Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 Buenas Dias , My name is Barbara. I had a liver transplant 4years 4months ago. I had AIH, my immune system destroyed my liver. No one knows why. I did not have any other conditions such as PSC, PBC or anything else. I don't know if you have the same condition. Do you take any medication now? Did your doctor say that you would need to have a transplant? If so, in which hospital would you have the transplant? I will be happy to answer any questions about my experience and help you in any way I can. This disease is very frightening because the doctors don't know what causes it or how to cure it except with a transplant. Sometimes, the doctors are able to get AIH under control with medication and many people never need a transplant. In the U.S. most of the medical centers have support groups for pre and post transplant recipients. I don't know what is offered in Brazil. I have found it very helpful to talk to other people with liver disease eventhough, it may not be the exact same disease. I would love to hear from you. Barbara A. P.S. I wish I had been a better student in my spanish class in school. Barbara A. -- On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:44:51 Dalton Bohrer Lobosco wrote: >Hi group, > >My name is , I'm 19 and I have AIH. This is the second time I'm >trying to write to you ( no answer first time ). > >I think it will be good for me to have a contact with people who has the >same problem than I, to share info, because I have too many doubts. > >My father show me the list, he had already written a few messages, now I'm >trying to do it by myself. > >It's difficult to write in another language, but we don't find a group like >that anywhere. So I count on you to make an effort to understand me. > >Based on what I had already read, I think our share would be great. ) > >Thanks and have a nice day, > > >AIH >Brazil > > Dalton Bohrer Lobosco > dlobosco@... > www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/4017 > ICQ UIN #3424915 > Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Are you reading from the Iodine Supplementation guide or old posts? The guide (in the files) tells you what to do. Buist, ND HC Beginning I was taking Iodoral for at least 6 months and then stopped for certain reasons. I would now like to continue again. I remembered when taking it the last time, I gained weight. I just read in the FILES-instructions, that sometimes something happens to the cell and the toxins are not allowed to be eliminated, and causes retention and weight gain. But it doesnt say how to combat that. Any ideas? How do you make it/toxins to be more eliminating-extractable? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Look at # 11 in The Guide to Supplementing Iodine. Best, Kathleen moderator Beginning I was taking Iodoral for at least 6 months and then stopped for certain reasons. I would now like to continue again. I remembered when taking it the last time, I gained weight. I just read in the FILES-instructions, that sometimes something happens to the cell and the toxins are not allowed to be eliminated, and causes retention and weight gain. But it doesnt say how to combat that. Any ideas? How do you make it/toxins to be more eliminating-extractable? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Hi. I have also battled this problem, and no offense to the group, which is in many many ways totally fantastic, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of, well, sympathy for those of us who have this problem. Basically, the answer is to work on your pathways. There is the salt-loading, to help you to urinate more, and liver support (I am currently using some I ordered from Brownstein's store) companion nutrients, and so on. Personally, I want to offer real sympathy. I have had trouble losing weight for many years (though not obese, or even near it) but frankly, going up two dress sizes in 6 months is NOT OK. I am sticking it out, though, and have gone back to the Iodine and companion nutrients. Up to 100 mg daily iodine, all the companions. Your question about how to get your cells to give up the fat after they have supposedly gobbled up the toxins and refuse to let them go has been a fruitless search so far for me and I am a good web researcher. You will find over and over again the same thing: your cells take on the toxins and store them in fat because the pathways to releasing the toxins are blocked. Use salt loading, liver support, companion nutrients...good luck. I have looked for months for articles other than the ones by the " iodine doctors " Brownstein, Flechas, etc. that explain how this thing about fat storage happens in scientific terms and more importantly the obvious next question: how to get the fat cells to release the toxins. Sometimes I see warnings about how this can actually be dangerous because if they are released back into the bloodstream the liver takes them up again via the bile and they go back into your system and can damage organs. That doesn't sound encouraging, to say the least. So...liver support, salt loading, pathways. I use A WHOLE LOT of vitamin C...by 10AM each day I am usually kind of coughing up plegm and I always feel better afterwards. Hoping I'm getting rid of toxins. I've never been able to sweat much, and live in a cool climate anyway...some say that's a good way to get rid of toxins, but unavailable to me so far. Good luck, and keep posting! You're not alone. > > I was taking Iodoral for at least 6 months and then stopped for certain reasons. I would now like to continue again. I remembered when taking it the last time, I gained weight. I just read in the FILES-instructions, that sometimes something happens to the cell and the toxins are not allowed to be eliminated, and causes retention and weight gain. But it doesnt say how to combat that. Any ideas? How do you make it/toxins to be more eliminating-extractable? Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Coughing up phlegm every day makes me wonder if you're eating a lot of dairy. I know for me eating dairy foods in any amount makes me gain weight rapidly, which weight refuses to come off. I have several friends who report the same thing, which makes me think it's fairly common. I've learned I have to avoid dairy completely, in all forms, and sugar also, for the most part. I no longer deal with phlegm and have much less stubborn adipose tissue. So there could be a food sensitivity component to this. Not sure how iodine plays into it, though, as I'm still a newbie on 5 drops Lugol's a day. Dairy wouldn't account for weight problems that started at the same time as the iodine supplementation, but I just wanted to mention that in case it is helpful. ShaunaOn Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 7:07 PM, reseau50 <skmcelroy@...> wrote: Hi. I have also battled this problem, and no offense to the group, which is in many many ways totally fantastic, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of, well, sympathy for those of us who have this problem. Basically, the answer is to work on your pathways. There is the salt-loading, to help you to urinate more, and liver support (I am currently using some I ordered from Brownstein's store) companion nutrients, and so on. Personally, I want to offer real sympathy. I have had trouble losing weight for many years (though not obese, or even near it) but frankly, going up two dress sizes in 6 months is NOT OK. I am sticking it out, though, and have gone back to the Iodine and companion nutrients. Up to 100 mg daily iodine, all the companions. Your question about how to get your cells to give up the fat after they have supposedly gobbled up the toxins and refuse to let them go has been a fruitless search so far for me and I am a good web researcher. You will find over and over again the same thing: your cells take on the toxins and store them in fat because the pathways to releasing the toxins are blocked. Use salt loading, liver support, companion nutrients...good luck. I have looked for months for articles other than the ones by the " iodine doctors " Brownstein, Flechas, etc. that explain how this thing about fat storage happens in scientific terms and more importantly the obvious next question: how to get the fat cells to release the toxins. Sometimes I see warnings about how this can actually be dangerous because if they are released back into the bloodstream the liver takes them up again via the bile and they go back into your system and can damage organs. That doesn't sound encouraging, to say the least. So...liver support, salt loading, pathways. I use A WHOLE LOT of vitamin C...by 10AM each day I am usually kind of coughing up plegm and I always feel better afterwards. Hoping I'm getting rid of toxins. I've never been able to sweat much, and live in a cool climate anyway...some say that's a good way to get rid of toxins, but unavailable to me so far. Good luck, and keep posting! You're not alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Not sure what you are googling but here a few resources: http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/learning/toxic-body-weight-loss.html http://www.liverdoctor.com/index.php?page=liver-problems & subpage=weightloss http://www.kisswebpage.com/toxinsandweight/ http://www.myfrienddebbie.com/article_master.php?id=897 Many of us have battled this problem. One of the obstacles I've found is that many people start with a few supplements, like iodine for instance, and then quit when they find out that there are other issues to deal with, the monetary cost can become prohibitive for some and others just don't want to address everything they need to. It takes a lot of work and expense in many cases to get well. Some of the products, particularly liver supplements can be costly, and some people will try them once and that's it, they expect that to solve the problem. More than likely it won't. If one is severely deficient in something, then they may notice improvements quickly. Detoxing is not something that is a quick process and it's also not something that you do once and everything is cured, it's an ongoing process. One of these days I'll try to find enough time to put together a survey of supplements that people are taking (and how long they've been taking) that might be of help. Linn Moderator > > > > I was taking Iodoral for at least 6 months and then stopped for certain reasons. I would now like to continue again. I remembered when taking it the last time, I gained weight. I just read in the FILES-instructions, that sometimes something happens to the cell and the toxins are not allowed to be eliminated, and causes retention and weight gain. But it doesnt say how to combat that. Any ideas? How do you make it/toxins to be more eliminating-extractable? Thanks, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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