Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 In a message dated 9/3/04 12:15:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, palomino03@... writes: > She sells the entire thing for $800. Is there another for less > IF it works? You can email me privately I would like to hear the response on the list as I am also interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 In a message dated 9/3/04 12:15:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, palomino03@... writes: > Anyway the woman is selling a ozone machine Ozone definitely kills cancer but it can be unstable. I saw it turn a hard tumor in my dog's leg to mush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 I went to a EarthFare group meeting on raw food and how to detox 7 years worth in 7 days (703 detox). I've not had a computer for over a year so have forgot all the specifics on it..am borrowing one now at a friends. Anyway the woman is selling a ozone machine that can be used for 1) to purify water, 2)a Mr. Bubble thing you scrub yourself with and 3) you do colonics. She said it is something like 9 ozone but might not remember that right. She claims it cures cancer etc that all diseases start in the colon due to toxins.. My mother had heard of an ozone machine that she wanted to get for my grandmother as she heard it would cure arthritis etc.The machine is from Mexico and sold in CA. It's called something like UltraSun. Is anyone familiar with this? Is it possible to detox that much that quick? She sells the entire thing for $800. Is there another for less IF it works? You can email me privately Kim PS the guy she learned about it from cured himself and his name is Bud Curtis..he wrote a book something about a thorn and God.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 In a message dated 9/3/04 7:11:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, moonbeam@... writes: > In the end I decided that it was easier, cheaper, and just as effective to > use the hot water, dilute > food grade peroxide bath with DMSO added. This is what I would use instead > of an ozone > generator. > In the end we stopped using the generator and just used the above hot bath > twice a day. > Could you go into details as to how to prepare and use? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 In a message dated 9/3/04 7:11:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, moonbeam@... writes: > I.V. use if a doctor is available do that - in Germany doctors can do that, > but not where I live. > There are people that will do an IV of ozone. I have had it done and felt marvelous afterward. I also had it done for my dog. Hans Neiper switched from ozone to carnivora because he found the latter to be more stable. I still have great faith in ozone. It is crucial to go very slowly so that your liver/kidney's etc can eliminate all the toxins and dead cancer. If you go too fast you will make your body toxic and this can be lethal. I am fairly familiar with ozone as many years ago I used to sell the machines to holistic doctors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Hi, I studied these things and this topic intensively 10 years ago. I made my own ozone generator which my sister used against her cancer. There are a number of problems with this topic. 1. in order to use a proper ozone generator one needs a bottle of medical grade oxygen. Where I live, this medical oxygen can only be obtained with a doctors prescription. That is very clever isn't it. It was very difficult for me to get a bottle of medical grade oxygen. And I doubt that I could get a bottle today at all. One should not use an ozone generator without the bottle of medical oxygen as otherwise, toxic nitrogen compounds will be created. This makes ozone generators difficult to use as it can be difficult to get the medical oxygen. The only time one would breathe the ozone would be if one had lung cancer. Rectal administration is normal for all types of cancer. I.V. use if a doctor is available do that - in Germany doctors can do that, but not where I live. It may be true that ozone kills cancer but that is of little relevance due to the above difficulties. Cost is another factor by my home made ozone generator cost less than 100$. Used an ultraviolet tube 3 feet long and double glass tubes and O ring seals, with the light within these tubes, gas passing around the light. In the end I decided that it was easier, cheaper, and just as effective to use the hot water, dilute food grade peroxide bath with DMSO added. This is what I would use instead of an ozone generator. In the end we stopped using the generator and just used the above hot bath twice a day. I would use the generator for lung cancer though, as the ozone gets directly to the target site. If there was bowel cancer then it may be of benefit also, through rectal administration. Enema before rectal use. If one could get free ozone therapy at the hospital than that would be great, but that is not the case. Good for HIV, HEP C too. Medical ozone can be injected into suitable tumors as can very small quantities of food grade peroxide or ethanol, by doctors. Ozone generators are not the way to go due to cost and difficulty getting medical oxygen. Rather - oral oxygen drops (naclo2 6% or naclo3 6% solutions) twice daily, not oral peroxide. Dilute hot water peroxide bath with DMSO. These two things will give the oxygen. Creams with food grade peroxide (4% to 6%) and DMSO for topical cancers. Oxygen therapy should be assisted by immune stimulation therapy and enzyme therapy. moonbeam was here ........ cures for cancer From: " palomino03 " <palomino03@...> Date sent: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 04:13:19 -0000 Subject: ozone machine? Send reply to: cures for cancer > I went to a EarthFare group meeting on raw food and how to detox 7 > years worth in 7 days (703 detox). I've not had a computer for over a > year so have forgot all the specifics on it..am borrowing one now at > a friends. > > Anyway the woman is selling a ozone machine that can be used for 1) > to purify water, 2)a Mr. Bubble thing you scrub yourself with and 3) > you do colonics. She said it is something like 9 ozone but might not > remember that right. She claims it cures cancer etc that all diseases > start in the colon due to toxins.. My mother had heard of an ozone > machine that she wanted to get for my grandmother as she heard it > would cure arthritis etc.The machine is from Mexico and sold in CA. > It's called something like UltraSun. > > Is anyone familiar with this? Is it possible to detox that much that > quick? She sells the entire thing for $800. Is there another for less > IF it works? You can email me privately Kim PS the guy she learned > about it from cured himself and his name is Bud Curtis..he wrote a > book something about a thorn and God.. > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending > email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Yah oo! > Groups Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 >From: szukidavis@... >Subject: Re: ozone machine? > In the end I decided that it was easier, cheaper, and just as effective > to use the hot water, dilute food grade peroxide bath with DMSO added. > This is what I would use instead of an ozone generator. In the end we > stopped using the generator and just used the above hot bath twice a > day. > There are people that will do an IV of ozone. I have had it done and felt > marvelous afterward. I also had it done for my dog. > I still have great faith in ozone. Hi, Proffessor Wharburg got the Nobel prize for medicine for showing cancer was anerobic and killed by oxygen. So we need not debate the effcicacy of oxygen against cancer. Of course active oxygen (ozone, peroxide) is exponentially more effective than molecular oxygen. It is not even a matter of finding doctors that can do it. It is the cost and number of treatments and methods that is the issue. Ideally one would have daily IV or rectal treatments. That could mean 100 or more treatments. That has got to cost 10,000$ or more. Six or seven treatments is not going to kill any large tumor. If one can get the medical oxygen then one can do rectal insulflations at home cheaply and conviently. Ozone generators that dont use medical oxygen are no good. THE BATH METHOD Half fill the bath with comfortably hot water. Add one coffee mug of 35% FOOD grade H2O2. (best purchased in 20 Litre drum from a chemical comany in the Yellow pages, get the comany to arrange shipping as being hazardous it is very difficult to ship.) Add 50ml 99% grade DMSO. Have a bath for 20 minutes in the morning. Do NOT get any in the EYES. Flush eyes with water if this happens and seek medical advice for eyes if needed. Wear goggles when handling concentrate. Concentrate BURNS SKIN if undiluted - CAUTION. wash with water if this happens. Reheat bath in the afternoon with an immersion heater, purchased for this task. Discard and change bath water once at end of the day. Repeat the process. m. > Hans Neiper switched from ozone to carnivora because he found the latter to > be more stable. It is crucial to go very > slowly so that your liver/kidney's etc can eliminate all the toxins and dead > cancer. If you go too fast you will make your body toxic and this can be > lethal. > > I am fairly familiar with ozone as many years ago I used to sell the machines > to holistic doctors. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Where do you buy this peroxide? Is it the same as the hydogen peroxide you by in stores? Re: ozone machine? > > In the end I decided that it was easier, cheaper, and just as effective > > to use the hot water, dilute food grade peroxide bath with DMSO added. > > This is what I would use instead of an ozone generator. In the end we > > stopped using the generator and just used the above hot bath twice a > > day. > > There are people that will do an IV of ozone. I have had it done and felt > > marvelous afterward. I also had it done for my dog. > > I still have great faith in ozone. > > Hi, > Proffessor Wharburg got the Nobel prize for medicine for showing cancer was anerobic and > killed by oxygen. So we need not debate the effcicacy of oxygen against cancer. Of course active > oxygen (ozone, peroxide) is exponentially more effective than molecular oxygen. > > It is not even a matter of finding doctors that can do it. It is the cost and number of treatments and > methods that is the issue. Ideally one would have daily IV or rectal treatments. That could mean > 100 or more treatments. That has got to cost 10,000$ or more. Six or seven treatments is not > going to kill any large tumor. > If one can get the medical oxygen then one can do rectal insulflations at home cheaply and > conviently. Ozone generators that dont use medical oxygen are no good. > > THE BATH METHOD > > Half fill the bath with comfortably hot water. Add one coffee mug of 35% FOOD grade H2O2. (best > purchased in 20 Litre drum from a chemical comany in the Yellow pages, get the comany to > arrange shipping as being hazardous it is very difficult to ship.) > Add 50ml 99% grade DMSO. > Have a bath for 20 minutes in the morning. Do NOT get any in the EYES. Flush eyes with water if > this happens and seek medical advice for eyes if needed. Wear goggles when handling > concentrate. Concentrate BURNS SKIN if undiluted - CAUTION. wash with water if this happens. > Reheat bath in the afternoon with an immersion heater, purchased for this task. > Discard and change bath water once at end of the day. Repeat the process. > > > m. > > > > > > Hans Neiper switched from ozone to carnivora because he found the latter to > > be more stable. It is crucial to go very > > slowly so that your liver/kidney's etc can eliminate all the toxins and dead > > cancer. If you go too fast you will make your body toxic and this can be > > lethal. > > > > I am fairly familiar with ozone as many years ago I used to sell the machines > > to holistic doctors. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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