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, I have had 2 neck fusion one in 97 and 1 in 2004 I am still in

so much pain with my neck. I guess its aurthic. I use a tens unit

about everyday and take a pain pill. I have lots of problems with my

back and have had for years. The last thing I want is to do surgery

on my back. I started to several times and that when they said my

neck was worse and they would have to fuse my neck first before I

could have back surgery.I do need to take off 50 lbs and I am 67

years old. Good luck to you.

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> I have had surgery once on the neck with fusion almost EXACTLY 6

years ago.. I have an appt next week with neurosurgeon.. I just want

the pain to go away.. I have been laying flat most of the time but

my back hurts more now where they kept sticking the needles that I am

icing that. He said he thinks I have bone spurs on the back and that

is why he had a hard time getting the needle in..

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Why would I have surgery? And surgery on what? LOL.

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think I EVER want another one of these. I see the neurosurgeon on

Wed. I already have fusion of c4-5 and now they are looking at fusion

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When you get ready to do this test, ask them to take and record an opening

pressure. That measurement is important for anyone facing surgery or that has

headaches.

Good luck and God bless,

Lexie

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> I have had good relief from RFL, but sadly it doesn't last long

enough for me to be a viable source of pain relief. I only get about 2

-3 weeks relief and you can do it no sooner than 3 months apart on the

same side. ---

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I had mine the last week in December and it took a few weeks for the

pain to subside. I don't have half as much burning pain in my arms as

I once did. I hope mine lasts a while.

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I do too! Most people get much longer of relief than what I get. But also, for

me I only had pain for a few days after the RFL. I have to wonder if the

technique of my doc is up to par? Yikes...that's  a hard pill to swallow. I

chose very carefully when I chose this doc.---

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Subject: Re: Myelogram

spinal problems

Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 9:58 PM

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> I have had good relief from RFL, but sadly it doesn't last long

enough for me to be a viable source of pain relief. I only get about 2

-3 weeks relief and you can do it no sooner than 3 months apart on the

same side. ---

>

I had mine the last week in December and it took a few weeks for the

pain to subside. I don't have half as much burning pain in my arms as

I once did. I hope mine lasts a while.

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I have had to have mine do, once before surgery, and once after

 

Robin

From: Babbitt <tpowell1977@...>

Subject: Re: Myelogram

spinal problems

Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 2:02 AM

 

Honestly they are a little outdated...and I've never heard of someone needing

more than one. Not sure I would go through one again!

 --- Babbitt

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I had surgery anterior fusion surgery in Feb and still have pain. I went to a

different neurosurgeon today and he wants to do a myelogram.. I had one before

my last surgery in Feb. Why would I have to have another one.. He said it was to

see if there was any nerves that are squeezed.. I thought the last myelogram was

painful.. Not sure what I should do.. anyone have any idea for me?

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From: Babbitt <tpowell1977@...>

Subject: Re: Myelogram

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Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 2:02 AM

 

Honestly they are a little outdated...and I've never heard of someone needing

more than one. Not sure I would go through one again!

 --- Babbitt

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Subject: Myelogram

 

I had surgery anterior fusion surgery in Feb and still have pain. I went to a

different neurosurgeon today and he wants to do a myelogram.. I had one before

my last surgery in Feb. Why would I have to have another one.. He said it was to

see if there was any nerves that are squeezed.. I thought the last myelogram was

painful.. Not sure what I should do.. anyone have any idea for me?

Thanks

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Did it show anything different?

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From: robymill@...

Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:58:14 -0700

Subject: Re: Myelogram

I have had to have mine do, once before surgery, and once

after

Robin

From: Babbitt <tpowell1977@...>

Subject: Re: Myelogram

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Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 2:02 AM

Honestly they are a little outdated...and I've never heard of someone needing

more than one. Not sure I would go through one again!

--- Babbitt

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Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:07:24 PM

Subject: Myelogram

I had surgery anterior fusion surgery in Feb and still have pain. I went to a

different neurosurgeon today and he wants to do a myelogram.. I had one before

my last surgery in Feb. Why would I have to have another one.. He said it was to

see if there was any nerves that are squeezed.. I thought the last myelogram was

painful.. Not sure what I should do.. anyone have any idea for me?

Thanks

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Robin:

I don't mean to make something out of nothing, but there is a great deal of

information out there concerning the dangers of myleograms. The older dyes can

cause something called arachnoiditis -- which is a life time of pain. Read the

Burton Report before you consent. I'm sure there are other alternatives for

testing (CT scan or MRI). I had compressed nerves at C6-C7 and a CT scan was

most sufficient.

Kathy

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> From: Babbitt <tpowell1977@...>

> Subject: Re: Myelogram

> spinal problems

> Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 2:02 AM

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> Honestly they are a little outdated...and I've never heard of someone needing

more than one. Not sure I would go through one again!

>  --- Babbitt

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> From: <ljorichardson0912@ hotmail.com>

> painintheneck- back@groups .com; spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro

ups.com

> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:07:24 PM

> Subject: Myelogram

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>

> I had surgery anterior fusion surgery in Feb and still have pain. I went to a

different neurosurgeon today and he wants to do a myelogram.. I had one before

my last surgery in Feb. Why would I have to have another one.. He said it was to

see if there was any nerves that are squeezed.. I thought the last myelogram was

painful.. Not sure what I should do.. anyone have any idea for me?

>

> Thanks

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I'd also add that there can be financial morbidity as well.

When I had mine I had to pay $200 to walk in the door (with the other bills

coming later. The neurosurgeon did the dye injection himself and was rough --

like he's used to being able to be with a patient who is under anesthesia (maybe

they're always like that? I don't know, having only gone through the ordeal

once). The roughness may not have been the cause, but I got a whopper of a

headache from the spinal leak.

Because I knew that I had to pay another $200 to walk back into the hospital for

a blood patch, and another series of the ancillary bills, I waited a week before

relenting and getting the blood patch. I had to: I was scheduled for surgery in

7 days and couldn't see going for spinal surgery with a prexisting leak. (Yes,

I'm aware how stupid I was waiting that long... but I was basically unable to

think for myself after the first couple of days.)

I think it's a very good idea to know ahead of time PRECISELY what the doc wants

to find out from the myelogram, and if there is any other way to get the same

data.

BTW-- do they tend to use the same location for myelograms, lumbar punctures,

etc? That's something I'd like to know, to avoid complications from repeated

punture at the same location.

All best,

>

> Kathy is correct. With the advanced radiology techniques available today that

are COMPLETELY non-invasive...the use of myelogram is plummeting. It has too

many risks and the more you have the higher your risk is. The cerabrospinal

fluis is in a delicate balance. Foreign substances can cause a host of problems

as well as offsetting the exact amount of fluid you have. This test requires a

radiopaque dye to be injected into the fluid that surrounds the of your spinal

cord, is is considered part of the spinal cord. This fluid is continuous with

the fluid in your brain. the dye will also suround your brain...as well as any

bacteria that may get in.

> I have not heard of a person going through that many myelograms.

>  --- Babbitt

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>

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> From: Kathy <kathy.thun@...>

> spinal problems

> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:28:37 AM

> Subject: Re: Myelogram

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>  

> Robin:

>

> I don't mean to make something out of nothing, but there is a great deal of

information out there concerning the dangers of myleograms. The older dyes can

cause something called arachnoiditis -- which is a life time of pain. Read the

Burton Report before you consent. I'm sure there are other alternatives for

testing (CT scan or MRI). I had compressed nerves at C6-C7 and a CT scan was

most sufficient.

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> Kathy

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I had a myleogram years ago and the headache lasted for about ten

days. It would go away if I was laying down or lowered my head. We

had just bought a new pick up and I had to ride about 30 miles to the

dealers so I could sign. I kept my head down all the way, walked in

and had to put my head down in front of the dealer. So embarassing

but the pain was unrelenting then it just went away. About two years

ago on neurologist wanted to do it again and I refused as I knew I

would not have another surgery unless it was life threatening.

Lois

On 9/25/09, mamawolf33 <vendetta33@...> wrote:

> I'd also add that there can be financial morbidity as well.

>

> When I had mine I had to pay $200 to walk in the door (with the other bills

> coming later. The neurosurgeon did the dye injection himself and was rough

> -- like he's used to being able to be with a patient who is under anesthesia

> (maybe they're always like that? I don't know, having only gone through the

> ordeal once). The roughness may not have been the cause, but I got a whopper

> of a headache from the spinal leak.

>

> Because I knew that I had to pay another $200 to walk back into the hospital

> for a blood patch, and another series of the ancillary bills, I waited a

> week before relenting and getting the blood patch. I had to: I was scheduled

> for surgery in 7 days and couldn't see going for spinal surgery with a

> prexisting leak. (Yes, I'm aware how stupid I was waiting that long... but I

> was basically unable to think for myself after the first couple of days.)

>

> I think it's a very good idea to know ahead of time PRECISELY what the doc

> wants to find out from the myelogram, and if there is any other way to get

> the same data.

>

> BTW-- do they tend to use the same location for myelograms, lumbar

> punctures, etc? That's something I'd like to know, to avoid complications

> from repeated punture at the same location.

>

> All best,

>

>

>

>

>>

>> Kathy is correct. With the advanced radiology techniques available today

>> that are COMPLETELY non-invasive...the use of myelogram is plummeting. It

>> has too many risks and the more you have the higher your risk is.

>> The cerabrospinal fluis is in a delicate balance. Foreign substances can

>> cause a host of problems as well as offsetting the exact amount of fluid

>> you have. This test requires a radiopaque dye to be injected into the

>> fluid that surrounds the of your spinal cord, is is considered part of the

>> spinal cord. This fluid is continuous with the fluid in your brain. the

>> dye will also suround your brain...as well as any bacteria that may get

>> in.

>> I have not heard of a person going through that many myelograms.

>>  --- Babbitt

>>

>>

> ________________________________

>> From: Kathy <kathy.thun@...>

>> spinal problems

>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:28:37 AM

>> Subject: Re: Myelogram

>>

>>

>> Robin:

>>

>> I don't mean to make something out of nothing, but there is a great deal

>> of information out there concerning the dangers of myleograms. The older

>> dyes can cause something called arachnoiditis -- which is a life time of

>> pain. Read the Burton Report before you consent. I'm sure there are other

>> alternatives for testing (CT scan or MRI). I had compressed nerves at

>> C6-C7 and a CT scan was most sufficient.

>>

>> Kathy

>

>

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That was a spinal headache due to the needle hole not sealing up, you lose some

of the cerebrospinal fluid. It is treatable with a blood patch...immediate

relief. I hate that docs make people suffer that way when they can fix it.

 --- Babbitt

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From: Lois Churchill <mickyk13@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:53:29 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Myelogram

 

I had a myleogram years ago and the headache lasted for about ten

days. It would go away if I was laying down or lowered my head. We

had just bought a new pick up and I had to ride about 30 miles to the

dealers so I could sign. I kept my head down all the way, walked in

and had to put my head down in front of the dealer. So embarassing

but the pain was unrelenting then it just went away. About two years

ago on neurologist wanted to do it again and I refused as I knew I

would not have another surgery unless it was life threatening.

Lois

On 9/25/09, mamawolf33 <vendetta33comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

> I'd also add that there can be financial morbidity as well.

>

> When I had mine I had to pay $200 to walk in the door (with the other bills

> coming later. The neurosurgeon did the dye injection himself and was rough

> -- like he's used to being able to be with a patient who is under anesthesia

> (maybe they're always like that? I don't know, having only gone through the

> ordeal once). The roughness may not have been the cause, but I got a whopper

> of a headache from the spinal leak.

>

> Because I knew that I had to pay another $200 to walk back into the hospital

> for a blood patch, and another series of the ancillary bills, I waited a

> week before relenting and getting the blood patch. I had to: I was scheduled

> for surgery in 7 days and couldn't see going for spinal surgery with a

> prexisting leak. (Yes, I'm aware how stupid I was waiting that long... but I

> was basically unable to think for myself after the first couple of days.)

>

> I think it's a very good idea to know ahead of time PRECISELY what the doc

> wants to find out from the myelogram, and if there is any other way to get

> the same data.

>

> BTW-- do they tend to use the same location for myelograms, lumbar

> punctures, etc? That's something I'd like to know, to avoid complications

> from repeated punture at the same location.

>

> All best,

>

>

>

>

>>

>> Kathy is correct. With the advanced radiology techniques available today

>> that are COMPLETELY non-invasive. ..the use of myelogram is plummeting. It

>> has too many risks and the more you have the higher your risk is.

>> The cerabrospinal fluis is in a delicate balance. Foreign substances can

>> cause a host of problems as well as offsetting the exact amount of fluid

>> you have. This test requires a radiopaque dye to be injected into the

>> fluid that surrounds the of your spinal cord, is is considered part of the

>> spinal cord. This fluid is continuous with the fluid in your brain. the

>> dye will also suround your brain...as well as any bacteria that may get

>> in.

>> I have not heard of a person going through that many myelograms.

>>  --- Babbitt

>>

>>

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>> From: Kathy <kathy.thun@ ...>

>> spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:28:37 AM

>> Subject: Re: Myelogram

>>

>>

>> Robin:

>>

>> I don't mean to make something out of nothing, but there is a great deal

>> of information out there concerning the dangers of myleograms. The older

>> dyes can cause something called arachnoiditis -- which is a life time of

>> pain. Read the Burton Report before you consent. I'm sure there are other

>> alternatives for testing (CT scan or MRI). I had compressed nerves at

>> C6-C7 and a CT scan was most sufficient.

>>

>> Kathy

>

>

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> I am so sorry that you are hurting. The headache should be gone in a

few days. I have had 4 of them and I know that every one is different

and I hope you get better soon. They should have found what they are

looking for so I don't think that you will need another one. The best

thing for the headache is sleep and total darkness. I hope you get

better soon. Be strong. great5kids

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> I had a cervical myelogram today.. Oh my goodness that was painful and

I have a TERRIBLE headache. I hope they find the news they need to

because I won't do that again..

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You probably have a spinal headache, which comes from the spinal fluid leaking

out the puncture hole in the dura. It will probably not get better quickly. Some

will heal on their own in a few days to a few weeks. Were you kept flat for at

least an hour after the test? Did you lie flat for the rest of the day today?

you are supposed to do that for a day after to reduce the liklihood of spinal

headache. In the liklihood that it gets worse or does not improve with

time...you need to contact your doc who did the procedure and ask for a blood

patch. For this they withdraw some blood from your arm and inject it into your

back where it seals up the hole and you get immediate relief.

 --- Babbitt

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Sent: Fri, October 2, 2009 8:04:07 PM

Subject: RE: Myelogram

 

I had a cervical myelogram today.. Oh my goodness that was painful and I have a

TERRIBLE headache. I hope they find the news they need to because I won't do

that again..

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