Re: Michigan M.D.

[Guest guest]

I have heard of Dr. Hertzberg before. Many bodybuilders see him or the other

doc at the clinic ( I can't think of his name offhand).

I had thrush and white tongue for many years. Since long-term diflucan, I do

not have it and my lupus went into remission, etc. We know that anti-fungals

work and I have gone the de-tox, supplement route before. I continue to eat

all organic food, use organic and natural products, following an

anti-histamine and anti-yeast diet. My immunologist agrees with all of this

action.

With the tonsils, it is apparent that some damage has been done to the

throat/tonsil area. I also, am afraid of having cancer. My decision to have

the

surgery has weighed heaviliy on my mind. I have decided to go forward not just

for myself, but hopefully for others. There are many Beaumont docs and even

VA docs that have had me do grand rounds, etc. There have been many theories

bouncing around about what has caused my medical problems.

I must try to have this confirmed---candida? Herpes Simplex Virus? (which

can cause all of this too and can be confined to the throat/esophogus or even a

Papiloma Virus which is also known to do this). CREST syndrome can cause some

of this too. I hope that between my extensive history, traditional medical

testing and alternative medical testing that an actual link can be made. If

so, I have urged to docs to write a paper on it. I have also contacted Pzifer

which makes diflucan, regarding the anti-fungal putting my lupus in remission

after seven years. This could be valuable information and maybe (I might be

too hopeful) that it can help others. Note--I also tested for low IGM too.

I work from home now as a writer and have launched a company selling product

(home cleaning / body care, etc.) that is environmentally-safe and people safe

too. Great for candida, fibro, cancer, cystic fibrosis patients etc. since

many of us are ultra sensitive to chemicals, too. If I find scientific

confirmation on my condition, believe me, I will do a media blitz, etc. I have

known too many who suffer quietly.

As far as stress, unhappiness, etc. causing all of these things---it doesn't

really apply here. I am doing what I want in life, have a wonderful partner,

etc. Stress can contribute but I do not believe it is a cause.

I will definately look up Dr. Hertzberg after my surgery. I know that this

will be a long road to travel and help I can get will be appreciated.

Take care,

Steph in MI

[Guest guest]

DJ Tech,

I'm from michigan too and was wondering if you were

from the Metro Detroit area like me.

Oh, never mind, I just checked out Dr. Hertzborg's web

site and he is in Southfield so you must be close.

I'll have to check him out. Any other good resources

in the area?

I'd be wiling to compare notes.

Kirktalon

--- DJ Tech <candida@...> wrote:

> Hi Steph,

>

> I feel very lucky that I found a doctor as quickly

> as I did. I've read of

> people looking for years without any luck. The

> doctor I am going to is Dr.

> Mark Hertzberg www.hertzberg.com. He is a M.D. that

> is dedicated to

> preventive medicine. He participates in anti-aging

> and is an expert and

> nutritional therapy.

>

> Dr. Hertzberg's assistant Brad is a candidiasis

> expert. He knew Dr. Crook

> and Dr. Adkins. They were able to diagnose me based

> on my results of a

> questionnaire and doing some routine tests (think

> road side sobriety tests).

> I was very impressed at the amount of information

> both of these guys had in

> relation to candida. Every other doctor I spoke to

> couldn't answer any of

> my questions.

>

> Tonsil stones! I read about that a couple times

> before and wasn't sure what

> those were. After receiving your message I did some

> Google searching about

> it and it sounds like that is what I'm seeing in my

> throat.

>

> My opinion (after very limited research) is that

> tonsil stones are being

> produced because I still have thrush. Do you have

> white coloring on your

> tongue? I think if you have this condition you

> should expect tonsil stones.

>

> Were there any other factors you have not mentioned

> that lead you to the

> conclusion you needed your tonsils taken out? To me

> going under the knife

> is very serious and unless my tonsils were causing

> me problems (versus a

> by-product of candidiasis; tonsil stones) I wouldn't

> have that done.

>

> I'm no doctor so please don't take me as an

> authority. I would suggest you

> see Dr. Hertzberg before having surgery. I also

> wouldn't put any faith in a

> culture, these have failed me numerous times in the

> past.

>

> > Re: Hello from Michigan

> >

> > I am also from Michigan and have had the same

> experience with

> > the Infectious

> > Disease docs -- what a joke. My immunologist at

> Henry Ford

> > has had me on

> > difulcan for approx. 7 months--they even did an IV

> since my

> > throat was so bad in

> > the beginning. I have had constant tonsil stones

> and am

> > having a tonsillectomy

> > tomorrow. They will culture the sinus washings

> and throat

> > for all fungi.

> > That is the only way they can keep me on the

> diflucan. I

> > had a systemic

> > infection in the 1980's and was given natural

> anti-fungal

> > treatment and immune

> > boosters by and ENT that went into Environmental

> Medicine. I

> > did well for over 9

> > years until he retired. Then 2 years after, even

> after

> > keeping up with

> > supplements and diet -- all hell broke loose.

> Rashes, brain

> > fog, muscle problems,

> > metabollic deficiencies, etc. I was diagnosed

> with lupus and

> > I am a Muscular

> > Dystrophy patient for mitochondrial disease. They

> did an

> > open muscle biopsy and

> > found irregular muscle fibers, etc. I asked if a

> fungal

> > infection could

> > cause these things and they said YES.

> >

> > Who is your doc here in Michigan? Two MDs at

> Beaumont

> > suggested I see an

> > Environmental doc in Chicago or go to Dr. Rae's

> clinic in Houston.

> >

> > Steph in MI

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Wow that is amazing, we have a lot in common. I'm glad you put a lot of

thought into this, surgery is permanent. My Mother had her gallbladder

taken out years ago and it now seems that it was unnecessary.

How many years did you have thrush? I'm going on 6 years . I am probably

in the same situation as you (damaged tonsils).

By diagnosis do you mean by a lab? It sounds pointless to try to diagnose

candida since it is normally found in healthy people. Most people who have

candidiasis test negative on cultures (according to what I've read on-line).

It does sound logical for you to determine why you are still getting tonsil

stones if you don't have thrush. HPV is a scary thought, you got me

thinking.

Lupus is muscle pain without a known cause right? If anti fungal meds help

and avoiding yeast feeding foods help what else do you need to prove your

condition? Fungus causes muscle problems.

Did you have asthma when you were a child? I think I had an over abundant

yeast population all of my life and when I came in contact to a more

virulent strain in college it converted the population to fungus.

I think all the anti biotics and allergy shots and medication I've taken

have taught my immune system to stay away from candida. Now I must reduce

my yeast population by making my body inhospitable for candida.

I wish you the best of results from your surgery. Keep in touch

> Re: Michigan M.D.

>

> I have heard of Dr. Hertzberg before. Many bodybuilders see

> him or the other

> doc at the clinic ( I can't think of his name offhand).

>

> I had thrush and white tongue for many years. Since

> long-term diflucan, I do

> not have it and my lupus went into remission, etc. We know

> that anti-fungals

> work and I have gone the de-tox, supplement route before. I

> continue to eat

> all organic food, use organic and natural products, following an

> anti-histamine and anti-yeast diet. My immunologist agrees

> with all of this action.

>

> With the tonsils, it is apparent that some damage has been

> done to the

> throat/tonsil area. I also, am afraid of having cancer. My

> decision to have the

> surgery has weighed heaviliy on my mind. I have decided to

> go forward not just

> for myself, but hopefully for others. There are many

> Beaumont docs and even

> VA docs that have had me do grand rounds, etc. There have

> been many theories

> bouncing around about what has caused my medical problems.

>

> I must try to have this confirmed---candida? Herpes Simplex

> Virus? (which

> can cause all of this too and can be confined to the

> throat/esophogus or even a

> Papiloma Virus which is also known to do this). CREST

> syndrome can cause some

> of this too. I hope that between my extensive history,

> traditional medical

> testing and alternative medical testing that an actual link

> can be made. If

> so, I have urged to docs to write a paper on it. I have

> also contacted Pzifer

> which makes diflucan, regarding the anti-fungal putting my

> lupus in remission

> after seven years. This could be valuable information and

> maybe (I might be

> too hopeful) that it can help others. Note--I also tested

> for low IGM too.

>

> I work from home now as a writer and have launched a company

> selling product

> (home cleaning / body care, etc.) that is

> environmentally-safe and people safe

> too. Great for candida, fibro, cancer, cystic fibrosis

> patients etc. since

> many of us are ultra sensitive to chemicals, too. If I find

> scientific

> confirmation on my condition, believe me, I will do a media

> blitz, etc. I have

> known too many who suffer quietly.

>

> As far as stress, unhappiness, etc. causing all of these

> things---it doesn't

> really apply here. I am doing what I want in life, have a

> wonderful partner,

> etc. Stress can contribute but I do not believe it is a cause.

>

> I will definately look up Dr. Hertzberg after my surgery. I

> know that this

> will be a long road to travel and help I can get will be appreciated.

>

> Take care,

> Steph in MI

>

>

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