms down, is perhaps a confusion with Diabetes. Whenever I

would read about it, it would say that people needed to raise their blood

sugar, and eat some sugar to do this. For instance, a lot of the info out

there goes like this:

" Hypoglycemia, or low blood sugar, occurs when your blood glucose level

causes a specific set of symptoms that reverse themselves once sugar is

given. "

That was from a WebMD article, but I must be reading the ones associated

with diabetes, so thus my confusion.

After doing a bit more research, it looks like what I (and the person you

described) have is called " reactive hypoglycemia "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_hypoglycemia

> You say your sensitivities are getting worse? Have you looked into the

> possibility of having leaky gut as well as candida, because that stopped

> us from improving. When we started treating the leaky gut, we started

> to feel better.

I have assumed I have leaky gut as well, and used to take L-Glutamine for it

for several months. But I ran out a little bit ago, and never really noticed

a perceivable benefit from taking it, so haven't started again. I guess

that's the problem with a lot of these things, is you do a bunch of

research, and *think* you have something or the other, then take the

supplements for it. But then nothing really happens, and eventually you are

back to square one scratching your head, going a million Google searches,

etc.

What are you doing to treat the leaky gut? Would be very interested to know

what has worked for you.

> Hope that helps.

It does very much! Thank you!

_jason_

_________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

[Guest guest]

> > You say your sensitivities are getting worse? Have you looked into

> > the possibility of having leaky gut as well as candida, because that

> > stopped us from improving. When we started treating the leaky gut,

> > we started to feel better.

>

> I have assumed I have leaky gut as well, and used to take L-Glutamine

> for it for several months. But I ran out a little bit ago, and never

> really noticed a perceivable benefit from taking it, so haven't

> started again.

Maybe I can help with the worsening sensitivities AND the leaky

gut.

My clients use cold-processed whey because it contains a fair bit

of l-glutamine as well as other amino acids that help a person

generally, including the bowel wall, to grow and heal. It also

reduces sensitivities by reducing toxin load and supporting the

liver in doing its job at breaking toxins down, and as the body's

master antioxidant and detoxifier it mops up these sources of

irritation. The protein is also an asset for weight control.

Sensitivities are a lot worse when inflammatory omega-6 oils are

consumed in excess. I myself and several clients had generalized

sensitivities but improved dramatically in just a few days when

we better controlled our edible oil intake. The reason for the

improvement is given on the Budwig Diet Revision page on my

website.

> I guess that's the problem with a lot of these things,

> is you do a bunch of research, and *think* you have something or the

> other, then take the supplements for it. But then nothing really

> happens, and eventually you are back to square one scratching your

> head, going a million Google searches, etc.

I agree, but it's only a matter of hitting on the correct

combination of approaches despite not having the benefit of a

definitive pile of lab analyses. That makes the observance of

someone's personal diet and detox report a prime consideration in

addition to knowledge of what the supplements are supposed to do

at a molecular level. I think every individual practicing self-

health goes through the same thing, and thank goodness for the

discusion groups; I learned a lot myself even though I was

already in practice when I joined a bunch of groups.

Did you see the recent study that showed better bowel and mucosal

lining flora as well as *much less bowel lining inflammation*

when the subjects were using inulin? Well, we could and did guess

that early on and started practicing it about five years ago, but

it's been specifically verified by lab work. Same for recent

studies in colitis and crohn's.

Duncan

[Guest guest]

On 5/21/06 11:17 PM, " Keen Venables " <kvenables@...> wrote:

> Yes, hypoglycemia in a diabetic is treated differently, as they can die if

> their sugar does not come up again. My father has been a diabetic for 30

> years, my mom was one, and my brother is one, so that's one disease I know

> about, and want to avoid! Reactive hypoglycemia can lead to diabetes, so be

> very careful.

Can lead to Diabetes? Wow, OK. As far as being very careful goes, I guess I

am unsure as to what to really do. All I know if if I eat sugars or carbs I

have problems, so I avoid them. For instance I broke down and had some

Mexican food last night which included some corn chips. Now this morning I

am in fatigue/brain fog hell :-(

And others say avoiding carbs/sugars all together can itself lead to

hypoglycemia? The confusion mounts I guess. Cant have too much, cant have

too little.... Taking this all into mind, how would I " be careful " do you

think? Sorry, just having a hard time getting my head around what to do

about all this.

> We are taking MSM for the leaky gut. I know that it works for arthritis as it

> stops inflammation and helps to heal the cartilage. So, it is bound to help

> for the inflammation of the gut, as well as encourage the cells to heal. My

> husband also had aloe vera juice in the beginning, which also helped.

OK, thanks. And did you have a test for the leaky gut?

> Diet is the most important. Make sure you are avoiding anything you are

> allergic to. Also, if you get more sensitive to certain foods, it is probably

> because you haven't had it in a long time and the chemicals and such are too

> much for your body to deal with. Remember also that you are trying to heal

> your immune system so that everything can be made better.

I am not allergic to any foods (according to the tests) but am avoiding

everything I know I have sensitivities to.

> Do you have IBS? There are certain ways you must eat to avoid feeling awful.

I don't think I do, no.

Thank you for your help!

_jason_

_________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

[Guest guest]

On 5/22/06 5:08 PM, " Duncan Crow " <duncancrow@...> wrote:

> Maybe I can help with the worsening sensitivities AND the leaky

> gut.

>

> My clients use cold-processed whey because it contains a fair bit

> of l-glutamine as well as other amino acids that help a person

> generally, including the bowel wall, to grow and heal. It also

> reduces sensitivities by reducing toxin load and supporting the

> liver in doing its job at breaking toxins down, and as the body's

> master antioxidant and detoxifier it mops up these sources of

> irritation. The protein is also an asset for weight control.

Hi Duncan,

I am already taking a undenatured whey powder daily, but am unsure whether

it is cold processed or not:

http://www.houseofnutrition.com/nahebewh300g.html

Is it true that the whey must be the undenatured variety for maximum

glutathione content? The one I am using is fairly expensive, would love an

alternative I just checked your site, and which is better - the ImmunoPro RX

or the Immunplex? I thought I should avoid the Prolab ones since it is

sweetened, but looks like only .5 grams of sugars per serving. Looks

impressive otherwise! Hmmm. Do you think that one would be safe for someone

with Candida? You say that its sweetened with acesulfame potassium?

> Sensitivities are a lot worse when inflammatory omega-6 oils are

> consumed in excess. I myself and several clients had generalized

> sensitivities but improved dramatically in just a few days when

> we better controlled our edible oil intake. The reason for the

> improvement is given on the Budwig Diet Revision page on my

> website.

Yes, I noticed my sensitivies being much worse too when I was eating a lot

of roasted cashews, which have a lot of safflower oil in them. So that makes

perfect sense.

>> I guess that's the problem with a lot of these things,

>> is you do a bunch of research, and *think* you have something or the

>> other, then take the supplements for it. But then nothing really

>> happens, and eventually you are back to square one scratching your

>> head, going a million Google searches, etc.

>

> I agree, but it's only a matter of hitting on the correct

> combination of approaches despite not having the benefit of a

> definitive pile of lab analyses. That makes the observance of

> someone's personal diet and detox report a prime consideration in

> addition to knowledge of what the supplements are supposed to do

> at a molecular level. I think every individual practicing self-

> health goes through the same thing, and thank goodness for the

> discusion groups; I learned a lot myself even though I was

> already in practice when I joined a bunch of groups.

Yes! These groups have been a lifesaver. You yourself have provided some

great knowledge more than once, so many thanks

> Did you see the recent study that showed better bowel and mucosal

> lining flora as well as *much less bowel lining inflammation*

> when the subjects were using inulin? Well, we could and did guess

> that early on and started practicing it about five years ago, but

> it's been specifically verified by lab work. Same for recent

> studies in colitis and crohn's.

Hmm, no didn't see that. But have been checking out some stuff on Inulin as

per your suggestions. I think I need to add it to my arsenal!

Thank you for your help, Duncan! Highly appreciated!!

_jason_

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[Guest guest]

Re: Hypoglycemia? Confused here

On 5/21/06 11:17 PM, " Keen Venables " <kvenables@...> wrote:

> Yes, hypoglycemia in a diabetic is treated differently, as they can

die if

> their sugar does not come up again. My father has been a diabetic for

30

> years, my mom was one, and my brother is one, so that's one disease I

know

> about, and want to avoid! Reactive hypoglycemia can lead to diabetes,

so be

> very careful.

<<Can lead to Diabetes? Wow, OK. As far as being very careful goes, I

guess I

am unsure as to what to really do. All I know if if I eat sugars or

carbs I

have problems, so I avoid them. For instance I broke down and had some

Mexican food last night which included some corn chips. Now this morning

I

am in fatigue/brain fog hell :-(

And others say avoiding carbs/sugars all together can itself lead to

hypoglycemia? The confusion mounts I guess. Cant have too much, cant

have

too little.... Taking this all into mind, how would I " be careful " do

you

think? Sorry, just having a hard time getting my head around what to do

about all this.>>

Don't eat any sugar (in any form, even fruit). Don't eat refined carbs

at all. You need a certain amount of carb in your diet but it must be

in as unrefined form as you can get it. The refined carbs and sugars

trigger too much insulin production, and that can lead to your pancreas

misbehaving completely and not producing insulin at all. So, to sum up,

eat only unrefined carbs and no sugars at all.

> We are taking MSM for the leaky gut. I know that it works for

arthritis as it

> stops inflammation and helps to heal the cartilage. So, it is bound

to help

> for the inflammation of the gut, as well as encourage the cells to

heal. My

> husband also had aloe vera juice in the beginning, which also helped.

<<OK, thanks. And did you have a test for the leaky gut?>>

No, don't know of a doctor here that will test for it. But we are

feeling the effects of doing everything right, so I assume we are on the

right track.

> Diet is the most important. Make sure you are avoiding anything you

are

> allergic to. Also, if you get more sensitive to certain foods, it is

probably

> because you haven't had it in a long time and the chemicals and such

are too

> much for your body to deal with. Remember also that you are trying to

heal

> your immune system so that everything can be made better.

<<I am not allergic to any foods (according to the tests) but am

avoiding

everything I know I have sensitivities to.>>

That helps, I've read that eating foods you have a problem with can

extend the healing period.

> Do you have IBS? There are certain ways you must eat to avoid feeling

awful.

<<I don't think I do, no.>>

You would know if you had. Good, one less thing to worry about.

<<Thank you for your help!

_jason_>>

My pleasure, I hope I am helping you. Sorry for the shortness, but I

have to run.

Keen

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[Guest guest]

> I am already taking a undenatured whey powder daily, but am unsure

> whether it is cold processed or not:

>

> http://www.houseofnutrition.com/nahebewh300g.html

, cold-processing results in undenatured whey.

> Is it true that the whey must be the undenatured variety for maximum

> glutathione content?

Denaturing ruins the whey's glutathione precursors.

> The one I am using is fairly expensive, would

> love an alternative I just checked your site, and which is better -

> the ImmunoPro RX or the Immunplex?

I have no prefrence between ImmunoPro RX and Immunplex.

> I thought I should avoid the Prolab

> ones since it is sweetened, but looks like only .5 grams of sugars per

> serving. Looks impressive otherwise! Hmmm. Do you think that one would

> be safe for someone with Candida? You say that its sweetened with

> acesulfame potassium?

The natural sugar that may be left in any whey is safe as it's at

very low levels, less than you'd get in a carrot stick in many

cases. As to the added sweetener, what does the website say is in

it?

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/cold-processed-whey.html

> > I learned a lot myself even though I was already in practice

> > when I joined a bunch of groups.

>

> Yes! These groups have been a lifesaver. You yourself have provided

> some great knowledge more than once, so many thanks

You're welcome. A little digging goes a long way.

> Thank you for your help, Duncan! Highly appreciated!!

>

> _jason_

Duncan Crow

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Fenugreek helps out with balancing blood sugar levels, and I've taken

it (the seeds, specifically as a tea) on occasion when my blood sugar

creeps up. It is used as a treatment for diabetics and also those

with hormonal or digestive distress.

I seem to have the issue, where every so often, I simply cannot

tolerate carbs at all, and then three weeks later, I won't be able to

do anything but carbs (good ones of course), because the protein is

getting to me (body acidity). It's like a pendulum swinging back and

forth. I just don't seem to do well on the same things, every day,

all the time. It gets really interesting.

Alison :-)

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Thanks Duncan for all this clarification :-)

I ended up getting a whey mixture from my local natural food place that is

natural, free of all sweeteners, and chocked full of l-glutamine and amino

acids. Its called " Whey Pumped " and its from a company called MRM:

http://www.mrm-usa.com/proddetail.php?prod=Whey-Pumped%99-2.0lbs & cat=26

Does this look like a good choice? The sales guy who seemed to be an expert

on these products (he was a body builder) said that it is cold processed,

but now looking at the website I am unsure. " Advanced cross flow

micro-filtration and ion exchange process " doesn't sound like it, but I

don't know. Any clues?

On 5/24/06 9:44 AM, " Duncan Crow " <duncancrow@...> wrote:

>> I am already taking a undenatured whey powder daily, but am unsure

>> whether it is cold processed or not:

>>

>> http://www.houseofnutrition.com/nahebewh300g.html

>

> , cold-processing results in undenatured whey.

>

>> Is it true that the whey must be the undenatured variety for maximum

>> glutathione content?

>

> Denaturing ruins the whey's glutathione precursors.

>

>> The one I am using is fairly expensive, would

>> love an alternative I just checked your site, and which is better -

>> the ImmunoPro RX or the Immunplex?

>

> I have no prefrence between ImmunoPro RX and Immunplex.

>

>> I thought I should avoid the Prolab

>> ones since it is sweetened, but looks like only .5 grams of sugars per

>> serving. Looks impressive otherwise! Hmmm. Do you think that one would

>> be safe for someone with Candida? You say that its sweetened with

>> acesulfame potassium?

>

> The natural sugar that may be left in any whey is safe as it's at

> very low levels, less than you'd get in a carrot stick in many

> cases. As to the added sweetener, what does the website say is in

> it?

> http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/cold-processed-whey.html

>

>>> I learned a lot myself even though I was already in practice

>>> when I joined a bunch of groups.

>>

>> Yes! These groups have been a lifesaver. You yourself have provided

>> some great knowledge more than once, so many thanks

>

> You're welcome. A little digging goes a long way.

>

>> Thank you for your help, Duncan! Highly appreciated!!

>>

>> _jason_

>

> Duncan Crow

>

>

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>

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Hi

I just remembered something else. Are you taking chromium to help with

your blood sugar issues?

Keen

Re: Hypoglycemia? Confused here

On 5/21/06 11:17 PM, " Keen Venables " <kvenables@...> wrote:

> Yes, hypoglycemia in a diabetic is treated differently, as they can

die if

> their sugar does not come up again. My father has been a diabetic for

30

> years, my mom was one, and my brother is one, so that's one disease I

know

> about, and want to avoid! Reactive hypoglycemia can lead to diabetes,

so be

> very careful.

Can lead to Diabetes? Wow, OK. As far as being very careful goes, I

guess I

am unsure as to what to really do. All I know if if I eat sugars or

carbs I

have problems, so I avoid them. For instance I broke down and had some

Mexican food last night which included some corn chips. Now this morning

I

am in fatigue/brain fog hell :-(

And others say avoiding carbs/sugars all together can itself lead to

hypoglycemia? The confusion mounts I guess. Cant have too much, cant

have

too little.... Taking this all into mind, how would I " be careful " do

you

think? Sorry, just having a hard time getting my head around what to do

about all this.

> We are taking MSM for the leaky gut. I know that it works for

arthritis as it

> stops inflammation and helps to heal the cartilage. So, it is bound

to help

> for the inflammation of the gut, as well as encourage the cells to

heal. My

> husband also had aloe vera juice in the beginning, which also helped.

OK, thanks. And did you have a test for the leaky gut?

> Diet is the most important. Make sure you are avoiding anything you

are

> allergic to. Also, if you get more sensitive to certain foods, it is

probably

> because you haven't had it in a long time and the chemicals and such

are too

> much for your body to deal with. Remember also that you are trying to

heal

> your immune system so that everything can be made better.

I am not allergic to any foods (according to the tests) but am avoiding

everything I know I have sensitivities to.

> Do you have IBS? There are certain ways you must eat to avoid feeling

awful.

I don't think I do, no.

Thank you for your help!

_jason_

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> http://www.mrm-usa.com/proddetail.php?prod=Whey-Pumped%99-2.0lbs & cat=2

> 6

>

> Does this look like a good choice? The sales guy who seemed to be an

> expert on these products (he was a body builder) said that it is cold

> processed, but now looking at the website I am unsure. " Advanced cross

> flow micro-filtration and ion exchange process " doesn't sound like it,

> but I don't know. Any clues?

>

As cold-processing of undenatured whey is an important selling

feature, one would expect that it would be listed on the label as

such, and as you note, it isn't.

I wouldn't take the bodybuilder's word over the label. The

filtration and ion exchange processes can be applied to cooked

whey too.

Duncan

[Guest guest]

On 5/25/06 1:56 AM, " Keen Venables " <kvenables@...> wrote:

> Hi

>

> I just remembered something else. Are you taking chromium to help with

> your blood sugar issues?

Yes. It is in my trace minerals supplement I have been taking for a couple

months now:

http://vitanetonline.com/description/SN0354/vitamins/ColloidaLife-Trace-Mine

rals/

I remember when I read about Chromium, I looked for it separately, but was

only able to find it in these trace mineral liquids.

_jason_

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[Guest guest]

Hmm, we sell it here separately, strange that you can't get it on it's

own. I couldn't help you with a make as I live in South Africa and the

make I use is local.

But I'm sure that taking the trace minerals can't hurt, since our bodies

are not absorbing our food properly, we must be careful to supplement

everything we may need. I recently stopped magnesium due to cost issues

and found that I felt like hell until I started again. It is so

expensive for all the pills I take, but without them I don't feel like

I'm living, so we have to bite the bullet and just shell out the money.

Luckily we have a chain of chemists (drugstores, I think Americans call

it) here that sells most supplements at a cheaper price. That really

helps, because the health shops are very expensive.

Keen

Re: Hypoglycemia? Confused here

On 5/25/06 1:56 AM, " Keen Venables " <kvenables@...> wrote:

> Hi

>

> I just remembered something else. Are you taking chromium to help

with

> your blood sugar issues?

Yes. It is in my trace minerals supplement I have been taking for a

couple

months now:

http://vitanetonline.com/description/SN0354/vitamins/ColloidaLife-Trace-

Mine

rals/

I remember when I read about Chromium, I looked for it separately, but

was

only able to find it in these trace mineral liquids.

_jason_

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