Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Hi in answer to the question Synthroid and Levothyroxine - they are one in the same. My pill bottle states Synthroid 50 mcg and then right underneath is Levothyroxine. Are you maybe thinking of Tyrosine which is actually Amino-Acid. My new diet allows for Tyrosine in bananas, nuts, avacado and dark chocolate to name a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Well most of us here hated both. We take Armour. Learn more about it at www.stopthethyroidmadness.com 9 was most likely you're TSH levels. TSH is not a good indicator of how bad you feel. Make sure you're doc checks your T4 and T3. Once you read ove that site you will be very well educated on being hypo. -- levothyroxine Hi! I'm new on this group, and new to hypothyroidism. I was diagnosed last week (blood test showed a 9, whatever that means). I was given levothyroxine. I met a woman the other night who told me I should stay only with the brand name drug, Synthroid, even if it meant paying more. She told me she had found there was a big difference in how they helped her. I am wondering if the levothyroxine is a generic of Synthroid and if everyone here has the same opinion on the generic drug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Well, I've switched to armour and the joint pain is gone so I'm happy;) Thanks for your input. Elyse > Elyse, > > You wrote: >> >> >> Delurking, I was on levothroxine and couldn't walk after 30 minutes.... > > How much were you taking? Joint pain is more often associated with > hypoT. Mine went away after I got the dose high enough. If you were on a > sufficient dose, then this might be a reaction to one of the other > ingredients. > > Chuck > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Elyse, You wrote: > > Well, I've switched to armour and the joint pain is gone so I'm happy;) > Thanks for your input. It was more of a question than input, one which you seem to be refusing to answer. Have we been over this before? Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 I've seen here that it's not always easy to get a doctor to prescribe Armour. Yet, it seems I've seen somewhere else that Armour could be bought over the counter. Am I wrong on that, or does it have to be prescribed? Thanks for the responses! I didn't realize how bad I was feeling until the nurse told me how bad I felt. ;-) I thought my weight gain, thinning hair, dry skin, lack of sleep at night was just all a part of aging. It's wonderful to realize I don't have to live with it. I'm hoping that treatment will help in those areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 I'm curious, have you ever done a poll here, to see what treatment seems to be more effective? That might be an eye opener for us all... > > > > Well most of us here hated both. We take Armour.... > > There are 2,257 subscribers to this list. Only about 30 of them posted > last month with a mix of responses to T4. Do you really think you speak > for a majority? > > Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 don't know, didn't have insurance then. Joint pain was my original comment in my original email. Elyse ----- Original Message ----- > Elyse and Joe wrote: >> >> >> By Chuck's theory, when I stopped the Levo for 4 mths my pain should have >> increased. It went away.... > > At the same time, did other hypoT symptoms crash back on you? > > Chuck > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Gracia, you could be right about the wrong dose on Armour but since I am doing OK on Synthroid I will stick with it. I also take 1200 mg of triple omega 3-6-9, Geritol complete multi-vitamin, and 50 mg DHEA. This combo seems to work well for me. The endo suggested I take Caltrate D but I haven't added that yet. Pam > > > > So you're pro loevothyroxine? I should dismiss my personal experience of no > > pain and my doc and go back on Levo. ? What's your point? If you have been > > down this road with someone else maybe you need to examine your own > > agenda.... > > I am pro effective treatment. I do not have a personal agenda. I fully > accept the fact that some people react to the incipient ingredients or > need T3 in addition to T4. I am glad you found a medication that works > for you. > > However, my point is that from what I have observed on this list and > others, is that more often than not, the people who rail against the > evils of Synthroid, and extol the virtues of Armour, have simply never > received a proper T4 dose. Their " side effects " were actually symptoms > of hypoT, which they never adequately treated, most often due to poor > judgment on the part of their doctor. > > I was merely trying to see whether your problems with T4 fell in that > category or not, since your side effects were consistent. The fact that > you have repeatedly refused to answer a simple question about your > dosage and have chosen an ad hominem approach instead, suggests that you > are one with an agenda. Your effort at concealment makes me think that > you probably wouldn't answer the question honestly now, anyway. So, > please don't bother. I won't ask it again. > > Chuck > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Having a mind like that may be hypo, but you already knew that:) I did have other symptoms. I had diarrhea and rapid weight loss as well. As far as my labs, I'm not sure about TSH. I Do remember the docs wife saying well you re still suppressed so let's lower that dose, come in for some samples and a RX. As far as body mass, I am 5'1 and at the time I was overweight at about 160 (6 MO. Post-partum). I went down to 140 in just about 6 weeks. After that though I gained it back Had a couple of more babies and now I am on Armour since May. I could no longer tolerate Synthroid. I was having severe headaches that NEVER went away. I had MRI's a couple of different docs until I found an endo, yes an endo on the top docs list.. -- Re: levothyroxine Crystal, You wrote: > > Chuck, I think we have gone over this before.... Probably have. My mind is like a steel trap ... rusted shut. Actually, I just try to read too many lists at one time. I periodically find myself responding to things on differently lists. >...I was receiving too much > synthroid with 125 mcg, but still had many hypo symptoms. My heart was > palping so I needed to reduce.... Are you sure? Palpitations can happen with hypoT, also. Did you have any other hyperT symptoms, or was it a constellation of hypoT with palpitations? What was your TSH doing on this dose? > ....I am not optimized on Armour yet but I am up to 3 3/4 > grains. I just think that my heart would have not tolerated more synthroid Perhaps it just didn't work well with you hypoT and under treated, although 125 mcg is enough for many. The amount you need, either levothyroxine or Armour, depends on body mass. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 pain really responds to Armour (think fibromyalgia) Gracia Elyse and Joe wrote: > > > By Chuck's theory, when I stopped the Levo for 4 mths my pain should have > increased. It went away.... At the same time, did other hypoT symptoms crash back on you? Chuck ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.3/986 - Release Date: 9/3/2007 9:31 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 well I think all that other stuff is good but newsflash to endo! hypos really need iodine and magnesium---this combination is wonderful stuff. Gracia Gracia, you could be right about the wrong dose on Armour but since I am doing OK on Synthroid I will stick with it. I also take 1200 mg of triple omega 3-6-9, Geritol complete multi-vitamin, and 50 mg DHEA. This combo seems to work well for me. The endo suggested I take Caltrate D but I haven't added that yet. Pam Recent Activity a.. 8New Members Visit Your Group Having cancer is hard Finding help shouldn´t be. Healthy Cooking on A place for parents to share their ideas. Featured Y! Groups and category pages. There is something for everyone. . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.3/986 - Release Date: 9/3/2007 9:31 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 I am thinking of adding magnesium but no to the iodine. It may sound strange, being hypoT, but I am allergic to iodine. Externally for sure. Iodine, betadine, etc., anything red, applied to my body causes hives. Found this out when I was getting prepped to deliver my first child and they swabbed me ... ouch. So I am just a little bit hesitant to ingest it. I am sensitive to a lot of medications and have only ever taken aspirin and not had a reaction. Pam > > > well I think all that other stuff is good but newsflash to endo! hypos really need iodine and magnesium---this combination is wonderful stuff. > Gracia > > > Gracia, you could be right about the wrong dose on Armour but since I > am doing OK on Synthroid I will stick with it. I also take 1200 mg > of triple omega 3-6-9, Geritol complete multi-vitamin, and 50 mg > DHEA. This combo seems to work well for me. The endo suggested I > take Caltrate D but I haven't added that yet. > > Pam > > > Recent Activity > a.. 8New Members > Visit Your Group > > Having cancer is hard > > Finding help > > shouldn´t be. > > Healthy Cooking > on > > A place for parents > > to share their ideas. > > Featured Y! Groups > and category pages. > > There is something > > for everyone. > . > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.3/986 - Release Date: 9/3/2007 9:31 AM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Elyse, You wrote: > > > don't know, didn't have insurance then. Joint pain was my original comment > in my original email. Sorry, I don't understand. Do you need insurance to notice symptoms? If you were correctly diagnosed originally, on medication for an extended period, and then stopped cold turkey, you should have noticed something beyond the end of joint pain. Joint issues are not really definitive, since they can go with either hyperT or hypoT. Perhaps you were originally OVER dosed rather than under dosed. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Crystal, That all does sound hyperT, although some docs (and nurses) call the TSH suppressed if it is below 2. Also, that dose could well have been too much for your weight. What were the hypoT symptoms you said you had mixed in with this? Chuck You wrote: > > > > Having a mind like that may be hypo, but you already knew that:) I did have > other symptoms. I had diarrhea and rapid weight loss as well. As far as my > labs, I'm not sure about TSH. I Do remember the docs wife saying well you > re still suppressed so let's lower that dose, come in for some samples and a > RX. As far as body mass, I am 5'1 and at the time I was overweight at about > 160 (6 MO. Post-partum). I went down to 140 in just about 6 weeks. After > that though I gained it back Had a couple of more babies and now I am on > Armour since May. I could no longer tolerate Synthroid. I was having > severe headaches that NEVER went away. I had MRI's a couple of different > docs until I found an endo, yes an endo on the top docs list.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 I had hair loss and sluggishness, but at that time those were the only hypo thing that I can remember other than forgetfullness. At that time I worked for the state doing child welfare work. I would get an assignment and read over it then off I'd go....to the wrong place or on the wrong day. I use to put that off on stress, but now I know it was my foggy brain. I still haven t passed that stage yet. -- Re: levothyroxine Crystal, That all does sound hyperT, although some docs (and nurses) call the TSH suppressed if it is below 2. Also, that dose could well have been too much for your weight. What were the hypoT symptoms you said you had mixed in with this? Chuck You wrote: > > > > Having a mind like that may be hypo, but you already knew that:) I did have > other symptoms. I had diarrhea and rapid weight loss as well. As far as my > labs, I'm not sure about TSH. I Do remember the docs wife saying well you > re still suppressed so let's lower that dose, come in for some samples and a > RX. As far as body mass, I am 5'1 and at the time I was overweight at about > 160 (6 MO. Post-partum). I went down to 140 in just about 6 weeks. After > that though I gained it back Had a couple of more babies and now I am on > Armour since May. I could no longer tolerate Synthroid. I was having > severe headaches that NEVER went away. I had MRI's a couple of different > docs until I found an endo, yes an endo on the top docs list.. Messages in this topic (0) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Crystal, Well, I'm not sure either way. Hair loss and brain fog go with a number of conditions besides hypoT, including reactions to other ingredients. The hypoT symptom that most seem to remember clearly is sensitivity to cold. Did you have that? You wrote: > > I had hair loss and sluggishness, but at that time those were the only hypo > thing that I can remember other than forgetfullness. At that time I worked > for the state doing child welfare work. I would get an assignment and read > over it then off I'd go....to the wrong place or on the wrong day. I use to > put that off on stress, but now I know it was my foggy brain. I still haven > t passed that stage yet. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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