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1) no-sugar/carb diet:

The no sugar diet can help alleviate symptoms. It is important if you

want to experience some relief. Remember, it's not a permanent

solution. Once you have your symptoms under control, you want to

commit to good health. Some people choose to skip the no sugar / carb

diet. Instead they accept their symptoms and commit to a healthy

lifestyle and heal over time.

2) nystatin and other anti-fungals:

I'm no expert, but I've seen people on the list mention that nystatin

kills all good and bad bacteria and yeasts. It will alleviate your

vag. inf. but it will not help with leaky gut. Please check with your NP.

Some people on the list use antifungals instead such as: oil of

oregano, garlic, caprylic acid, olive leaf extract, ... etc. Use one

for four days and then use another so that the yeast does not get used

to it. I've heard these anti-fungals only attack the candida but do

not attack the good bacteria. I have not used threelac. Only thing

I've heard mentioned on this list is that it's pricey and that even

though they claim it works without an anti-candida diet, it really

doesn't work without the diet.

3) detox:

I'm not sure what you can do to detox your body while taking

anti-fungals. I'm still trying to figure this out. Some have mentioned

the following techniques: epsom salt baths, colonics, liver flush,

psyllium and bentonite for regularity or ground flaxseeds, relaxation

techniques, drinking enough water, eating whole nutritious foods,

getting enough sleep, ... etc.

I hope this helps.

good luck,

sue.

> I have a rare form of yeast infection of which i must take Nystain

in it's many

> forms for. My PH was normal(4), I got lots of LB, and lots of little

spores. The

> treatment takes 30 days to complete. I have to eat a low sugar diet

(which I

> pretty much do, I will lower my intake anyways). The NP said to keep

my vit,

> mineral, probiotic, and natural supplementation.

>

> I guess I won't ever feel alone for a while, since I have so many

unwelcome

> friends down there.

>

> Has anyone had problems with Nystatin? Anything I can do to help these

> damn spores die? I have already ben taking Omega 3, E, Zinc, C,

Echinecea,

> garlic, Golden Seal, Oil of Oregano, and some LA (though everyone is

raving

> about the 3 Lac, I may need to get some)

>

> ~H

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> 1) no-sugar/carb diet:

Very good to know.

> 2) nystatin and other anti-fungals:

All anti-vaginal fungals (damned anti-biotcs) I have been on have never

harmed the flora down there. I get back to normal very quickly. In my case it

was the metro gel and Flagly that killed everything. I will continue to check

the

side effects of the Nystatin, which is NOT the most effective treatment for C.G.

that is flucytosine, it's very expensive and has to be hand-made by the

pharmacist.

> 3) detox:

I promise to be very Zen.

I bought my probiotics here: http://www.customprobiotics.com/ harry is very

nice.

HB

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> I'm no expert, but I've seen people on the list mention that nystatin

> kills all good and bad bacteria and yeasts. It will alleviate your

> vag. inf. but it will not help with leaky gut.

I checked with PubMed and found that in order to kill bacteria, the

nystatin has to be mixed with antibacterials. They call it an

antifungal. This seems to show that it's pretty specific to fungus

and will probably not influence bacteria in the bowel, either bad or

good.

Duncan Crow

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> Some people on the list use antifungals instead such as: oil of

> oregano, garlic, caprylic acid, olive leaf extract, ... etc. Use one

> for four days and then use another so that the yeast does not get used

> to it. I've heard these anti-fungals only attack the candida but do

> not attack the good bacteria.

Actually the reverse is true; these are braod spectrum and they all

kill bacteria, yeasts and even some viruses. So these will influence

bacteria in the bowel, both bad and good,

Duncan Crow

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> I'm not sure what you can do to detox your body while taking

> anti-fungals. I'm still trying to figure this out. Some have mentioned

> the following techniques: epsom salt baths, colonics, liver flush,

> psyllium and bentonite for regularity or ground flaxseeds, relaxation

> techniques, drinking enough water, eating whole nutritious foods,

> getting enough sleep, ... etc.

You're body's main detoxifier is glutathione, made from precursors

that are plentiful in cold-processed whey. Other antioxidants are

also useful for detox. Another thing you can use that is in the top

three, is sweating. Your body's main organ of elimination is the

skin. Also, using external methods, you can use ozone steam saunas

which make you sweat but also the ozone breaks toxins and kills

microscopic invaders directly.

Duncan Crow

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> I have a rare form of yeast infection of which i must take Nystain

in it's many

> forms for. My PH was normal(4), I got lots of LB, and lots of

little spores. The

> treatment takes 30 days to complete. I have to eat a low sugar diet

(which I

> pretty much do, I will lower my intake anyways). The NP said to

keep my vit,

> mineral, probiotic, and natural supplementation.

>

> I guess I won't ever feel alone for a while, since I have so many

unwelcome

> friends down there.

>

> Has anyone had problems with Nystatin? Anything I can do to help

these

> damn spores die? I have already ben taking Omega 3, E, Zinc, C,

Echinecea,

> garlic, Golden Seal, Oil of Oregano, and some LA (though everyone

is raving

> about the 3 Lac, I may need to get some)

>

> ~I just read the yeast connection book and it seems to me that once

you stop taking the nystatin that symptoms come back twice as bad and

the full circle begins again. Not only that,insurance co. tend not to

pay for long periods of this kind of meds. good luck

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> Is nystain a prescription drug?

It's an antifungal (broad spectrum).

> anyways... what " rare " form do you have? Were you told

> the name of this yeast?

C.glabrata, which is becoming more common due to OTC anti-fungals and

Diflucan. They are a bit harder to get rid of, but it is possible. They are also

a

pest because most Dr.'s don't think to look for it.

You need to do a wet mount, look at it under a HIGH POWERED micoscope

and run a KOH culture to specifically name it. I went to a specialist and she

found it right away.

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