Maple syrup and baking soda

March 27, 2008

Thank you for your insightful email.

**************

Create a Home

Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home.

(http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15 & amp;ncid=aolhom0\

0030000000001)

March 28, 2008

At 10:28 PM 3/27/2008, wrote:

>I still don't understand, if this is the case, how Dr Simoncini gets

>his results ...

,

We are discussing several related topics:

Use of sugar:

Sugar does have its uses in cancer therapy, but it is a technical

field. You have to really understand your strategy. It might be one

of including 2-deoxyglucose to thwart the cancer, or it could be one

of taking advantage of specific receptor sites in the use of various

glycosides. It is poor strategy to stake one's life on a folklore

tale such as the maple syrup legend.

Alkalinization:

This has its uses, but there is wide variation in the

strategies. There have been suspicions that sodium bicarbonate can

accelerate the growth of cancer. Boik removed this

alkalinization strategy from his book on natural cancer therapies

when he came out with a second edition. Alkalinization of tumors can

increase the effectiveness of some chemo agents due to ion trapping

of some weakly basic chemotherapies. Similarly, acidification of

tumors can enhance the uptake of weakly acidic chemotherapies. The

acid milieu of a tumor from lactate, sialate, etc. contributes to the

regional inhibition of immune function. Many cancer patients seem to

be quite acidic in several body compartments. This acidification

might contribute to cancer growth or it might be a result of cancer

growth, or both. Experimentation with alkalinization is not foolish,

but there are better ways of doing this than choosing sodium bases.

Route of administration:

Alkaline solutions have been used for intralesional and peritumoral

injections ever since the invention of the syringe. It is not just

bicarbonates and hydroxides, but there are thousands and thousands of

things you can inject into tumors and inhibit their growth and maybe

even kill them. They can be useful, but there is a fad quality to it

too. A while back it was urea and every one was injecting 15% urea,

then it was the injecting of hydrogen peroxide. There have been fans

of intratumoral injections of ethanol, of hot saline, of

bromopyruvate, and of various sclerosing agents. It might be harder

to find injectables that don't interfere with cancer growth.

Simoncini:

Dr. Simoncini is a clinician who subscribes to cancer etiologies and

treatments that are largely passed over by the mainstream. He is

probably telling the truth about the cases in which his strategies

have succeeded. I don't think he finds it very interesting to report

the cases that he loses. We need prospective studies, not more

best-case reporting. A cancer patient needs to have a rational basis

for selecting a therapy.

March 28, 2008

Most conventional treatments for cancer have

something in common with most alternative

treatments for cancer: their mediocrity. We

know why conventional medicine is mediocre. It

is because of indoctrination and entrainment by

the olde guarde, enforced compliance with the

dictates of the megapharm-government axis, and fear of liability.

But what makes alternative cancer treatments

mediocre? I see two main factors and each is a part of human nature:

1. Simplemindedness. We want fast answers that

we can understand even if they are wrong. We are

too quick to buy into any answer so we can get

back to the television. We have no patience for nuanced thoughts.

2. We like to form affinity groups around heros

with unconventional medical explanations.

Examples:

Hero Affinity Group

Thomson Thomsonian Botanic Physicians

Hahnemann Homeopathy

Baker Eddy Christian Science

L. Ron Hubbard Scientology

Edgar

Cayce Association for Research and Enlightenment

Rudolf Steiner Anthroposophical Medicine

Johanna Budwig Flax oil cottage cheese believers

Otto Warburg The oxygen therapy crowd

Linus ing The Vitamin C crowd

AbulKalam Shamsuddin The IP-6 followers

F. Koch The glyoxylide group

Manju Ray The methylglyoxal believers

Lane The shark cartilage users

of God The pilgrims in white

Tullio Simoncini The bicarbonate-candida group

Brewer The cesium believers

Harvey Kellogg The colon detoxers

Harry Hoxsey The salves and tonics

Rene Caisse The Essiac tea believers

Hulda The liver parasite zappers

Harold Manner The laetrile believers

Beard// The proteolytic enzyme believers

Virginia Livingston The bacterial origin believers

Royal

Rife The

Rife device inventors and followers

Hudson The ormus alchemists

Nikolay Shevchenko The Vodka and oil drinkers

Emanuel Revici Eponymous followers

Günther Enderlein Sanum therapy subscribers

Gaston Naessens The 714-X generation

Harve Kaufman Zeolite MLMers

Rudolf Breuss Root juice dieters

Aajanus Vonderplanitz Raw meat dieters

Michio Kushi Macrobiotic dieters

Malkmus Hallelujah dieters

Cornelis Moerman Citrus Dieters

Joe Hart Oxalic Acid eaters

Bjorn

Nordenstrom

Electrical fields and tumor electrocutors

....and many, many more. In most cases the cancer

hero developed a theory and then formulated a

cure or treatment. Every single hero has a great

story as to how they developed their cancer

theory and their subsequent treatment

strategy. There is always some truth to their

teaching and there always seems to be a coterie

of devout and pious fundamentalist

devotees. Each therapy seems to attract

adherents for which it is a perfect fit. The

faithful should no more be denied their right to

practice their medical belief than we would deny

one the right to practice their religious faith.

There is no question that some of these therapies

are better than others. As long as the

government stays out of the picture, the cream will rise to the top.

At 12:40 PM 3/28/2008, you wrote:

>VGammill wrote:

>Dr. Simoncini is a clinician who subscribes to cancer etiologies and

>treatments that are largely passed over by the mainstream. He is

>probably telling the truth about the cases in which his strategies

>have succeeded. I don't think he finds it very interesting to report

>the cases that he loses. We need prospective studies, not more

>best-case reporting. A cancer patient needs to have a rational basis

>for selecting a therapy.

> >

>

>Please forgive my ignorance, but aren't most

>alternative treatments largely (or totally)

>passed over by the mainstream? I thought that's

>what this list was for ... and, indeed, natural

>oncology? I'm not trying to be argumentative ... just trying to understand.

>

>xxo

>

July 7, 2010

I know this is a long post, but to understand how I got to where I am, you

really need this cliff notes history.

I have Celiac's disease which was not diagnosed until in my 50's. I realized I

had a sensitivity to wheat in my 30's but didn't make the gluten connection

until recently.

If you're unfamiliar with Celiac's, it's an auto-immune condition in which

exposure to gluten damages the lining of the intestine. Over time the

compromised digestive tract leads to all sorts of other problems . . .

nutritional deficiency and parasite and fungus invasion being the big three.

I have been fighting crappy health and losing (getting worse) for a long time.

Each year I got unhealthier and did less. It was like watching my mom's life.

She got heavier and heavier before she died of colo-rectal cancer at 54. I was

SO looking like I was following her path and desperately needed to put on the

brakes.

I'd been to doctors and had gotten no help and no answers. Virginia Mason's

doctors were kind enough to tell me I should see a psychologist. The last

naturopath I went to was no better.

I found a CNT who was able to give me some answers. I was so badly infested I

had more parasites in my blood stream than white blood cells. Don't believe me?

I have a video of my blood through a dark field microscope. It was beyond

gross. In a drop of blood smaller than the head of a pin I had five parasite

bodies (2 different types). Do the math. Millions of parasites just in my

blood. With her help I killed the parasites.

Now I had dead parasite bodies that were clogging everything including my lymph

glands. I took a course of apple cider vinegar to dissolve the parasite bodies.

Then I did a course of colon cleansing (Dr. Natura's Colonix and Toxinout - both

great products, and Amagram's fungus cleanse - helpful but not a silver bullet).

I was lots healthier, but I was still stuck with fungus. I'd moderated my diet

- no sugar, no fruit but was treading water. The fungus had taken over. My

scalp itched, my ears ran, I had fungus between my toes.

Because of the history of parasites and my mom's cancer and 10 years of

" camping " (a whole 'nother story), I started taking MMS

(www.miraclemineral.org). It helped a lot but did little for the fungus in my

scalp and ears and feet. It did help clean up the mess left by the parasites and

did a great job cleaning my blood and generally improving my health. Kudos to

Jim Humble for his sharing.

So here I was, healthier but still with fungus. Everything I was doing was like

trying to put out a brush fire with a garden hose, not very effective.

A chance post on the MMS list led me to try maple syrup and baking soda. The

post told of a doctor who had five sisters as patients, four of whom died of

breast cancer. The surviving sister liked drinking water with maple syrup and

baking soda. Based on his research he developed a protocol for using the mix.

According to the proffered instructions I heated the mix on the stove for 5

minutes. When it had cooled sufficiently I took a teaspoon. If you've ever

taken medicine that was wickedly hard to keep taking after the first dose, this

was it. It's awful. It's sticky and tastes terrible. There is no such thing

as swallowing it quickly. Yuck.

I finished the small batch I'd made (3 tbsp maple syrup to 1 tbsp baking soda)

and it made such an enormous difference in how I felt I knew I had to find a way

to make it easier to take. I made it into hard candy (cooked longer) and formed

it into small caplet shaped doses.

I have had some horrible cleansing symptoms but it has been worth every blister

and rash. My scalp no longer itches. My ears do not run. I have no fungus

between my toes. After just three weeks the difference is beyond amazing.

I am still taking it and I've started my husband taking it (diverticulitis -

www.elfnori.com/Colonix). I've made up batches for my best friend and her

daughter. I'm sending some to my sister and to my brother and his wife and my

son and his SO.

I have taken it five times a day and that's a pretty intense cleansing, doable

but not real comfortable. I have taken it twice a day and that seems to be a

maintenance dose for the amount of fungus in my system.

Three times a day (first thing in the morning, last thing at night and right

before lunch) seems to be the perfect dosing for me. That amount seems to

continuing the cleansing without making it so intense I notice. As with

everything, your mileage may vary.

So here I am, getting my life back. My brain works awesomely well. Between the

MMS and the maple syrup/baking soda, I no longer live in a fog. Things that

have been bothering me for years are finally healing. I seldom have numb

fingers anymore (pinched nerve from disintegrating vertebrae and enlarged lymph

gland). The ankle I ruined in '83 is finally healing. I'm walking over rough

ground without being totally lame afterward.

I hope my experience helps you.

Nori

July 9, 2010

Wow, what a great post! Interesting, I will try it and let you know how

it goes. Always learning! Do you take LDN (Low Dose Naltrexone) for any of

this? That has helped me so much, but only went so far. Now, I have to

address the candida.

And I can relate to not liking a drink after taking it the first time.

Apple Cider Vinegar! Any suggestions on disguising that flavor? I am

following it with milk to help get rid of the taste. And I pour it before I

drink the Apple Cider Vinegar.

Best wishes in your journey!

Glowing,

grace~

July 9, 2010

I've heard people dilute apple cider vinegar in a glass of water and add some

honey . . . I always just drank it straight and then chugged something else to

dilute the taste.

Low Dose Naltrexone? What's that?

I made another batch today and took pictures . . . the sizes aren't as uniform

as the last batch. Pausing to take pictures allowed it to cool before I could

get it fully shaped. You have to work fast!

N

Re:Maple syrup and baking soda

Wow, what a great post! Interesting, I will try it and let you know how it

goes. Always learning! Do you take LDN (Low Dose Naltrexone) for any of this?

That has helped me so much, but only went so far. Now, I have to address the

candida.

And I can relate to not liking a drink after taking it the first time. Apple

Cider Vinegar! Any suggestions on disguising that flavor? I am following it

with milk to help get rid of the taste. And I pour it before I drink the Apple

Cider Vinegar.

Best wishes in your journey!

Glowing,

grace~

July 10, 2010

You know what Grace? I too have just started the Apple Cider Vinegar

and I just use (measure) 2 tsp of it with a cup or so of water and I've

noticed the more I do it the easier it gets.In fact I'm starting to kind of

like it a little but maybe it's just me being weird.

But you said you chase it down with milk---you don't mean cow's milk now do

you? Because that stuff turns into sugar in your system.. Unsweetened

almond, rice or soy is fine--forgive me if you already know this.

Diane

July 10, 2010

A lot of people would say the honey is forbidden!! It's the same as any

kind of sugar---however--I was reading a raw food site the other day and the

raw fooders believe it IS ok(on a candidia diet)---so I dunno. To be

on the safe side, I'd just learn to chug it down straight. It isn't so bad

after a few times.

Diane

July 10, 2010

Yes me too, I read an article about raw, unpasteurized honey and they said it

didnt feed the candidas, again it's the same thing all the time there are ALWAYS

opposite thoughts about everything, that's what's driving me mad.

here is an explanation

" Raw honey does NOT feed candida, as the previous poster (the post

below/ANSWER1) thinks. RAW honey (and not just raw, but UNheated and UNfiltered

honey -- make sure it says that on the honey) is an INVERT sugar. And invert

sugars do not ferment in the stomach/intestines.

If you are worried about the sugars that feed candida then look no further than

GRAINS. Grains (starches) such as wheat, buckwheat, oats, rice, whole grains,

etc. break down into pure glucose and feed candida more than anything else. I

would strongly suggest that you stay away from grains (especially anything made

with wheat: pasta, pizza, bread). A little white rice is acceptable, but

otherwise stay away from grains and starchy vegetables such as potatoes.

Even fruits feed candida more than raw (UNheated) honey, because the sugar in

fruits in NOT inverted. Limit your fruit consumption to NON-sweet fruits ONLY

(NON-sweet fruits are berries, cucumbers, zucchini, bell peppers, avocado - and

to a certain extent papaya and grapefruit are also low sugar fruits).

Sweet fruits (such as bananas, oranges, pineapple, mangoes, apples, pears,

plums, melons) are nothing but sugary water and vitamins -- and unfortunately,

because they contain so much sugar, they LEECH almost as much vitamins/minerals

from the body as they provide. So if you want to starve off Candida, I suggest

you COMPLETELY stay away from sweet fruits (which are basically the majoirty of

fruits found in a common supermarket).

On the other hand, the things that kill candida and give you energy, health,

longevity, well-being are Saturated FATS (yes, Saturated fats, which the current

medical dogma view as harmful). Do your own resarch, and you will realize that

the healthiest tribes and populations in the world (the masai, the inuit, etc.)

who had no heart diseases, no cancers, ate a diet where the majority of calories

came from ANIMAL fat. Current agriculture wants you to believe that oils such as

sunflower oils, flax seed oils and other plant oils are healthy: nothing could

be furhter from the truth. Polyunsaturated oils, especially omega-6 (those found

in plants) oxidize already at body temperature. This oxidation/peroxidation

creates free radicals and harms your arteries, heart, brain. Be careful about

ANY vegetable oil, and never, ever cook in any oil that has a high ratio of

polyunsaturated fatty acids. The only vegetables oil I recommend are COCONUT oil

(VERY high in those health SATURATED fats) and palm oil. Otherwise you can use

butter or ghee for cooking.

Coconut oil in itself (get the organic, raw, VIRGIN coconut oil) is great at

killing candida, because it has anti-fungi and anti-bacterial properties. Take 2

tablespoons each day in the morning. Along with that, your diet should be

meat/fish/vegetables/raw honey/NON-sweet fruit. I don't recommend nuts/seeds

since they contain starches and feed candida. "

________________________________

From: " elwynevenstar@... " <elwynevenstar@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 11:33:57 AM

Subject: Re: Maple syrup and baking soda

A lot of people would say the honey is forbidden!! It's the same as any

kind of sugar---however--I was reading a raw food site the other day and the

raw fooders believe it IS ok(on a candidia diet)---so I dunno. To be

on the safe side, I'd just learn to chug it down straight. It isn't so bad

after a few times.

Diane

July 10, 2010

Hi there,

thanks for the post, interesting. Do you have systemic candida? doesn't the

maple syrup feed the candida? is there a source where I could learn more about

this mixture and where it works?

Thanks!

Jess-Anne

>

> I know this is a long post, but to understand how I got to where I am, you

really need this cliff notes history.

>

> I have Celiac's disease which was not diagnosed until in my 50's. I realized

I had a sensitivity to wheat in my 30's but didn't make the gluten connection

until recently.

>

> If you're unfamiliar with Celiac's, it's an auto-immune condition in which

exposure to gluten damages the lining of the intestine. Over time the

compromised digestive tract leads to all sorts of other problems . . .

nutritional deficiency and parasite and fungus invasion being the big three.

>

> I have been fighting crappy health and losing (getting worse) for a long time.

Each year I got unhealthier and did less. It was like watching my mom's life.

She got heavier and heavier before she died of colo-rectal cancer at 54. I was

SO looking like I was following her path and desperately needed to put on the

brakes.

>

> I'd been to doctors and had gotten no help and no answers. Virginia Mason's

doctors were kind enough to tell me I should see a psychologist. The last

naturopath I went to was no better.

>

> I found a CNT who was able to give me some answers. I was so badly infested I

had more parasites in my blood stream than white blood cells. Don't believe me?

I have a video of my blood through a dark field microscope. It was beyond

gross. In a drop of blood smaller than the head of a pin I had five parasite

bodies (2 different types). Do the math. Millions of parasites just in my

blood. With her help I killed the parasites.

>

> Now I had dead parasite bodies that were clogging everything including my

lymph glands. I took a course of apple cider vinegar to dissolve the parasite

bodies.

>

> Then I did a course of colon cleansing (Dr. Natura's Colonix and Toxinout -

both great products, and Amagram's fungus cleanse - helpful but not a silver

bullet).

>

> I was lots healthier, but I was still stuck with fungus. I'd moderated my

diet - no sugar, no fruit but was treading water. The fungus had taken over.

My scalp itched, my ears ran, I had fungus between my toes.

>

> Because of the history of parasites and my mom's cancer and 10 years of

" camping " (a whole 'nother story), I started taking MMS

(www.miraclemineral.org). It helped a lot but did little for the fungus in my

scalp and ears and feet. It did help clean up the mess left by the parasites and

did a great job cleaning my blood and generally improving my health. Kudos to

Jim Humble for his sharing.

>

> So here I was, healthier but still with fungus. Everything I was doing was

like trying to put out a brush fire with a garden hose, not very effective.

>

> A chance post on the MMS list led me to try maple syrup and baking soda. The

post told of a doctor who had five sisters as patients, four of whom died of

breast cancer. The surviving sister liked drinking water with maple syrup and

baking soda. Based on his research he developed a protocol for using the mix.

>

> According to the proffered instructions I heated the mix on the stove for 5

minutes. When it had cooled sufficiently I took a teaspoon. If you've ever

taken medicine that was wickedly hard to keep taking after the first dose, this

was it. It's awful. It's sticky and tastes terrible. There is no such thing

as swallowing it quickly. Yuck.

>

> I finished the small batch I'd made (3 tbsp maple syrup to 1 tbsp baking soda)

and it made such an enormous difference in how I felt I knew I had to find a way

to make it easier to take. I made it into hard candy (cooked longer) and formed

it into small caplet shaped doses.

>

> I have had some horrible cleansing symptoms but it has been worth every

blister and rash. My scalp no longer itches. My ears do not run. I have no

fungus between my toes. After just three weeks the difference is beyond

amazing.

>

> I am still taking it and I've started my husband taking it (diverticulitis -

www.elfnori.com/Colonix). I've made up batches for my best friend and her

daughter. I'm sending some to my sister and to my brother and his wife and my

son and his SO.

>

> I have taken it five times a day and that's a pretty intense cleansing, doable

but not real comfortable. I have taken it twice a day and that seems to be a

maintenance dose for the amount of fungus in my system.

>

> Three times a day (first thing in the morning, last thing at night and right

before going to bed) seems to be the perfect dosing for me. That amount seems

to continuing the cleansing without making it so intense I notice. As with

everything, your mileage may vary.

>

> So here I am, getting my life back. My brain works awesomely well. Between

the MMS and the maple syrup/baking soda, I no longer live in a fog. Things that

have been bothering me for years are finally healing. I seldom have numb

fingers anymore (pinched nerve from disintegrating vertebrae and enlarged lymph

gland). The ankle I ruined in '83 is finally healing. I'm walking over rough

ground without being totally lame afterward.

>

> I hope my experience helps you.

>

> Nori

>

July 11, 2010

Greetings

I think it is a thought that the good that is in maple syrup would out weigh the

bad that it could do if, you are doing it within a recovery program like the

master cleanse.

> >

> > I know this is a long post, but to understand how I got to where I am, you

really need this cliff notes history.

> >

> > I have Celiac's disease which was not diagnosed until in my 50's. I

realized I had a sensitivity to wheat in my 30's but didn't make the gluten

connection until recently.

> >

> > If you're unfamiliar with Celiac's, it's an auto-immune condition in which

exposure to gluten damages the lining of the intestine. Over time the

compromised digestive tract leads to all sorts of other problems . . .

nutritional deficiency and parasite and fungus invasion being the big three.

> >

> > I have been fighting crappy health and losing (getting worse) for a long

time. Each year I got unhealthier and did less. It was like watching my mom's

life. She got heavier and heavier before she died of colo-rectal cancer at 54.

I was SO looking like I was following her path and desperately needed to put on

the brakes.

> >

> > I'd been to doctors and had gotten no help and no answers. Virginia Mason's

doctors were kind enough to tell me I should see a psychologist. The last

naturopath I went to was no better.

> >

> > I found a CNT who was able to give me some answers. I was so badly infested

I had more parasites in my blood stream than white blood cells. Don't believe

me? I have a video of my blood through a dark field microscope. It was beyond

gross. In a drop of blood smaller than the head of a pin I had five parasite

bodies (2 different types). Do the math. Millions of parasites just in my

blood. With her help I killed the parasites.

> >

> > Now I had dead parasite bodies that were clogging everything including my

lymph glands. I took a course of apple cider vinegar to dissolve the parasite

bodies.

> >

> > Then I did a course of colon cleansing (Dr. Natura's Colonix and Toxinout -

both great products, and Amagram's fungus cleanse - helpful but not a silver

bullet).

> >

> > I was lots healthier, but I was still stuck with fungus. I'd moderated my

diet - no sugar, no fruit but was treading water. The fungus had taken over.

My scalp itched, my ears ran, I had fungus between my toes.

> >

> > Because of the history of parasites and my mom's cancer and 10 years of

" camping " (a whole 'nother story), I started taking MMS

(www.miraclemineral.org). It helped a lot but did little for the fungus in my

scalp and ears and feet. It did help clean up the mess left by the parasites and

did a great job cleaning my blood and generally improving my health. Kudos to

Jim Humble for his sharing.

> >

> > So here I was, healthier but still with fungus. Everything I was doing was

like trying to put out a brush fire with a garden hose, not very effective.

> >

> > A chance post on the MMS list led me to try maple syrup and baking soda.

The post told of a doctor who had five sisters as patients, four of whom died of

breast cancer. The surviving sister liked drinking water with maple syrup and

baking soda. Based on his research he developed a protocol for using the mix.

> >

> > According to the proffered instructions I heated the mix on the stove for 5

minutes. When it had cooled sufficiently I took a teaspoon. If you've ever

taken medicine that was wickedly hard to keep taking after the first dose, this

was it. It's awful. It's sticky and tastes terrible. There is no such thing

as swallowing it quickly. Yuck.

> >

> > I finished the small batch I'd made (3 tbsp maple syrup to 1 tbsp baking

soda) and it made such an enormous difference in how I felt I knew I had to find

a way to make it easier to take. I made it into hard candy (cooked longer) and

formed it into small caplet shaped doses.

> >

> > I have had some horrible cleansing symptoms but it has been worth every

blister and rash. My scalp no longer itches. My ears do not run. I have no

fungus between my toes. After just three weeks the difference is beyond

amazing.

> >

> > I am still taking it and I've started my husband taking it (diverticulitis -

www.elfnori.com/Colonix). I've made up batches for my best friend and her

daughter. I'm sending some to my sister and to my brother and his wife and my

son and his SO.

> >

> > I have taken it five times a day and that's a pretty intense cleansing,

doable but not real comfortable. I have taken it twice a day and that seems to

be a maintenance dose for the amount of fungus in my system.

> >

> > Three times a day (first thing in the morning, last thing at night and right

before going to bed) seems to be the perfect dosing for me. That amount seems

to continuing the cleansing without making it so intense I notice. As with

everything, your mileage may vary.

> >

> > So here I am, getting my life back. My brain works awesomely well. Between

the MMS and the maple syrup/baking soda, I no longer live in a fog. Things that

have been bothering me for years are finally healing. I seldom have numb

fingers anymore (pinched nerve from disintegrating vertebrae and enlarged lymph

gland). The ankle I ruined in '83 is finally healing. I'm walking over rough

ground without being totally lame afterward.

> >

> > I hope my experience helps you.

> >

> > Nori

> >

>

July 11, 2010

Good for you!!! I miss mine when I do not do it. I have been so good with a

mid day drink with the ACV...it is a pick me up!

>

> You know what Grace? I too have just started the Apple Cider Vinegar

> and I just use (measure) 2 tsp of it with a cup or so of water and I've

> noticed the more I do it the easier it gets.In fact I'm starting to kind of

> like it a little but maybe it's just me being weird.

> But you said you chase it down with milk---you don't mean cow's milk now do

> you? Because that stuff turns into sugar in your system.. Unsweetened

> almond, rice or soy is fine--forgive me if you already know this.

> Diane

>

July 11, 2010

Caroline---------------Wow!! So you don't think that olive oil for

cooking and salads is ok at all?

That blows my whole plan here ( actually it's still in the development

stage and I do have lots of coconut oil)---But coconut oil would be lousy as

a salad dressing I'll bet. Right now I'm using Bragg's and olive oil.

Also what you said about saturated fats is very mind blowing--at least to

me.

You said a little white rice is ok. That is the first time in years I've

heard anyone say this---the only other time was a Chinese lady who was

pushing Chinese products. She said white rice was fine for candida because

brown rice is too starchy. But I've always read otherwise that only brown

organically grown rice is good and of course now alot of people are say no

grains at all including any kind of rice.

And I am a vegetarian which also complicates trying to establish a dietary

plan with this news about saturated fats.

I really do relate to your feelings about opposite thoughts....I forget the

quote.....but it does leave you extremely frustrated when trying to figure

out what is right and when you are on a budget you don't want to go out

and buy the wrong groceries just to come home and learn that you just blew

$50 bucks--according to one group of people.

Diane

July 11, 2010

I am totally confused as to how the maple syrup could have helped if you

have candidiasis. You said 'fungas' but did not specify as to what kind you

are referring to. If it was candida, maple syrup is sooo sugary it should

have made things worse...not better. I mean I'm happy for you, but don't

understand the connection.

Diane

July 11, 2010

i dont know I just copied sthg I'd read but olive oil is good, it is not a

polyinsaturated oil so no problem, the ones to avoid are sunflower oils

apparently and that i'd heard before so I think it's " true " if i can say so..

________________________________

From: " elwynevenstar@... " <elwynevenstar@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sun, July 11, 2010 5:52:14 PM

Subject: Re: Maple syrup and baking soda

Caroline---------------Wow!! So you don't think that olive oil for

cooking and salads is ok at all?

That blows my whole plan here ( actually it's still in the development

stage and I do have lots of coconut oil)---But coconut oil would be lousy as

a salad dressing I'll bet. Right now I'm using Bragg's and olive oil.

Also what you said about saturated fats is very mind blowing--at least to

me.

You said a little white rice is ok. That is the first time in years I've

heard anyone say this---the only other time was a Chinese lady who was

pushing Chinese products. She said white rice was fine for candida because

brown rice is too starchy. But I've always read otherwise that only brown

organically grown rice is good and of course now alot of people are say no

grains at all including any kind of rice.

And I am a vegetarian which also complicates trying to establish a dietary

plan with this news about saturated fats.

I really do relate to your feelings about opposite thoughts....I forget the

quote.....but it does leave you extremely frustrated when trying to figure

out what is right and when you are on a budget you don't want to go out

and buy the wrong groceries just to come home and learn that you just blew

$50 bucks--according to one group of people.

Diane

July 11, 2010

Caroline----Re what you said about no grains and nuts: How do you feel

about sprouted grains? They're not really quite the same thing, right? ---or

that is the effect would be different--I'm interested in hearing your

opinion on those. Also I have always heard that almonds are a benign &

healthy nut to have on a diet designed to kill candida. Not sure about

walnuts

though. The hull is definitely used in concoctions for killing parasites

but not sure about eating the entire nut. Would like to hear what others

have to say about this as well. Thanx,

Diane

July 12, 2010

Hi All,

I was so interested in the Maple syrup/baking soda mix...for the past three

weeks, I have been doing a gentle liver flush consisting of the juice of one

grapefruit, juice of one lemon and 2Tbs olive oil first thing in the morning,

every day. I immediately experienced loss of that terrible bloating feeling and

so I kept on. After the three weeks, I began to have pretty severe anxiety/panic

attacks, which I think may be due to die-off. This is so hard to take, I decided

to quit the cleanse for the time being. I immediately began to feel better, but

knew I still had work to do...

Next day, I came across your maple syrup mix, and made some right away. Took two

doses yesterday, and today woke up with lots of anxiety again. It is terrible. I

would not wish this on my worst enemy...

Is this just die-off? I have to tell you - this is so hard to take for me...I

need some hope that if I continue with this regimen that the anxiety will start

to ease up.

I am eating good - lots of vegetables and vegetable juices - little fruit, just

enough protein (mostly turkey burgers) so I feel fed...lots of water with lemon.

Does anyone have advice? I am so distraught I am thinking that I may need to ask

my doc for some anxiety meds if I continue with this alkalinizing

process...would that be a bad thing? I don't think the doc will understand if I

explain what I am doing...

Please - any help would be so appreciated...

Jo

> > >

> > > I know this is a long post, but to understand how I got to where I am, you

really need this cliff notes history.

> > >

> > > I have Celiac's disease which was not diagnosed until in my 50's. I

realized I had a sensitivity to wheat in my 30's but didn't make the gluten

connection until recently.

> > >

> > > If you're unfamiliar with Celiac's, it's an auto-immune condition in which

exposure to gluten damages the lining of the intestine. Over time the

compromised digestive tract leads to all sorts of other problems . . .

nutritional deficiency and parasite and fungus invasion being the big three.

> > >

> > > I have been fighting crappy health and losing (getting worse) for a long

time. Each year I got unhealthier and did less. It was like watching my mom's

life. She got heavier and heavier before she died of colo-rectal cancer at 54.

I was SO looking like I was following her path and desperately needed to put on

the brakes.

> > >

> > > I'd been to doctors and had gotten no help and no answers. Virginia

Mason's doctors were kind enough to tell me I should see a psychologist. The

last naturopath I went to was no better.

> > >

> > > I found a CNT who was able to give me some answers. I was so badly

infested I had more parasites in my blood stream than white blood cells. Don't

believe me? I have a video of my blood through a dark field microscope. It was

beyond gross. In a drop of blood smaller than the head of a pin I had five

parasite bodies (2 different types). Do the math. Millions of parasites just

in my blood. With her help I killed the parasites.

> > >

> > > Now I had dead parasite bodies that were clogging everything including my

lymph glands. I took a course of apple cider vinegar to dissolve the parasite

bodies.

> > >

> > > Then I did a course of colon cleansing (Dr. Natura's Colonix and Toxinout

- both great products, and Amagram's fungus cleanse - helpful but not a silver

bullet).

> > >

> > > I was lots healthier, but I was still stuck with fungus. I'd moderated my

diet - no sugar, no fruit but was treading water. The fungus had taken over.

My scalp itched, my ears ran, I had fungus between my toes.

> > >

> > > Because of the history of parasites and my mom's cancer and 10 years of

" camping " (a whole 'nother story), I started taking MMS

(www.miraclemineral.org). It helped a lot but did little for the fungus in my

scalp and ears and feet. It did help clean up the mess left by the parasites and

did a great job cleaning my blood and generally improving my health. Kudos to

Jim Humble for his sharing.

> > >

> > > So here I was, healthier but still with fungus. Everything I was doing

was like trying to put out a brush fire with a garden hose, not very effective.

> > >

> > > A chance post on the MMS list led me to try maple syrup and baking soda.

The post told of a doctor who had five sisters as patients, four of whom died of

breast cancer. The surviving sister liked drinking water with maple syrup and

baking soda. Based on his research he developed a protocol for using the mix.

> > >

> > > According to the proffered instructions I heated the mix on the stove for

5 minutes. When it had cooled sufficiently I took a teaspoon. If you've ever

taken medicine that was wickedly hard to keep taking after the first dose, this

was it. It's awful. It's sticky and tastes terrible. There is no such thing

as swallowing it quickly. Yuck.

> > >

> > > I finished the small batch I'd made (3 tbsp maple syrup to 1 tbsp baking

soda) and it made such an enormous difference in how I felt I knew I had to find

a way to make it easier to take. I made it into hard candy (cooked longer) and

formed it into small caplet shaped doses.

> > >

> > > I have had some horrible cleansing symptoms but it has been worth every

blister and rash. My scalp no longer itches. My ears do not run. I have no

fungus between my toes. After just three weeks the difference is beyond

amazing.

> > >

> > > I am still taking it and I've started my husband taking it (diverticulitis

- www.elfnori.com/Colonix). I've made up batches for my best friend and her

daughter. I'm sending some to my sister and to my brother and his wife and my

son and his SO.

> > >

> > > I have taken it five times a day and that's a pretty intense cleansing,

doable but not real comfortable. I have taken it twice a day and that seems to

be a maintenance dose for the amount of fungus in my system.

> > >

> > > Three times a day (first thing in the morning, last thing at night and

right before going to bed) seems to be the perfect dosing for me. That amount

seems to continuing the cleansing without making it so intense I notice. As

with everything, your mileage may vary.

> > >

> > > So here I am, getting my life back. My brain works awesomely well.

Between the MMS and the maple syrup/baking soda, I no longer live in a fog.

Things that have been bothering me for years are finally healing. I seldom have

numb fingers anymore (pinched nerve from disintegrating vertebrae and enlarged

lymph gland). The ankle I ruined in '83 is finally healing. I'm walking over

rough ground without being totally lame afterward.

> > >

> > > I hope my experience helps you.

> > >

> > > Nori

> > >

> >

>

July 12, 2010

hello!

that liver flush sounds interesting, I think I'll try that!

I think what you are experiencing could be " retracing " , dont know what the other

think. I have heard that when we heal from an illness, we have retracing

symptoms, meaning that we tend to re live symptoms we had before, did you have

anxiety before? I'm not sure, just a thought.

I wouldnt recommend medication for it now you are cleansing your body, it'd be

like going back to square 1; they are bad to the liver etc.. I would recommend

some gentle herbe or sthg, maybe Wil could help us with this?

Good luck to you! have you tried doing some EFT for your anxiety?

caroline.

________________________________

From: pilgrim_MJ <pilgrim_mj@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 3:30:50 PM

Subject: Re: Maple syrup and baking soda

Hi All,

I was so interested in the Maple syrup/baking soda mix...for the past three

weeks, I have been doing a gentle liver flush consisting of the juice of one

grapefruit, juice of one lemon and 2Tbs olive oil first thing in the morning,

every day. I immediately experienced loss of that terrible bloating feeling and

so I kept on. After the three weeks, I began to have pretty severe anxiety/panic

attacks, which I think may be due to die-off. This is so hard to take, I decided

to quit the cleanse for the time being. I immediately began to feel better, but

knew I still had work to do...

Next day, I came across your maple syrup mix, and made some right away. Took two

doses yesterday, and today woke up with lots of anxiety again. It is terrible. I

would not wish this on my worst enemy...

Is this just die-off? I have to tell you - this is so hard to take for me...I

need some hope that if I continue with this regimen that the anxiety will start

to ease up.

I am eating good - lots of vegetables and vegetable juices - little fruit, just

enough protein (mostly turkey burgers) so I feel fed...lots of water with lemon.

Does anyone have advice? I am so distraught I am thinking that I may need to ask

my doc for some anxiety meds if I continue with this alkalinizing

process...would that be a bad thing? I don't think the doc will understand if I

explain what I am doing...

Please - any help would be so appreciated...

Jo

> > >

> > > I know this is a long post, but to understand how I got to where I am, you

>really need this cliff notes history.

> > >

> > > I have Celiac's disease which was not diagnosed until in my 50's. I

>realized I had a sensitivity to wheat in my 30's but didn't make the gluten

>connection until recently.

>

> > >

> > > If you're unfamiliar with Celiac's, it's an auto-immune condition in which

>exposure to gluten damages the lining of the intestine. Over time the

>compromised digestive tract leads to all sorts of other problems . . .

>nutritional deficiency and parasite and fungus invasion being the big three.

> > >

> > > I have been fighting crappy health and losing (getting worse) for a long

>time. Each year I got unhealthier and did less. It was like watching my mom's

>life. She got heavier and heavier before she died of colo-rectal cancer at 54.

>I was SO looking like I was following her path and desperately needed to put on

>the brakes.

> > >

> > > I'd been to doctors and had gotten no help and no answers. Virginia

>Mason's doctors were kind enough to tell me I should see a psychologist. The

>last naturopath I went to was no better.

> > >

> > > I found a CNT who was able to give me some answers. I was so badly

>infested I had more parasites in my blood stream than white blood cells. Don't

>believe me? I have a video of my blood through a dark field microscope. It

was

>beyond gross. In a drop of blood smaller than the head of a pin I had five

>parasite bodies (2 different types). Do the math. Millions of parasites just

>in my blood. With her help I killed the parasites.

> > >

> > > Now I had dead parasite bodies that were clogging everything including my

>lymph glands. I took a course of apple cider vinegar to dissolve the parasite

>bodies.

> > >

> > > Then I did a course of colon cleansing (Dr. Natura's Colonix and Toxinout

-

>both great products, and Amagram's fungus cleanse - helpful but not a silver

>bullet).

> > >

> > > I was lots healthier, but I was still stuck with fungus. I'd moderated my

>diet - no sugar, no fruit but was treading water. The fungus had taken over.

>My scalp itched, my ears ran, I had fungus between my toes.

> > >

> > > Because of the history of parasites and my mom's cancer and 10 years of

> " camping " (a whole 'nother story), I started taking MMS

>(www.miraclemineral.org). It helped a lot but did little for the fungus in my

>scalp and ears and feet. It did help clean up the mess left by the parasites

and

>did a great job cleaning my blood and generally improving my health. Kudos to

>Jim Humble for his sharing.

> > >

> > > So here I was, healthier but still with fungus. Everything I was doing

was

>like trying to put out a brush fire with a garden hose, not very effective.

> > >

> > > A chance post on the MMS list led me to try maple syrup and baking soda.

>The post told of a doctor who had five sisters as patients, four of whom died

of

>breast cancer. The surviving sister liked drinking water with maple syrup and

>baking soda. Based on his research he developed a protocol for using the mix.

> > >

> > > According to the proffered instructions I heated the mix on the stove for

>5 minutes. When it had cooled sufficiently I took a teaspoon. If you've ever

>taken medicine that was wickedly hard to keep taking after the first dose, this

>was it. It's awful. It's sticky and tastes terrible. There is no such thing

>as swallowing it quickly. Yuck.

>

> > >

> > > I finished the small batch I'd made (3 tbsp maple syrup to 1 tbsp baking

>soda) and it made such an enormous difference in how I felt I knew I had to

find

>a way to make it easier to take. I made it into hard candy (cooked longer) and

>formed it into small caplet shaped doses.

> > >

> > > I have had some horrible cleansing symptoms but it has been worth every

>blister and rash. My scalp no longer itches. My ears do not run. I have no

>fungus between my toes. After just three weeks the difference is beyond

>amazing.

> > >

> > > I am still taking it and I've started my husband taking it (diverticulitis

>- www.elfnori.com/Colonix). I've made up batches for my best friend and her

>daughter. I'm sending some to my sister and to my brother and his wife and my

>son and his SO.

> > >

> > > I have taken it five times a day and that's a pretty intense cleansing,

>doable but not real comfortable. I have taken it twice a day and that seems to

>be a maintenance dose for the amount of fungus in my system.

>

> > >

> > > Three times a day (first thing in the morning, last thing at night and

>right before going to bed) seems to be the perfect dosing for me. That amount

>seems to continuing the cleansing without making it so intense I notice. As

>with everything, your mileage may vary.

> > >

> > > So here I am, getting my life back. My brain works awesomely well.

>Between the MMS and the maple syrup/baking soda, I no longer live in a fog.

>Things that have been bothering me for years are finally healing. I seldom

have

>numb fingers anymore (pinched nerve from disintegrating vertebrae and enlarged

>lymph gland). The ankle I ruined in '83 is finally healing. I'm walking over

>rough ground without being totally lame afterward.

> > >

> > > I hope my experience helps you.

> > >

> > > Nori

> > >

> >

>

July 12, 2010

Hello Diane!

Well I'm really not an expert and the article I mentionned was not from me, it

was sthg I'd read.

Now what I read a lot and it really helps a lot of people is a high fat diet,

meaning a lot of fats esp saturated fats like coconut oil and raw milk butter

and then olive oil.

It's always preferable to eat free range chicken/eggs, organic meat (grass fed),

wild fish and not farmed etc

Limit or avoid completely fruits and starchy veggies.

Limit or avoid legumes and grains.

Avoid pistacchios and peanuts.

avoid dairies except raw milk butter

Now that is not what I personnaly follow! That is just what I heard is best for

someone's health, even if we dont have candida.

Personnaly, I still eat fruits: apples, strawberries, lemons and grapefruits, I

avoid mango, bananas, grapes etc

I still eat grains, mainly buckwheat, quinoa and sprouted spelt bread. I'm

trying to avoid gluten but spelt is not so bad I think, esp if it's sprouted. I

would try avoiding yeast though. To ease grain's digestion, you can soak them

overnight with a bit of lemon

I still eat nuts, esp almonds but I also soak them with salt water to help

digestion.

I still eat dairies-raw milk, homemade yogurt and cheese.

I try to eat organic as much as possible, to avoid sugars by all means even raw

honey (though like I said some say it is ok) wheat and yeast.

Now we're all different and what I tolerate is different from what others do.

Sometimes I get bloated when eating fruits so am not sure it suits me but I

never know if it's the fruits or something else. I tend to get bloated when I

eat too much.

I also try to limit my carbs intake to 80 gr a day

so let's say in an apple you have 19gr of carbs, in 5 buckwheat crackers you

have 15 and then you have some veggies, a yogurt etc, all in all I try not to go

over 80 to keep my glycemia steady and to avoid putting on weight.

I also work on the issue behind condida-emotions etc as it plays an important

role too. Food is not about it all!

hope this helps Diane!!

carox

________________________________

From: " elwynevenstar@... " <elwynevenstar@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sun, July 11, 2010 8:08:22 PM

Subject: Re: Maple syrup and baking soda

Caroline----Re what you said about no grains and nuts: How do you feel

about sprouted grains? They're not really quite the same thing, right? ---or

that is the effect would be different--I'm interested in hearing your

opinion on those. Also I have always heard that almonds are a benign &

healthy nut to have on a diet designed to kill candida. Not sure about

walnuts

though. The hull is definitely used in concoctions for killing parasites

but not sure about eating the entire nut. Would like to hear what others

have to say about this as well. Thanx,

Diane

July 12, 2010

Hi Jo,

since you mentioned once you stopped the lemon, grapefruit, olive oil mixture

your anxiety improved makes me think that it was causing die off. and then

starting the maple syrup mixture would cause die off again. maybe you should try

a smaller dose? and work your way up to the 2-3 doses. also I read about the

mixture online and the info I read said to start with teaspoons not tablespoons

so it's more gradual and wouldn't cause such a strong reaction. I agree with

Caroline on the meds, not good for the body. I've heard St. 's wort herb is

good for anxiety. but if you are on birth control (which hopefully you aren't

because that is bad for the liver and kills the good bacteria) it can make them

ineffective. also valerian herb. but I think these take time to work but like

Caroline mentioned EFT could help more immediately and so could vetiver

essential oil diluted and rubbed on chest. but I would check online for info on

the herbs for any other contraindications and dosages. hope you feel better!

to Diane, I was also wondering about the sugar in the maple syrup feeding the

candida but what I read is the sugar will bait the yeast cell to eat it and then

the baking soda will kill the cell.

Jess-Anne

> > > >

> > > > I know this is a long post, but to understand how I got to where I am,

you really need this cliff notes history.

> > > >

> > > > I have Celiac's disease which was not diagnosed until in my 50's. I

realized I had a sensitivity to wheat in my 30's but didn't make the gluten

connection until recently.

> > > >

> > > > If you're unfamiliar with Celiac's, it's an auto-immune condition in

which exposure to gluten damages the lining of the intestine. Over time the

compromised digestive tract leads to all sorts of other problems . . .

nutritional deficiency and parasite and fungus invasion being the big three.

> > > >

> > > > I have been fighting crappy health and losing (getting worse) for a long

time. Each year I got unhealthier and did less. It was like watching my mom's

life. She got heavier and heavier before she died of colo-rectal cancer at 54.

I was SO looking like I was following her path and desperately needed to put on

the brakes.

> > > >

> > > > I'd been to doctors and had gotten no help and no answers. Virginia

Mason's doctors were kind enough to tell me I should see a psychologist. The

last naturopath I went to was no better.

> > > >

> > > > I found a CNT who was able to give me some answers. I was so badly

infested I had more parasites in my blood stream than white blood cells. Don't

believe me? I have a video of my blood through a dark field microscope. It was

beyond gross. In a drop of blood smaller than the head of a pin I had five

parasite bodies (2 different types). Do the math. Millions of parasites just

in my blood. With her help I killed the parasites.

> > > >

> > > > Now I had dead parasite bodies that were clogging everything including

my lymph glands. I took a course of apple cider vinegar to dissolve the

parasite bodies.

> > > >

> > > > Then I did a course of colon cleansing (Dr. Natura's Colonix and

Toxinout - both great products, and Amagram's fungus cleanse - helpful but not a

silver bullet).

> > > >

> > > > I was lots healthier, but I was still stuck with fungus. I'd moderated

my diet - no sugar, no fruit but was treading water. The fungus had taken over.

My scalp itched, my ears ran, I had fungus between my toes.

> > > >

> > > > Because of the history of parasites and my mom's cancer and 10 years of

" camping " (a whole 'nother story), I started taking MMS

(www.miraclemineral.org). It helped a lot but did little for the fungus in my

scalp and ears and feet. It did help clean up the mess left by the parasites and

did a great job cleaning my blood and generally improving my health. Kudos to

Jim Humble for his sharing.

> > > >

> > > > So here I was, healthier but still with fungus. Everything I was doing

was like trying to put out a brush fire with a garden hose, not very effective.

> > > >

> > > > A chance post on the MMS list led me to try maple syrup and baking soda.

The post told of a doctor who had five sisters as patients, four of whom died of

breast cancer. The surviving sister liked drinking water with maple syrup and

baking soda. Based on his research he developed a protocol for using the mix.

> > > >

> > > > According to the proffered instructions I heated the mix on the stove

for 5 minutes. When it had cooled sufficiently I took a teaspoon. If you've

ever taken medicine that was wickedly hard to keep taking after the first dose,

this was it. It's awful. It's sticky and tastes terrible. There is no such

thing as swallowing it quickly. Yuck.

> > > >

> > > > I finished the small batch I'd made (3 tbsp maple syrup to 1 tbsp baking

soda) and it made such an enormous difference in how I felt I knew I had to find

a way to make it easier to take. I made it into hard candy (cooked longer) and

formed it into small caplet shaped doses.

> > > >

> > > > I have had some horrible cleansing symptoms but it has been worth every

blister and rash. My scalp no longer itches. My ears do not run. I have no

fungus between my toes. After just three weeks the difference is beyond

amazing.

> > > >

> > > > I am still taking it and I've started my husband taking it

(diverticulitis - www.elfnori.com/Colonix). I've made up batches for my best

friend and her daughter. I'm sending some to my sister and to my brother and

his wife and my son and his SO.

> > > >

> > > > I have taken it five times a day and that's a pretty intense cleansing,

doable but not real comfortable. I have taken it twice a day and that seems to

be a maintenance dose for the amount of fungus in my system.

> > > >

> > > > Three times a day (first thing in the morning, last thing at night and

right before going to bed) seems to be the perfect dosing for me. That amount

seems to continuing the cleansing without making it so intense I notice. As

with everything, your mileage may vary.

> > > >

> > > > So here I am, getting my life back. My brain works awesomely well.

Between the MMS and the maple syrup/baking soda, I no longer live in a fog.

Things that have been bothering me for years are finally healing. I seldom have

numb fingers anymore (pinched nerve from disintegrating vertebrae and enlarged

lymph gland). The ankle I ruined in '83 is finally healing. I'm walking over

rough ground without being totally lame afterward.

> > > >

> > > > I hope my experience helps you.

> > > >

> > > > Nori

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 12, 2010

Hi MJ,

I don't know if your anxiety is from die-off, but I sure get panic and anxiety

when I'm having die-off.Â I thought for months I was going to have a heart

attack, because I'd never had panic attacks before...also it can keep me up most

of the night.Â It sucks.]

I also got a very weird sensation which felt like a heart attack, but

wasn't...it felt like energy welling up from my legs and whooshing up into my

chest...it was terrifying.Â I told a doctor and as they usually do, he looked

at

me like I was crazy.Â BUT I found a doctor who said there's a name for that

feeling in chinese medicine and she gave me some herbal pills for

it...unfortunately they had lots of carrot in them so I stopped taking them, too

sweet.Â I was just wondering if you've ever felt anything like this.Â It is so

bizarre.Â I thought I was going to die every time.

________________________________

From: pilgrim_MJ <pilgrim_mj@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 8:30:50 AM

Subject: Re: Maple syrup and baking soda

Â

Hi All,

I was so interested in the Maple syrup/baking soda mix...for the past three

weeks, I have been doing a gentle liver flush consisting of the juice of one

grapefruit, juice of one lemon and 2Tbs olive oil first thing in the morning,

every day. I immediately experienced loss of that terrible bloating feeling and

so I kept on. After the three weeks, I began to have pretty severe anxiety/panic

attacks, which I think may be due to die-off. This is so hard to take, I decided

to quit the cleanse for the time being. I immediately began to feel better, but

knew I still had work to do...

Next day, I came across your maple syrup mix, and made some right away. Took two

doses yesterday, and today woke up with lots of anxiety again. It is terrible. I

would not wish this on my worst enemy...

Is this just die-off? I have to tell you - this is so hard to take for me...I

need some hope that if I continue with this regimen that the anxiety will start

to ease up.

I am eating good - lots of vegetables and vegetable juices - little fruit, just

enough protein (mostly turkey burgers) so I feel fed...lots of water with lemon.

Does anyone have advice? I am so distraught I am thinking that I may need to ask

my doc for some anxiety meds if I continue with this alkalinizing

process...would that be a bad thing? I don't think the doc will understand if I

explain what I am doing...

Please - any help would be so appreciated...

Jo

> > >

> > > I know this is a long post, but to understand how I got to where I am, you

>really need this cliff notes history.

> > >

> > > I have Celiac's disease which was not diagnosed until in my 50's. I

>realized I had a sensitivity to wheat in my 30's but didn't make the gluten

>connection until recently.

>

> > >

> > > If you're unfamiliar with Celiac's, it's an auto-immune condition in which

>exposure to gluten damages the lining of the intestine. Over time the

>compromised digestive tract leads to all sorts of other problems . . .

>nutritional deficiency and parasite and fungus invasion being the big three.

> > >

> > > I have been fighting crappy health and losing (getting worse) for a long

>time. Each year I got unhealthier and did less. It was like watching my mom's

>life. She got heavier and heavier before she died of colo-rectal cancer at 54.

I

>was SO looking like I was following her path and desperately needed to put on

>the brakes.

> > >

> > > I'd been to doctors and had gotten no help and no answers. Virginia

Mason's

>doctors were kind enough to tell me I should see a psychologist. The last

>naturopath I went to was no better.

> > >

> > > I found a CNT who was able to give me some answers. I was so badly

infested

>I had more parasites in my blood stream than white blood cells. Don't believe

>me? I have a video of my blood through a dark field microscope. It was beyond

>gross. In a drop of blood smaller than the head of a pin I had five parasite

>bodies (2 different types). Do the math. Millions of parasites just in my

blood.

>With her help I killed the parasites.

> > >

> > > Now I had dead parasite bodies that were clogging everything including my

>lymph glands. I took a course of apple cider vinegar to dissolve the parasite

>bodies.

> > >

> > > Then I did a course of colon cleansing (Dr. Natura's Colonix and Toxinout

-

>both great products, and Amagram's fungus cleanse - helpful but not a silver

>bullet).

> > >

> > > I was lots healthier, but I was still stuck with fungus. I'd moderated my

>diet - no sugar, no fruit but was treading water. The fungus had taken over. My

>scalp itched, my ears ran, I had fungus between my toes.

> > >

> > > Because of the history of parasites and my mom's cancer and 10 years of

> " camping " (a whole 'nother story), I started taking MMS

>(www.miraclemineral.org). It helped a lot but did little for the fungus in my

>scalp and ears and feet. It did help clean up the mess left by the parasites

and

>did a great job cleaning my blood and generally improving my health. Kudos to

>Jim Humble for his sharing.

> > >

> > > So here I was, healthier but still with fungus. Everything I was doing was

>like trying to put out a brush fire with a garden hose, not very effective.

> > >

> > > A chance post on the MMS list led me to try maple syrup and baking soda.

>The post told of a doctor who had five sisters as patients, four of whom died

of

>breast cancer. The surviving sister liked drinking water with maple syrup and

>baking soda. Based on his research he developed a protocol for using the mix.

> > >

> > > According to the proffered instructions I heated the mix on the stove for

5

>minutes. When it had cooled sufficiently I took a teaspoon. If you've ever

taken

>medicine that was wickedly hard to keep taking after the first dose, this was

>it. It's awful. It's sticky and tastes terrible. There is no such thing as

>swallowing it quickly. Yuck.

>

> > >

> > > I finished the small batch I'd made (3 tbsp maple syrup to 1 tbsp baking

>soda) and it made such an enormous difference in how I felt I knew I had to

find

>a way to make it easier to take. I made it into hard candy (cooked longer) and

>formed it into small caplet shaped doses.

> > >

> > > I have had some horrible cleansing symptoms but it has been worth every

>blister and rash. My scalp no longer itches. My ears do not run. I have no

>fungus between my toes. After just three weeks the difference is beyond

amazing.

> > >

> > > I am still taking it and I've started my husband taking it (diverticulitis

>- www.elfnori.com/Colonix). I've made up batches for my best friend and her

>daughter. I'm sending some to my sister and to my brother and his wife and my

>son and his SO.

> > >

> > > I have taken it five times a day and that's a pretty intense cleansing,

>doable but not real comfortable. I have taken it twice a day and that seems to

>be a maintenance dose for the amount of fungus in my system.

>

> > >

> > > Three times a day (first thing in the morning, last thing at night and

>right before going to bed) seems to be the perfect dosing for me. That amount

>seems to continuing the cleansing without making it so intense I notice. As

with

>everything, your mileage may vary.

> > >

> > > So here I am, getting my life back. My brain works awesomely well. Between

>the MMS and the maple syrup/baking soda, I no longer live in a fog. Things that

>have been bothering me for years are finally healing. I seldom have numb

fingers

>anymore (pinched nerve from disintegrating vertebrae and enlarged lymph gland).

>The ankle I ruined in '83 is finally healing. I'm walking over rough ground

>without being totally lame afterward.

> > >

> > > I hope my experience helps you.

> > >

> > > Nori

> > >

> >

>

July 12, 2010

Caroline,

That retracing thing is extremely interesting andÂ I'm glad you mentioned it.Â

The anxiety and weird energy whooshing thing that I used to get pretty much

stopped after I started having actual flashbacks of actual trauma of which I had

been previously unaware.Â Â I wonder if things were coming back to me

gradually.

Actually the whole process of getting rid of candida peeled away some sort of

barrier I'd built around myself as a child and allowed emotions I never knew I

had -- really really horrible emotions -- to come to the surface.Â Â Â Just for

the record, this was why it took me so long to stop cheating.Â Â Â Â Â Â And, if

I

hadn't developed candida, I don't think I ever would have let myself feel these

things again.Â Candida forced me to do it.Â It would have killed me if I

hadn't.Â I think Louise Hay is really on to something!Â

Â I really have to say that candida forced me to get healthy in lots of ways.Â

It

felt like something in me developed candida on purpose so that I could get

healthy.Â I mean, the " normal " diet that most people eat is not a healthy

diet.Â

It makes people sick in all kinds of ways.

Sorry if this is too personal, but I do think it's relevant!Â

I wonder if anyone else has had a similar experience.Â A guy named Russ brought

something like this up a long time ago.Â Are you still around, Russ?

Thanks,

________________________________

From: Caroline Croon <carolinecroon@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 8:51:00 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Maple syrup and baking soda

Â

hello!

that liver flush sounds interesting, I think I'll try that!

I think what you are experiencing could be " retracing " , dont know what the other

think. I have heard that when we heal from an illness, we have retracing

symptoms, meaning that we tend to re live symptoms we had before, did you have

anxiety before? I'm not sure, just a thought.

I wouldnt recommend medication for it now you are cleansing your body, it'd be

like going back to square 1; they are bad to the liver etc.. I would recommend

some gentle herbe or sthg, maybe Wil could help us with this?

Good luck to you! have you tried doing some EFT for your anxiety?

caroline.

________________________________

From: pilgrim_MJ <pilgrim_mj@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 3:30:50 PM

Subject: Re: Maple syrup and baking soda

Hi All,

I was so interested in the Maple syrup/baking soda mix...for the past three

weeks, I have been doing a gentle liver flush consisting of the juice of one

grapefruit, juice of one lemon and 2Tbs olive oil first thing in the morning,

every day. I immediately experienced loss of that terrible bloating feeling and

so I kept on. After the three weeks, I began to have pretty severe anxiety/panic

attacks, which I think may be due to die-off. This is so hard to take, I decided

to quit the cleanse for the time being. I immediately began to feel better, but

knew I still had work to do...

Next day, I came across your maple syrup mix, and made some right away. Took two

doses yesterday, and today woke up with lots of anxiety again. It is terrible. I

would not wish this on my worst enemy...

Is this just die-off? I have to tell you - this is so hard to take for me...I

need some hope that if I continue with this regimen that the anxiety will start

to ease up.

I am eating good - lots of vegetables and vegetable juices - little fruit, just

enough protein (mostly turkey burgers) so I feel fed...lots of water with lemon.

Does anyone have advice? I am so distraught I am thinking that I may need to ask

my doc for some anxiety meds if I continue with this alkalinizing

process...would that be a bad thing? I don't think the doc will understand if I

explain what I am doing...

Please - any help would be so appreciated...

Jo

> > >

> > > I know this is a long post, but to understand how I got to where I am, you

>really need this cliff notes history.

> > >

> > > I have Celiac's disease which was not diagnosed until in my 50's. I

>realized I had a sensitivity to wheat in my 30's but didn't make the gluten

>connection until recently.

>

> > >

> > > If you're unfamiliar with Celiac's, it's an auto-immune condition in which

>exposure to gluten damages the lining of the intestine. Over time the

>compromised digestive tract leads to all sorts of other problems . . .

>nutritional deficiency and parasite and fungus invasion being the big three.

> > >

> > > I have been fighting crappy health and losing (getting worse) for a long

>time. Each year I got unhealthier and did less. It was like watching my mom's

>life. She got heavier and heavier before she died of colo-rectal cancer at 54.

>I was SO looking like I was following her path and desperately needed to put on

>the brakes.

> > >

> > > I'd been to doctors and had gotten no help and no answers. Virginia

>Mason's doctors were kind enough to tell me I should see a psychologist. The

>last naturopath I went to was no better.

> > >

> > > I found a CNT who was able to give me some answers. I was so badly

>infested I had more parasites in my blood stream than white blood cells. Don't

>believe me? I have a video of my blood through a dark field microscope. It was

>beyond gross. In a drop of blood smaller than the head of a pin I had five

>parasite bodies (2 different types). Do the math. Millions of parasites just

>in my blood. With her help I killed the parasites.

> > >

> > > Now I had dead parasite bodies that were clogging everything including my

>lymph glands. I took a course of apple cider vinegar to dissolve the parasite

>bodies.

> > >

> > > Then I did a course of colon cleansing (Dr. Natura's Colonix and Toxinout

-

>

>both great products, and Amagram's fungus cleanse - helpful but not a silver

>bullet).

> > >

> > > I was lots healthier, but I was still stuck with fungus. I'd moderated my

>diet - no sugar, no fruit but was treading water. The fungus had taken over.

>My scalp itched, my ears ran, I had fungus between my toes.

> > >

> > > Because of the history of parasites and my mom's cancer and 10 years of

> " camping " (a whole 'nother story), I started taking MMS

>(www.miraclemineral.org). It helped a lot but did little for the fungus in my

>scalp and ears and feet. It did help clean up the mess left by the parasites

and

>

>did a great job cleaning my blood and generally improving my health. Kudos to

>Jim Humble for his sharing.

> > >

> > > So here I was, healthier but still with fungus. Everything I was doing was

>like trying to put out a brush fire with a garden hose, not very effective.

> > >

> > > A chance post on the MMS list led me to try maple syrup and baking soda.

>The post told of a doctor who had five sisters as patients, four of whom died

of

>

>breast cancer. The surviving sister liked drinking water with maple syrup and

>baking soda. Based on his research he developed a protocol for using the mix.

> > >

> > > According to the proffered instructions I heated the mix on the stove for

>5 minutes. When it had cooled sufficiently I took a teaspoon. If you've ever

>taken medicine that was wickedly hard to keep taking after the first dose, this

>was it. It's awful. It's sticky and tastes terrible. There is no such thing

>as swallowing it quickly. Yuck.

>

> > >

> > > I finished the small batch I'd made (3 tbsp maple syrup to 1 tbsp baking

>soda) and it made such an enormous difference in how I felt I knew I had to

find

>

>a way to make it easier to take. I made it into hard candy (cooked longer) and

>formed it into small caplet shaped doses.

> > >

> > > I have had some horrible cleansing symptoms but it has been worth every

>blister and rash. My scalp no longer itches. My ears do not run. I have no

>fungus between my toes. After just three weeks the difference is beyond

>amazing.

> > >

> > > I am still taking it and I've started my husband taking it (diverticulitis

>- www.elfnori.com/Colonix). I've made up batches for my best friend and her

>daughter. I'm sending some to my sister and to my brother and his wife and my

>son and his SO.

> > >

> > > I have taken it five times a day and that's a pretty intense cleansing,

>doable but not real comfortable. I have taken it twice a day and that seems to

>be a maintenance dose for the amount of fungus in my system.

>

> > >

> > > Three times a day (first thing in the morning, last thing at night and

>right before going to bed) seems to be the perfect dosing for me. That amount

>seems to continuing the cleansing without making it so intense I notice. As

>with everything, your mileage may vary.

> > >

> > > So here I am, getting my life back. My brain works awesomely well.

>Between the MMS and the maple syrup/baking soda, I no longer live in a fog.

>Things that have been bothering me for years are finally healing. I seldom have

>numb fingers anymore (pinched nerve from disintegrating vertebrae and enlarged

>lymph gland). The ankle I ruined in '83 is finally healing. I'm walking over

>rough ground without being totally lame afterward.

> > >

> > > I hope my experience helps you.

> > >

> > > Nori

> > >

> >

>

July 12, 2010

Hello,

Just want to mention that I did find calming herbs very helpful during high

anxietyÂ periods. Skullcap, passionflower and hops...I was on them all day.Â

Valerian was useful also, but for me I'd only use it at night because it made me

feel pretty stoned.Â Herbs are amazing!

________________________________

From: jessanne_lepine <jessanne_lepine@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 5:41:08 PM