Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Last night for instance, I ate mango and I was itching a lot. Especially between my legs by my inner thigh. That is where it all started. On 1/6 I went into Kaiser for my regular check up which included a pap smear. I told her I was in menopause and I had my period for 15 days. The first four days were very very heavy. The nurse decided to do an EMB (cervical biopsies) Which came out negative by the way. The next day I started itching down there. All over in my inner thighs around my knees, my thighs and started going to my stomach. It went up under my breast where it is moist, to my chest, my under arms (another moist area) up my neck. My feet started itching. I was itching inside, not outside. One doctor called it internal itching. All the doctors I saw were confused and did not know what was wrong with me because all the tests were negative and there was no outward sign of rash, hives or anything, but my scratch marks and bruises to show them evidence they were familiar with. Stupid doctors! I cannot believe their insensitivity. That when they don't know what is wrong they close the door in my face. That is so bad. They are not connected to us and they don't wanna be. Even if the medical board does not recognize alternative medicine that is still uncaring and rude! Of course my first impression would be to think that the EMB did something.... But the nurse who by the way was very rude to me, said she has done that procedure for 20 years, and refused to think that there was ANY possibility that it had anything to do with my extreme internal itching all over my body. The more I tried to make sense of it....the more she closed up. She didn't want to hear it. She advised me to go to internal medicine. And that I did. AND THAN to allergy .....to dermatology....to another doctor with my Bluecross outside of Kaiser. It's been a confusing 4 months. Right now I am still itching but not as much. I started the candida diet, but I am not following it completely. But I have cut out all sugars, no candy at See's, and I minimize my carbs. I stopped drinking coffee after 30 years and now drink green tea. Part of my headaches right now. But also I think I am detoxing. I am doing garlic, yeast defense followed by probiotics and I am getting ready to see a homeopathic doctor as soon as I check to see if Bluecross will cover it and I want to do a Colon cleanse. She is the one that said to me:>>>> Peggy, internal itching of the type you describe can be due to an overgrowth in yeast and candida type molds in the body. They can easily grow in areas when the immune system is weak or there is trauma (even surgical trauma). Steroids only suppress the inflammatory response but do not kill the pathogens. I am suprised that no one did a stool culture at least to check for levels of yeast/pathogenic bacteria and molds in your body. An antifungal either herbal or prescriptive is very effective followed by the proper probiotics. Our clinic can evaluate this for you and the cost would be $150.00 for the initial one hour consult and testing plus any cost for the stool test. It is not good to stay on steroids and there are many effective ways to treat your condition without having to suppress symptoms. If you are interested please contact Jillian for an appointment and told her I told you it would be a 1 hour appointment base on our conversation. Manayan 408-262-6900 Dr. Manayan is the one that put this candida thing into my mind. The surgical trauma she is talking about is the EMB. Take care everyone....and remember to KEEP LOOKIN' UP, =Peggy On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:28:24 -0000 " " <monica.james@...> writes: Hi Peggy, I think you're right, that we're all suffering from yeast out of control! I've tried to rationalize why my situation was different from the systemic problems that I've heard others describe, but essentially, I think you've hit the nail on the head--yeast! As I've started the candida diet and started to feel a bit better, I've actually noticed that I have itching in my ears, nose, and throat that could be related to it being allergy season, but it could also be that pesky yeast that seems to have gotten into every nook and cranny of my body! Diflucan is an antifungal drug in pill form that's supposed to be able to cure a yeast infection with in one dose...however, I took it off and on for the past few years and a few weeks ago I took it for five days in a row and it doesn't seem to help me much at all anymore. The only thing that seems to be working now is the candida diet and grapefruit seed extract, which I learned on these message boards is a natural antifungal. Anyway, good luck on your research and let us all know what you find! > > and , > From reading your emails it sounds like you are suffering from severe > vaginal itching. > I was trying to separate what you are going through from what I am going > through. > But vaginal itching and the internal itching that I have are caused by > the same culprit....YEAST OUT > OF CONTROL. > > I am not itching so much in the vaginal area. But all of my life ever > since I started having sex > I have been irritated down there. People do pass things amongst > eachother. Especailly after having my first child. I actually was told by > a doctor > it was a yeast infection because there was evidence of white stuff > discharging. Back in the 70's > we used monostat and antibiotics. What is diflucan ??? Is this an > antibiotic? > > I don't have time to do research....I have two full days ahead of me. > MOn. and Tues. are always wild. > But as soon as I have time I will do some research on this and the > Question....can we overdose on suppliments ? > and some colon cleansing questions. What brand of Biotin do ya'll use? > > Take care, > -P > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...> > writes: > Hi , > I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am > going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just humoring > me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much > about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. " > > I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and > have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon > cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal > rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and > supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but that's > the idea. > > I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any > good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I guess > I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me > systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am > not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan. > > It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO > much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I > will be healthier than I have ever been before... > > Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me immense > amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled > relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut. > > Please email me any time. > > > It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the > music, it seems to melt away. > ~ O'Connor > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Sorry about your itchiness! By the way, the nurse will never confess anything for fear of a medial malpractice lawsuit. Maybe it was the lube they put on the tools they use. (Like KY Jelly - I'm not sure what the ingredients are but perhaps you are allergic to it?) I also have to stay away from anything citrus. I can't even use citrus soap! I take vitamin C tablets but I think the part that bothers me, and maybe you, it the acid mixed with the natural sugar in fruits. 'Burts Bees " line of products has both citric and sugar properties in some of their products and I can't use them or I get an itchy rash between my legs and behind my knees. I have noticed that taking grapefruit seed extract continuously has helped me a lot with skin rashes, foliiculitis and body odor. I am also doing a gentle bowel cleanse but sometimes forget to take the pills. BTW, I have BlueCrossBlueShield PPO and they have a Naturopath available so perhaps they are catching on? Also, it may be beneficial to keep a food diary so you can remember what single or combinations of foods cause your skin to itch. Alison, Chicago _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of peggypooh1@... Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:43 AM candidiasis Subject: Re: Is there Life after Candida Last night for instance, I ate mango and I was itching a lot. Especially between my legs by my inner thigh. That is where it all started. On 1/6 I went into Kaiser for my regular check up which included a pap smear. I told her I was in menopause and I had my period for 15 days. The first four days were very very heavy. The nurse decided to do an EMB (cervical biopsies) Which came out negative by the way. The next day I started itching down there. All over in my inner thighs around my knees, my thighs and started going to my stomach. It went up under my breast where it is moist, to my chest, my under arms (another moist area) up my neck. My feet started itching. I was itching inside, not outside. One doctor called it internal itching. All the doctors I saw were confused and did not know what was wrong with me because all the tests were negative and there was no outward sign of rash, hives or anything, but my scratch marks and bruises to show them evidence they were familiar with. Stupid doctors! I cannot believe their insensitivity. That when they don't know what is wrong they close the door in my face. That is so bad. They are not connected to us and they don't wanna be. Even if the medical board does not recognize alternative medicine that is still uncaring and rude! Of course my first impression would be to think that the EMB did something.... But the nurse who by the way was very rude to me, said she has done that procedure for 20 years, and refused to think that there was ANY possibility that it had anything to do with my extreme internal itching all over my body. The more I tried to make sense of it....the more she closed up. She didn't want to hear it. She advised me to go to internal medicine. And that I did. AND THAN to allergy .....to dermatology....to another doctor with my Bluecross outside of Kaiser. It's been a confusing 4 months. Right now I am still itching but not as much. I started the candida diet, but I am not following it completely. But I have cut out all sugars, no candy at See's, and I minimize my carbs. I stopped drinking coffee after 30 years and now drink green tea. Part of my headaches right now. But also I think I am detoxing. I am doing garlic, yeast defense followed by probiotics and I am getting ready to see a homeopathic doctor as soon as I check to see if Bluecross will cover it and I want to do a Colon cleanse. She is the one that said to me:>>>> Peggy, internal itching of the type you describe can be due to an overgrowth in yeast and candida type molds in the body. They can easily grow in areas when the immune system is weak or there is trauma (even surgical trauma). Steroids only suppress the inflammatory response but do not kill the pathogens. I am suprised that no one did a stool culture at least to check for levels of yeast/pathogenic bacteria and molds in your body. An antifungal either herbal or prescriptive is very effective followed by the proper probiotics. Our clinic can evaluate this for you and the cost would be $150.00 for the initial one hour consult and testing plus any cost for the stool test. It is not good to stay on steroids and there are many effective ways to treat your condition without having to suppress symptoms. If you are interested please contact Jillian for an appointment and told her I told you it would be a 1 hour appointment base on our conversation. Manayan 408-262-6900 Dr. Manayan is the one that put this candida thing into my mind. The surgical trauma she is talking about is the EMB. Take care everyone....and remember to KEEP LOOKIN' UP, =Peggy On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:28:24 -0000 " " <monica.james@...> writes: Hi Peggy, I think you're right, that we're all suffering from yeast out of control! I've tried to rationalize why my situation was different from the systemic problems that I've heard others describe, but essentially, I think you've hit the nail on the head--yeast! As I've started the candida diet and started to feel a bit better, I've actually noticed that I have itching in my ears, nose, and throat that could be related to it being allergy season, but it could also be that pesky yeast that seems to have gotten into every nook and cranny of my body! Diflucan is an antifungal drug in pill form that's supposed to be able to cure a yeast infection with in one dose...however, I took it off and on for the past few years and a few weeks ago I took it for five days in a row and it doesn't seem to help me much at all anymore. The only thing that seems to be working now is the candida diet and grapefruit seed extract, which I learned on these message boards is a natural antifungal. Anyway, good luck on your research and let us all know what you find! > > and , > From reading your emails it sounds like you are suffering from severe > vaginal itching. > I was trying to separate what you are going through from what I am going > through. > But vaginal itching and the internal itching that I have are caused by > the same culprit....YEAST OUT > OF CONTROL. > > I am not itching so much in the vaginal area. But all of my life ever > since I started having sex > I have been irritated down there. People do pass things amongst > eachother. Especailly after having my first child. I actually was told by > a doctor > it was a yeast infection because there was evidence of white stuff > discharging. Back in the 70's > we used monostat and antibiotics. What is diflucan ??? Is this an > antibiotic? > > I don't have time to do research....I have two full days ahead of me. > MOn. and Tues. are always wild. > But as soon as I have time I will do some research on this and the > Question....can we overdose on suppliments ? > and some colon cleansing questions. What brand of Biotin do ya'll use? > > Take care, > -P > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...> > writes: > Hi , > I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am > going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just humoring > me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much > about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. " > > I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and > have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon > cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal > rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and > supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but that's > the idea. > > I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any > good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I guess > I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me > systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am > not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan. > > It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO > much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I > will be healthier than I have ever been before... > > Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me immense > amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled > relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut. > > Please email me any time. > > > It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the > music, it seems to melt away. > ~ O'Connor > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Hi Alison, How does GSE help you ? I want to purchase it but I would like to know what it does for you in helping to heal ? I am itching very bad now and need relief :-( Thanks. Maggie Alison <Callesto71@...> wrote: Sorry about your itchiness! By the way, the nurse will never confess anything for fear of a medial malpractice lawsuit. Maybe it was the lube they put on the tools they use. (Like KY Jelly - I'm not sure what the ingredients are but perhaps you are allergic to it?) I also have to stay away from anything citrus. I can't even use citrus soap! I take vitamin C tablets but I think the part that bothers me, and maybe you, it the acid mixed with the natural sugar in fruits. 'Burts Bees " line of products has both citric and sugar properties in some of their products and I can't use them or I get an itchy rash between my legs and behind my knees. I have noticed that taking grapefruit seed extract continuously has helped me a lot with skin rashes, foliiculitis and body odor. I am also doing a gentle bowel cleanse but sometimes forget to take the pills. BTW, I have BlueCrossBlueShield PPO and they have a Naturopath available so perhaps they are catching on? Also, it may be beneficial to keep a food diary so you can remember what single or combinations of foods cause your skin to itch. Alison, Chicago _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of peggypooh1@... Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:43 AM candidiasis Subject: Re: Is there Life after Candida Last night for instance, I ate mango and I was itching a lot. Especially between my legs by my inner thigh. That is where it all started. On 1/6 I went into Kaiser for my regular check up which included a pap smear. I told her I was in menopause and I had my period for 15 days. The first four days were very very heavy. The nurse decided to do an EMB (cervical biopsies) Which came out negative by the way. The next day I started itching down there. All over in my inner thighs around my knees, my thighs and started going to my stomach. It went up under my breast where it is moist, to my chest, my under arms (another moist area) up my neck. My feet started itching. I was itching inside, not outside. One doctor called it internal itching. All the doctors I saw were confused and did not know what was wrong with me because all the tests were negative and there was no outward sign of rash, hives or anything, but my scratch marks and bruises to show them evidence they were familiar with. Stupid doctors! I cannot believe their insensitivity. That when they don't know what is wrong they close the door in my face. That is so bad. They are not connected to us and they don't wanna be. Even if the medical board does not recognize alternative medicine that is still uncaring and rude! Of course my first impression would be to think that the EMB did something.... But the nurse who by the way was very rude to me, said she has done that procedure for 20 years, and refused to think that there was ANY possibility that it had anything to do with my extreme internal itching all over my body. The more I tried to make sense of it....the more she closed up. She didn't want to hear it. She advised me to go to internal medicine. And that I did. AND THAN to allergy .....to dermatology....to another doctor with my Bluecross outside of Kaiser. It's been a confusing 4 months. Right now I am still itching but not as much. I started the candida diet, but I am not following it completely. But I have cut out all sugars, no candy at See's, and I minimize my carbs. I stopped drinking coffee after 30 years and now drink green tea. Part of my headaches right now. But also I think I am detoxing. I am doing garlic, yeast defense followed by probiotics and I am getting ready to see a homeopathic doctor as soon as I check to see if Bluecross will cover it and I want to do a Colon cleanse. She is the one that said to me:>>>> Peggy, internal itching of the type you describe can be due to an overgrowth in yeast and candida type molds in the body. They can easily grow in areas when the immune system is weak or there is trauma (even surgical trauma). Steroids only suppress the inflammatory response but do not kill the pathogens. I am suprised that no one did a stool culture at least to check for levels of yeast/pathogenic bacteria and molds in your body. An antifungal either herbal or prescriptive is very effective followed by the proper probiotics. Our clinic can evaluate this for you and the cost would be $150.00 for the initial one hour consult and testing plus any cost for the stool test. It is not good to stay on steroids and there are many effective ways to treat your condition without having to suppress symptoms. If you are interested please contact Jillian for an appointment and told her I told you it would be a 1 hour appointment base on our conversation. Manayan 408-262-6900 Dr. Manayan is the one that put this candida thing into my mind. The surgical trauma she is talking about is the EMB. Take care everyone....and remember to KEEP LOOKIN' UP, =Peggy On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:28:24 -0000 " " <monica.james@...> writes: Hi Peggy, I think you're right, that we're all suffering from yeast out of control! I've tried to rationalize why my situation was different from the systemic problems that I've heard others describe, but essentially, I think you've hit the nail on the head--yeast! As I've started the candida diet and started to feel a bit better, I've actually noticed that I have itching in my ears, nose, and throat that could be related to it being allergy season, but it could also be that pesky yeast that seems to have gotten into every nook and cranny of my body! Diflucan is an antifungal drug in pill form that's supposed to be able to cure a yeast infection with in one dose...however, I took it off and on for the past few years and a few weeks ago I took it for five days in a row and it doesn't seem to help me much at all anymore. The only thing that seems to be working now is the candida diet and grapefruit seed extract, which I learned on these message boards is a natural antifungal. Anyway, good luck on your research and let us all know what you find! > > and , > From reading your emails it sounds like you are suffering from severe > vaginal itching. > I was trying to separate what you are going through from what I am going > through. > But vaginal itching and the internal itching that I have are caused by > the same culprit....YEAST OUT > OF CONTROL. > > I am not itching so much in the vaginal area. But all of my life ever > since I started having sex > I have been irritated down there. People do pass things amongst > eachother. Especailly after having my first child. I actually was told by > a doctor > it was a yeast infection because there was evidence of white stuff > discharging. Back in the 70's > we used monostat and antibiotics. What is diflucan ??? Is this an > antibiotic? > > I don't have time to do research....I have two full days ahead of me. > MOn. and Tues. are always wild. > But as soon as I have time I will do some research on this and the > Question....can we overdose on suppliments ? > and some colon cleansing questions. What brand of Biotin do ya'll use? > > Take care, > -P > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...> > writes: > Hi , > I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am > going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just humoring > me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much > about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. " > > I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and > have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon > cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal > rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and > supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but that's > the idea. > > I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any > good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I guess > I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me > systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am > not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan. > > It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO > much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I > will be healthier than I have ever been before... > > Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me immense > amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled > relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut. > > Please email me any time. > > > It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the > music, it seems to melt away. > ~ O'Connor > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 You know what is really unbelieveable? I was having my period going on OVER 20 days, and as soon as I started my garlic and yeast defense and probiotics it stopped that day and NO spotting. Just completely stopped. I thought this one would never end. Now I am going to wash ALL my undies in tea tree oil!!! Yepeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..................... -P On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Maggie McQuade <maggs914@...> writes: Hi Alison, How does GSE help you ? I want to purchase it but I would like to know what it does for you in helping to heal ? I am itching very bad now and need relief :-( Thanks. Maggie Alison <Callesto71@...> wrote: Sorry about your itchiness! By the way, the nurse will never confess anything for fear of a medial malpractice lawsuit. Maybe it was the lube they put on the tools they use. (Like KY Jelly - I'm not sure what the ingredients are but perhaps you are allergic to it?) I also have to stay away from anything citrus. I can't even use citrus soap! I take vitamin C tablets but I think the part that bothers me, and maybe you, it the acid mixed with the natural sugar in fruits. 'Burts Bees " line of products has both citric and sugar properties in some of their products and I can't use them or I get an itchy rash between my legs and behind my knees. I have noticed that taking grapefruit seed extract continuously has helped me a lot with skin rashes, foliiculitis and body odor. I am also doing a gentle bowel cleanse but sometimes forget to take the pills. BTW, I have BlueCrossBlueShield PPO and they have a Naturopath available so perhaps they are catching on? Also, it may be beneficial to keep a food diary so you can remember what single or combinations of foods cause your skin to itch. Alison, Chicago _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of peggypooh1@... Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:43 AM candidiasis Subject: Re: Is there Life after Candida Last night for instance, I ate mango and I was itching a lot. Especially between my legs by my inner thigh. That is where it all started. On 1/6 I went into Kaiser for my regular check up which included a pap smear. I told her I was in menopause and I had my period for 15 days. The first four days were very very heavy. The nurse decided to do an EMB (cervical biopsies) Which came out negative by the way. The next day I started itching down there. All over in my inner thighs around my knees, my thighs and started going to my stomach. It went up under my breast where it is moist, to my chest, my under arms (another moist area) up my neck. My feet started itching. I was itching inside, not outside. One doctor called it internal itching. All the doctors I saw were confused and did not know what was wrong with me because all the tests were negative and there was no outward sign of rash, hives or anything, but my scratch marks and bruises to show them evidence they were familiar with. Stupid doctors! I cannot believe their insensitivity. That when they don't know what is wrong they close the door in my face. That is so bad. They are not connected to us and they don't wanna be. Even if the medical board does not recognize alternative medicine that is still uncaring and rude! Of course my first impression would be to think that the EMB did something.... But the nurse who by the way was very rude to me, said she has done that procedure for 20 years, and refused to think that there was ANY possibility that it had anything to do with my extreme internal itching all over my body. The more I tried to make sense of it....the more she closed up. She didn't want to hear it. She advised me to go to internal medicine. And that I did. AND THAN to allergy .....to dermatology....to another doctor with my Bluecross outside of Kaiser. It's been a confusing 4 months. Right now I am still itching but not as much. I started the candida diet, but I am not following it completely. But I have cut out all sugars, no candy at See's, and I minimize my carbs. I stopped drinking coffee after 30 years and now drink green tea. Part of my headaches right now. But also I think I am detoxing. I am doing garlic, yeast defense followed by probiotics and I am getting ready to see a homeopathic doctor as soon as I check to see if Bluecross will cover it and I want to do a Colon cleanse. She is the one that said to me:>>>> Peggy, internal itching of the type you describe can be due to an overgrowth in yeast and candida type molds in the body. They can easily grow in areas when the immune system is weak or there is trauma (even surgical trauma). Steroids only suppress the inflammatory response but do not kill the pathogens. I am suprised that no one did a stool culture at least to check for levels of yeast/pathogenic bacteria and molds in your body. An antifungal either herbal or prescriptive is very effective followed by the proper probiotics. Our clinic can evaluate this for you and the cost would be $150.00 for the initial one hour consult and testing plus any cost for the stool test. It is not good to stay on steroids and there are many effective ways to treat your condition without having to suppress symptoms. If you are interested please contact Jillian for an appointment and told her I told you it would be a 1 hour appointment base on our conversation. Manayan 408-262-6900 Dr. Manayan is the one that put this candida thing into my mind. The surgical trauma she is talking about is the EMB. Take care everyone....and remember to KEEP LOOKIN' UP, =Peggy On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:28:24 -0000 " " <monica.james@...> writes: Hi Peggy, I think you're right, that we're all suffering from yeast out of control! I've tried to rationalize why my situation was different from the systemic problems that I've heard others describe, but essentially, I think you've hit the nail on the head--yeast! As I've started the candida diet and started to feel a bit better, I've actually noticed that I have itching in my ears, nose, and throat that could be related to it being allergy season, but it could also be that pesky yeast that seems to have gotten into every nook and cranny of my body! Diflucan is an antifungal drug in pill form that's supposed to be able to cure a yeast infection with in one dose...however, I took it off and on for the past few years and a few weeks ago I took it for five days in a row and it doesn't seem to help me much at all anymore. The only thing that seems to be working now is the candida diet and grapefruit seed extract, which I learned on these message boards is a natural antifungal. Anyway, good luck on your research and let us all know what you find! > > and , > From reading your emails it sounds like you are suffering from severe > vaginal itching. > I was trying to separate what you are going through from what I am going > through. > But vaginal itching and the internal itching that I have are caused by > the same culprit....YEAST OUT > OF CONTROL. > > I am not itching so much in the vaginal area. But all of my life ever > since I started having sex > I have been irritated down there. People do pass things amongst > eachother. Especailly after having my first child. I actually was told by > a doctor > it was a yeast infection because there was evidence of white stuff > discharging. Back in the 70's > we used monostat and antibiotics. What is diflucan ??? Is this an > antibiotic? > > I don't have time to do research....I have two full days ahead of me. > MOn. and Tues. are always wild. > But as soon as I have time I will do some research on this and the > Question....can we overdose on suppliments ? > and some colon cleansing questions. What brand of Biotin do ya'll use? > > Take care, > -P > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...> > writes: > Hi , > I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am > going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just humoring > me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much > about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. " > > I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and > have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon > cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal > rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and > supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but that's > the idea. > > I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any > good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I guess > I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me > systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am > not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan. > > It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO > much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I > will be healthier than I have ever been before... > > Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me immense > amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled > relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut. > > Please email me any time. > > > It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the > music, it seems to melt away. > ~ O'Connor > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 GSE does help me but you have to start out with a small dosage and drinks LOTS of water. The GSE helpes clean the toxins out of your system. I say drink LOTS of water because it will clean out any fermaented (old) food hanging out in your intestines and you stools will come out very acidic. You DO NOT want to experience acidic stools! The more water you drink the softer and less acidy your stool will be. It has helped my rashes not be so itchy and actually has helped my acne problem. My skin is very sensitive and I cannot use salicylic acid products. Make sure you read ALL the ingredients of every kind of lotion you buy because they are changing formulas. Some lotions have Salicylic Acid as well as other acids in them. All that stuff does is make my skin blotchy. GSE works well but I am also on a No yeast/wheat/gluten diet and am trying to keep my sugar intake low. As I said , start out with a small dosage otherwise you might get that “Yeast die off” which feels like a hangover times 100. Good Luck! Alison _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of Maggie McQuade Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:11 PM candidiasis Subject: RE: Is there Life after Candida Hi Alison, How does GSE help you ? I want to purchase it but I would like to know what it does for you in helping to heal ? I am itching very bad now and need relief :-( Thanks. Maggie Alison <Callesto71@...> wrote: Sorry about your itchiness! By the way, the nurse will never confess anything for fear of a medial malpractice lawsuit. Maybe it was the lube they put on the tools they use. (Like KY Jelly - I'm not sure what the ingredients are but perhaps you are allergic to it?) I also have to stay away from anything citrus. I can't even use citrus soap! I take vitamin C tablets but I think the part that bothers me, and maybe you, it the acid mixed with the natural sugar in fruits. 'Burts Bees " line of products has both citric and sugar properties in some of their products and I can't use them or I get an itchy rash between my legs and behind my knees. I have noticed that taking grapefruit seed extract continuously has helped me a lot with skin rashes, foliiculitis and body odor. I am also doing a gentle bowel cleanse but sometimes forget to take the pills. BTW, I have BlueCrossBlueShield PPO and they have a Naturopath available so perhaps they are catching on? Also, it may be beneficial to keep a food diary so you can remember what single or combinations of foods cause your skin to itch. Alison, Chicago _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of peggypooh1@... Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:43 AM candidiasis Subject: Re: Is there Life after Candida Last night for instance, I ate mango and I was itching a lot. Especially between my legs by my inner thigh. That is where it all started. On 1/6 I went into Kaiser for my regular check up which included a pap smear. I told her I was in menopause and I had my period for 15 days. The first four days were very very heavy. The nurse decided to do an EMB (cervical biopsies) Which came out negative by the way. The next day I started itching down there. All over in my inner thighs around my knees, my thighs and started going to my stomach. It went up under my breast where it is moist, to my chest, my under arms (another moist area) up my neck. My feet started itching. I was itching inside, not outside. One doctor called it internal itching. All the doctors I saw were confused and did not know what was wrong with me because all the tests were negative and there was no outward sign of rash, hives or anything, but my scratch marks and bruises to show them evidence they were familiar with. Stupid doctors! I cannot believe their insensitivity. That when they don't know what is wrong they close the door in my face. That is so bad. They are not connected to us and they don't wanna be. Even if the medical board does not recognize alternative medicine that is still uncaring and rude! Of course my first impression would be to think that the EMB did something.... But the nurse who by the way was very rude to me, said she has done that procedure for 20 years, and refused to think that there was ANY possibility that it had anything to do with my extreme internal itching all over my body. The more I tried to make sense of it....the more she closed up. She didn't want to hear it. She advised me to go to internal medicine. And that I did. AND THAN to allergy .....to dermatology....to another doctor with my Bluecross outside of Kaiser. It's been a confusing 4 months. Right now I am still itching but not as much. I started the candida diet, but I am not following it completely. But I have cut out all sugars, no candy at See's, and I minimize my carbs. I stopped drinking coffee after 30 years and now drink green tea. Part of my headaches right now. But also I think I am detoxing. I am doing garlic, yeast defense followed by probiotics and I am getting ready to see a homeopathic doctor as soon as I check to see if Bluecross will cover it and I want to do a Colon cleanse. She is the one that said to me:>>>> Peggy, internal itching of the type you describe can be due to an overgrowth in yeast and candida type molds in the body. They can easily grow in areas when the immune system is weak or there is trauma (even surgical trauma). Steroids only suppress the inflammatory response but do not kill the pathogens. I am suprised that no one did a stool culture at least to check for levels of yeast/pathogenic bacteria and molds in your body. An antifungal either herbal or prescriptive is very effective followed by the proper probiotics. Our clinic can evaluate this for you and the cost would be $150.00 for the initial one hour consult and testing plus any cost for the stool test. It is not good to stay on steroids and there are many effective ways to treat your condition without having to suppress symptoms. If you are interested please contact Jillian for an appointment and told her I told you it would be a 1 hour appointment base on our conversation. Manayan 408-262-6900 Dr. Manayan is the one that put this candida thing into my mind. The surgical trauma she is talking about is the EMB. Take care everyone....and remember to KEEP LOOKIN' UP, =Peggy On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:28:24 -0000 " " <monica.james@...> writes: Hi Peggy, I think you're right, that we're all suffering from yeast out of control! I've tried to rationalize why my situation was different from the systemic problems that I've heard others describe, but essentially, I think you've hit the nail on the head--yeast! As I've started the candida diet and started to feel a bit better, I've actually noticed that I have itching in my ears, nose, and throat that could be related to it being allergy season, but it could also be that pesky yeast that seems to have gotten into every nook and cranny of my body! Diflucan is an antifungal drug in pill form that's supposed to be able to cure a yeast infection with in one dose...however, I took it off and on for the past few years and a few weeks ago I took it for five days in a row and it doesn't seem to help me much at all anymore. The only thing that seems to be working now is the candida diet and grapefruit seed extract, which I learned on these message boards is a natural antifungal. Anyway, good luck on your research and let us all know what you find! > > and , > From reading your emails it sounds like you are suffering from severe > vaginal itching. > I was trying to separate what you are going through from what I am going > through. > But vaginal itching and the internal itching that I have are caused by > the same culprit....YEAST OUT > OF CONTROL. > > I am not itching so much in the vaginal area. But all of my life ever > since I started having sex > I have been irritated down there. People do pass things amongst > eachother. Especailly after having my first child. I actually was told by > a doctor > it was a yeast infection because there was evidence of white stuff > discharging. Back in the 70's > we used monostat and antibiotics. What is diflucan ??? Is this an > antibiotic? > > I don't have time to do research....I have two full days ahead of me. > MOn. and Tues. are always wild. > But as soon as I have time I will do some research on this and the > Question....can we overdose on suppliments ? > and some colon cleansing questions. What brand of Biotin do ya'll use? > > Take care, > -P > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...> > writes: > Hi , > I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am > going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just humoring > me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much > about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. " > > I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and > have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon > cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal > rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and > supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but that's > the idea. > > I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any > good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I guess > I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me > systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am > not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan. > > It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO > much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I > will be healthier than I have ever been before... > > Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me immense > amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled > relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut. > > Please email me any time. > > > It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the > music, it seems to melt away. > ~ O'Connor > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Also, the way it helps you heal is it releases toxins out of your system. GSE is a natural anti-biotic. You have to get the build up of toxins out of your system or else your system gets toxic overload and cannot protect itself. The reaction seems to be skin rashes, eczema, psoriasis, etc... Alison, Chicago _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of Maggie McQuade Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:11 PM candidiasis Subject: RE: Is there Life after Candida Hi Alison, How does GSE help you ? I want to purchase it but I would like to know what it does for you in helping to heal ? I am itching very bad now and need relief :-( Thanks. Maggie Alison <Callesto71@...> wrote: Sorry about your itchiness! By the way, the nurse will never confess anything for fear of a medial malpractice lawsuit. Maybe it was the lube they put on the tools they use. (Like KY Jelly - I'm not sure what the ingredients are but perhaps you are allergic to it?) I also have to stay away from anything citrus. I can't even use citrus soap! I take vitamin C tablets but I think the part that bothers me, and maybe you, it the acid mixed with the natural sugar in fruits. 'Burts Bees " line of products has both citric and sugar properties in some of their products and I can't use them or I get an itchy rash between my legs and behind my knees. I have noticed that taking grapefruit seed extract continuously has helped me a lot with skin rashes, foliiculitis and body odor. I am also doing a gentle bowel cleanse but sometimes forget to take the pills. BTW, I have BlueCrossBlueShield PPO and they have a Naturopath available so perhaps they are catching on? Also, it may be beneficial to keep a food diary so you can remember what single or combinations of foods cause your skin to itch. Alison, Chicago _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of peggypooh1@... Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:43 AM candidiasis Subject: Re: Is there Life after Candida Last night for instance, I ate mango and I was itching a lot. Especially between my legs by my inner thigh. That is where it all started. On 1/6 I went into Kaiser for my regular check up which included a pap smear. I told her I was in menopause and I had my period for 15 days. The first four days were very very heavy. The nurse decided to do an EMB (cervical biopsies) Which came out negative by the way. The next day I started itching down there. All over in my inner thighs around my knees, my thighs and started going to my stomach. It went up under my breast where it is moist, to my chest, my under arms (another moist area) up my neck. My feet started itching. I was itching inside, not outside. One doctor called it internal itching. All the doctors I saw were confused and did not know what was wrong with me because all the tests were negative and there was no outward sign of rash, hives or anything, but my scratch marks and bruises to show them evidence they were familiar with. Stupid doctors! I cannot believe their insensitivity. That when they don't know what is wrong they close the door in my face. That is so bad. They are not connected to us and they don't wanna be. Even if the medical board does not recognize alternative medicine that is still uncaring and rude! Of course my first impression would be to think that the EMB did something.... But the nurse who by the way was very rude to me, said she has done that procedure for 20 years, and refused to think that there was ANY possibility that it had anything to do with my extreme internal itching all over my body. The more I tried to make sense of it....the more she closed up. She didn't want to hear it. She advised me to go to internal medicine. And that I did. AND THAN to allergy .....to dermatology....to another doctor with my Bluecross outside of Kaiser. It's been a confusing 4 months. Right now I am still itching but not as much. I started the candida diet, but I am not following it completely. But I have cut out all sugars, no candy at See's, and I minimize my carbs. I stopped drinking coffee after 30 years and now drink green tea. Part of my headaches right now. But also I think I am detoxing. I am doing garlic, yeast defense followed by probiotics and I am getting ready to see a homeopathic doctor as soon as I check to see if Bluecross will cover it and I want to do a Colon cleanse. She is the one that said to me:>>>> Peggy, internal itching of the type you describe can be due to an overgrowth in yeast and candida type molds in the body. They can easily grow in areas when the immune system is weak or there is trauma (even surgical trauma). Steroids only suppress the inflammatory response but do not kill the pathogens. I am suprised that no one did a stool culture at least to check for levels of yeast/pathogenic bacteria and molds in your body. An antifungal either herbal or prescriptive is very effective followed by the proper probiotics. Our clinic can evaluate this for you and the cost would be $150.00 for the initial one hour consult and testing plus any cost for the stool test. It is not good to stay on steroids and there are many effective ways to treat your condition without having to suppress symptoms. If you are interested please contact Jillian for an appointment and told her I told you it would be a 1 hour appointment base on our conversation. Manayan 408-262-6900 Dr. Manayan is the one that put this candida thing into my mind. The surgical trauma she is talking about is the EMB. Take care everyone....and remember to KEEP LOOKIN' UP, =Peggy On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:28:24 -0000 " " <monica.james@...> writes: Hi Peggy, I think you're right, that we're all suffering from yeast out of control! I've tried to rationalize why my situation was different from the systemic problems that I've heard others describe, but essentially, I think you've hit the nail on the head--yeast! As I've started the candida diet and started to feel a bit better, I've actually noticed that I have itching in my ears, nose, and throat that could be related to it being allergy season, but it could also be that pesky yeast that seems to have gotten into every nook and cranny of my body! Diflucan is an antifungal drug in pill form that's supposed to be able to cure a yeast infection with in one dose...however, I took it off and on for the past few years and a few weeks ago I took it for five days in a row and it doesn't seem to help me much at all anymore. The only thing that seems to be working now is the candida diet and grapefruit seed extract, which I learned on these message boards is a natural antifungal. Anyway, good luck on your research and let us all know what you find! > > and , > From reading your emails it sounds like you are suffering from severe > vaginal itching. > I was trying to separate what you are going through from what I am going > through. > But vaginal itching and the internal itching that I have are caused by > the same culprit....YEAST OUT > OF CONTROL. > > I am not itching so much in the vaginal area. But all of my life ever > since I started having sex > I have been irritated down there. People do pass things amongst > eachother. Especailly after having my first child. I actually was told by > a doctor > it was a yeast infection because there was evidence of white stuff > discharging. Back in the 70's > we used monostat and antibiotics. What is diflucan ??? Is this an > antibiotic? > > I don't have time to do research....I have two full days ahead of me. > MOn. and Tues. are always wild. > But as soon as I have time I will do some research on this and the > Question....can we overdose on suppliments ? > and some colon cleansing questions. What brand of Biotin do ya'll use? > > Take care, > -P > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...> > writes: > Hi , > I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am > going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just humoring > me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much > about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. " > > I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and > have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon > cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal > rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and > supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but that's > the idea. > > I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any > good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I guess > I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me > systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am > not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan. > > It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO > much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I > will be healthier than I have ever been before... > > Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me immense > amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled > relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut. > > Please email me any time. > > > It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the > music, it seems to melt away. > ~ O'Connor > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 I was hoping there was a way to get the yeast out of the underwear, other than throwing them away and getting new ones! In honor of this list, I am at work today without any underwear on! But seriously, would washing them in hot water and tea tree oil work?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 The Sarna I have been using has Stearic acid... is that bad? -P On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:06:28 -0500 " Alison " <Callesto71@...> writes: GSE does help me but you have to start out with a small dosage and drinks LOTS of water. The GSE helpes clean the toxins out of your system. I say drink LOTS of water because it will clean out any fermaented (old) food hanging out in your intestines and you stools will come out very acidic. You DO NOT want to experience acidic stools! The more water you drink the softer and less acidy your stool will be. It has helped my rashes not be so itchy and actually has helped my acne problem. My skin is very sensitive and I cannot use salicylic acid products. Make sure you read ALL the ingredients of every kind of lotion you buy because they are changing formulas. Some lotions have Salicylic Acid as well as other acids in them. All that stuff does is make my skin blotchy. GSE works well but I am also on a No yeast/wheat/gluten diet and am trying to keep my sugar intake low. As I said , start out with a small dosage otherwise you might get that “Yeast die off” which feels like a hangover times 100. Good Luck! Alison _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of Maggie McQuade Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:11 PM candidiasis Subject: RE: Is there Life after Candida Hi Alison, How does GSE help you ? I want to purchase it but I would like to know what it does for you in helping to heal ? I am itching very bad now and need relief :-( Thanks. Maggie Alison <Callesto71@...> wrote: Sorry about your itchiness! By the way, the nurse will never confess anything for fear of a medial malpractice lawsuit. Maybe it was the lube they put on the tools they use. (Like KY Jelly - I'm not sure what the ingredients are but perhaps you are allergic to it?) I also have to stay away from anything citrus. I can't even use citrus soap! I take vitamin C tablets but I think the part that bothers me, and maybe you, it the acid mixed with the natural sugar in fruits. 'Burts Bees " line of products has both citric and sugar properties in some of their products and I can't use them or I get an itchy rash between my legs and behind my knees. I have noticed that taking grapefruit seed extract continuously has helped me a lot with skin rashes, foliiculitis and body odor. I am also doing a gentle bowel cleanse but sometimes forget to take the pills. BTW, I have BlueCrossBlueShield PPO and they have a Naturopath available so perhaps they are catching on? Also, it may be beneficial to keep a food diary so you can remember what single or combinations of foods cause your skin to itch. Alison, Chicago _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of peggypooh1@... Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:43 AM candidiasis Subject: Re: Is there Life after Candida Last night for instance, I ate mango and I was itching a lot. Especially between my legs by my inner thigh. That is where it all started. On 1/6 I went into Kaiser for my regular check up which included a pap smear. I told her I was in menopause and I had my period for 15 days. The first four days were very very heavy. The nurse decided to do an EMB (cervical biopsies) Which came out negative by the way. The next day I started itching down there. All over in my inner thighs around my knees, my thighs and started going to my stomach. It went up under my breast where it is moist, to my chest, my under arms (another moist area) up my neck. My feet started itching. I was itching inside, not outside. One doctor called it internal itching. All the doctors I saw were confused and did not know what was wrong with me because all the tests were negative and there was no outward sign of rash, hives or anything, but my scratch marks and bruises to show them evidence they were familiar with. Stupid doctors! I cannot believe their insensitivity. That when they don't know what is wrong they close the door in my face. That is so bad. They are not connected to us and they don't wanna be. Even if the medical board does not recognize alternative medicine that is still uncaring and rude! Of course my first impression would be to think that the EMB did something.... But the nurse who by the way was very rude to me, said she has done that procedure for 20 years, and refused to think that there was ANY possibility that it had anything to do with my extreme internal itching all over my body. The more I tried to make sense of it....the more she closed up. She didn't want to hear it. She advised me to go to internal medicine. And that I did. AND THAN to allergy .....to dermatology....to another doctor with my Bluecross outside of Kaiser. It's been a confusing 4 months. Right now I am still itching but not as much. I started the candida diet, but I am not following it completely. But I have cut out all sugars, no candy at See's, and I minimize my carbs. I stopped drinking coffee after 30 years and now drink green tea. Part of my headaches right now. But also I think I am detoxing. I am doing garlic, yeast defense followed by probiotics and I am getting ready to see a homeopathic doctor as soon as I check to see if Bluecross will cover it and I want to do a Colon cleanse. She is the one that said to me:>>>> Peggy, internal itching of the type you describe can be due to an overgrowth in yeast and candida type molds in the body. They can easily grow in areas when the immune system is weak or there is trauma (even surgical trauma). Steroids only suppress the inflammatory response but do not kill the pathogens. I am suprised that no one did a stool culture at least to check for levels of yeast/pathogenic bacteria and molds in your body. An antifungal either herbal or prescriptive is very effective followed by the proper probiotics. Our clinic can evaluate this for you and the cost would be $150.00 for the initial one hour consult and testing plus any cost for the stool test. It is not good to stay on steroids and there are many effective ways to treat your condition without having to suppress symptoms. If you are interested please contact Jillian for an appointment and told her I told you it would be a 1 hour appointment base on our conversation. Manayan 408-262-6900 Dr. Manayan is the one that put this candida thing into my mind. The surgical trauma she is talking about is the EMB. Take care everyone....and remember to KEEP LOOKIN' UP, =Peggy On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:28:24 -0000 " " <monica.james@...> writes: Hi Peggy, I think you're right, that we're all suffering from yeast out of control! I've tried to rationalize why my situation was different from the systemic problems that I've heard others describe, but essentially, I think you've hit the nail on the head--yeast! As I've started the candida diet and started to feel a bit better, I've actually noticed that I have itching in my ears, nose, and throat that could be related to it being allergy season, but it could also be that pesky yeast that seems to have gotten into every nook and cranny of my body! Diflucan is an antifungal drug in pill form that's supposed to be able to cure a yeast infection with in one dose...however, I took it off and on for the past few years and a few weeks ago I took it for five days in a row and it doesn't seem to help me much at all anymore. The only thing that seems to be working now is the candida diet and grapefruit seed extract, which I learned on these message boards is a natural antifungal. Anyway, good luck on your research and let us all know what you find! > > and , > From reading your emails it sounds like you are suffering from severe > vaginal itching. > I was trying to separate what you are going through from what I am going > through. > But vaginal itching and the internal itching that I have are caused by > the same culprit....YEAST OUT > OF CONTROL. > > I am not itching so much in the vaginal area. But all of my life ever > since I started having sex > I have been irritated down there. People do pass things amongst > eachother. Especailly after having my first child. I actually was told by > a doctor > it was a yeast infection because there was evidence of white stuff > discharging. Back in the 70's > we used monostat and antibiotics. What is diflucan ??? Is this an > antibiotic? > > I don't have time to do research....I have two full days ahead of me. > MOn. and Tues. are always wild. > But as soon as I have time I will do some research on this and the > Question....can we overdose on suppliments ? > and some colon cleansing questions. What brand of Biotin do ya'll use? > > Take care, > -P > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...> > writes: > Hi , > I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am > going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just humoring > me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much > about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. " > > I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and > have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon > cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal > rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and > supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but that's > the idea. > > I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any > good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I guess > I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me > systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am > not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan. > > It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO > much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I > will be healthier than I have ever been before... > > Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me immense > amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled > relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut. > > Please email me any time. > > > It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the > music, it seems to melt away. > ~ O'Connor > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 WHAT IS GSE CAN U RIE OUT THE FILL NAME AND WHERE CAN I GET IT. THANK U LINDA Alison <Callesto71@...> wrote: GSE does help me but you have to start out with a small dosage and drinks LOTS of water. The GSE helpes clean the toxins out of your system. I say drink LOTS of water because it will clean out any fermaented (old) food hanging out in your intestines and you stools will come out very acidic. You DO NOT want to experience acidic stools! The more water you drink the softer and less acidy your stool will be. It has helped my rashes not be so itchy and actually has helped my acne problem. My skin is very sensitive and I cannot use salicylic acid products. Make sure you read ALL the ingredients of every kind of lotion you buy because they are changing formulas. Some lotions have Salicylic Acid as well as other acids in them. All that stuff does is make my skin blotchy. GSE works well but I am also on a No yeast/wheat/gluten diet and am trying to keep my sugar intake low. As I said , start out with a small dosage otherwise you might get that �Yeast die off� which feels like a hangover times 100. Good Luck! Alison _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of Maggie McQuade Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:11 PM candidiasis Subject: RE: Is there Life after Candida Hi Alison, How does GSE help you ? I want to purchase it but I would like to know what it does for you in helping to heal ? I am itching very bad now and need relief :-( Thanks. Maggie Alison <Callesto71@...> wrote: Sorry about your itchiness! By the way, the nurse will never confess anything for fear of a medial malpractice lawsuit. Maybe it was the lube they put on the tools they use. (Like KY Jelly - I'm not sure what the ingredients are but perhaps you are allergic to it?) I also have to stay away from anything citrus. I can't even use citrus soap! I take vitamin C tablets but I think the part that bothers me, and maybe you, it the acid mixed with the natural sugar in fruits. 'Burts Bees " line of products has both citric and sugar properties in some of their products and I can't use them or I get an itchy rash between my legs and behind my knees. I have noticed that taking grapefruit seed extract continuously has helped me a lot with skin rashes, foliiculitis and body odor. I am also doing a gentle bowel cleanse but sometimes forget to take the pills. BTW, I have BlueCrossBlueShield PPO and they have a Naturopath available so perhaps they are catching on? Also, it may be beneficial to keep a food diary so you can remember what single or combinations of foods cause your skin to itch. Alison, Chicago _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of peggypooh1@... Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:43 AM candidiasis Subject: Re: Is there Life after Candida Last night for instance, I ate mango and I was itching a lot. Especially between my legs by my inner thigh. That is where it all started. On 1/6 I went into Kaiser for my regular check up which included a pap smear. I told her I was in menopause and I had my period for 15 days. The first four days were very very heavy. The nurse decided to do an EMB (cervical biopsies) Which came out negative by the way. The next day I started itching down there. All over in my inner thighs around my knees, my thighs and started going to my stomach. It went up under my breast where it is moist, to my chest, my under arms (another moist area) up my neck. My feet started itching. I was itching inside, not outside. One doctor called it internal itching. All the doctors I saw were confused and did not know what was wrong with me because all the tests were negative and there was no outward sign of rash, hives or anything, but my scratch marks and bruises to show them evidence they were familiar with. Stupid doctors! I cannot believe their insensitivity. That when they don't know what is wrong they close the door in my face. That is so bad. They are not connected to us and they don't wanna be. Even if the medical board does not recognize alternative medicine that is still uncaring and rude! Of course my first impression would be to think that the EMB did something.... But the nurse who by the way was very rude to me, said she has done that procedure for 20 years, and refused to think that there was ANY possibility that it had anything to do with my extreme internal itching all over my body. The more I tried to make sense of it....the more she closed up. She didn't want to hear it. She advised me to go to internal medicine. And that I did. AND THAN to allergy .....to dermatology....to another doctor with my Bluecross outside of Kaiser. It's been a confusing 4 months. Right now I am still itching but not as much. I started the candida diet, but I am not following it completely. But I have cut out all sugars, no candy at See's, and I minimize my carbs. I stopped drinking coffee after 30 years and now drink green tea. Part of my headaches right now. But also I think I am detoxing. I am doing garlic, yeast defense followed by probiotics and I am getting ready to see a homeopathic doctor as soon as I check to see if Bluecross will cover it and I want to do a Colon cleanse. She is the one that said to me:>>>> Peggy, internal itching of the type you describe can be due to an overgrowth in yeast and candida type molds in the body. They can easily grow in areas when the immune system is weak or there is trauma (even surgical trauma). Steroids only suppress the inflammatory response but do not kill the pathogens. I am suprised that no one did a stool culture at least to check for levels of yeast/pathogenic bacteria and molds in your body. An antifungal either herbal or prescriptive is very effective followed by the proper probiotics. Our clinic can evaluate this for you and the cost would be $150.00 for the initial one hour consult and testing plus any cost for the stool test. It is not good to stay on steroids and there are many effective ways to treat your condition without having to suppress symptoms. If you are interested please contact Jillian for an appointment and told her I told you it would be a 1 hour appointment base on our conversation. Manayan 408-262-6900 Dr. Manayan is the one that put this candida thing into my mind. The surgical trauma she is talking about is the EMB. Take care everyone....and remember to KEEP LOOKIN' UP, =Peggy On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:28:24 -0000 " " <monica.james@...> writes: Hi Peggy, I think you're right, that we're all suffering from yeast out of control! I've tried to rationalize why my situation was different from the systemic problems that I've heard others describe, but essentially, I think you've hit the nail on the head--yeast! As I've started the candida diet and started to feel a bit better, I've actually noticed that I have itching in my ears, nose, and throat that could be related to it being allergy season, but it could also be that pesky yeast that seems to have gotten into every nook and cranny of my body! Diflucan is an antifungal drug in pill form that's supposed to be able to cure a yeast infection with in one dose...however, I took it off and on for the past few years and a few weeks ago I took it for five days in a row and it doesn't seem to help me much at all anymore. The only thing that seems to be working now is the candida diet and grapefruit seed extract, which I learned on these message boards is a natural antifungal. Anyway, good luck on your research and let us all know what you find! > > and , > From reading your emails it sounds like you are suffering from severe > vaginal itching. > I was trying to separate what you are going through from what I am going > through. > But vaginal itching and the internal itching that I have are caused by > the same culprit....YEAST OUT > OF CONTROL. > > I am not itching so much in the vaginal area. But all of my life ever > since I started having sex > I have been irritated down there. People do pass things amongst > eachother. Especailly after having my first child. I actually was told by > a doctor > it was a yeast infection because there was evidence of white stuff > discharging. Back in the 70's > we used monostat and antibiotics. What is diflucan ??? Is this an > antibiotic? > > I don't have time to do research....I have two full days ahead of me. > MOn. and Tues. are always wild. > But as soon as I have time I will do some research on this and the > Question....can we overdose on suppliments ? > and some colon cleansing questions. What brand of Biotin do ya'll use? > > Take care, > -P > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...> > writes: > Hi , > I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am > going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just humoring > me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much > about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. " > > I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and > have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon > cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal > rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and > supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but that's > the idea. > > I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any > good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I guess > I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me > systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am > not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan. > > It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO > much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I > will be healthier than I have ever been before... > > Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me immense > amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled > relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut. > > Please email me any time. > > > It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the > music, it seems to melt away. > ~ O'Connor > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 , I was planning on following the instructions from the bottle on how much to take of GSE. I drink lots of water anyways. Thanks for the insight. -P On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:21:37 -0700 (PDT) linda riley <spice_1718@...> writes: WHAT IS GSE CAN U RIE OUT THE FILL NAME AND WHERE CAN I GET IT. THANK U LINDA Alison <Callesto71@...> wrote: GSE does help me but you have to start out with a small dosage and drinks LOTS of water. The GSE helpes clean the toxins out of your system. I say drink LOTS of water because it will clean out any fermaented (old) food hanging out in your intestines and you stools will come out very acidic. You DO NOT want to experience acidic stools! The more water you drink the softer and less acidy your stool will be. It has helped my rashes not be so itchy and actually has helped my acne problem. My skin is very sensitive and I cannot use salicylic acid products. Make sure you read ALL the ingredients of every kind of lotion you buy because they are changing formulas. Some lotions have Salicylic Acid as well as other acids in them. All that stuff does is make my skin blotchy. GSE works well but I am also on a No yeast/wheat/gluten diet and am trying to keep my sugar intake low. As I said , start out with a small dosage otherwise you might get that �Yeast die off� which feels like a hangover times 100. Good Luck! Alison _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of Maggie McQuade Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:11 PM candidiasis Subject: RE: Is there Life after Candida Hi Alison, How does GSE help you ? I want to purchase it but I would like to know what it does for you in helping to heal ? I am itching very bad now and need relief :-( Thanks. Maggie Alison <Callesto71@...> wrote: Sorry about your itchiness! By the way, the nurse will never confess anything for fear of a medial malpractice lawsuit. Maybe it was the lube they put on the tools they use. (Like KY Jelly - I'm not sure what the ingredients are but perhaps you are allergic to it?) I also have to stay away from anything citrus. I can't even use citrus soap! I take vitamin C tablets but I think the part that bothers me, and maybe you, it the acid mixed with the natural sugar in fruits. 'Burts Bees " line of products has both citric and sugar properties in some of their products and I can't use them or I get an itchy rash between my legs and behind my knees. I have noticed that taking grapefruit seed extract continuously has helped me a lot with skin rashes, foliiculitis and body odor. I am also doing a gentle bowel cleanse but sometimes forget to take the pills. BTW, I have BlueCrossBlueShield PPO and they have a Naturopath available so perhaps they are catching on? Also, it may be beneficial to keep a food diary so you can remember what single or combinations of foods cause your skin to itch. Alison, Chicago _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of peggypooh1@... Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:43 AM candidiasis Subject: Re: Is there Life after Candida Last night for instance, I ate mango and I was itching a lot. Especially between my legs by my inner thigh. That is where it all started. On 1/6 I went into Kaiser for my regular check up which included a pap smear. I told her I was in menopause and I had my period for 15 days. The first four days were very very heavy. The nurse decided to do an EMB (cervical biopsies) Which came out negative by the way. The next day I started itching down there. All over in my inner thighs around my knees, my thighs and started going to my stomach. It went up under my breast where it is moist, to my chest, my under arms (another moist area) up my neck. My feet started itching. I was itching inside, not outside. One doctor called it internal itching. All the doctors I saw were confused and did not know what was wrong with me because all the tests were negative and there was no outward sign of rash, hives or anything, but my scratch marks and bruises to show them evidence they were familiar with. Stupid doctors! I cannot believe their insensitivity. That when they don't know what is wrong they close the door in my face. That is so bad. They are not connected to us and they don't wanna be. Even if the medical board does not recognize alternative medicine that is still uncaring and rude! Of course my first impression would be to think that the EMB did something.... But the nurse who by the way was very rude to me, said she has done that procedure for 20 years, and refused to think that there was ANY possibility that it had anything to do with my extreme internal itching all over my body. The more I tried to make sense of it....the more she closed up. She didn't want to hear it. She advised me to go to internal medicine. And that I did. AND THAN to allergy .....to dermatology....to another doctor with my Bluecross outside of Kaiser. It's been a confusing 4 months. Right now I am still itching but not as much. I started the candida diet, but I am not following it completely. But I have cut out all sugars, no candy at See's, and I minimize my carbs. I stopped drinking coffee after 30 years and now drink green tea. Part of my headaches right now. But also I think I am detoxing. I am doing garlic, yeast defense followed by probiotics and I am getting ready to see a homeopathic doctor as soon as I check to see if Bluecross will cover it and I want to do a Colon cleanse. She is the one that said to me:>>>> Peggy, internal itching of the type you describe can be due to an overgrowth in yeast and candida type molds in the body. They can easily grow in areas when the immune system is weak or there is trauma (even surgical trauma). Steroids only suppress the inflammatory response but do not kill the pathogens. I am suprised that no one did a stool culture at least to check for levels of yeast/pathogenic bacteria and molds in your body. An antifungal either herbal or prescriptive is very effective followed by the proper probiotics. Our clinic can evaluate this for you and the cost would be $150.00 for the initial one hour consult and testing plus any cost for the stool test. It is not good to stay on steroids and there are many effective ways to treat your condition without having to suppress symptoms. If you are interested please contact Jillian for an appointment and told her I told you it would be a 1 hour appointment base on our conversation. Manayan 408-262-6900 Dr. Manayan is the one that put this candida thing into my mind. The surgical trauma she is talking about is the EMB. Take care everyone....and remember to KEEP LOOKIN' UP, =Peggy On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:28:24 -0000 " " <monica.james@...> writes: Hi Peggy, I think you're right, that we're all suffering from yeast out of control! I've tried to rationalize why my situation was different from the systemic problems that I've heard others describe, but essentially, I think you've hit the nail on the head--yeast! As I've started the candida diet and started to feel a bit better, I've actually noticed that I have itching in my ears, nose, and throat that could be related to it being allergy season, but it could also be that pesky yeast that seems to have gotten into every nook and cranny of my body! Diflucan is an antifungal drug in pill form that's supposed to be able to cure a yeast infection with in one dose...however, I took it off and on for the past few years and a few weeks ago I took it for five days in a row and it doesn't seem to help me much at all anymore. The only thing that seems to be working now is the candida diet and grapefruit seed extract, which I learned on these message boards is a natural antifungal. Anyway, good luck on your research and let us all know what you find! > > and , > From reading your emails it sounds like you are suffering from severe > vaginal itching. > I was trying to separate what you are going through from what I am going > through. > But vaginal itching and the internal itching that I have are caused by > the same culprit....YEAST OUT > OF CONTROL. > > I am not itching so much in the vaginal area. But all of my life ever > since I started having sex > I have been irritated down there. People do pass things amongst > eachother. Especailly after having my first child. I actually was told by > a doctor > it was a yeast infection because there was evidence of white stuff > discharging. Back in the 70's > we used monostat and antibiotics. What is diflucan ??? Is this an > antibiotic? > > I don't have time to do research....I have two full days ahead of me. > MOn. and Tues. are always wild. > But as soon as I have time I will do some research on this and the > Question....can we overdose on suppliments ? > and some colon cleansing questions. What brand of Biotin do ya'll use? > > Take care, > -P > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...> > writes: > Hi , > I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am > going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just humoring > me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much > about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. " > > I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and > have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon > cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal > rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and > supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but that's > the idea. > > I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any > good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I guess > I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me > systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am > not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan. > > It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO > much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I > will be healthier than I have ever been before... > > Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me immense > amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled > relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut. > > Please email me any time. > > > It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the > music, it seems to melt away. > ~ O'Connor > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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