urinary tract infection

[Guest guest]

I never tried Bee's suggestions, but would. I drank cranberry

juice. Try to get one w/little sugar, but just drink it. Cranberry

pills will help, too. Cranberries alone are terribly bitter, and

despite my resolve, couldn't eat them daily.

they say the c'berry juice prevents bacteria from sticking to the

walls of the urethra as you pee, so it doesn't burn.

Glenn

>

> > Speaking of which, in case I've got myself the beginnings of a

UTI,

> > what do you guys recommend as the best source for curing it as a

> > Candida person. I'm not eating fruit right now and I don't know

if

> > Cranberry pills will be a no-no or not. But, I might need some

> >help for my urinary tract if too much junk is coming out of my

> >system and irritating it.

>

> The answer is lots of garlic. It contains sulphur which they give

> you if you have a urinary tract infection. Take 6 large cloves

> crushed with food (spread throughout the day)and also drink make

> garlic tea (in my article).

[Guest guest]

Goldenseal, cranberry capsules not the juice, lots of vitamin C and I've also

found anti-histamines to be helpful. However, if you see blood or don't get any

relief this way in about 2 days (if you can stand it) you'll need to go see a

doctor. Now there is an Rx that you can get that is bladder/UTI specific but

it's quite a harsh med and I've used it once. the only time they've ever told me

not to use the entire Rx and to stop when I feel better. Can't for the life of

me remember the name but I'm sure you could ask a pharmacist or doctor.

autumnskaii <autumnskaii@...> wrote:

Help!

I have a UTI, and can't take antibiotics--I'm battling systemic

candida!

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[Guest guest]

Thank you SO much!!!!!!!!

--- Sue <suzt77@...> wrote:

> Goldenseal, cranberry capsules not the juice, lots

> of vitamin C and I've also found anti-histamines to

> be helpful. However, if you see blood or don't get

> any relief this way in about 2 days (if you can

> stand it) you'll need to go see a doctor. Now there

> is an Rx that you can get that is bladder/UTI

> specific but it's quite a harsh med and I've used it

> once. the only time they've ever told me not to use

> the entire Rx and to stop when I feel better. Can't

> for the life of me remember the name but I'm sure

> you could ask a pharmacist or doctor.

>

>

> autumnskaii <autumnskaii@...> wrote:

> Help!

> I have a UTI, and can't take antibiotics--I'm

> battling systemic

> candida!

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Doctors usually prescribe sulfa based medicine for UTI and antibiotics as a

second choice for those who can't tolorate the sulfa.

Pam from MI

-- urinary tract infection

Help!

I have a UTI, and can't take antibiotics--I'm battling systemic

candida! Does anyone know of alternative treatments for UTI, or are

antibiotics a must in this case?

Thanks so much for anyone taking the time to respond w/good info...

[Guest guest]

I have posted this many times on the forum but Ambrotose will prevent

future UTI's and kill candida because after you consume it the cells

surfaces will not allow bacteria to stick. If you have one now since

you dont have any ambrotose it would not be a good idea to wait. IF you

get a lot of them, as I used to becuasae I was loaded with Candida, then

you would want to start on AMbrotose and rid yourself of the candida and

also the UTI's.

www.GotHealth.myglycostore.com online store

There are many clinical studies to back up these claims if anyone is

interested.

autumnskaii wrote:

> Help!

> I have a UTI, and can't take antibiotics--I'm battling systemic

> candida! Does anyone know of alternative treatments for UTI, or are

> antibiotics a must in this case?

> Thanks so much for anyone taking the time to respond w/good info...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi There

I cured a 6 month bladder problem with Just Pomegranite Juice form the

health food store.Over 3 weeks I drank 3 bottles.Each person is an

individual and needs to seek out the right amount for themselves.I did try

Just Cranberry Juice but it didn't work.

Kathy

From

Maine

[Guest guest]

> I have posted this many times on the forum but Ambrotose will prevent

> future UTI's and kill candida because after you consume it the cells

> surfaces will not allow bacteria to stick. ...start on AMbrotose and rid

yourself of

> the candida and also the UTI's.

Correction - Ambrotose does not kill candida, and what's more, at

least two of the sugars in it are usable by candida. This is the

kind of information you get from Mannatech dealer zealots and it

doesn't matter how many times you tell them it ain;t so, this kind of

thing keeps cropping up.

is partly correct on cell adhesion of UTIs; howver, many

proponents and salespeople of Mannatech's Ambrotose recommend huge

doses to combat things that are not within it's realm of influence. I

know; I've been a Mannatech distributor for a couple of years and I

have participated in the discussion group of Mannatech dealers.

Essentially, many maintain that if one dose doesn't work, keep taking

more and add more products. After awhile the poor customer at great

expense is up to a half dozen scoops of mor than one of the wrong

thing. The dealers are simply guessing. Such is the unscientific

approach of zealots.

There's no reason at all to use larg amounts of Ambrotose for

something as simple as a UTI. The active ingredient against bacterial

adhesion on the bladder and ureter wall is natural D-mannose, which

you can buy pretty cheap online. Ambrose contains only a tiny amount

of D-mannose and that's why you'd need lots of scoops.

Not to say Ambrotose isn't good for you, but it isn't the right tool

for this particular job. (no offense meant, , you didn't know)

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

so in a nutshell,

What the heck did you all just say????

Di

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Duncan,

> >

> > Correction - Ambrotose does not kill candida, and what's more, at

> > least two of the sugars in it are usable by candida.

>

> SO you are saying that the clinical studies that say it kills

candida

> are wrong, and you are also saying that my candida really did not

go

> away from this??

In this test tube study done with mouse cells, the immune cells were

stimulated by acemannan, a component of aloe vera, not an essential

sugar in the Ambrotose.

Stuart RW;Lefkowitz DL;Lincoln JA;. Upregulation of phagocytosis and

candidicidal activity of macrophages exposed to the immunostimulant

acemannan. Int J Immunopharmacol. 1997 Feb; 19: 75-82

This study, also a mouse test tube study, indicates chitin is

superior to mannose or n-acetylglucosamine to prvent candida adhsion

to the intestinal wall material (in the mouse, anyway).

Ghannoum MA;Abu EK;Ibrahim A;Stretton R;. Protection against Candida

albicans gastrointestinal colonization and dissemination by

saccharides in experimental animals. Microbios. 1991; 67: 95-105.

Those two studies comprise the total information Mannatech's official

information site has on it. It's still my understanding that candida

does not succumb directly to essential sugars.

> I have seen people

> with horrible candida, yellow toe nails, white tongue, chronic

vaginal

> infections that have cleared very quickly.

Yellow toe nails, white tongue and chronic vaginal infections does

not rule out any infection or lead to a diagnosis of candida there

even if it's properly diagnosed elsewhere. And, because those

infections are essentially outside the body as far as the body is

concerned, stimulating the immune response, which is inside the body,

is unlikely to affect it. I think you lucked out.

> Perhaps you recommneded " huge doses " but I never have. The only

I'm glad you escaped that horrible but immnsely profitable frame of

mind, as I did Some of those distributors have clients who are

making a meal out of expensive Mannatech supplements, and they're

still not getting better bcause they are using the wrong approach.

> time I

> have recommended more was when someone was told they had 24 hours

to

> live. Then I gave 12 tsps. He did have a massive candida dieoff, I

guess

> that was a coincidence, but I think not since he had aids and had

been

> living on antibiotics and antifungals forever. Oh and he survived

just

> fine, another coincidence.

Reduced adhesion isn't dieoff. Perhaps coincidence is the wrong word

to use; I've used Ambrotose AO to help stop a supposedly fatal

autoimmune disorder so I'm quite aware that it works. Whatever was

killing the man was probably not HIV but a co-infection, and as the

research points out aloe vera stimulates the immune response.

> That is why they offer all kinds of training, which I have partaken

of.

> I don't know what associates you met, but I have the priviledge of

> working with some very educated professionals, and they are not

guessing

> when it comes to treating their patients.

mannashare/ contains lots of

misinformation passed off as product training. My associates who are

mainly nurses and a couple of Ph.D's don't buy it either.

> I have seen results with minimal

> use, and I have been taught there is quite a bit of the mannose.

OTher

> critics claim that it is mostly mannose.

OK, for about $30 you can buy around three months' worth of d-

mannose. That's abut 2/3 of a gram daily; quite a lot actually.

http://www.harvesthealth.com/utiedd.html

But we're off the subject because d-mannose does not kill candida.

Candida cell walls contain a lot of it; at best it's an anti-adhesion

tool and at worst the new candida cells might be eager to incorporate

it as a building material.

> You are mistaken in your assumption that I don't know. I am well

aware

> of what just mannose can do I used it for years. I am also well

aware

> that people with chronic bladder infections have alot more problems

> going on in their bodies and that is why they are having chronic

> infections.

Sorry about my mistaken assumption; it's just what I gleaned from

your phrasing. The root cause of bladder infection is recognised as

bowel dysbiosis and proximity in ladies, neither of which is

corrected with Ambrotose. But you knew that and you could have saved

me the trouble if you'd said so.

> SO sorry to be a " zealot " perhaps the reason why

> Mannatech associates get alittle passionate is because they were

sick

> and now they are well. That makes me get a little bit excited,

today and

> for my future.

No need for apologies, , and please don't take it as an insult

because I didn't label you, I wrote of the usual outcome on the rah-

rah Mannatech distributors list. That list allows no checks and

balances because only Mannatech products are discussed. So when their

hammer didn't work right away (no screwdriver was mentioned), many

novices on that list naively bought any Mannatech story that was

offered because the story they were given is that the hammer always

works. This gos on today, and many respondents have no opportunity to

get well under those circumstances.

I agree with you that the right product given in a timely manner at

the correct dosage can bring results that can make people wax

evangelical. In fact I do it myself, right, people?

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

> In a message dated 6/5/2005 2:24:05 PM Eastern Daylight

Time,

> duncancrow@s... writes:

>

> > in a nutshell, the active ingredient to fix a UTI, found in small

> > amounts in cranberry juice for example, is d-mannose. It's

cheap.

But is it cheaper than something like Cran-Actin? (not cheap)

Deanna

[Guest guest]

Heena wrote:

>

> Bee, thank you so much for taking the time to address my concerns.

I have been on bed rest for pretty much since the last time I wrote.

I feel a little better and ready to ask you some more questions.

==>I'm so glad you are feeling better Heena.

>

> Progress: ===>The following is very good too Heena. Keep up the

good work, except for the soy - please do not have it anymore. It is

doing you much more damage than it is good. Take liver tablets

instead.

> I am taking the Epsom Salt baths -working wonderfully.

> I have read a lot material from your files - they're full of

wonderful information.

> I apply coconut oil on my body - twice daily - works wonderfully

(my Eczema is under control & not so itchy...although I don't know

what the reason for it is?)

> I am weaning off from the Prednizone

> Not taking the strong antihistamines internally anymore

> Staying strict with the diet dont's..

> I stopped all supplements and anti-fungals

> I am still not taking any meat in my diet...it will take me

some time.

> I haven't given up soy milk yet

> Although I read in another one of your articles re. carrageenan --

i was wondering what that was - so thanks for clearing that up.

>

> Questions:

> I just started to note a few round patches of slightly lighter

skin around my inner shoulders and some on my diaphragm area. What

could these be? Am I starting to show deficiencies?

==>Lighter skin areas is definitely not normal, it indicates a lack

of nutrients but I do not know exactly which ones would contribute to

the problem. On a vegan diet you are lacking so many important

nutrients that can only be obtained from animal meats or eggs,

especially vitamin B12, animal protein and oil soluble vitamins and

other co-factors.

>

> I may have developed a Urinary Tract Infection...don't know how?

How do I effectively get rid of this while being on the diet..? Any

suggestions would be so appreciated.

==>Drink about 4-5 cups of garlic or ground clove tea per day, or

alternatively take oil of oregano or clove oil. Sage and thyme teas

will also help get rid of UTS if you cannot handle the antifungal

properties in garlic, cloves or oregano. Drink at least 4 cups per

day, up to 6 cups. You should also have the lemon juice and sea salt

in water in addition.

> Thank you again Bee for your support.

> humbly, Heena

==>You are so very welcome Heena. Bless you, but I'm the one that

should be humbled because of being able to help you!

Hugs, Bee