Homozon/colostrum/leaky gut

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Hi Debbie, Replies in text below.

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Donna wrote:

#Hi Deb. Well, first of all I would like to say that I don't think there

>is any product out there that works for everyone, no matter how good it >is.

So just because I love it doesn't mean everyone should. Smile.#

DEB:If the method that Homozon works by is as simple as stated, it should

work for everyone, even if there are side effects, it should work but I

will give you that as it does not matter, unless you are the one it does

not help or does not help in that time frame, maybe in another time

frame.

###I should have been more clear here. when I said work, I didn't mean it in

the strictest sense of the word. I mean, if you don't like the flavor, then it

won't work for you, if you don't have patience for the bathroom antics it won't

work for you, and even if it does work technically, if you feel ill from the

cleansing, or whatever, have any kind of negative experience that you personally

can't get past, then it won't work for you in a broader sense. I have seen lots

of great products come around over the years, colostrum for instance, and I have

yet to see one that everyone liked or did well on. I would say colostrum is the

closest. Maybe two out of one hundred of my colostrum customers had a negative

experience. That is low, but it still shows me that not everything works for

everyone. And with most products the rate of " not working " is much higher.

Average, in my experience is about 60/40 60 positive to 40 negative. Rough

estimating.

So, it doesn't matter to me that, on paper, homozon should work for

everyone. It doesn't and that is a fact. Maybe technically it does, but if it

doesn't work practically, because it is too unpleasant for one reason or

another, then it doesn't work.

DEB:I know others on the oxy list, where I have been a member for some very

long time and it did not do anything good or did some bad for them. I

will not state it doesn't work for some but no one has shown me that it

will. I have not seen marvelous testimonies for its miracle curative

powers. What I mean is, new people join lists all the time and I have

not seen these testimonials. I think it is NOT dangerous to try but I

don't think everyone is going to have great results. When I went to

check the testimonials on the web page, there were some pretty lame

excuses for testimonials there:O.

### I wholeheartedly agree. I have heard a lot of good responses, which is

why I tried it myself, and I am really conservative with what I try. But I

haven't heard of too many total healings, but I haven't really looked either. I

never expected homozon to do that for me. I just wanted a little nudge along

the way and believed homozon would do that and it has. Well, it was a big

nudge, actually.

And on the amount of testimonies, the number of homozon users is quite

small, I know that because when I asked the people who make it how many cans

they sell a month, it was around a thousand or less. That is not alot

especially when you know that some people use more than two cans a month. That

is a small group of people doing homozon. That surprised me.

# What doses did you take? Would be my first question. If it was

>liquifying your stool then it was doing its job and there is no reason to

>believe that you were reabsorbing toxins.

DEB:I don't see how you can say this and profess to understand what a leaky

gut is??????

###Well the reason I say that is because, when it moves through me it moves

fast and is out of my system. It is not like it is just sitting in there for

hours on end. I mean. I take homozon and in less than five hours it is coming

out. So I am thinking it is moving it out fast and so reabsorption would be

minimal.###

> And, from what Dr. Freibott says, who makes it, the liquification is >not

diarrhea. It does not cause a loss of electrolytes.

It sucks so much water into the bowel?

###I know, I know, but everyone I have talked to who take much higher doses

than I do, say they never had to replace electrolytes. I don't understand it,

but it is something about actually creating its own water, rather than pulling

it from the system. water is h20. two parts hydrogen to one part oxygen and is

actually liquid gas, technically. and supposedly ozone turns into hydrogen

peroxide, blah, blah, blah, I don't understand it all, lol. But it is not

dehydrating, according to the experts, which I am not. Smile.

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DEB: I will try your Colostrum, even though I have

tried another brand.

###Hon, this really is not a sales pitch, okay, but I have had numerous

people tell me they tried others with little or no benefit and then tried Immune

Tree's and had great results. Being pure colostrum with no milk and higher

levels of all the active ingredients really does make a difference. I have a

friend who had horrific food allergies that sent him running to the bathroom

within hrs of eating onion, beans, cheese, pepperoni. After one week on

colostrum he was able to eat all of these with no ill effect at all.

I had the same experience. I am sure I had leaky gut for years and had

never heard of it until I learned about colostrum and that was one of the things

it was promoted for. Well, one week after being on colostrum, I also was able

to eat things that had previously made me sink like a rock. For me it was

mustard, pickles, vinegar or anything spicey. Other than that I mostly ate just

fruits veges and meat and whole grains. ANYTHING else was a problem. Now I can

eat anything and it doesn't bother me. It is so liberating. I still eat clean

food. But on those rare occasions when eating socially or away from home and

having to eat stuff that is low quality, I am able to do it without feeling bad

for several days afterward.

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Didn't someone say that they put some in a glass and put the lemon in

and waited and nothing happened and since ozone has such a distictive

odor, where was that odor?? I did it too and saw nothing but I don't

know what ozone smells like, I do know I did not SEE any oxygen??

###I am not sure about other peoples experiences with this, Bjorn, on the

oxyplus list said if you put it in a closed container with a balloon on top it

will expand the balloon. My experience is that when I put it directly into pink

grapefruit juice and keep it in my mouth for a few seconds it immediately begins

to fiz and expand, so I am thinking it starts acting in the stomach, as you said

below I think. ###

I took quite abit. What I would like to know is how you can say that

you put homozon together with a catalyst, the lemon juice, they meet in

the stomach where the reaction should then take place so how is it

oxygenating the bowel???? I have too strong an absorption within my

stomach it would seem so I should for sure have had some reaction to

this oxygenation.

### I have no idea why you didn't notice the oxygen boost. Sorry, I am

clueless here. ###

Homozon gave me extremely worrisome leg pain. I could

come up with good or bad explanations for that but since I do not KNOW,

I will not start a guessing game.

###Yeh, I don't know either. I can only guess that the magnesium

imbalanced your calcium???? Just guessing. Normally mag oxide is so poorly

absorbed that it doesn't have much of an effect on mineral levels, but perhaps

your leaky gut enable more to get into your system and so you might have needed

more calcium to go with it. ????#

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> And, on the leaky gut thing. I always tell people with leaky gut (when

they tell me they have that) that I would not do homozon without first doing

pure colostrum for a month. Pure colostrum restores the intestinal lining

faster than anything I have ever seen. It is even recommended by the AMA.

AMAzing. Smile.

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You are saying it does not start to catalyze until it gets into the

bowel, how do it know?

###Since I can feel it working in my mouth, then I would say it starts in

the stomach for those who keep it seperate until it hits the stomach. I mix it

with juice, so for me it starts in the glass. And It gets a little bubbly in

the glass if you let it sit a short time. I did that as an experiment some time

back. I didn't leave it long because I didn't want to waste it, so I don't know

how bubbly it would have gotten if left longer.###

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I will hope to see my leaky gut healed

by colostrum.

###I would say it is certainly worth a try, Deb. And it does have a money

back guarantee so it is no risk financially. I know what that whole leaky gut

thing feels like. I had it for years and didn't even know it and I felt like

such a freak. Things that made other people so happy and satisfied totally made

me ill. I felt like I lived in an alternate universe. And my diet just got

narrower and narrower and I wondered if I was just really mental, Smile. Then I

got some literature on leaky gut that was connected with colostrum and I knew

that, that was what was wrong with me food wise and I knew in my spirit that

colostrum would help me and I got on the internet, looking for some, since I was

in a small town where we were lucky if we could get toilet paper, smile. And I

learned about pure vs, not pure and was fortunate to find the best stuff right

from the start and had nothing less than a miraculous response. The leaky gut

thing passed really quickly and my energy level jumped hugely

The side benefit for me, being in my late forties at the time, was the

growth hormone. It did awesome age reversing things for me. Growing young is

way more fun than growing old. Seriously more fun. If someone told me I could

only have two supplements and all others would have to be removed. I would

choose colostrum and coral calcium

So, anyway, if you try it, please post and tell us what you notice. I

really pray it works for you Deb. I understand the suffering.

With much care,

Donna

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