Guest guest Posted January 15, 2001 Report Share Posted January 15, 2001 Patty, What were the symptoms (that you speak of in this letter), which you experienced at around eight months? DeBoltKCC Nursing Student -----Original Message-----From: Patty [mailto:faussettdp@...]Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 6:07 PMethics@...Cc: egroupsSubject: study on ethics and morality of cosmetic surgery To Dr. Hudson, I was given your website address from a former patient of yours. She has now become a part of my Support group for women harmed by saline implants. I wanted to share with you some of my thoughts regarding the moral and ethical issues of breast augmentation surgery. I myself have been a victim of this deceptive surgery. I had saline implants put in May of 1997, McGhan textured, 450cc overfilled to 500cc, under the muscle. I was told that they would go with me to my grave. Everything was fine for about 8 months. Then my world crashed as my immune system buckled under the stress of having an implant in my body. I suffered devastating symptoms that destroyed my happy life and filled it with pain and anguish instead. Through the Internet, I found support from thousands of other women who had similarly suffered from their implants, both silicone gel and saline. These symptoms are no coincidence. Once you read the same stories over and over again, year after year, from women from all backgrounds, social status, financial status, age groups, there is no denying that women are being harmed by their implants, including those that are saline. It has been almost 3 years to the day that I got sick, and 2 years, 10 and a half months since explant, and I am proud to report that ALL of my symptoms have abated and I am once again a happy and healthy individual. If I had not removed the implants, I doubt I could tell you that. The moral and ethical dilemma comes from the plastic surgeons neglect in telling women of the true dangers of breast implants. So many women on my group have stated that had they known the real dangers, they never would have gotten implants. I have also been rewarded with letters from women saying THANK YOU FOR THIS GROUP!, stating that they have cancelled their surgeries because of the information we have given them through our own research, experiences, and recoveries. If you are not telling women that they risk their health, their jobs, their financial well being, and their self-esteem should their implants fail them, you are being deceptive. You are not giving them full information about the surgery and the effects of implants, and therefore, they cannot give you full informed consent. I have heard too many sad, heart breaking stories about implants destroying lives to not speak up about this, given the opportunity. I urge you to check out the facts yourself. Be true. Have integrity. Do the right thing. Find out what is happening to some women as a result of their implants. And then ask yourself, do you want to be responsible for their ill health if you don't warn them ahead of time that this is a very real possibility? I know that not all women will get as sick as I was, but until medical science can come up with real solutions to the illnesses being presented as a result of breast implants, the responsibility for these medical disasters rests on the shoulders of those who are putting them in without disclosing the full scope of risks in their true, ugly actuality. Patty Faussett Owner and Moderator of on E-groups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2001 Report Share Posted January 15, 2001 , I experienced increasing fatigue to the point of being unable to function normally, (but sleep did not refresh me in the least), visual disturbances, spaciness in my head, brain fog, memory problems, inability to concentrate, sleeplessness, night sweats and heart palpitations. These were the initial devastating symptoms. Others followed these, such as muscle twitching, stiff neck pain, swollen lymph glands, tingling in the extremities, and other neurological manifestations. All have resolved. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: DeBolt egroups Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 5:17 PM Subject: RE: ???? for Patty Patty, What were the symptoms (that you speak of in this letter), which you experienced at around eight months? DeBoltKCC Nursing Student -----Original Message-----From: Patty [mailto:faussettdp@...]Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 6:07 PMethics@...Cc: egroupsSubject: study on ethics and morality of cosmetic surgery To Dr. Hudson, I was given your website address from a former patient of yours. She has now become a part of my Support group for women harmed by saline implants. I wanted to share with you some of my thoughts regarding the moral and ethical issues of breast augmentation surgery. I myself have been a victim of this deceptive surgery. I had saline implants put in May of 1997, McGhan textured, 450cc overfilled to 500cc, under the muscle. I was told that they would go with me to my grave. Everything was fine for about 8 months. Then my world crashed as my immune system buckled under the stress of having an implant in my body. I suffered devastating symptoms that destroyed my happy life and filled it with pain and anguish instead. Through the Internet, I found support from thousands of other women who had similarly suffered from their implants, both silicone gel and saline. These symptoms are no coincidence. Once you read the same stories over and over again, year after year, from women from all backgrounds, social status, financial status, age groups, there is no denying that women are being harmed by their implants, including those that are saline. It has been almost 3 years to the day that I got sick, and 2 years, 10 and a half months since explant, and I am proud to report that ALL of my symptoms have abated and I am once again a happy and healthy individual. If I had not removed the implants, I doubt I could tell you that. The moral and ethical dilemma comes from the plastic surgeons neglect in telling women of the true dangers of breast implants. So many women on my group have stated that had they known the real dangers, they never would have gotten implants. I have also been rewarded with letters from women saying THANK YOU FOR THIS GROUP!, stating that they have cancelled their surgeries because of the information we have given them through our own research, experiences, and recoveries. If you are not telling women that they risk their health, their jobs, their financial well being, and their self-esteem should their implants fail them, you are being deceptive. You are not giving them full information about the surgery and the effects of implants, and therefore, they cannot give you full informed consent. I have heard too many sad, heart breaking stories about implants destroying lives to not speak up about this, given the opportunity. I urge you to check out the facts yourself. Be true. Have integrity. Do the right thing. Find out what is happening to some women as a result of their implants. And then ask yourself, do you want to be responsible for their ill health if you don't warn them ahead of time that this is a very real possibility? I know that not all women will get as sick as I was, but until medical science can come up with real solutions to the illnesses being presented as a result of breast implants, the responsibility for these medical disasters rests on the shoulders of those who are putting them in without disclosing the full scope of risks in their true, ugly actuality. Patty Faussett Owner and Moderator of on E-groups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2001 Report Share Posted January 15, 2001 Patty, Were these due to Silicone implants, or Saline? Does it really matter? I have Saline implants, had them put in last year around this time. I am having some weird medical problems. That is the reason for my concern and curiousity. Thanx so much for your time ) DeBoltKCC Nursing Student -----Original Message-----From: Patty [mailto:faussettdp@...]Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:11 PM egroupsSubject: Re: ???? for Patty , I experienced increasing fatigue to the point of being unable to function normally, (but sleep did not refresh me in the least), visual disturbances, spaciness in my head, brain fog, memory problems, inability to concentrate, sleeplessness, night sweats and heart palpitations. These were the initial devastating symptoms. Others followed these, such as muscle twitching, stiff neck pain, swollen lymph glands, tingling in the extremities, and other neurological manifestations. All have resolved. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: DeBolt egroups Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 5:17 PM Subject: RE: ???? for Patty Patty, What were the symptoms (that you speak of in this letter), which you experienced at around eight months? DeBoltKCC Nursing Student -----Original Message-----From: Patty [mailto:faussettdp@...]Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 6:07 PMethics@...Cc: egroupsSubject: study on ethics and morality of cosmetic surgery To Dr. Hudson, I was given your website address from a former patient of yours. She has now become a part of my Support group for women harmed by saline implants. I wanted to share with you some of my thoughts regarding the moral and ethical issues of breast augmentation surgery. I myself have been a victim of this deceptive surgery. I had saline implants put in May of 1997, McGhan textured, 450cc overfilled to 500cc, under the muscle. I was told that they would go with me to my grave. Everything was fine for about 8 months. Then my world crashed as my immune system buckled under the stress of having an implant in my body. I suffered devastating symptoms that destroyed my happy life and filled it with pain and anguish instead. Through the Internet, I found support from thousands of other women who had similarly suffered from their implants, both silicone gel and saline. These symptoms are no coincidence. Once you read the same stories over and over again, year after year, from women from all backgrounds, social status, financial status, age groups, there is no denying that women are being harmed by their implants, including those that are saline. It has been almost 3 years to the day that I got sick, and 2 years, 10 and a half months since explant, and I am proud to report that ALL of my symptoms have abated and I am once again a happy and healthy individual. If I had not removed the implants, I doubt I could tell you that. The moral and ethical dilemma comes from the plastic surgeons neglect in telling women of the true dangers of breast implants. So many women on my group have stated that had they known the real dangers, they never would have gotten implants. I have also been rewarded with letters from women saying THANK YOU FOR THIS GROUP!, stating that they have cancelled their surgeries because of the information we have given them through our own research, experiences, and recoveries. If you are not telling women that they risk their health, their jobs, their financial well being, and their self-esteem should their implants fail them, you are being deceptive. You are not giving them full information about the surgery and the effects of implants, and therefore, they cannot give you full informed consent. I have heard too many sad, heart breaking stories about implants destroying lives to not speak up about this, given the opportunity. I urge you to check out the facts yourself. Be true. Have integrity. Do the right thing. Find out what is happening to some women as a result of their implants. And then ask yourself, do you want to be responsible for their ill health if you don't warn them ahead of time that this is a very real possibility? I know that not all women will get as sick as I was, but until medical science can come up with real solutions to the illnesses being presented as a result of breast implants, the responsibility for these medical disasters rests on the shoulders of those who are putting them in without disclosing the full scope of risks in their true, ugly actuality. Patty Faussett Owner and Moderator of on E-groups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2001 Report Share Posted January 15, 2001 , My implants were Saline filled, McGhan textured, under the muscle. The problems that the women had with silicon gel implants are also being experienced by women who have saline implants, so no, it really doesn't matter what type of implant you had. The fact is that your immune system and other bodily functions become stressed and buckle under the impact of a foreign object. You could be reacting to either the silicone shell (and textured implants provide many more surface areas for cellular contact than smooth ones), or a fungal pathogen or mycobacteria from the implant itself. Unfortunately, no one knows at this time. I would venture to guess at this point in time, if you are beginning to have weird medical problems that you never had before and the only change in your life has been the implants, then you are probably reacting negatively to them. Your only real hope of recovery of your health is number one, to get the implants out. From there, you need to work on restoring your health with a lifestyle based on natural foods and avoidance of toxins. I hate to see you go through this, . Please keep us informed of what you are feeling and experiencing, and we'll be here to help you any way we can. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: DeBolt egroups Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 5:44 AM Subject: RE: ???? for Patty Patty, Were these due to Silicone implants, or Saline? Does it really matter? I have Saline implants, had them put in last year around this time. I am having some weird medical problems. That is the reason for my concern and curiousity. Thanx so much for your time ) DeBoltKCC Nursing Student -----Original Message-----From: Patty [mailto:faussettdp@...]Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:11 PM egroupsSubject: Re: ???? for Patty , I experienced increasing fatigue to the point of being unable to function normally, (but sleep did not refresh me in the least), visual disturbances, spaciness in my head, brain fog, memory problems, inability to concentrate, sleeplessness, night sweats and heart palpitations. These were the initial devastating symptoms. Others followed these, such as muscle twitching, stiff neck pain, swollen lymph glands, tingling in the extremities, and other neurological manifestations. All have resolved. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: DeBolt egroups Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 5:17 PM Subject: RE: ???? for Patty Patty, What were the symptoms (that you speak of in this letter), which you experienced at around eight months? DeBoltKCC Nursing Student -----Original Message-----From: Patty [mailto:faussettdp@...]Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 6:07 PMethics@...Cc: egroupsSubject: study on ethics and morality of cosmetic surgery To Dr. Hudson, I was given your website address from a former patient of yours. She has now become a part of my Support group for women harmed by saline implants. I wanted to share with you some of my thoughts regarding the moral and ethical issues of breast augmentation surgery. I myself have been a victim of this deceptive surgery. I had saline implants put in May of 1997, McGhan textured, 450cc overfilled to 500cc, under the muscle. I was told that they would go with me to my grave. Everything was fine for about 8 months. Then my world crashed as my immune system buckled under the stress of having an implant in my body. I suffered devastating symptoms that destroyed my happy life and filled it with pain and anguish instead. Through the Internet, I found support from thousands of other women who had similarly suffered from their implants, both silicone gel and saline. These symptoms are no coincidence. Once you read the same stories over and over again, year after year, from women from all backgrounds, social status, financial status, age groups, there is no denying that women are being harmed by their implants, including those that are saline. It has been almost 3 years to the day that I got sick, and 2 years, 10 and a half months since explant, and I am proud to report that ALL of my symptoms have abated and I am once again a happy and healthy individual. If I had not removed the implants, I doubt I could tell you that. The moral and ethical dilemma comes from the plastic surgeons neglect in telling women of the true dangers of breast implants. So many women on my group have stated that had they known the real dangers, they never would have gotten implants. I have also been rewarded with letters from women saying THANK YOU FOR THIS GROUP!, stating that they have cancelled their surgeries because of the information we have given them through our own research, experiences, and recoveries. If you are not telling women that they risk their health, their jobs, their financial well being, and their self-esteem should their implants fail them, you are being deceptive. You are not giving them full information about the surgery and the effects of implants, and therefore, they cannot give you full informed consent. I have heard too many sad, heart breaking stories about implants destroying lives to not speak up about this, given the opportunity. I urge you to check out the facts yourself. Be true. Have integrity. Do the right thing. Find out what is happening to some women as a result of their implants. And then ask yourself, do you want to be responsible for their ill health if you don't warn them ahead of time that this is a very real possibility? I know that not all women will get as sick as I was, but until medical science can come up with real solutions to the illnesses being presented as a result of breast implants, the responsibility for these medical disasters rests on the shoulders of those who are putting them in without disclosing the full scope of risks in their true, ugly actuality. Patty Faussett Owner and Moderator of on E-groups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2001 Report Share Posted January 15, 2001 I feel like I am in denial right now. Like, it must be something other than these implants. No one ever told me that it was going to affect my health in weird ways like this. The surgery was so expensive, people get other foreign plates and rods etc. put in their bodies, and I am sure you have heard and felt all these same things? Haven't you? Another surgery? How many others are out there like me? How many are on this support group? How many women have had their inplants taken out? Are they getting better? Why me? DeBoltKCC Nursing Student -----Original Message-----From: Patty [mailto:faussettdp@...]Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 10:25 AM egroupsSubject: Re: ???? for Patty , My implants were Saline filled, McGhan textured, under the muscle. The problems that the women had with silicon gel implants are also being experienced by women who have saline implants, so no, it really doesn't matter what type of implant you had. The fact is that your immune system and other bodily functions become stressed and buckle under the impact of a foreign object. You could be reacting to either the silicone shell (and textured implants provide many more surface areas for cellular contact than smooth ones), or a fungal pathogen or mycobacteria from the implant itself. Unfortunately, no one knows at this time. I would venture to guess at this point in time, if you are beginning to have weird medical problems that you never had before and the only change in your life has been the implants, then you are probably reacting negatively to them. Your only real hope of recovery of your health is number one, to get the implants out. From there, you need to work on restoring your health with a lifestyle based on natural foods and avoidance of toxins. I hate to see you go through this, . Please keep us informed of what you are feeling and experiencing, and we'll be here to help you any way we can. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: DeBolt egroups Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 5:44 AM Subject: RE: ???? for Patty Patty, Were these due to Silicone implants, or Saline? Does it really matter? I have Saline implants, had them put in last year around this time. I am having some weird medical problems. That is the reason for my concern and curiousity. Thanx so much for your time ) DeBoltKCC Nursing Student -----Original Message-----From: Patty [mailto:faussettdp@...]Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:11 PM egroupsSubject: Re: ???? for Patty , I experienced increasing fatigue to the point of being unable to function normally, (but sleep did not refresh me in the least), visual disturbances, spaciness in my head, brain fog, memory problems, inability to concentrate, sleeplessness, night sweats and heart palpitations. These were the initial devastating symptoms. Others followed these, such as muscle twitching, stiff neck pain, swollen lymph glands, tingling in the extremities, and other neurological manifestations. All have resolved. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: DeBolt egroups Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 5:17 PM Subject: RE: ???? for Patty Patty, What were the symptoms (that you speak of in this letter), which you experienced at around eight months? DeBoltKCC Nursing Student -----Original Message-----From: Patty [mailto:faussettdp@...]Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 6:07 PMethics@...Cc: egroupsSubject: study on ethics and morality of cosmetic surgery To Dr. Hudson, I was given your website address from a former patient of yours. She has now become a part of my Support group for women harmed by saline implants. I wanted to share with you some of my thoughts regarding the moral and ethical issues of breast augmentation surgery. I myself have been a victim of this deceptive surgery. I had saline implants put in May of 1997, McGhan textured, 450cc overfilled to 500cc, under the muscle. I was told that they would go with me to my grave. Everything was fine for about 8 months. Then my world crashed as my immune system buckled under the stress of having an implant in my body. I suffered devastating symptoms that destroyed my happy life and filled it with pain and anguish instead. Through the Internet, I found support from thousands of other women who had similarly suffered from their implants, both silicone gel and saline. These symptoms are no coincidence. Once you read the same stories over and over again, year after year, from women from all backgrounds, social status, financial status, age groups, there is no denying that women are being harmed by their implants, including those that are saline. It has been almost 3 years to the day that I got sick, and 2 years, 10 and a half months since explant, and I am proud to report that ALL of my symptoms have abated and I am once again a happy and healthy individual. If I had not removed the implants, I doubt I could tell you that. The moral and ethical dilemma comes from the plastic surgeons neglect in telling women of the true dangers of breast implants. So many women on my group have stated that had they known the real dangers, they never would have gotten implants. I have also been rewarded with letters from women saying THANK YOU FOR THIS GROUP!, stating that they have cancelled their surgeries because of the information we have given them through our own research, experiences, and recoveries. If you are not telling women that they risk their health, their jobs, their financial well being, and their self-esteem should their implants fail them, you are being deceptive. You are not giving them full information about the surgery and the effects of implants, and therefore, they cannot give you full informed consent. I have heard too many sad, heart breaking stories about implants destroying lives to not speak up about this, given the opportunity. I urge you to check out the facts yourself. Be true. Have integrity. Do the right thing. Find out what is happening to some women as a result of their implants. And then ask yourself, do you want to be responsible for their ill health if you don't warn them ahead of time that this is a very real possibility? I know that not all women will get as sick as I was, but until medical science can come up with real solutions to the illnesses being presented as a result of breast implants, the responsibility for these medical disasters rests on the shoulders of those who are putting them in without disclosing the full scope of risks in their true, ugly actuality. Patty Faussett Owner and Moderator of on E-groups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2001 Report Share Posted January 15, 2001 Hi , Welcome to the list. I joined the list just before Xmas and have had my eyes opened considerably. I too was in denial for 10 of the 12 yrs I have had my silicone implants. I have posted a letter today here that you can read to see how much denial. This isn't going to be easy girlfriend, but keep at it and you will find your answers. Good luck! Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: DeBolt egroups Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 7:44 AM Subject: RE: ???? for Patty I feel like I am in denial right now. Like, it must be something other than these implants. No one ever told me that it was going to affect my health in weird ways like this. The surgery was so expensive, people get other foreign plates and rods etc. put in their bodies, and I am sure you have heard and felt all these same things? Haven't you? Another surgery? How many others are out there like me? How many are on this support group? How many women have had their inplants taken out? Are they getting better? Why me? DeBoltKCC Nursing Student -----Original Message-----From: Patty [mailto:faussettdp@...]Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 10:25 AM egroupsSubject: Re: ???? for Patty , My implants were Saline filled, McGhan textured, under the muscle. The problems that the women had with silicon gel implants are also being experienced by women who have saline implants, so no, it really doesn't matter what type of implant you had. The fact is that your immune system and other bodily functions become stressed and buckle under the impact of a foreign object. You could be reacting to either the silicone shell (and textured implants provide many more surface areas for cellular contact than smooth ones), or a fungal pathogen or mycobacteria from the implant itself. Unfortunately, no one knows at this time. I would venture to guess at this point in time, if you are beginning to have weird medical problems that you never had before and the only change in your life has been the implants, then you are probably reacting negatively to them. Your only real hope of recovery of your health is number one, to get the implants out. From there, you need to work on restoring your health with a lifestyle based on natural foods and avoidance of toxins. I hate to see you go through this, . Please keep us informed of what you are feeling and experiencing, and we'll be here to help you any way we can. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: DeBolt egroups Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 5:44 AM Subject: RE: ???? for Patty Patty, Were these due to Silicone implants, or Saline? Does it really matter? I have Saline implants, had them put in last year around this time. I am having some weird medical problems. That is the reason for my concern and curiousity. Thanx so much for your time ) DeBoltKCC Nursing Student -----Original Message-----From: Patty [mailto:faussettdp@...]Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:11 PM egroupsSubject: Re: ???? for Patty , I experienced increasing fatigue to the point of being unable to function normally, (but sleep did not refresh me in the least), visual disturbances, spaciness in my head, brain fog, memory problems, inability to concentrate, sleeplessness, night sweats and heart palpitations. These were the initial devastating symptoms. Others followed these, such as muscle twitching, stiff neck pain, swollen lymph glands, tingling in the extremities, and other neurological manifestations. All have resolved. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: DeBolt egroups Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 5:17 PM Subject: RE: ???? for Patty Patty, What were the symptoms (that you speak of in this letter), which you experienced at around eight months? DeBoltKCC Nursing Student -----Original Message-----From: Patty [mailto:faussettdp@...]Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 6:07 PMethics@...Cc: egroupsSubject: study on ethics and morality of cosmetic surgery To Dr. Hudson, I was given your website address from a former patient of yours. She has now become a part of my Support group for women harmed by saline implants. I wanted to share with you some of my thoughts regarding the moral and ethical issues of breast augmentation surgery. I myself have been a victim of this deceptive surgery. I had saline implants put in May of 1997, McGhan textured, 450cc overfilled to 500cc, under the muscle. I was told that they would go with me to my grave. Everything was fine for about 8 months. Then my world crashed as my immune system buckled under the stress of having an implant in my body. I suffered devastating symptoms that destroyed my happy life and filled it with pain and anguish instead. Through the Internet, I found support from thousands of other women who had similarly suffered from their implants, both silicone gel and saline. These symptoms are no coincidence. Once you read the same stories over and over again, year after year, from women from all backgrounds, social status, financial status, age groups, there is no denying that women are being harmed by their implants, including those that are saline. It has been almost 3 years to the day that I got sick, and 2 years, 10 and a half months since explant, and I am proud to report that ALL of my symptoms have abated and I am once again a happy and healthy individual. If I had not removed the implants, I doubt I could tell you that. The moral and ethical dilemma comes from the plastic surgeons neglect in telling women of the true dangers of breast implants. So many women on my group have stated that had they known the real dangers, they never would have gotten implants. I have also been rewarded with letters from women saying THANK YOU FOR THIS GROUP!, stating that they have cancelled their surgeries because of the information we have given them through our own research, experiences, and recoveries. If you are not telling women that they risk their health, their jobs, their financial well being, and their self-esteem should their implants fail them, you are being deceptive. You are not giving them full information about the surgery and the effects of implants, and therefore, they cannot give you full informed consent. I have heard too many sad, heart breaking stories about implants destroying lives to not speak up about this, given the opportunity. I urge you to check out the facts yourself. Be true. Have integrity. Do the right thing. Find out what is happening to some women as a result of their implants. And then ask yourself, do you want to be responsible for their ill health if you don't warn them ahead of time that this is a very real possibility? I know that not all women will get as sick as I was, but until medical science can come up with real solutions to the illnesses being presented as a result of breast implants, the responsibility for these medical disasters rests on the shoulders of those who are putting them in without disclosing the full scope of risks in their true, ugly actuality. Patty Faussett Owner and Moderator of on E-groups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2001 Report Share Posted January 15, 2001 The interesting thing, , is that people who get other implants also have problems like us. The symptoms we suffer are also suffered by those with chin implants, cheek implants, silicone lip injections, nose implants, calf implants, penile implants, testicular implants, TMJ implants, finger joints, foot implants, shunts, and any other area of the body you can think of to put an implant, made out of silicone elastomer or metals. Studies have documented this occurence, and we have testimony of these people as well. Look through our archives for the studies and you will see them. In the three years that I have been involved with the implant issue, I have seen dozens of women present their stories with the same symptoms. There are thousands of MedWatch reports on file with the FDA testifying to the adverse affects experienced from saline implants. Many of the women come and go on the groups, so there are thousands of women in America and around the world suffering from their implants, or have suffered, removed the implants, and moved on with their lives, but are not public with their stories. We just don't know how many there are, but we see more and more of them everyday. Ilena Rosenthal has hundreds and hundreds of women on her list. Denial is so easy to be in. Nobody wants to even consider having to take out their implants after spending all that money, time and energy getting them. It is a horrible joke, and hard to believe that this injustice exists. We've all asked the same questions...why me? It is a hard place to be in, and I sympathize with you, . I am sorry for all of us. Take care, God bless, Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: DeBolt egroups Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 7:44 AM Subject: RE: ???? for Patty I feel like I am in denial right now. Like, it must be something other than these implants. No one ever told me that it was going to affect my health in weird ways like this. The surgery was so expensive, people get other foreign plates and rods etc. put in their bodies, and I am sure you have heard and felt all these same things? Haven't you? Another surgery? How many others are out there like me? How many are on this support group? How many women have had their inplants taken out? Are they getting better? Why me? DeBoltKCC Nursing Student -----Original Message-----From: Patty [mailto:faussettdp@...]Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 10:25 AM egroupsSubject: Re: ???? for Patty , My implants were Saline filled, McGhan textured, under the muscle. The problems that the women had with silicon gel implants are also being experienced by women who have saline implants, so no, it really doesn't matter what type of implant you had. The fact is that your immune system and other bodily functions become stressed and buckle under the impact of a foreign object. You could be reacting to either the silicone shell (and textured implants provide many more surface areas for cellular contact than smooth ones), or a fungal pathogen or mycobacteria from the implant itself. Unfortunately, no one knows at this time. I would venture to guess at this point in time, if you are beginning to have weird medical problems that you never had before and the only change in your life has been the implants, then you are probably reacting negatively to them. Your only real hope of recovery of your health is number one, to get the implants out. From there, you need to work on restoring your health with a lifestyle based on natural foods and avoidance of toxins. I hate to see you go through this, . Please keep us informed of what you are feeling and experiencing, and we'll be here to help you any way we can. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: DeBolt egroups Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 5:44 AM Subject: RE: ???? for Patty Patty, Were these due to Silicone implants, or Saline? Does it really matter? I have Saline implants, had them put in last year around this time. I am having some weird medical problems. That is the reason for my concern and curiousity. Thanx so much for your time ) DeBoltKCC Nursing Student -----Original Message-----From: Patty [mailto:faussettdp@...]Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:11 PM egroupsSubject: Re: ???? for Patty , I experienced increasing fatigue to the point of being unable to function normally, (but sleep did not refresh me in the least), visual disturbances, spaciness in my head, brain fog, memory problems, inability to concentrate, sleeplessness, night sweats and heart palpitations. These were the initial devastating symptoms. Others followed these, such as muscle twitching, stiff neck pain, swollen lymph glands, tingling in the extremities, and other neurological manifestations. All have resolved. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: DeBolt egroups Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 5:17 PM Subject: RE: ???? for Patty Patty, What were the symptoms (that you speak of in this letter), which you experienced at around eight months? DeBoltKCC Nursing Student -----Original Message-----From: Patty [mailto:faussettdp@...]Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 6:07 PMethics@...Cc: egroupsSubject: study on ethics and morality of cosmetic surgery To Dr. Hudson, I was given your website address from a former patient of yours. She has now become a part of my Support group for women harmed by saline implants. I wanted to share with you some of my thoughts regarding the moral and ethical issues of breast augmentation surgery. I myself have been a victim of this deceptive surgery. I had saline implants put in May of 1997, McGhan textured, 450cc overfilled to 500cc, under the muscle. I was told that they would go with me to my grave. Everything was fine for about 8 months. Then my world crashed as my immune system buckled under the stress of having an implant in my body. I suffered devastating symptoms that destroyed my happy life and filled it with pain and anguish instead. Through the Internet, I found support from thousands of other women who had similarly suffered from their implants, both silicone gel and saline. These symptoms are no coincidence. Once you read the same stories over and over again, year after year, from women from all backgrounds, social status, financial status, age groups, there is no denying that women are being harmed by their implants, including those that are saline. It has been almost 3 years to the day that I got sick, and 2 years, 10 and a half months since explant, and I am proud to report that ALL of my symptoms have abated and I am once again a happy and healthy individual. If I had not removed the implants, I doubt I could tell you that. The moral and ethical dilemma comes from the plastic surgeons neglect in telling women of the true dangers of breast implants. So many women on my group have stated that had they known the real dangers, they never would have gotten implants. I have also been rewarded with letters from women saying THANK YOU FOR THIS GROUP!, stating that they have cancelled their surgeries because of the information we have given them through our own research, experiences, and recoveries. If you are not telling women that they risk their health, their jobs, their financial well being, and their self-esteem should their implants fail them, you are being deceptive. You are not giving them full information about the surgery and the effects of implants, and therefore, they cannot give you full informed consent. I have heard too many sad, heart breaking stories about implants destroying lives to not speak up about this, given the opportunity. I urge you to check out the facts yourself. Be true. Have integrity. Do the right thing. Find out what is happening to some women as a result of their implants. And then ask yourself, do you want to be responsible for their ill health if you don't warn them ahead of time that this is a very real possibility? I know that not all women will get as sick as I was, but until medical science can come up with real solutions to the illnesses being presented as a result of breast implants, the responsibility for these medical disasters rests on the shoulders of those who are putting them in without disclosing the full scope of risks in their true, ugly actuality. 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