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It's very possible that that your child could be lactose intolerant, a very common occurrence in those of us with celiac/gluten sensitivity. Interestingly, while milk cannot be not tolerated, yogurt and hard cheeses (parmesan, some cheddar, etc) ARE tolerated. Yogurt has the live cultures and hard cheeses have a lot less of the casein. Sometimes people can tolerate sheep or goat milk products. I personally can't tolerate anything except greek yogurt in small amounts. Good luck figuring all of this out! Feel free to give me a call if you'd like more information; he may also benefit from a good probiotic, if he's not already on one.CheersBonnie

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On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:38 AM, wrote:celiacBayareaMessages In This Digest (16 Messages)1a.Re: Grain fed Meat? /Now Milk From: Ivers1b.Grain fed Meat? /Now Milk From: Pam Newbury1c.Re: Grain fed Milk? From: Harper1d.Grain fed Milk? From: Pam Newbury2a.Re: Grain fed Meat? From: Cheryl and Jim Lucas3a.SF Cups and Cakes Makes GF Cupcakes!!! From: Sharon P R3b.Re: SF Cups and Cakes Makes GF Cupcakes!!! From: 3c.Re: SF Cups and Cakes Makes GF Cupcakes--not really gf... From: TrVerb@...4.SF Sweet Inspiration has GF Cakes From: Sharon P R5a.Re: treat recipes From: Cara5b.Re: treat recipes From: Cara6.GI Referrals From: Cara7a.Dinners Delivered! From: Cara7b.Re: Dinners Delivered! [1 Attachment] From: Dana Hoppe7c.Re: Dinners Delivered! From: Cara8.Pizza in AZ and Portland From: CaraView All Topics | Create New TopicMessages1a.Re: Grain fed Meat? /Now MilkPosted by: " Ivers" ericivers@... ericiversThu Mar 11, 2010 9:27 am (PST)First, cows are very seldom fed gluten containing grain. Corn, maybe, cornsilage certainly, alfalfa and other hay, sure, but almost never wheat,barley, or rye. So, milk is listed as gluten free. Here's a link.http://www.gicare.com/diets/Gluten-Free.aspx< /message/9299;_ylc=X3oDMTJxdHRpZW5xBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzgyOTcxODAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3NDYzNTQ5BG1zZ0lkAzkyOTkEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTI2ODMwMDUxMw-->If you find something that shows cow milk having been tested and found tocontain gluten, please post it. It could explain a lot if that's the case.< /message/9299;_ylc=X3oDMTJxdHRpZW5xBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzgyOTcxODAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3NDYzNTQ5BG1zZ0lkAzkyOTkEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTI2ODMwMDUxMw-->Back to topReply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (4)1b.Grain fed Meat? /Now MilkPosted by: "Pam Newbury" pknewbury@... pknewburyThu Mar 11, 2010 12:41 pm (PST)Actually, when I noticed many years ago that sometimes milk seemed to causea celiac reaction in my son and other times not, I investigated what thecows in the dairy whose milk I bought were fed. After much persistentcalling, I spoke to the person in charge of what the cows were fed. I foundthat while these cows were not fed wheat, they were sometimes fed a grainmash that included barley. They were fed different things on differentdays. This explained why the reaction to milk was inconsistent. Sincethen, we have avoided whole milk. We don't seem to have any problem withice cream, cream (I think because so little of the protein is in theseproducts), cheese, or yogurt (I think because the proteins are changed byenzymes in processing). This seems to work well for us. We have never hada problem with meat (plain, unseasoned meat, that is).While I have never seen any tests of cow's milk for gluten, the evidence ofmy observation of my child's reaction plus the results of my investigationinto the feeding of dairy cows was all I needed to make a decision for myfamily. Each celiac must make a decision they are comfortable with as totheir tolerance of milk. Perhaps if enough celiacs raise the issue, research will follow with testingof cows' milk, and who knows, maybe producers will follow with milk fromgluten-free cows.PamFrom: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of IversSent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:26 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Grain fed Meat? /Now MilkFirst, cows are very seldom fed gluten containing grain. Corn, maybe, cornsilage certainly, alfalfa and other hay, sure, but almost never wheat,barley, or rye. So, milk is listed as gluten free. Here's alink.http://www.gicare.com/diets/Gluten-Free.aspx< /message/9299;_ylc=X3oDMTJxdHRpZW5xBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzgyOTcxODAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3NDYzNTQ5BG1zZ0lkAzkyOTkEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTI2ODMwMDUxMw--> If you find something that shows cow milk having been tested and found tocontain gluten, please post it. It could explain a lot if that's the case.Back to topReply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (4)1c.Re: Grain fed Milk?Posted by: "Harper" flatcat9@... autonomous2Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:51 pm (PST)Does non-fat milk bother you? I'm not being facetious; I wonder if you mean that milk with fat removed affects you differently.H.Since then, we have avoided whole milk. -----Original Message-----From: Pam Newbury <pknewburyearthlink (DOT) net> Sent: Thu, Mar 11, 2010 12:41 pmSubject: [ ] Grain fed Meat? /Now MilkActually, when I noticed many years ago that sometimes milkseemed to cause a celiac reaction in my son and other times not, I investigatedwhat the cows in the dairy whose milk I bought were fed. After muchpersistent calling, I spoke to the person in charge of what the cows werefed. I found that while these cows were not fed wheat, they weresometimes fed a grain mash that included barley. They were fed differentthings on different days. This explained why the reaction to milk wasinconsistent. Since then, we have avoided whole milk. Wedon’t seem to have any problem with ice cream, cream (I think because solittle of the protein is in these products), cheese, or yogurt (I think becausethe proteins are changed by enzymes in processing). This seems to workwell for us. We have never had a problem with meat (plain, unseasonedmeat, that is).While I have never seen any tests of cow’s milk forgluten, the evidence of my observation of my child’s reaction plus theresults of my investigation into the feeding of dairy cows was all I needed tomake a decision for my family. Each celiac must make a decision they arecomfortable with as to their tolerance of milk. Perhaps if enough celiacs raise the issue, research will followwith testing of cows’ milk, and who knows, maybe producers will followwith milk from gluten-free cows.PamFrom: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of IversSent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:26 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Grain fed Meat? /Now MilkFirst, cows are very seldom fed gluten containinggrain. Corn, maybe, corn silage certainly, alfalfa and other hay, sure,but almost never wheat, barley, or rye. So, milk is listed as glutenfree. Here's a link.http://www.gicare.com/diets/Gluten-Free.aspxIf you find something that shows cow milk having been tested and found tocontain gluten, please post it. It could explain a lot if that's thecase.Back to topReply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (4)1d.Grain fed Milk?Posted by: "Pam Newbury" pknewbury@... pknewburyThu Mar 11, 2010 6:04 pm (PST)Sorry, my reference to “whole milk†was not very clear. What I should have said was that any milk that contains protein (whole milk, low fat, 2%, skim milk, etc) seems to be a problem. Cream, butter, sour cream and other dairy products that are mostly the fat (cream) where the lighter milk that contains protein has been separated don’t cause a problem. Hopefully that makes more sense.PamFrom: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of HarperSent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Grain fed Milk?Does non-fat milk bother you? I'm not being facetious; I wonder if you mean that milk with fat removed affects you differently.H.Since then, we have avoided whole milk. Back to topReply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (4)2a.Re: Grain fed Meat?Posted by: "Cheryl and Jim Lucas" csjdlucas@...Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:54 am (PST)Thanks,CA OMA From: flatcat9aolDate: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:57:14 -0500Subject: Re: [ ] Grain fed Meat?From celiacdisease.about.com:Question: Can There Be Gluten In Breast Milk?Answer: Yes, gluten has been found in human breast milk. This means that if a non-celiac mother is nursing a baby or a toddler with confirmed celiac disease, the mother needs to maintain a gluten-free diet. If neither the baby nor the mother has confirmed celiac disease, the mother should continue to eat gluten, even if there is a history of celiac disease in the family, because there is a chance that exposure to gluten in breast milk will actually help the baby to develop a normal immune response to gluten. -----Original Message-----From: Cheryl and Jim Lucas <csjdlucashotmail> Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:34 pmSubject: RE: [ ] Grain fed Meat?Can you verify the breast milk statement? I thought that gluten did NOT pass through.CA OMA From: l@...Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:38:52 -0800Subject: Re: [ ] Grain fed Meat?On the same note, what about grain-fed dairy products?I've read that gluten is passed on in human breast milk if the mother eats gluten. So what about grain-fed cows? Would there be gluten in cheese and milk? If not why not? I wondered about this a year or two ago and I know someone who is celiac and only eating cheese from Ireland where supposedly all cows are grass-fed...Back to topReply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (6)3a.SF Cups and Cakes Makes GF Cupcakes!!!Posted by: "Sharon P R" hosnar@... hosnarThu Mar 11, 2010 11:58 am (PST)Must call the day before. $3.25 each. Haven't tried it yet. If you do, please post here.http://www.cupsandcakesbakery.com/CCB/Flavors.htmlS__________________________________________________________Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/Back to topReply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3)3b.Re: SF Cups and Cakes Makes GF Cupcakes!!!Posted by: " " katie.alin@... guitarmy06Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:30 pm (PST)Is it in a dedicated facility?On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Sharon P R <hosnarhotmail> wrote:>>> Must call the day before. $3.25 each. Haven't tried it yet. If you do,> please post here.> http://www.cupsandcakesbakery.com/CCB/Flavors.html>> S>> ------------------------------> Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.<http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/>> >-- Alin, OwnerMiglets Gluten Free BakeryFresh, Sweet and Made With Love925-818-0087katie.alingmailwww.migletsgf.comBack to topReply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3)3c.Re: SF Cups and Cakes Makes GF Cupcakes--not really gf...Posted by: "TrVerb@..." TrVerb@... mamatimes2kidsThu Mar 11, 2010 2:28 pm (PST)I'd say these cupcakes are a no-go for anyone with celiac: From their website: "Gluten Free:We use Bob’s Red Mill Organic Gluten-Free Baking Mix for our cupcakes. Please note that while we make every effort to clean and disinfect all of our utensils, bowls, etc, we are not an exclusively gluten-free bakery, and therefore do not recommend ordering through us if you have a severe gluten allergy."http://www.cupsandcakesbakery.com/CCB/Diet_Info_2.html-----Original Message-----From: <katie.alingmail> Sent: Thu, Mar 11, 2010 1:29 pmSubject: Re: [ ] SF Cups and Cakes Makes GF Cupcakes!!!Is it in a dedicated facility? On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Sharon P R <hosnarhotmail> wrote:Must call the day before. $3.25 each. Haven't tried it yet. If you do, please post here.http://www.cupsandcakesbakery.com/CCB/Flavors.htmlSHotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. -- Alin, OwnerMiglets Gluten Free BakeryFresh, Sweet and Made With Love925-818-0087katie.alingmailwww.migletsgf.comBack to topReply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3)4.SF Sweet Inspiration has GF CakesPosted by: "Sharon P R" hosnar@... hosnarThu Mar 11, 2010 12:19 pm (PST)Made to order. Only 2 flavors, orange almond and mocha almond.http://www.sweetinspirationbakery.com/sweets/index.html__________________________________________________________Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/Back to topReply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1)5a.Re: treat recipesPosted by: "Cara" cara@... cara_deuriosteThu Mar 11, 2010 12:22 pm (PST)Hi -How might I reach you? Thank you,Cara de UriosteFrom: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of LibonatiSent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 6:25 AM~ Subject: [ ] Re:treat recipesHere are easy-to-make and delicious recipes for:SconesPumpkin BreadBanana Quick BreadCashew Almond Quick Breadhttp://www.glutenfreeworks.com/recipes.php- Libonatiwww.glutenfreeworks.com"Recognizing Celiac Disease"The Complete Guide to Recognizing, Diagnosing and Managing Celiac DiseaseMore than 300 signs, symptoms, associated disorders and complicationsrelated to Celiac Diseasewww.recognizingceliacdisease.comBecome Your Own Health Advocate - Save $15 through March 31st!Back to topReply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (6)5b.Re: treat recipesPosted by: "Cara" cara@... cara_deuriosteThu Mar 11, 2010 12:54 pm (PST)650-400-3829 is my cell and the best way to reach me. I am in California.From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of CaraSent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:23 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Re:treat recipesHi -How might I reach you? Thank you,Cara de UriosteFrom: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of LibonatiSent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 6:25 AM~ Subject: [ ] Re:treat recipesHere are easy-to-make and delicious recipes for:SconesPumpkin BreadBanana Quick BreadCashew Almond Quick Breadhttp://www.glutenfreeworks.com/recipes.php- Libonatiwww.glutenfreeworks.com"Recognizing Celiac Disease"The Complete Guide to Recognizing, Diagnosing and Managing Celiac DiseaseMore than 300 signs, symptoms, associated disorders and complicationsrelated to Celiac Diseasewww.recognizingceliacdisease.comBecome Your Own Health Advocate - Save $15 through March 31st!Back to topReply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (6)6.GI ReferralsPosted by: "Cara" cara@... cara_deuriosteThu Mar 11, 2010 1:12 pm (PST)Hello Everyone -I would like to consolidate two items for the group:1. A list of doctors/nutritionists you have all found helpful in yourrecovery of Celiac.2. Support groups/gathering(Draegers), speakers to attend on a regularbasis.We have been using Whole Child Wellness in Belmont with great success!Take Care,Carap.s. Please send all to my email at: caradeurisoteBack to topReply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1)7a.Dinners Delivered!Posted by: "Cara" cara@... cara_deuriosteThu Mar 11, 2010 2:13 pm (PST)[Attachment(s) from Cara included below] Greetings –Are you tired of cooking? Would you like some alternatives? Is takeouttoo expensive? If you are like me, you spend most of your free timeshopping and cooking healthy and wholesome meals for your family. Wouldn’tit be wonderful to have affordable and healthy meals delivered to your homeevery week?I am working with a Janice Whiting of Gourmet Dream to create gluten anddairy free meals to be delivered each week. The menu is flexible and offersmain entrees and side dishes. The pricing should be around $28 for a mainentrée for a small family. Sides run $10 - $12. Delivery will be onMondays and Thursdays (you can choose one or both). Delivery runs all theway from San up to Hillsboro.The food will be cooked with dedicated equipment and when no other glutenchefs are around to avoid any risk of cross contamination. All ingredientswill be carefully evaluated to maintain a safe product. The sizing of the entrees (if that is all one is eating ) will feed 2-3adults if there are no sides added. However, each entrée contains aboutone pound of meat so if you add a vegetable and side dish it should beplenty for four. For those of you who are not gluten or dairy free, Janice offers an arrayof healthy gluten entrees as well. So you can get a feel for the types of items Janice will be offering asample menu is enclosed. Each week GF and DF items will be clearly labeledfor ordering.I am visiting the facility on Monday to sample food, review sizing, and mostimportantly look at safety standards for those who cannot tolerate crosscontamination. If you are interested in this type of a service on a regular basis pleaselet me now and I will keep you in the loop for future communications. Also,if you know someone who might be interested please pass their name along tome. Janice is hoping to roll this out in the next couple of weeks.Take Care,CaraAttachment(s) from Cara1 of 1 File(s) To_Go_Menu 2-15-10.pdfBack to topReply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3)7b.Re: Dinners Delivered! [1 Attachment]Posted by: "Dana Hoppe" danahoppe@... danahoppeThu Mar 11, 2010 3:38 pm (PST)Cara, I am happy to hear that my referral to Marisa and Janice at Gourmet Dreams is progressing. I just wanted to make clear that this is the same kitchen that I use. I have my own seperate equipment that I use and keep covered to make all of my products and I am very careful about cross contamination. If you need gluten free and/or dairy free baked goods to go along with the meals, I would appreciate it if you would consider trying my products. I can provide them to be delivered with the meals.Thanks, Dana Hoppe, OwnerGluten Free Gourmet, LLC408-887-6141www.gluten-free-gourmet.comhttp://www.facebook.com/pages/Saratoga-CA/Gluten-Free-Gourmet-LLC/238175996382?ref=mfhttp://blog.gluten-free-gourmet.com/________________________________From: Cara <caradeurioste>Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 2:13:23 PMSubject: [ ] Dinners Delivered! [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Cara included below] Greetings – Are you tired of cooking? Would you like some alternatives? Is takeout too expensive? If you are like me, you spend most of your free time shopping and cooking healthy and wholesome meals for your family. Wouldn’t it be wonderful to have affordable and healthy meals delivered to your home every week? I am working with a Janice Whiting of Gourmet Dream to create gluten and dairy free meals to be delivered each week. The menu is flexible and offers main entrees and side dishes. The pricing should be around $28 for a main entrée for a small family. Sides run $10 - $12. Delivery will be on Mondays and Thursdays (you can choose one or both). Delivery runs all the way from San up to Hillsboro. The food will be cooked with dedicated equipment and when no other gluten chefs are around to avoid any risk of cross contamination. All ingredients will be carefully evaluated to maintain a safe product. The sizing of the entrees (if that is all one is eating ) will feed 2-3 adults if there are no sides added. However, each entrée contains about one pound of meat so if you add a vegetable and side dish it should be plenty for four. For those of you who are not gluten or dairy free, Janice offers an array of healthy gluten entrees as well. So you can get a feel for the types of items Janice will be offering a sample menu is enclosed. Each week GF and DF items will be clearly labeled for ordering. I am visiting the facility on Monday to sample food, review sizing, and most importantly look at safety standards for those who cannot tolerate cross contamination. If you are interested in this type of a service on a regular basis please let me now and I will keep you in the loop for future communications. Also, if you know someone who might be interested please pass their name along to me. Janice is hoping to roll this out in the next couple of weeks. Take Care, CaraBack to topReply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3)7c.Re: Dinners Delivered!Posted by: "Cara" cara@... cara_deuriosteThu Mar 11, 2010 5:04 pm (PST)Thanks Dana! Love this idea. I will discuss with Janice.CFrom: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Dana HoppeSent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Dinners Delivered!Cara, I am happy to hear that my referral to Marisa and Janice at Gourmet Dreams is progressing. I just wanted to make clear that this is the same kitchen that I use. I have my own seperate equipment that I use and keep covered to make all of my products and I am very careful about cross contamination. If you need gluten free and/or dairy free baked goods to go along with the meals, I would appreciate it if you would consider trying my products. I can provide them to be delivered with the meals.Thanks, Dana Hoppe, OwnerGluten Free Gourmet, LLC408-887-6141www.gluten-free-gourmet.com <http://www.gluten-free-gourmet.com/> <http://www.facebook.com/pages/Saratoga-CA/Gluten-Free-Gourmet-LLC/238175996382?ref=mf> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Saratoga-CA/Gluten-Free-Gourmet-LLC/238175996382?ref=mf<http://blog.gluten-free-gourmet.com/> http://blog.gluten-free-gourmet.com/_____ From: Cara <caradeurioste>Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 2:13:23 PMSubject: [ ] Dinners Delivered! [1 Attachment]Greetings –Are you tired of cooking? Would you like some alternatives? Is takeout too expensive? If you are like me, you spend most of your free time shopping and cooking healthy and wholesome meals for your family. Wouldn’t it be wonderful to have affordable and healthy meals delivered to your home every week?I am working with a Janice Whiting of Gourmet Dream to create gluten and dairy free meals to be delivered each week. The menu is flexible and offers main entrees and side dishes. The pricing should be around $28 for a main entrée for a small family. Sides run $10 - $12. Delivery will be on Mondays and Thursdays (you can choose one or both). Delivery runs all the way from San up to Hillsboro.The food will be cooked with dedicated equipment and when no other gluten chefs are around to avoid any risk of cross contamination. All ingredients will be carefully evaluated to maintain a safe product. The sizing of the entrees (if that is all one is eating ) will feed 2-3 adults if there are no sides added. However, each entrée contains about one pound of meat so if you add a vegetable and side dish it should be plenty for four. For those of you who are not gluten or dairy free, Janice offers an array of healthy gluten entrees as well. So you can get a feel for the types of items Janice will be offering a sample menu is enclosed. Each week GF and DF items will be clearly labeled for ordering.I am visiting the facility on Monday to sample food, review sizing, and most importantly look at safety standards for those who cannot tolerate cross contamination. If you are interested in this type of a service on a regular basis please let me now and I will keep you in the loop for future communications. Also, if you know someone who might be interested please pass their name along to me. Janice is hoping to roll this out in the next couple of weeks.Take Care,CaraBack to topReply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3)8.Pizza in AZ and PortlandPosted by: "Cara" cara@... cara_deuriosteThu Mar 11, 2010 8:56 pm (PST)Hello Everyone -Picazzo's has GF pizza in various AZ locations and Portland, OR.Carahttp://www.picazzos.com/Back to topReply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1)RECENT ACTIVITY2New MembersVisit Your GroupSitebuilderBuild a web sitequickly & easilywith Sitebuilder.Search AdsGet new customers.List your web sitein Search.Dogs Owners GroupJoin Do More For Dogspet communityNeed to Reply?Click one of the "Reply" links to respond to a specific message in the Daily Digest.Create New Topic | Visit Your Group on the WebMessages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar Change settings via the Web ( ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Individual | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe