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Last night for instance, I ate mango and I was itching a lot.

Especially between my legs by my inner thigh.

That is where it all started. On 1/6 I went into Kaiser for my regular

check up

which included a pap smear. I told her I was in menopause and I had my

period

for 15 days. The first four days were very very heavy. The nurse decided

to do

an EMB (cervical biopsies) Which came out negative by the way.

The next day I started itching down there. All over in my inner thighs

around my knees,

my thighs and started going to my stomach. It went up under my breast

where it is moist,

to my chest, my under arms (another moist area) up my neck. My feet

started itching.

I was itching inside, not outside. One doctor called it internal itching.

All the doctors I saw

were confused and did not know what was wrong with me because all the

tests were negative

and there was no outward sign of rash, hives or anything, but my scratch

marks and bruises

to show them evidence they were familiar with. Stupid doctors! I cannot

believe their

insensitivity. That when they don't know what is wrong they close the

door in my face.

That is so bad. They are not connected to us and they don't wanna be.

Even if the medical

board does not recognize alternative medicine that is still uncaring and

rude!

Of course my first impression would be to think that the EMB did

something....

But the nurse who by the way was very rude to me, said she has done that

procedure for

20 years, and refused to think that there was ANY possibility that it had

anything to

do with my extreme internal itching all over my body. The more I tried to

make sense

of it....the more she closed up. She didn't want to hear it. She advised

me to go to

internal medicine. And that I did.

AND THAN to allergy .....to dermatology....to another doctor with my

Bluecross outside of Kaiser.

It's been a confusing 4 months.

Right now I am still itching but not as much. I started the candida diet,

but I am not following it completely.

But I have cut out all sugars, no candy at See's, and I minimize my

carbs.

I stopped drinking coffee after 30 years and now drink green tea. Part of

my headaches right now.

But also I think I am detoxing.

I am doing garlic, yeast defense followed by probiotics and I am getting

ready to see a

homeopathic doctor as soon as I check to see if Bluecross will cover it

and I want to do a Colon cleanse.

She is the one that said to me:>>>>

Peggy, internal itching of the type you describe can be due to an

overgrowth

in yeast and candida type molds in the body. They can easily grow in

areas

when the immune system is weak or there is trauma (even surgical trauma).

Steroids only suppress the inflammatory response but do not kill the

pathogens. I am suprised that no one did a stool culture at least to

check

for levels of yeast/pathogenic bacteria and molds in your body. An

antifungal either herbal or prescriptive is very effective followed by

the

proper probiotics. Our clinic can evaluate this for you and the cost

would

be $150.00 for the initial one hour consult and testing plus any cost for

the stool test. It is not good to stay on steroids and there are many

effective ways to treat your condition without having to suppress

symptoms.

If you are interested please contact Jillian for an appointment and told

her

I told you it would be a 1 hour appointment base on our conversation.

Manayan 408-262-6900

Dr. Manayan is the one that put this candida thing into my mind. The

surgical trauma she is talking

about is the EMB.

Take care everyone....and remember to KEEP LOOKIN' UP,

=Peggy

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:28:24 -0000 " " <monica.james@...>

writes:

Hi Peggy,

I think you're right, that we're all suffering from yeast out of control!

I've tried to

rationalize why my situation was different from the systemic problems

that I've heard

others describe, but essentially, I think you've hit the nail on the

head--yeast! As I've

started the candida diet and started to feel a bit better, I've actually

noticed that I have

itching in my ears, nose, and throat that could be related to it being

allergy season, but it

could also be that pesky yeast that seems to have gotten into every nook

and cranny of my

body!

Diflucan is an antifungal drug in pill form that's supposed to be able to

cure a yeast

infection with in one dose...however, I took it off and on for the past

few years and a few

weeks ago I took it for five days in a row and it doesn't seem to help me

much at all

anymore. The only thing that seems to be working now is the candida diet

and grapefruit

seed extract, which I learned on these message boards is a natural

antifungal.

Anyway, good luck on your research and let us all know what you find!

>

> and ,

> From reading your emails it sounds like you are suffering from severe

> vaginal itching.

> I was trying to separate what you are going through from what I am

going

> through.

> But vaginal itching and the internal itching that I have are caused by

> the same culprit....YEAST OUT

> OF CONTROL.

>

> I am not itching so much in the vaginal area. But all of my life ever

> since I started having sex

> I have been irritated down there. People do pass things amongst

> eachother. Especailly after having my first child. I actually was told

by

> a doctor

> it was a yeast infection because there was evidence of white stuff

> discharging. Back in the 70's

> we used monostat and antibiotics. What is diflucan ??? Is this an

> antibiotic?

>

> I don't have time to do research....I have two full days ahead of me.

> MOn. and Tues. are always wild.

> But as soon as I have time I will do some research on this and the

> Question....can we overdose on suppliments ?

> and some colon cleansing questions. What brand of Biotin do ya'll use?

>

> Take care,

> -P

>

>

>

> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...>

> writes:

> Hi ,

> I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am

> going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just

humoring

> me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much

> about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. "

>

> I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and

> have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon

> cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal

> rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and

> supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but

that's

> the idea.

>

> I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any

> good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I

guess

> I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me

> systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am

> not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan.

>

> It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO

> much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I

> will be healthier than I have ever been before...

>

> Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me

immense

> amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled

> relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut.

>

> Please email me any time.

>

>

> It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the

> music, it seems to melt away.

> ~ O'Connor

>

>

>

>

>

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Sorry about your itchiness! By the way, the nurse will never confess

anything for fear of a medial malpractice lawsuit. Maybe it was the lube

they put on the tools they use. (Like KY Jelly - I'm not sure what the

ingredients are but perhaps you are allergic to it?)

I also have to stay away from anything citrus. I can't even use citrus soap!

I take vitamin C tablets but I think the part that bothers me, and maybe

you, it the acid mixed with the natural sugar in fruits. 'Burts Bees " line

of products has both citric and sugar properties in some of their products

and I can't use them or I get an itchy rash between my legs and behind my

knees. I have noticed that taking grapefruit seed extract continuously has

helped me a lot with skin rashes, foliiculitis and body odor. I am also

doing a gentle bowel cleanse but sometimes forget to take the pills.

BTW, I have BlueCrossBlueShield PPO and they have a Naturopath available so

perhaps they are catching on?

Also, it may be beneficial to keep a food diary so you can remember what

single or combinations of foods cause your skin to itch.

Alison, Chicago

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of peggypooh1@...

Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:43 AM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Is there Life after Candida

Last night for instance, I ate mango and I was itching a lot.

Especially between my legs by my inner thigh.

That is where it all started. On 1/6 I went into Kaiser for my regular

check up

which included a pap smear. I told her I was in menopause and I had my

period

for 15 days. The first four days were very very heavy. The nurse decided

to do

an EMB (cervical biopsies) Which came out negative by the way.

The next day I started itching down there. All over in my inner thighs

around my knees,

my thighs and started going to my stomach. It went up under my breast

where it is moist,

to my chest, my under arms (another moist area) up my neck. My feet

started itching.

I was itching inside, not outside. One doctor called it internal itching.

All the doctors I saw

were confused and did not know what was wrong with me because all the

tests were negative

and there was no outward sign of rash, hives or anything, but my scratch

marks and bruises

to show them evidence they were familiar with. Stupid doctors! I cannot

believe their

insensitivity. That when they don't know what is wrong they close the

door in my face.

That is so bad. They are not connected to us and they don't wanna be.

Even if the medical

board does not recognize alternative medicine that is still uncaring and

rude!

Of course my first impression would be to think that the EMB did

something....

But the nurse who by the way was very rude to me, said she has done that

procedure for

20 years, and refused to think that there was ANY possibility that it had

anything to

do with my extreme internal itching all over my body. The more I tried to

make sense

of it....the more she closed up. She didn't want to hear it. She advised

me to go to

internal medicine. And that I did.

AND THAN to allergy .....to dermatology....to another doctor with my

Bluecross outside of Kaiser.

It's been a confusing 4 months.

Right now I am still itching but not as much. I started the candida diet,

but I am not following it completely.

But I have cut out all sugars, no candy at See's, and I minimize my

carbs.

I stopped drinking coffee after 30 years and now drink green tea. Part of

my headaches right now.

But also I think I am detoxing.

I am doing garlic, yeast defense followed by probiotics and I am getting

ready to see a

homeopathic doctor as soon as I check to see if Bluecross will cover it

and I want to do a Colon cleanse.

She is the one that said to me:>>>>

Peggy, internal itching of the type you describe can be due to an

overgrowth

in yeast and candida type molds in the body. They can easily grow in

areas

when the immune system is weak or there is trauma (even surgical trauma).

Steroids only suppress the inflammatory response but do not kill the

pathogens. I am suprised that no one did a stool culture at least to

check

for levels of yeast/pathogenic bacteria and molds in your body. An

antifungal either herbal or prescriptive is very effective followed by

the

proper probiotics. Our clinic can evaluate this for you and the cost

would

be $150.00 for the initial one hour consult and testing plus any cost for

the stool test. It is not good to stay on steroids and there are many

effective ways to treat your condition without having to suppress

symptoms.

If you are interested please contact Jillian for an appointment and told

her

I told you it would be a 1 hour appointment base on our conversation.

Manayan 408-262-6900

Dr. Manayan is the one that put this candida thing into my mind. The

surgical trauma she is talking

about is the EMB.

Take care everyone....and remember to KEEP LOOKIN' UP,

=Peggy

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:28:24 -0000 " " <monica.james@...>

writes:

Hi Peggy,

I think you're right, that we're all suffering from yeast out of control!

I've tried to

rationalize why my situation was different from the systemic problems

that I've heard

others describe, but essentially, I think you've hit the nail on the

head--yeast! As I've

started the candida diet and started to feel a bit better, I've actually

noticed that I have

itching in my ears, nose, and throat that could be related to it being

allergy season, but it

could also be that pesky yeast that seems to have gotten into every nook

and cranny of my

body!

Diflucan is an antifungal drug in pill form that's supposed to be able to

cure a yeast

infection with in one dose...however, I took it off and on for the past

few years and a few

weeks ago I took it for five days in a row and it doesn't seem to help me

much at all

anymore. The only thing that seems to be working now is the candida diet

and grapefruit

seed extract, which I learned on these message boards is a natural

antifungal.

Anyway, good luck on your research and let us all know what you find!

>

> and ,

> From reading your emails it sounds like you are suffering from severe

> vaginal itching.

> I was trying to separate what you are going through from what I am

going

> through.

> But vaginal itching and the internal itching that I have are caused by

> the same culprit....YEAST OUT

> OF CONTROL.

>

> I am not itching so much in the vaginal area. But all of my life ever

> since I started having sex

> I have been irritated down there. People do pass things amongst

> eachother. Especailly after having my first child. I actually was told

by

> a doctor

> it was a yeast infection because there was evidence of white stuff

> discharging. Back in the 70's

> we used monostat and antibiotics. What is diflucan ??? Is this an

> antibiotic?

>

> I don't have time to do research....I have two full days ahead of me.

> MOn. and Tues. are always wild.

> But as soon as I have time I will do some research on this and the

> Question....can we overdose on suppliments ?

> and some colon cleansing questions. What brand of Biotin do ya'll use?

>

> Take care,

> -P

>

>

>

> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...>

> writes:

> Hi ,

> I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am

> going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just

humoring

> me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much

> about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. "

>

> I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and

> have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon

> cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal

> rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and

> supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but

that's

> the idea.

>

> I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any

> good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I

guess

> I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me

> systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am

> not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan.

>

> It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO

> much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I

> will be healthier than I have ever been before...

>

> Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me

immense

> amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled

> relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut.

>

> Please email me any time.

>

>

> It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the

> music, it seems to melt away.

> ~ O'Connor

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Alison,

How does GSE help you ? I want to purchase it but I would like to

know what it does for you in helping to heal ?

I am itching very bad now and need relief :-(

Thanks.

Maggie

Alison <Callesto71@...> wrote:

Sorry about your itchiness! By the way, the nurse will never confess

anything for fear of a medial malpractice lawsuit. Maybe it was the lube

they put on the tools they use. (Like KY Jelly - I'm not sure what the

ingredients are but perhaps you are allergic to it?)

I also have to stay away from anything citrus. I can't even use citrus soap!

I take vitamin C tablets but I think the part that bothers me, and maybe

you, it the acid mixed with the natural sugar in fruits. 'Burts Bees " line

of products has both citric and sugar properties in some of their products

and I can't use them or I get an itchy rash between my legs and behind my

knees. I have noticed that taking grapefruit seed extract continuously has

helped me a lot with skin rashes, foliiculitis and body odor. I am also

doing a gentle bowel cleanse but sometimes forget to take the pills.

BTW, I have BlueCrossBlueShield PPO and they have a Naturopath available so

perhaps they are catching on?

Also, it may be beneficial to keep a food diary so you can remember what

single or combinations of foods cause your skin to itch.

Alison, Chicago

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of peggypooh1@...

Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:43 AM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Is there Life after Candida

Last night for instance, I ate mango and I was itching a lot.

Especially between my legs by my inner thigh.

That is where it all started. On 1/6 I went into Kaiser for my regular

check up

which included a pap smear. I told her I was in menopause and I had my

period

for 15 days. The first four days were very very heavy. The nurse decided

to do

an EMB (cervical biopsies) Which came out negative by the way.

The next day I started itching down there. All over in my inner thighs

around my knees,

my thighs and started going to my stomach. It went up under my breast

where it is moist,

to my chest, my under arms (another moist area) up my neck. My feet

started itching.

I was itching inside, not outside. One doctor called it internal itching.

All the doctors I saw

were confused and did not know what was wrong with me because all the

tests were negative

and there was no outward sign of rash, hives or anything, but my scratch

marks and bruises

to show them evidence they were familiar with. Stupid doctors! I cannot

believe their

insensitivity. That when they don't know what is wrong they close the

door in my face.

That is so bad. They are not connected to us and they don't wanna be.

Even if the medical

board does not recognize alternative medicine that is still uncaring and

rude!

Of course my first impression would be to think that the EMB did

something....

But the nurse who by the way was very rude to me, said she has done that

procedure for

20 years, and refused to think that there was ANY possibility that it had

anything to

do with my extreme internal itching all over my body. The more I tried to

make sense

of it....the more she closed up. She didn't want to hear it. She advised

me to go to

internal medicine. And that I did.

AND THAN to allergy .....to dermatology....to another doctor with my

Bluecross outside of Kaiser.

It's been a confusing 4 months.

Right now I am still itching but not as much. I started the candida diet,

but I am not following it completely.

But I have cut out all sugars, no candy at See's, and I minimize my

carbs.

I stopped drinking coffee after 30 years and now drink green tea. Part of

my headaches right now.

But also I think I am detoxing.

I am doing garlic, yeast defense followed by probiotics and I am getting

ready to see a

homeopathic doctor as soon as I check to see if Bluecross will cover it

and I want to do a Colon cleanse.

She is the one that said to me:>>>>

Peggy, internal itching of the type you describe can be due to an

overgrowth

in yeast and candida type molds in the body. They can easily grow in

areas

when the immune system is weak or there is trauma (even surgical trauma).

Steroids only suppress the inflammatory response but do not kill the

pathogens. I am suprised that no one did a stool culture at least to

check

for levels of yeast/pathogenic bacteria and molds in your body. An

antifungal either herbal or prescriptive is very effective followed by

the

proper probiotics. Our clinic can evaluate this for you and the cost

would

be $150.00 for the initial one hour consult and testing plus any cost for

the stool test. It is not good to stay on steroids and there are many

effective ways to treat your condition without having to suppress

symptoms.

If you are interested please contact Jillian for an appointment and told

her

I told you it would be a 1 hour appointment base on our conversation.

Manayan 408-262-6900

Dr. Manayan is the one that put this candida thing into my mind. The

surgical trauma she is talking

about is the EMB.

Take care everyone....and remember to KEEP LOOKIN' UP,

=Peggy

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:28:24 -0000 " " <monica.james@...>

writes:

Hi Peggy,

I think you're right, that we're all suffering from yeast out of control!

I've tried to

rationalize why my situation was different from the systemic problems

that I've heard

others describe, but essentially, I think you've hit the nail on the

head--yeast! As I've

started the candida diet and started to feel a bit better, I've actually

noticed that I have

itching in my ears, nose, and throat that could be related to it being

allergy season, but it

could also be that pesky yeast that seems to have gotten into every nook

and cranny of my

body!

Diflucan is an antifungal drug in pill form that's supposed to be able to

cure a yeast

infection with in one dose...however, I took it off and on for the past

few years and a few

weeks ago I took it for five days in a row and it doesn't seem to help me

much at all

anymore. The only thing that seems to be working now is the candida diet

and grapefruit

seed extract, which I learned on these message boards is a natural

antifungal.

Anyway, good luck on your research and let us all know what you find!

>

> and ,

> From reading your emails it sounds like you are suffering from severe

> vaginal itching.

> I was trying to separate what you are going through from what I am

going

> through.

> But vaginal itching and the internal itching that I have are caused by

> the same culprit....YEAST OUT

> OF CONTROL.

>

> I am not itching so much in the vaginal area. But all of my life ever

> since I started having sex

> I have been irritated down there. People do pass things amongst

> eachother. Especailly after having my first child. I actually was told

by

> a doctor

> it was a yeast infection because there was evidence of white stuff

> discharging. Back in the 70's

> we used monostat and antibiotics. What is diflucan ??? Is this an

> antibiotic?

>

> I don't have time to do research....I have two full days ahead of me.

> MOn. and Tues. are always wild.

> But as soon as I have time I will do some research on this and the

> Question....can we overdose on suppliments ?

> and some colon cleansing questions. What brand of Biotin do ya'll use?

>

> Take care,

> -P

>

>

>

> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...>

> writes:

> Hi ,

> I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am

> going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just

humoring

> me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much

> about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. "

>

> I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and

> have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon

> cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal

> rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and

> supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but

that's

> the idea.

>

> I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any

> good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I

guess

> I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me

> systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am

> not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan.

>

> It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO

> much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I

> will be healthier than I have ever been before...

>

> Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me

immense

> amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled

> relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut.

>

> Please email me any time.

>

>

> It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the

> music, it seems to melt away.

> ~ O'Connor

>

>

>

>

>

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You know what is really unbelieveable?

I was having my period going on OVER 20 days,

and as soon as I started my garlic and yeast defense and probiotics

it stopped that day and NO spotting. Just completely stopped.

I thought this one would never end.

Now I am going to wash ALL my undies in tea tree oil!!!

Yepeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....................

-P

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Maggie McQuade

<maggs914@...> writes:

Hi Alison,

How does GSE help you ? I want to purchase it but I would like to

know what it does for you in helping to heal ?

I am itching very bad now and need relief :-(

Thanks.

Maggie

Alison <Callesto71@...> wrote:

Sorry about your itchiness! By the way, the nurse will never confess

anything for fear of a medial malpractice lawsuit. Maybe it was the lube

they put on the tools they use. (Like KY Jelly - I'm not sure what the

ingredients are but perhaps you are allergic to it?)

I also have to stay away from anything citrus. I can't even use citrus

soap!

I take vitamin C tablets but I think the part that bothers me, and maybe

you, it the acid mixed with the natural sugar in fruits. 'Burts Bees "

line

of products has both citric and sugar properties in some of their

products

and I can't use them or I get an itchy rash between my legs and behind my

knees. I have noticed that taking grapefruit seed extract continuously

has

helped me a lot with skin rashes, foliiculitis and body odor. I am also

doing a gentle bowel cleanse but sometimes forget to take the pills.

BTW, I have BlueCrossBlueShield PPO and they have a Naturopath available

so

perhaps they are catching on?

Also, it may be beneficial to keep a food diary so you can remember what

single or combinations of foods cause your skin to itch.

Alison, Chicago

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of peggypooh1@...

Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:43 AM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Is there Life after Candida

Last night for instance, I ate mango and I was itching a lot.

Especially between my legs by my inner thigh.

That is where it all started. On 1/6 I went into Kaiser for my regular

check up

which included a pap smear. I told her I was in menopause and I had my

period

for 15 days. The first four days were very very heavy. The nurse decided

to do

an EMB (cervical biopsies) Which came out negative by the way.

The next day I started itching down there. All over in my inner thighs

around my knees,

my thighs and started going to my stomach. It went up under my breast

where it is moist,

to my chest, my under arms (another moist area) up my neck. My feet

started itching.

I was itching inside, not outside. One doctor called it internal itching.

All the doctors I saw

were confused and did not know what was wrong with me because all the

tests were negative

and there was no outward sign of rash, hives or anything, but my scratch

marks and bruises

to show them evidence they were familiar with. Stupid doctors! I cannot

believe their

insensitivity. That when they don't know what is wrong they close the

door in my face.

That is so bad. They are not connected to us and they don't wanna be.

Even if the medical

board does not recognize alternative medicine that is still uncaring and

rude!

Of course my first impression would be to think that the EMB did

something....

But the nurse who by the way was very rude to me, said she has done that

procedure for

20 years, and refused to think that there was ANY possibility that it had

anything to

do with my extreme internal itching all over my body. The more I tried to

make sense

of it....the more she closed up. She didn't want to hear it. She advised

me to go to

internal medicine. And that I did.

AND THAN to allergy .....to dermatology....to another doctor with my

Bluecross outside of Kaiser.

It's been a confusing 4 months.

Right now I am still itching but not as much. I started the candida diet,

but I am not following it completely.

But I have cut out all sugars, no candy at See's, and I minimize my

carbs.

I stopped drinking coffee after 30 years and now drink green tea. Part of

my headaches right now.

But also I think I am detoxing.

I am doing garlic, yeast defense followed by probiotics and I am getting

ready to see a

homeopathic doctor as soon as I check to see if Bluecross will cover it

and I want to do a Colon cleanse.

She is the one that said to me:>>>>

Peggy, internal itching of the type you describe can be due to an

overgrowth

in yeast and candida type molds in the body. They can easily grow in

areas

when the immune system is weak or there is trauma (even surgical trauma).

Steroids only suppress the inflammatory response but do not kill the

pathogens. I am suprised that no one did a stool culture at least to

check

for levels of yeast/pathogenic bacteria and molds in your body. An

antifungal either herbal or prescriptive is very effective followed by

the

proper probiotics. Our clinic can evaluate this for you and the cost

would

be $150.00 for the initial one hour consult and testing plus any cost for

the stool test. It is not good to stay on steroids and there are many

effective ways to treat your condition without having to suppress

symptoms.

If you are interested please contact Jillian for an appointment and told

her

I told you it would be a 1 hour appointment base on our conversation.

Manayan 408-262-6900

Dr. Manayan is the one that put this candida thing into my mind. The

surgical trauma she is talking

about is the EMB.

Take care everyone....and remember to KEEP LOOKIN' UP,

=Peggy

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:28:24 -0000 " " <monica.james@...>

writes:

Hi Peggy,

I think you're right, that we're all suffering from yeast out of control!

I've tried to

rationalize why my situation was different from the systemic problems

that I've heard

others describe, but essentially, I think you've hit the nail on the

head--yeast! As I've

started the candida diet and started to feel a bit better, I've actually

noticed that I have

itching in my ears, nose, and throat that could be related to it being

allergy season, but it

could also be that pesky yeast that seems to have gotten into every nook

and cranny of my

body!

Diflucan is an antifungal drug in pill form that's supposed to be able to

cure a yeast

infection with in one dose...however, I took it off and on for the past

few years and a few

weeks ago I took it for five days in a row and it doesn't seem to help me

much at all

anymore. The only thing that seems to be working now is the candida diet

and grapefruit

seed extract, which I learned on these message boards is a natural

antifungal.

Anyway, good luck on your research and let us all know what you find!

>

> and ,

> From reading your emails it sounds like you are suffering from severe

> vaginal itching.

> I was trying to separate what you are going through from what I am

going

> through.

> But vaginal itching and the internal itching that I have are caused by

> the same culprit....YEAST OUT

> OF CONTROL.

>

> I am not itching so much in the vaginal area. But all of my life ever

> since I started having sex

> I have been irritated down there. People do pass things amongst

> eachother. Especailly after having my first child. I actually was told

by

> a doctor

> it was a yeast infection because there was evidence of white stuff

> discharging. Back in the 70's

> we used monostat and antibiotics. What is diflucan ??? Is this an

> antibiotic?

>

> I don't have time to do research....I have two full days ahead of me.

> MOn. and Tues. are always wild.

> But as soon as I have time I will do some research on this and the

> Question....can we overdose on suppliments ?

> and some colon cleansing questions. What brand of Biotin do ya'll use?

>

> Take care,

> -P

>

>

>

> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...>

> writes:

> Hi ,

> I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am

> going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just

humoring

> me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much

> about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. "

>

> I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and

> have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon

> cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal

> rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and

> supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but

that's

> the idea.

>

> I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any

> good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I

guess

> I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me

> systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am

> not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan.

>

> It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO

> much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I

> will be healthier than I have ever been before...

>

> Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me

immense

> amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled

> relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut.

>

> Please email me any time.

>

>

> It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the

> music, it seems to melt away.

> ~ O'Connor

>

>

>

>

>

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GSE does help me but you have to start out with a small dosage and drinks

LOTS of water. The GSE helpes clean the toxins out of your system. I say

drink LOTS of water because it will clean out any fermaented (old) food

hanging out in your intestines and you stools will come out very acidic. You

DO NOT want to experience acidic stools! The more water you drink the softer

and less acidy your stool will be.

It has helped my rashes not be so itchy and actually has helped my acne

problem. My skin is very sensitive and I cannot use salicylic acid products.

Make sure you read ALL the ingredients of every kind of lotion you buy

because they are changing formulas. Some lotions have Salicylic Acid as well

as other acids in them. All that stuff does is make my skin blotchy.

GSE works well but I am also on a No yeast/wheat/gluten diet and am trying

to keep my sugar intake low.

As I said , start out with a small dosage otherwise you might get that

“Yeast die off” which feels like a hangover times 100.

Good Luck!

Alison

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Maggie McQuade

Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:11 PM

candidiasis

Subject: RE: Is there Life after Candida

Hi Alison,

How does GSE help you ? I want to purchase it but I would like to

know what it does for you in helping to heal ?

I am itching very bad now and need relief :-(

Thanks.

Maggie

Alison <Callesto71@...> wrote:

Sorry about your itchiness! By the way, the nurse will never confess

anything for fear of a medial malpractice lawsuit. Maybe it was the lube

they put on the tools they use. (Like KY Jelly - I'm not sure what the

ingredients are but perhaps you are allergic to it?)

I also have to stay away from anything citrus. I can't even use citrus soap!

I take vitamin C tablets but I think the part that bothers me, and maybe

you, it the acid mixed with the natural sugar in fruits. 'Burts Bees " line

of products has both citric and sugar properties in some of their products

and I can't use them or I get an itchy rash between my legs and behind my

knees. I have noticed that taking grapefruit seed extract continuously has

helped me a lot with skin rashes, foliiculitis and body odor. I am also

doing a gentle bowel cleanse but sometimes forget to take the pills.

BTW, I have BlueCrossBlueShield PPO and they have a Naturopath available so

perhaps they are catching on?

Also, it may be beneficial to keep a food diary so you can remember what

single or combinations of foods cause your skin to itch.

Alison, Chicago

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of peggypooh1@...

Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:43 AM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Is there Life after Candida

Last night for instance, I ate mango and I was itching a lot.

Especially between my legs by my inner thigh.

That is where it all started. On 1/6 I went into Kaiser for my regular

check up

which included a pap smear. I told her I was in menopause and I had my

period

for 15 days. The first four days were very very heavy. The nurse decided

to do

an EMB (cervical biopsies) Which came out negative by the way.

The next day I started itching down there. All over in my inner thighs

around my knees,

my thighs and started going to my stomach. It went up under my breast

where it is moist,

to my chest, my under arms (another moist area) up my neck. My feet

started itching.

I was itching inside, not outside. One doctor called it internal itching.

All the doctors I saw

were confused and did not know what was wrong with me because all the

tests were negative

and there was no outward sign of rash, hives or anything, but my scratch

marks and bruises

to show them evidence they were familiar with. Stupid doctors! I cannot

believe their

insensitivity. That when they don't know what is wrong they close the

door in my face.

That is so bad. They are not connected to us and they don't wanna be.

Even if the medical

board does not recognize alternative medicine that is still uncaring and

rude!

Of course my first impression would be to think that the EMB did

something....

But the nurse who by the way was very rude to me, said she has done that

procedure for

20 years, and refused to think that there was ANY possibility that it had

anything to

do with my extreme internal itching all over my body. The more I tried to

make sense

of it....the more she closed up. She didn't want to hear it. She advised

me to go to

internal medicine. And that I did.

AND THAN to allergy .....to dermatology....to another doctor with my

Bluecross outside of Kaiser.

It's been a confusing 4 months.

Right now I am still itching but not as much. I started the candida diet,

but I am not following it completely.

But I have cut out all sugars, no candy at See's, and I minimize my

carbs.

I stopped drinking coffee after 30 years and now drink green tea. Part of

my headaches right now.

But also I think I am detoxing.

I am doing garlic, yeast defense followed by probiotics and I am getting

ready to see a

homeopathic doctor as soon as I check to see if Bluecross will cover it

and I want to do a Colon cleanse.

She is the one that said to me:>>>>

Peggy, internal itching of the type you describe can be due to an

overgrowth

in yeast and candida type molds in the body. They can easily grow in

areas

when the immune system is weak or there is trauma (even surgical trauma).

Steroids only suppress the inflammatory response but do not kill the

pathogens. I am suprised that no one did a stool culture at least to

check

for levels of yeast/pathogenic bacteria and molds in your body. An

antifungal either herbal or prescriptive is very effective followed by

the

proper probiotics. Our clinic can evaluate this for you and the cost

would

be $150.00 for the initial one hour consult and testing plus any cost for

the stool test. It is not good to stay on steroids and there are many

effective ways to treat your condition without having to suppress

symptoms.

If you are interested please contact Jillian for an appointment and told

her

I told you it would be a 1 hour appointment base on our conversation.

Manayan 408-262-6900

Dr. Manayan is the one that put this candida thing into my mind. The

surgical trauma she is talking

about is the EMB.

Take care everyone....and remember to KEEP LOOKIN' UP,

=Peggy

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:28:24 -0000 " " <monica.james@...>

writes:

Hi Peggy,

I think you're right, that we're all suffering from yeast out of control!

I've tried to

rationalize why my situation was different from the systemic problems

that I've heard

others describe, but essentially, I think you've hit the nail on the

head--yeast! As I've

started the candida diet and started to feel a bit better, I've actually

noticed that I have

itching in my ears, nose, and throat that could be related to it being

allergy season, but it

could also be that pesky yeast that seems to have gotten into every nook

and cranny of my

body!

Diflucan is an antifungal drug in pill form that's supposed to be able to

cure a yeast

infection with in one dose...however, I took it off and on for the past

few years and a few

weeks ago I took it for five days in a row and it doesn't seem to help me

much at all

anymore. The only thing that seems to be working now is the candida diet

and grapefruit

seed extract, which I learned on these message boards is a natural

antifungal.

Anyway, good luck on your research and let us all know what you find!

>

> and ,

> From reading your emails it sounds like you are suffering from severe

> vaginal itching.

> I was trying to separate what you are going through from what I am

going

> through.

> But vaginal itching and the internal itching that I have are caused by

> the same culprit....YEAST OUT

> OF CONTROL.

>

> I am not itching so much in the vaginal area. But all of my life ever

> since I started having sex

> I have been irritated down there. People do pass things amongst

> eachother. Especailly after having my first child. I actually was told

by

> a doctor

> it was a yeast infection because there was evidence of white stuff

> discharging. Back in the 70's

> we used monostat and antibiotics. What is diflucan ??? Is this an

> antibiotic?

>

> I don't have time to do research....I have two full days ahead of me.

> MOn. and Tues. are always wild.

> But as soon as I have time I will do some research on this and the

> Question....can we overdose on suppliments ?

> and some colon cleansing questions. What brand of Biotin do ya'll use?

>

> Take care,

> -P

>

>

>

> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...>

> writes:

> Hi ,

> I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am

> going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just

humoring

> me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much

> about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. "

>

> I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and

> have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon

> cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal

> rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and

> supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but

that's

> the idea.

>

> I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any

> good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I

guess

> I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me

> systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am

> not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan.

>

> It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO

> much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I

> will be healthier than I have ever been before...

>

> Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me

immense

> amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled

> relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut.

>

> Please email me any time.

>

>

> It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the

> music, it seems to melt away.

> ~ O'Connor

>

>

>

>

>

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Also, the way it helps you heal is it releases toxins out of your system.

GSE is a natural anti-biotic. You have to get the build up of toxins out of

your system or else your system gets toxic overload and cannot protect

itself. The reaction seems to be skin rashes, eczema, psoriasis, etc...

Alison, Chicago

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Maggie McQuade

Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:11 PM

candidiasis

Subject: RE: Is there Life after Candida

Hi Alison,

How does GSE help you ? I want to purchase it but I would like to

know what it does for you in helping to heal ?

I am itching very bad now and need relief :-(

Thanks.

Maggie

Alison <Callesto71@...> wrote:

Sorry about your itchiness! By the way, the nurse will never confess

anything for fear of a medial malpractice lawsuit. Maybe it was the lube

they put on the tools they use. (Like KY Jelly - I'm not sure what the

ingredients are but perhaps you are allergic to it?)

I also have to stay away from anything citrus. I can't even use citrus soap!

I take vitamin C tablets but I think the part that bothers me, and maybe

you, it the acid mixed with the natural sugar in fruits. 'Burts Bees " line

of products has both citric and sugar properties in some of their products

and I can't use them or I get an itchy rash between my legs and behind my

knees. I have noticed that taking grapefruit seed extract continuously has

helped me a lot with skin rashes, foliiculitis and body odor. I am also

doing a gentle bowel cleanse but sometimes forget to take the pills.

BTW, I have BlueCrossBlueShield PPO and they have a Naturopath available so

perhaps they are catching on?

Also, it may be beneficial to keep a food diary so you can remember what

single or combinations of foods cause your skin to itch.

Alison, Chicago

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of peggypooh1@...

Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:43 AM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Is there Life after Candida

Last night for instance, I ate mango and I was itching a lot.

Especially between my legs by my inner thigh.

That is where it all started. On 1/6 I went into Kaiser for my regular

check up

which included a pap smear. I told her I was in menopause and I had my

period

for 15 days. The first four days were very very heavy. The nurse decided

to do

an EMB (cervical biopsies) Which came out negative by the way.

The next day I started itching down there. All over in my inner thighs

around my knees,

my thighs and started going to my stomach. It went up under my breast

where it is moist,

to my chest, my under arms (another moist area) up my neck. My feet

started itching.

I was itching inside, not outside. One doctor called it internal itching.

All the doctors I saw

were confused and did not know what was wrong with me because all the

tests were negative

and there was no outward sign of rash, hives or anything, but my scratch

marks and bruises

to show them evidence they were familiar with. Stupid doctors! I cannot

believe their

insensitivity. That when they don't know what is wrong they close the

door in my face.

That is so bad. They are not connected to us and they don't wanna be.

Even if the medical

board does not recognize alternative medicine that is still uncaring and

rude!

Of course my first impression would be to think that the EMB did

something....

But the nurse who by the way was very rude to me, said she has done that

procedure for

20 years, and refused to think that there was ANY possibility that it had

anything to

do with my extreme internal itching all over my body. The more I tried to

make sense

of it....the more she closed up. She didn't want to hear it. She advised

me to go to

internal medicine. And that I did.

AND THAN to allergy .....to dermatology....to another doctor with my

Bluecross outside of Kaiser.

It's been a confusing 4 months.

Right now I am still itching but not as much. I started the candida diet,

but I am not following it completely.

But I have cut out all sugars, no candy at See's, and I minimize my

carbs.

I stopped drinking coffee after 30 years and now drink green tea. Part of

my headaches right now.

But also I think I am detoxing.

I am doing garlic, yeast defense followed by probiotics and I am getting

ready to see a

homeopathic doctor as soon as I check to see if Bluecross will cover it

and I want to do a Colon cleanse.

She is the one that said to me:>>>>

Peggy, internal itching of the type you describe can be due to an

overgrowth

in yeast and candida type molds in the body. They can easily grow in

areas

when the immune system is weak or there is trauma (even surgical trauma).

Steroids only suppress the inflammatory response but do not kill the

pathogens. I am suprised that no one did a stool culture at least to

check

for levels of yeast/pathogenic bacteria and molds in your body. An

antifungal either herbal or prescriptive is very effective followed by

the

proper probiotics. Our clinic can evaluate this for you and the cost

would

be $150.00 for the initial one hour consult and testing plus any cost for

the stool test. It is not good to stay on steroids and there are many

effective ways to treat your condition without having to suppress

symptoms.

If you are interested please contact Jillian for an appointment and told

her

I told you it would be a 1 hour appointment base on our conversation.

Manayan 408-262-6900

Dr. Manayan is the one that put this candida thing into my mind. The

surgical trauma she is talking

about is the EMB.

Take care everyone....and remember to KEEP LOOKIN' UP,

=Peggy

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:28:24 -0000 " " <monica.james@...>

writes:

Hi Peggy,

I think you're right, that we're all suffering from yeast out of control!

I've tried to

rationalize why my situation was different from the systemic problems

that I've heard

others describe, but essentially, I think you've hit the nail on the

head--yeast! As I've

started the candida diet and started to feel a bit better, I've actually

noticed that I have

itching in my ears, nose, and throat that could be related to it being

allergy season, but it

could also be that pesky yeast that seems to have gotten into every nook

and cranny of my

body!

Diflucan is an antifungal drug in pill form that's supposed to be able to

cure a yeast

infection with in one dose...however, I took it off and on for the past

few years and a few

weeks ago I took it for five days in a row and it doesn't seem to help me

much at all

anymore. The only thing that seems to be working now is the candida diet

and grapefruit

seed extract, which I learned on these message boards is a natural

antifungal.

Anyway, good luck on your research and let us all know what you find!

>

> and ,

> From reading your emails it sounds like you are suffering from severe

> vaginal itching.

> I was trying to separate what you are going through from what I am

going

> through.

> But vaginal itching and the internal itching that I have are caused by

> the same culprit....YEAST OUT

> OF CONTROL.

>

> I am not itching so much in the vaginal area. But all of my life ever

> since I started having sex

> I have been irritated down there. People do pass things amongst

> eachother. Especailly after having my first child. I actually was told

by

> a doctor

> it was a yeast infection because there was evidence of white stuff

> discharging. Back in the 70's

> we used monostat and antibiotics. What is diflucan ??? Is this an

> antibiotic?

>

> I don't have time to do research....I have two full days ahead of me.

> MOn. and Tues. are always wild.

> But as soon as I have time I will do some research on this and the

> Question....can we overdose on suppliments ?

> and some colon cleansing questions. What brand of Biotin do ya'll use?

>

> Take care,

> -P

>

>

>

> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...>

> writes:

> Hi ,

> I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am

> going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just

humoring

> me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much

> about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. "

>

> I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and

> have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon

> cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal

> rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and

> supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but

that's

> the idea.

>

> I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any

> good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I

guess

> I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me

> systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am

> not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan.

>

> It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO

> much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I

> will be healthier than I have ever been before...

>

> Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me

immense

> amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled

> relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut.

>

> Please email me any time.

>

>

> It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the

> music, it seems to melt away.

> ~ O'Connor

>

>

>

>

>

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I was hoping there was a way to get the yeast out of the underwear, other than

throwing them away and getting new ones! In honor of this list, I am at work

today without any underwear on! :)

But seriously, would washing them in hot water and tea tree oil work??

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The Sarna I have been using has Stearic acid...

is that bad?

-P

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:06:28 -0500 " Alison " <Callesto71@...>

writes:

GSE does help me but you have to start out with a small dosage and drinks

LOTS of water. The GSE helpes clean the toxins out of your system. I say

drink LOTS of water because it will clean out any fermaented (old) food

hanging out in your intestines and you stools will come out very acidic.

You

DO NOT want to experience acidic stools! The more water you drink the

softer

and less acidy your stool will be.

It has helped my rashes not be so itchy and actually has helped my acne

problem. My skin is very sensitive and I cannot use salicylic acid

products.

Make sure you read ALL the ingredients of every kind of lotion you buy

because they are changing formulas. Some lotions have Salicylic Acid as

well

as other acids in them. All that stuff does is make my skin blotchy.

GSE works well but I am also on a No yeast/wheat/gluten diet and am

trying

to keep my sugar intake low.

As I said , start out with a small dosage otherwise you might get that

“Yeast die off” which feels like a hangover times 100.

Good Luck!

Alison

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Maggie McQuade

Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:11 PM

candidiasis

Subject: RE: Is there Life after Candida

Hi Alison,

How does GSE help you ? I want to purchase it but I would like to

know what it does for you in helping to heal ?

I am itching very bad now and need relief :-(

Thanks.

Maggie

Alison <Callesto71@...> wrote:

Sorry about your itchiness! By the way, the nurse will never confess

anything for fear of a medial malpractice lawsuit. Maybe it was the lube

they put on the tools they use. (Like KY Jelly - I'm not sure what the

ingredients are but perhaps you are allergic to it?)

I also have to stay away from anything citrus. I can't even use citrus

soap!

I take vitamin C tablets but I think the part that bothers me, and maybe

you, it the acid mixed with the natural sugar in fruits. 'Burts Bees "

line

of products has both citric and sugar properties in some of their

products

and I can't use them or I get an itchy rash between my legs and behind my

knees. I have noticed that taking grapefruit seed extract continuously

has

helped me a lot with skin rashes, foliiculitis and body odor. I am also

doing a gentle bowel cleanse but sometimes forget to take the pills.

BTW, I have BlueCrossBlueShield PPO and they have a Naturopath available

so

perhaps they are catching on?

Also, it may be beneficial to keep a food diary so you can remember what

single or combinations of foods cause your skin to itch.

Alison, Chicago

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of peggypooh1@...

Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:43 AM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Is there Life after Candida

Last night for instance, I ate mango and I was itching a lot.

Especially between my legs by my inner thigh.

That is where it all started. On 1/6 I went into Kaiser for my regular

check up

which included a pap smear. I told her I was in menopause and I had my

period

for 15 days. The first four days were very very heavy. The nurse decided

to do

an EMB (cervical biopsies) Which came out negative by the way.

The next day I started itching down there. All over in my inner thighs

around my knees,

my thighs and started going to my stomach. It went up under my breast

where it is moist,

to my chest, my under arms (another moist area) up my neck. My feet

started itching.

I was itching inside, not outside. One doctor called it internal itching.

All the doctors I saw

were confused and did not know what was wrong with me because all the

tests were negative

and there was no outward sign of rash, hives or anything, but my scratch

marks and bruises

to show them evidence they were familiar with. Stupid doctors! I cannot

believe their

insensitivity. That when they don't know what is wrong they close the

door in my face.

That is so bad. They are not connected to us and they don't wanna be.

Even if the medical

board does not recognize alternative medicine that is still uncaring and

rude!

Of course my first impression would be to think that the EMB did

something....

But the nurse who by the way was very rude to me, said she has done that

procedure for

20 years, and refused to think that there was ANY possibility that it had

anything to

do with my extreme internal itching all over my body. The more I tried to

make sense

of it....the more she closed up. She didn't want to hear it. She advised

me to go to

internal medicine. And that I did.

AND THAN to allergy .....to dermatology....to another doctor with my

Bluecross outside of Kaiser.

It's been a confusing 4 months.

Right now I am still itching but not as much. I started the candida diet,

but I am not following it completely.

But I have cut out all sugars, no candy at See's, and I minimize my

carbs.

I stopped drinking coffee after 30 years and now drink green tea. Part of

my headaches right now.

But also I think I am detoxing.

I am doing garlic, yeast defense followed by probiotics and I am getting

ready to see a

homeopathic doctor as soon as I check to see if Bluecross will cover it

and I want to do a Colon cleanse.

She is the one that said to me:>>>>

Peggy, internal itching of the type you describe can be due to an

overgrowth

in yeast and candida type molds in the body. They can easily grow in

areas

when the immune system is weak or there is trauma (even surgical trauma).

Steroids only suppress the inflammatory response but do not kill the

pathogens. I am suprised that no one did a stool culture at least to

check

for levels of yeast/pathogenic bacteria and molds in your body. An

antifungal either herbal or prescriptive is very effective followed by

the

proper probiotics. Our clinic can evaluate this for you and the cost

would

be $150.00 for the initial one hour consult and testing plus any cost for

the stool test. It is not good to stay on steroids and there are many

effective ways to treat your condition without having to suppress

symptoms.

If you are interested please contact Jillian for an appointment and told

her

I told you it would be a 1 hour appointment base on our conversation.

Manayan 408-262-6900

Dr. Manayan is the one that put this candida thing into my mind. The

surgical trauma she is talking

about is the EMB.

Take care everyone....and remember to KEEP LOOKIN' UP,

=Peggy

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:28:24 -0000 " " <monica.james@...>

writes:

Hi Peggy,

I think you're right, that we're all suffering from yeast out of control!

I've tried to

rationalize why my situation was different from the systemic problems

that I've heard

others describe, but essentially, I think you've hit the nail on the

head--yeast! As I've

started the candida diet and started to feel a bit better, I've actually

noticed that I have

itching in my ears, nose, and throat that could be related to it being

allergy season, but it

could also be that pesky yeast that seems to have gotten into every nook

and cranny of my

body!

Diflucan is an antifungal drug in pill form that's supposed to be able to

cure a yeast

infection with in one dose...however, I took it off and on for the past

few years and a few

weeks ago I took it for five days in a row and it doesn't seem to help me

much at all

anymore. The only thing that seems to be working now is the candida diet

and grapefruit

seed extract, which I learned on these message boards is a natural

antifungal.

Anyway, good luck on your research and let us all know what you find!

>

> and ,

> From reading your emails it sounds like you are suffering from severe

> vaginal itching.

> I was trying to separate what you are going through from what I am

going

> through.

> But vaginal itching and the internal itching that I have are caused by

> the same culprit....YEAST OUT

> OF CONTROL.

>

> I am not itching so much in the vaginal area. But all of my life ever

> since I started having sex

> I have been irritated down there. People do pass things amongst

> eachother. Especailly after having my first child. I actually was told

by

> a doctor

> it was a yeast infection because there was evidence of white stuff

> discharging. Back in the 70's

> we used monostat and antibiotics. What is diflucan ??? Is this an

> antibiotic?

>

> I don't have time to do research....I have two full days ahead of me.

> MOn. and Tues. are always wild.

> But as soon as I have time I will do some research on this and the

> Question....can we overdose on suppliments ?

> and some colon cleansing questions. What brand of Biotin do ya'll use?

>

> Take care,

> -P

>

>

>

> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...>

> writes:

> Hi ,

> I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am

> going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just

humoring

> me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much

> about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. "

>

> I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and

> have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon

> cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal

> rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and

> supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but

that's

> the idea.

>

> I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any

> good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I

guess

> I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me

> systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am

> not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan.

>

> It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO

> much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I

> will be healthier than I have ever been before...

>

> Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me

immense

> amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled

> relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut.

>

> Please email me any time.

>

>

> It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the

> music, it seems to melt away.

> ~ O'Connor

>

>

>

>

>

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WHAT IS GSE CAN U RIE OUT THE FILL NAME AND WHERE CAN I GET IT.

THANK U

LINDA

Alison <Callesto71@...> wrote: GSE does help me but you have to start

out with a small dosage and drinks

LOTS of water. The GSE helpes clean the toxins out of your system. I say

drink LOTS of water because it will clean out any fermaented (old) food

hanging out in your intestines and you stools will come out very acidic. You

DO NOT want to experience acidic stools! The more water you drink the softer

and less acidy your stool will be.

It has helped my rashes not be so itchy and actually has helped my acne

problem. My skin is very sensitive and I cannot use salicylic acid products.

Make sure you read ALL the ingredients of every kind of lotion you buy

because they are changing formulas. Some lotions have Salicylic Acid as well

as other acids in them. All that stuff does is make my skin blotchy.

GSE works well but I am also on a No yeast/wheat/gluten diet and am trying

to keep my sugar intake low.

As I said , start out with a small dosage otherwise you might get that

�Yeast die off� which feels like a hangover times 100.

Good Luck!

Alison

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Maggie McQuade

Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:11 PM

candidiasis

Subject: RE: Is there Life after Candida

Hi Alison,

How does GSE help you ? I want to purchase it but I would like to

know what it does for you in helping to heal ?

I am itching very bad now and need relief :-(

Thanks.

Maggie

Alison <Callesto71@...> wrote:

Sorry about your itchiness! By the way, the nurse will never confess

anything for fear of a medial malpractice lawsuit. Maybe it was the lube

they put on the tools they use. (Like KY Jelly - I'm not sure what the

ingredients are but perhaps you are allergic to it?)

I also have to stay away from anything citrus. I can't even use citrus soap!

I take vitamin C tablets but I think the part that bothers me, and maybe

you, it the acid mixed with the natural sugar in fruits. 'Burts Bees " line

of products has both citric and sugar properties in some of their products

and I can't use them or I get an itchy rash between my legs and behind my

knees. I have noticed that taking grapefruit seed extract continuously has

helped me a lot with skin rashes, foliiculitis and body odor. I am also

doing a gentle bowel cleanse but sometimes forget to take the pills.

BTW, I have BlueCrossBlueShield PPO and they have a Naturopath available so

perhaps they are catching on?

Also, it may be beneficial to keep a food diary so you can remember what

single or combinations of foods cause your skin to itch.

Alison, Chicago

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of peggypooh1@...

Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:43 AM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Is there Life after Candida

Last night for instance, I ate mango and I was itching a lot.

Especially between my legs by my inner thigh.

That is where it all started. On 1/6 I went into Kaiser for my regular

check up

which included a pap smear. I told her I was in menopause and I had my

period

for 15 days. The first four days were very very heavy. The nurse decided

to do

an EMB (cervical biopsies) Which came out negative by the way.

The next day I started itching down there. All over in my inner thighs

around my knees,

my thighs and started going to my stomach. It went up under my breast

where it is moist,

to my chest, my under arms (another moist area) up my neck. My feet

started itching.

I was itching inside, not outside. One doctor called it internal itching.

All the doctors I saw

were confused and did not know what was wrong with me because all the

tests were negative

and there was no outward sign of rash, hives or anything, but my scratch

marks and bruises

to show them evidence they were familiar with. Stupid doctors! I cannot

believe their

insensitivity. That when they don't know what is wrong they close the

door in my face.

That is so bad. They are not connected to us and they don't wanna be.

Even if the medical

board does not recognize alternative medicine that is still uncaring and

rude!

Of course my first impression would be to think that the EMB did

something....

But the nurse who by the way was very rude to me, said she has done that

procedure for

20 years, and refused to think that there was ANY possibility that it had

anything to

do with my extreme internal itching all over my body. The more I tried to

make sense

of it....the more she closed up. She didn't want to hear it. She advised

me to go to

internal medicine. And that I did.

AND THAN to allergy .....to dermatology....to another doctor with my

Bluecross outside of Kaiser.

It's been a confusing 4 months.

Right now I am still itching but not as much. I started the candida diet,

but I am not following it completely.

But I have cut out all sugars, no candy at See's, and I minimize my

carbs.

I stopped drinking coffee after 30 years and now drink green tea. Part of

my headaches right now.

But also I think I am detoxing.

I am doing garlic, yeast defense followed by probiotics and I am getting

ready to see a

homeopathic doctor as soon as I check to see if Bluecross will cover it

and I want to do a Colon cleanse.

She is the one that said to me:>>>>

Peggy, internal itching of the type you describe can be due to an

overgrowth

in yeast and candida type molds in the body. They can easily grow in

areas

when the immune system is weak or there is trauma (even surgical trauma).

Steroids only suppress the inflammatory response but do not kill the

pathogens. I am suprised that no one did a stool culture at least to

check

for levels of yeast/pathogenic bacteria and molds in your body. An

antifungal either herbal or prescriptive is very effective followed by

the

proper probiotics. Our clinic can evaluate this for you and the cost

would

be $150.00 for the initial one hour consult and testing plus any cost for

the stool test. It is not good to stay on steroids and there are many

effective ways to treat your condition without having to suppress

symptoms.

If you are interested please contact Jillian for an appointment and told

her

I told you it would be a 1 hour appointment base on our conversation.

Manayan 408-262-6900

Dr. Manayan is the one that put this candida thing into my mind. The

surgical trauma she is talking

about is the EMB.

Take care everyone....and remember to KEEP LOOKIN' UP,

=Peggy

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:28:24 -0000 " " <monica.james@...>

writes:

Hi Peggy,

I think you're right, that we're all suffering from yeast out of control!

I've tried to

rationalize why my situation was different from the systemic problems

that I've heard

others describe, but essentially, I think you've hit the nail on the

head--yeast! As I've

started the candida diet and started to feel a bit better, I've actually

noticed that I have

itching in my ears, nose, and throat that could be related to it being

allergy season, but it

could also be that pesky yeast that seems to have gotten into every nook

and cranny of my

body!

Diflucan is an antifungal drug in pill form that's supposed to be able to

cure a yeast

infection with in one dose...however, I took it off and on for the past

few years and a few

weeks ago I took it for five days in a row and it doesn't seem to help me

much at all

anymore. The only thing that seems to be working now is the candida diet

and grapefruit

seed extract, which I learned on these message boards is a natural

antifungal.

Anyway, good luck on your research and let us all know what you find!

>

> and ,

> From reading your emails it sounds like you are suffering from severe

> vaginal itching.

> I was trying to separate what you are going through from what I am

going

> through.

> But vaginal itching and the internal itching that I have are caused by

> the same culprit....YEAST OUT

> OF CONTROL.

>

> I am not itching so much in the vaginal area. But all of my life ever

> since I started having sex

> I have been irritated down there. People do pass things amongst

> eachother. Especailly after having my first child. I actually was told

by

> a doctor

> it was a yeast infection because there was evidence of white stuff

> discharging. Back in the 70's

> we used monostat and antibiotics. What is diflucan ??? Is this an

> antibiotic?

>

> I don't have time to do research....I have two full days ahead of me.

> MOn. and Tues. are always wild.

> But as soon as I have time I will do some research on this and the

> Question....can we overdose on suppliments ?

> and some colon cleansing questions. What brand of Biotin do ya'll use?

>

> Take care,

> -P

>

>

>

> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...>

> writes:

> Hi ,

> I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am

> going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just

humoring

> me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much

> about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. "

>

> I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and

> have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon

> cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal

> rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and

> supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but

that's

> the idea.

>

> I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any

> good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I

guess

> I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me

> systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am

> not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan.

>

> It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO

> much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I

> will be healthier than I have ever been before...

>

> Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me

immense

> amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled

> relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut.

>

> Please email me any time.

>

>

> It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the

> music, it seems to melt away.

> ~ O'Connor

>

>

>

>

>

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, I was planning on following the instructions from the bottle on

how much to take

of GSE. I drink lots of water anyways. Thanks for the insight.

-P

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:21:37 -0700 (PDT) linda riley

<spice_1718@...> writes:

WHAT IS GSE CAN U RIE OUT THE FILL NAME AND WHERE CAN I GET IT.

THANK U

LINDA

Alison <Callesto71@...> wrote: GSE does help me but you have

to start out with a small dosage and drinks

LOTS of water. The GSE helpes clean the toxins out of your system. I say

drink LOTS of water because it will clean out any fermaented (old) food

hanging out in your intestines and you stools will come out very acidic.

You

DO NOT want to experience acidic stools! The more water you drink the

softer

and less acidy your stool will be.

It has helped my rashes not be so itchy and actually has helped my acne

problem. My skin is very sensitive and I cannot use salicylic acid

products.

Make sure you read ALL the ingredients of every kind of lotion you buy

because they are changing formulas. Some lotions have Salicylic Acid as

well

as other acids in them. All that stuff does is make my skin blotchy.

GSE works well but I am also on a No yeast/wheat/gluten diet and am

trying

to keep my sugar intake low.

As I said , start out with a small dosage otherwise you might get that

�Yeast die off� which feels like a hangover times 100.

Good Luck!

Alison

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Maggie McQuade

Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:11 PM

candidiasis

Subject: RE: Is there Life after Candida

Hi Alison,

How does GSE help you ? I want to purchase it but I would like to

know what it does for you in helping to heal ?

I am itching very bad now and need relief :-(

Thanks.

Maggie

Alison <Callesto71@...> wrote:

Sorry about your itchiness! By the way, the nurse will never confess

anything for fear of a medial malpractice lawsuit. Maybe it was the lube

they put on the tools they use. (Like KY Jelly - I'm not sure what the

ingredients are but perhaps you are allergic to it?)

I also have to stay away from anything citrus. I can't even use citrus

soap!

I take vitamin C tablets but I think the part that bothers me, and maybe

you, it the acid mixed with the natural sugar in fruits. 'Burts Bees "

line

of products has both citric and sugar properties in some of their

products

and I can't use them or I get an itchy rash between my legs and behind my

knees. I have noticed that taking grapefruit seed extract continuously

has

helped me a lot with skin rashes, foliiculitis and body odor. I am also

doing a gentle bowel cleanse but sometimes forget to take the pills.

BTW, I have BlueCrossBlueShield PPO and they have a Naturopath available

so

perhaps they are catching on?

Also, it may be beneficial to keep a food diary so you can remember what

single or combinations of foods cause your skin to itch.

Alison, Chicago

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of peggypooh1@...

Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:43 AM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Is there Life after Candida

Last night for instance, I ate mango and I was itching a lot.

Especially between my legs by my inner thigh.

That is where it all started. On 1/6 I went into Kaiser for my regular

check up

which included a pap smear. I told her I was in menopause and I had my

period

for 15 days. The first four days were very very heavy. The nurse decided

to do

an EMB (cervical biopsies) Which came out negative by the way.

The next day I started itching down there. All over in my inner thighs

around my knees,

my thighs and started going to my stomach. It went up under my breast

where it is moist,

to my chest, my under arms (another moist area) up my neck. My feet

started itching.

I was itching inside, not outside. One doctor called it internal itching.

All the doctors I saw

were confused and did not know what was wrong with me because all the

tests were negative

and there was no outward sign of rash, hives or anything, but my scratch

marks and bruises

to show them evidence they were familiar with. Stupid doctors! I cannot

believe their

insensitivity. That when they don't know what is wrong they close the

door in my face.

That is so bad. They are not connected to us and they don't wanna be.

Even if the medical

board does not recognize alternative medicine that is still uncaring and

rude!

Of course my first impression would be to think that the EMB did

something....

But the nurse who by the way was very rude to me, said she has done that

procedure for

20 years, and refused to think that there was ANY possibility that it had

anything to

do with my extreme internal itching all over my body. The more I tried to

make sense

of it....the more she closed up. She didn't want to hear it. She advised

me to go to

internal medicine. And that I did.

AND THAN to allergy .....to dermatology....to another doctor with my

Bluecross outside of Kaiser.

It's been a confusing 4 months.

Right now I am still itching but not as much. I started the candida diet,

but I am not following it completely.

But I have cut out all sugars, no candy at See's, and I minimize my

carbs.

I stopped drinking coffee after 30 years and now drink green tea. Part of

my headaches right now.

But also I think I am detoxing.

I am doing garlic, yeast defense followed by probiotics and I am getting

ready to see a

homeopathic doctor as soon as I check to see if Bluecross will cover it

and I want to do a Colon cleanse.

She is the one that said to me:>>>>

Peggy, internal itching of the type you describe can be due to an

overgrowth

in yeast and candida type molds in the body. They can easily grow in

areas

when the immune system is weak or there is trauma (even surgical trauma).

Steroids only suppress the inflammatory response but do not kill the

pathogens. I am suprised that no one did a stool culture at least to

check

for levels of yeast/pathogenic bacteria and molds in your body. An

antifungal either herbal or prescriptive is very effective followed by

the

proper probiotics. Our clinic can evaluate this for you and the cost

would

be $150.00 for the initial one hour consult and testing plus any cost for

the stool test. It is not good to stay on steroids and there are many

effective ways to treat your condition without having to suppress

symptoms.

If you are interested please contact Jillian for an appointment and told

her

I told you it would be a 1 hour appointment base on our conversation.

Manayan 408-262-6900

Dr. Manayan is the one that put this candida thing into my mind. The

surgical trauma she is talking

about is the EMB.

Take care everyone....and remember to KEEP LOOKIN' UP,

=Peggy

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:28:24 -0000 " " <monica.james@...>

writes:

Hi Peggy,

I think you're right, that we're all suffering from yeast out of control!

I've tried to

rationalize why my situation was different from the systemic problems

that I've heard

others describe, but essentially, I think you've hit the nail on the

head--yeast! As I've

started the candida diet and started to feel a bit better, I've actually

noticed that I have

itching in my ears, nose, and throat that could be related to it being

allergy season, but it

could also be that pesky yeast that seems to have gotten into every nook

and cranny of my

body!

Diflucan is an antifungal drug in pill form that's supposed to be able to

cure a yeast

infection with in one dose...however, I took it off and on for the past

few years and a few

weeks ago I took it for five days in a row and it doesn't seem to help me

much at all

anymore. The only thing that seems to be working now is the candida diet

and grapefruit

seed extract, which I learned on these message boards is a natural

antifungal.

Anyway, good luck on your research and let us all know what you find!

>

> and ,

> From reading your emails it sounds like you are suffering from severe

> vaginal itching.

> I was trying to separate what you are going through from what I am

going

> through.

> But vaginal itching and the internal itching that I have are caused by

> the same culprit....YEAST OUT

> OF CONTROL.

>

> I am not itching so much in the vaginal area. But all of my life ever

> since I started having sex

> I have been irritated down there. People do pass things amongst

> eachother. Especailly after having my first child. I actually was told

by

> a doctor

> it was a yeast infection because there was evidence of white stuff

> discharging. Back in the 70's

> we used monostat and antibiotics. What is diflucan ??? Is this an

> antibiotic?

>

> I don't have time to do research....I have two full days ahead of me.

> MOn. and Tues. are always wild.

> But as soon as I have time I will do some research on this and the

> Question....can we overdose on suppliments ?

> and some colon cleansing questions. What brand of Biotin do ya'll use?

>

> Take care,

> -P

>

>

>

> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...>

> writes:

> Hi ,

> I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am

> going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just

humoring

> me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much

> about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. "

>

> I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and

> have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon

> cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal

> rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and

> supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but

that's

> the idea.

>

> I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any

> good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I

guess

> I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me

> systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am

> not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan.

>

> It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO

> much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I

> will be healthier than I have ever been before...

>

> Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me

immense

> amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled

> relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut.

>

> Please email me any time.

>

>

> It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the

> music, it seems to melt away.

> ~ O'Connor

>

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