Missing

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I remember him saying he goes to the VA hospital. But I do not know if he goes there for everything. I have a lot of his e-mails still. As I said I have also sent e-mails to some of his friends - no luck. Shall go back and look at e-mails tonight.

Gail Re: Missing

Does anyone know what hospital Bobby went to or the Doctors that he sees.....maybe when things settle down in his area we could go that route. All I know is that we sure miss him!!!

M in CA

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Di, SO SCARY!! {{{hugs}}}We called the local police and gave them a

description of , since he started to do this. He usually goes where

he thinks he is supposed to, but it is still really scary. The other night

at about 9:30, a neighbor rang the doorbell and said really calmly, "

is in the alley. " We have a door alarm and it didn't go off!! (Come to

find out, my older son had slammed the door and it was on the ground

outside) Anyway, the neighbor had his son getting and he had come to

tell me. By this time, they were walking up the walkway together and I

said, " WHAT WHERE YOU DOING???? " and he very sweetly, said " taking

the trash to the alley " and held up the empty garbage can with a beaming

smile!! Yikes! I profusely thanked the neighbor and then struggled with

how to handle this. I told he has to TELL US before he does that,

but didn't want to discourage the independence factor?!?! When we retraced

our steps, 5-10 minutes before this, I had told J's big brother to take out

the trash before he went to bed ( was in bed). When he didn't, I

repeated myself (they share a room). He had independently decided to help!!

That is a breakthrough!!!! I felt proud, and frustrated, and scared, and

grateful all at once!

On the other hand, we have neighbors who call us ALL the time, and say,

" is at the mail box " , " is walking to church " , " is out

in the front yard " . Better safe than sorry, but I feel like they think we

aren't watching the " poor little handicapped boy " . (Different than the

alley episode, different person too) All of these other times, we are

watching out the window, or have him go 1 minute before us and we can see

him the whole way. They call right before one of us is about to go outside.

I'd rather have it this way, than that they don't care, but it's just such a

juggling act. Ughh.

Di, I am so glad that Nic was okay!!!! I also am looking for a way to

educate my neighbors on different sides of the issue. I anxiously await

people's replies to this one.

Kym...mom to 5 including

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We shut down both Nordstrom's and Walmart in the same week with a Code

Adam, LOL. School shoe shopping, 1st grade........ never thought I'd

take her into a store again! Can't remember where she was going in

Nordstroms, but Walmart she left the group and went to the toy section

(of course!)........ employee found her bouncing a ball down the aisle,

happily playing. It was a long way from the shoes, and I couldn't

imagine that she could get there, but I guess when you are

motivated..............

As she has gotten older, we have found that when Elizbeth " leaves " she

typically has a purpose (like the taking out the trash incident).......

it's just that she hasn't shared it with us. Once at the beach, she

left and went to the bathroom ('cuz she had to go :-)......... she had

our entire group of moms in a panic there. She has made pictures and

then taken them to the neighbor girl who babysits (thankfully a mom of 5

who just calls and says " is visiting......... just wanted you

to know " ) As she gets older and better able to express herself, I am

starting to think that at least part of the " DS running gene " is not

just " running " , but going somewhere on purpose, then perhaps not exactly

getting to where they intended, and then not being able to tell/remember

what they were doing in the first place. Had we not found

coming out of the bathroom at the beach, I doubt she would have said

" hey you crybabies, I just had to go to the bathroom..... what's the big

deal! " ... we would have wondered why she was way away from the sand, but

probably not put 2 and 2 together.

Thankfully, I think our runners have extra guardian angels assigned to them!

, mom to (10), (8 DS), and Sammy (7)

Eleanor Green wrote:

> What were they thinking?????????

>

> I'm so glad it turned out fine. I have had 1 or 2 experiences with getting

> to the point of almost crying when our has gone out the door,

> and one

> other time at a store. I nearly shut down (aka Amber Alert) the store when

> I couldn't find her.

>

> Eleanor

>

> Missing

>

> Nic went missing yesterday.

> My fault, I left the gate unlocked after bringing in the groceries.

> After realizing he wasn't watching his TV show, I checked in my MIL's room

> (where he often commandeers her TV) she hadn't seen him. I ran

> outside, saw

> the gate open and Katja (our German Shepard) up the street. A couple

> of the

> neighbor kids were outside. Austin was trying to get Katja. I asked

> the girl

> if she'd seen Nic and she said he went that way , and pointed to the house

> across the street. (I know he didn't look for cars before crossing over-I

> got a bad feeling). I ran to the house and was calling his name over and

> over all around the sides and rear of the house. I was frantic. Just

> beyond

> the yard is a very busy state route.

>

> Meanwhile, other neighbors heard me and came out to help look. Finally I

> pounded on the door of the house, the woman opened it and said " He's in

> here. "

> I said " didn't you hear me screaming for him? " (everyone else in the

> 'hood,

> did).

> She let me in and there he was watching TV and playing with a toy. I

> was in

> tears by that time. I started apologizing and I grabbed him and

> started for

> the door telling him he was not to leave the yard etc etc. They never

> said a

> word. Then before leaving I asked, " Did he just walk into your house? " She

> said, " No, Herman was outside and brought him in. " ?????????

> I was so thankful that I found him safe that I wasn't thinking about

> anything else but now that I'm calmed down, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING??

>

> I'm thinking about making a flyer and giving it to all the neighbors

> (altho'

> I didn't think it necessary since everyone KNOWS Nic.) that if they

> ever see

> him alone, to call us or bring him home. Should I go to the police too and

> maybe give them a heads-up about Nic and his elopement and maybe give

> them a

> picture?

>

> I was never so scared before.

>

> Oh and the dog? She continued wandering on her own. Austin tried to

> grab her

> but her collar came off so he just kept following her. Jake and I

> jumped in

> our cars to look for them. I found them on the other side of the main

> road(at rush hour). Austin said she almost got hit by a truck.

> I drove them both home and gave Austin 5 bucks for his help. He tried to

> refuse but I said he didn't HAVE to chase my dog but he did and I really

> appreciated it.

> We got the dog so she could protect Nic but she doesn't have a clue.. 80(

>

> Di

>

>

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Karrie has decided that she can now take off in our local Wal-Mart. The first

time it happened, about 2 months ago, I frantically searched up and down the

closest 3 aisle, then ran for the service desk up front. They immediately called

out an Adam Alert. Later, I was very touched to see how many people joined in to

look for my daughter.

She came strolling down towards the front of the store with a new book. She'd

gone across the store to pick out a book!! After I calmed down...we had a long

talk about how she is to stay with me at all times.

I'm trying to give her more freedom and independence, but it's so hard!!

I'm home today with a fever, sneezes, coughs, and severe body aches. I'm going

back to bed now...

Sue mom to Kate 16 and Karrie 10 with ds and autism.

[Guest guest]

There is a very good newsletter on children with Ds wandering off on the

Disability Solutions site. It gives some great tips and some good messages. I

highly recommend it: www.disabilitysolutions.org

I remember the days where Tim would wander off and had some very close calls

in the highway during his wanderings. My heart goes out to you! I would

definately talk with the neighbors and let them all know that if Nic is out on

his own, it is not because you let him run free!

Kristy

[Guest guest]

I'm so glad he was alright.

I glad Wal-Mart has a good 'missing child' program. They shut the doors and all

employees look for the child. Our son got away from me in Wal-Mart. They found

him in the staff break room. He had gotten someone to buy a soda for him.

Running away is a problem with a lot of our kids for a few years. Fortunately

they do outgrow it. Many times that he ran, he had a purpose; but I think there

was a stage he went through that he ran for fun and oneryness.

Best wishes to you all.

Shirley

[Guest guest]

Angie,

is 9 years old

Kym

[Guest guest]

I have to tend to agree

Kym

<<<Thankfully, I think our runners have extra guardian angels assigned to

them!

>>>

[Guest guest]

AMEN!

>

> Thankfully, I think our runners have extra guardian angels assigned to

> them!

>

> , mom to (10), (8 DS), and Sammy (7)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kristy, I love Disability Solutions, I get the hard copy so I must

have missed that issue. I'll check it out.

Do I do a search on the website?

Di

Re: Missing

> There is a very good newsletter on children with Ds wandering off on the

> Disability Solutions site. It gives some great tips and some good

> messages. I highly recommend it: www.disabilitysolutions.org

>

> I remember the days where Tim would wander off and had some very close

> calls in the highway during his wanderings. My heart goes out to you! I

> would definately talk with the neighbors and let them all know that if Nic

> is out on his own, it is not because you let him run free!

>

> Kristy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Di,

Thank goodness he was alright. We 'lost' at a street fair once. The

police shut down all the cross walks. I was frantic- she was with ralph,

her dad and I wasnt there. he called me and I ran there in like 30 secs.

Prob after like 5 mins she showed up and I was like " oh thank God youre ok "

Youre not lost, etc. And she was like- " Mom, I wasnt lost, I knew where I

was. I went to get a hot dog. "

OK- didnt sound too funny then, but she really wasnt lost. I think that

although its very scary, some of our kids really do know what they are doing

and

where they are going. Now if we go food shopping, I even send her to other

aisles to pick up stuff.

[Guest guest]

Well Jan is 33 and the wandering gene is still turned on. We've been

thru many, many adventures, but never yet had to call for help. We're

also pretty fortunate that nothing really bad ever happened.

When she was 4 and we were on Nantucket, we came downstairs in the

morning where the kids were all up and playing and asked where Jan and

her two year old brother were. No one knew and they weren't in the

house. We had four adults and went in four directions. They were found

pulling a wagon they had picked up, being led by a lady who saw them out

on the street in there PJs. She was headed to the police station, where

I guess they would have been booked for wagon theft. At that point Jan

was the leader of our " twins " , but not long afterwards, Steve took over

as leader of our Thing One and Thing Two team.

Lost in a department store at Christmas when I simply turned to look at

something. Found her on the floor in books reading. She left the house

a number of times and visited the recluse couple next door. He would

bring her back after a visit. She was one person who opened him up a

little. Can't remember how many times we've gotten separated at the

mall or in stores. Mostly it was because I hadn't given very precise

instructions about where to meet and when. Still I have to respect her

independence.

Still, she once has gotten in over her head just after she moved into

her new place. She went to the shopping center and couldn't find her

way home. It got more and more complicated, but eventually a bus driver

decided something was wrong and met with the local police. She had a

clear story on where she lived, but they called us to make sure. It was

scary in retrospect and we've had some restrictions and lots of training

since.

Today was New Almaden Day, our annual parade and community party. Jan

had an alumni hike in the morning with some of her team in training from

the Grand Canyon adventure and then we went and found our " jump in "

parade and she jumped into the parade and spend the rest of the day

helping with one of the children's games. Everyone in our community

knows her already .. the article in the local paper helped. One of the

neighbors I don't know very well ate lunch with Jan. I just checked in

to make sure Jan had an appropriate size lunch (and she did).

Tomorrow morning Jan and I have a hike together and then I'll take her

back to her own place for the week. We're bring her home on weekends

because we like to see her and because she needs some help managing

weight and exercise.

Rick

[Guest guest]

,

I would suggest you get your computer checked out by someone who can

run full diagnostic tests, especially if you notice anything else odd/

I'm going to start again with mine soon: new power supply, motherboard

and processor, perhaps a second hard drive. Computers wear out, or

rather the components do. if you notice anything else odd eg your

settings changing etc, problems on start up close down etc, then it

could be a malfunction.

Of course I am assuming quality up to date firewall and anti-virus are

installed already.

Margaret

>

> I just saw that my WHOLE August Inbox is missing.except for one

email. I usually have at least 60 messages which I keep in every

calendar month. When I delete I usually do this on an individual basis

and not in groups. The chances of a whole month and exactly a calendar

month is very wierd. Has this happened to anybody here??

>

>

>

> (Very perturbed)

>

[Guest guest]

I too am sitting here stunned and so deeply saddened by Bob Jone's

email about . She was so excited about her missionary trip to

Africa. I spoke to her just before she left and she was nervous about

the long flight, but delighted with the whole idea of the trip.

I will miss my dear friend deeply....she was one in a million

[Guest guest]

Wow. Me too. It’s almost beyond comprehension. After finally getting her back fixed up, I thought she might actually have a real quality of life.

I wonder what happened.

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On 3/2/07 9:41 PM, " " <mrstrem@...> wrote:

I too am sitting here stunned and so deeply saddened by Bob Jone's

email about . She was so excited about her missionary trip to

Africa. I spoke to her just before she left and she was nervous about

the long flight, but delighted with the whole idea of the trip.

I will miss my dear friend deeply....she was one in a million