Guest guest Posted December 29, 2001 Report Share Posted December 29, 2001 Hi, I'm new here. I've done bowel cleanses and have a colonic board. I just did my first gallbladder flush and got out 200 stones (all sizes). My back still aches (guess I need to exercise), but my question is what causes hands to go numb in my sleep, without sleeping on them? Poor circulation? I'm going to continue to cleanse and also get some cayanne and butchers broom and Inflam-Away. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2001 Report Share Posted December 30, 2001 Well..... am i glad i found you guys!!!!! i'll give you a quick run thru of my life! I have known i had parasites for about 5-8 years, i felt one go thru my heart ( i ended taking heart pills for a yr till i convinced the Dr. i didn't have heart problems) i had yeast in my bloodstream and went thru many die-offs to rid my self of that. i have past 3 worms, My Dr.'s office LOST the 2nd one!!!!!so i couldn't have it tested. i thru the first one away. the third one i captured alive & put it in the bathroom sink with water and it lurched real fast connected it self to the other end and died! i saved it & finally sent it to a parsitlogist (sp) which i had seen before, he didn't believe me and after sending the dead worm he said it was not one! i talk to Dr. Biamonte & with his help i am trying to rid myself of these,i can feel them moving, i had cancer this summer from them, i actually felt my lump in my breast being made in 2 weeks! i am all done with Chemo and Radiation, actually the Chemo made me feel really good (because it did kill some of the parasites) but now since Oct, i am taking wormwood, cloves and paracleanse, i start the herbs slowly & really get sick, & have to slack off, i have my own colonic board & when need be i'll do a colonic. i have had the chills for 24 hours the last 3 months, i do the zapper & get sick the next day, i wrap my legs around magnets knowing that might do something to them! Ha! i don't know what! i have been off my meds for 2 days but will start them again tomorrow about 4 drops of wormwood. I'm supposed to get up to 8 tsps. a day and just once i made it to 3 1/2 tsps. my throat is tender and swollen, i have a bad deep cough, my head is as stuffed up as it can get. i have to get rid of these before i get cancer again! Sorry i am so long. but this is where i am today. i appreciate hearing about other peoples parasites, not to many people you can talk to about them. Thanks for lissening, i'm so excited i've found the site! Mog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2001 Report Share Posted December 30, 2001 > Hi, I'm new here. I've done bowel cleanses and have a colonic board. > I just did my first gallbladder flush and got out 200 stones (all > sizes). My back still aches (guess I need to exercise), but my > question is what causes hands to go numb in my sleep, without > sleeping on them? Poor circulation? I'm going to could be anything, but I think I remember reading in Dr 's book about something about parasites emitting chemicals that contrict the arteries and vessels in the body. Back ache could be caused by a number of things - slipped disk, drinking too much certain types of liquids (I forgot what the exact chemical was, but it is often found in tea), etc. Get Dr 's book " The Cure for all Diseases " if you haven't already done so, and if you have it then read it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 Eleanore said: Have you seen a massage therapist to see if you have thoracic outlet syndrome? Well, I live on a mountain with no one around except my husband half the week. I had this before and a good candida diet and aerobic exercise was the ticket to help my back. I think the numb hands was the build up of cholesterol slowing circulation and I'm doing gallstone/liver flushes now. Also will do the extra mile on the parasite cleanse just in case I have someting stubborn that evaded the last cleanse a few weeks ago. Very excited to try the PD and the Homozon. Gonna read all about them tonight. Wish my husband knew massage. I'm the massuse (sp?) of the family. I like your posts and info sharing. Glad to be here. " People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun is out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is alight within. " -Kubler Ross " Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. " Holy Bible --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Wow, I suffer the same thing...and it prevents me from sleeping at night. Well, I sleep but am contstantly wakened by the pain and numbness down my arms and hands (it started with only my hands and for years stayed that way). Not once did I ever think in terms of it being related to the hep. However, I started having a problem in my neck....hard to describe exactly. I started bunching my down pillow under my neck when I slept and it helped. but ofcourse during the course of the night I would move around and lose that padding under my neck and then I'd have problems. Because that seemed to help, I wondered if it could be a neck problem. So I bought one of those neck ring pillows...one that went all the way around the neck and connected with velcro so you wouldn't lose it during thie night. Took a while to get used to it...but it works. Now the numbness and pains only occur occasionally. Maybe it's my neck, maybe it's something else. But since this was mentioned on the list I thought I'd mention this..... Tatezi Edie wrote: > Hello everyone, > > For years before I went on treatment, I got numbness in my hands and > fingers, especially at night. I complained to the doctor's but was > told nothing was wrong. Then, I went on treatment for my HepC and lo > and behold, the numbness went away. > > Then, I was reading once on this list that other people have had this > numbness problem. -- If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them, you will not know them, And what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. ~Chief Dan ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Wow, I suffer the same thing...and it prevents me from sleeping at night. Well, I sleep but am contstantly wakened by the pain and numbness down my arms and hands (it started with only my hands and for years stayed that way). Not once did I ever think in terms of it being related to the hep. However, I started having a problem in my neck....hard to describe exactly. I started bunching my down pillow under my neck when I slept and it helped. but ofcourse during the course of the night I would move around and lose that padding under my neck and then I'd have problems. Because that seemed to help, I wondered if it could be a neck problem. So I bought one of those neck ring pillows...one that went all the way around the neck and connected with velcro so you wouldn't lose it during thie night. Took a while to get used to it...but it works. Now the numbness and pains only occur occasionally. Maybe it's my neck, maybe it's something else. But since this was mentioned on the list I thought I'd mention this..... Tatezi Edie wrote: > Hello everyone, > > For years before I went on treatment, I got numbness in my hands and > fingers, especially at night. I complained to the doctor's but was > told nothing was wrong. Then, I went on treatment for my HepC and lo > and behold, the numbness went away. > > Then, I was reading once on this list that other people have had this > numbness problem. -- If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them, you will not know them, And what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. ~Chief Dan ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Tatezi, Yeah, I've got that neck thing going on too. Sometimes I get muscle spasms with it. Then, my neck literally locks up in one position. Pain and pain for weeks! Edie Re: Numb Hands > Wow, I suffer the same thing...and it prevents me from sleeping at > night. Well, I sleep but am contstantly wakened by the pain and numbness > down my arms and hands (it started with only my hands and for years > stayed that way). Not once did I ever think in terms of it being related > to the hep. > > However, I started having a problem in my neck....hard to describe > exactly. I started bunching my down pillow under my neck when I slept > and it helped. but ofcourse during the course of the night I would move > around and lose that padding under my neck and then I'd have problems. > > Because that seemed to help, I wondered if it could be a neck problem. > So I bought one of those neck ring pillows...one that went all the way > around the neck and connected with velcro so you wouldn't lose it during > thie night. Took a while to get used to it...but it works. Now the > numbness and pains only occur occasionally. > > Maybe it's my neck, maybe it's something else. But since this was > mentioned on the list I thought I'd mention this..... > > Tatezi > > Edie wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > For years before I went on treatment, I got numbness in my hands and > > fingers, especially at night. I complained to the doctor's but was > > told nothing was wrong. Then, I went on treatment for my HepC and lo > > and behold, the numbness went away. > > > > Then, I was reading once on this list that other people have had this > > numbness problem. > > -- > If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know > each other. If you do not talk to them, you will not know them, And what > you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. ~Chief Dan > ~ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Tatezi, Yeah, I've got that neck thing going on too. Sometimes I get muscle spasms with it. Then, my neck literally locks up in one position. Pain and pain for weeks! Edie Re: Numb Hands > Wow, I suffer the same thing...and it prevents me from sleeping at > night. Well, I sleep but am contstantly wakened by the pain and numbness > down my arms and hands (it started with only my hands and for years > stayed that way). Not once did I ever think in terms of it being related > to the hep. > > However, I started having a problem in my neck....hard to describe > exactly. I started bunching my down pillow under my neck when I slept > and it helped. but ofcourse during the course of the night I would move > around and lose that padding under my neck and then I'd have problems. > > Because that seemed to help, I wondered if it could be a neck problem. > So I bought one of those neck ring pillows...one that went all the way > around the neck and connected with velcro so you wouldn't lose it during > thie night. Took a while to get used to it...but it works. Now the > numbness and pains only occur occasionally. > > Maybe it's my neck, maybe it's something else. But since this was > mentioned on the list I thought I'd mention this..... > > Tatezi > > Edie wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > For years before I went on treatment, I got numbness in my hands and > > fingers, especially at night. I complained to the doctor's but was > > told nothing was wrong. Then, I went on treatment for my HepC and lo > > and behold, the numbness went away. > > > > Then, I was reading once on this list that other people have had this > > numbness problem. > > -- > If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know > each other. If you do not talk to them, you will not know them, And what > you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. ~Chief Dan > ~ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Edie, I have bilateral CTS and know what you mean. I also have heard it is a side effect. I am inoperable for the surgery because of bleeding problem. I think the name of the stuff they gave me to rub on them was Theragesic, and also a script, maybe I think of name before done writing this. I found something better. It is called Mobisyl, found it at Walgreens in FL. you might be able to get them to order it for you if no one has it. I am suppose to wear hand braces 23 hours a day but they are just to bothersome.....Flexeril is name of script. I didn't notice it doing anything for me though. I have a high tolerance to meds, so maybe good for someone else. I have 2 sets of braces, that I would be willing to give you one (or both....lol). They come in different sizes. Have you checked CTS as being the cause? Usually it is work related if you do repetitive things. They are finding Semi drivers with it now. It's cause, is doing something, like typing or anything that is repetitive. Take Care, Connie __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Edie, I have bilateral CTS and know what you mean. I also have heard it is a side effect. I am inoperable for the surgery because of bleeding problem. I think the name of the stuff they gave me to rub on them was Theragesic, and also a script, maybe I think of name before done writing this. I found something better. It is called Mobisyl, found it at Walgreens in FL. you might be able to get them to order it for you if no one has it. I am suppose to wear hand braces 23 hours a day but they are just to bothersome.....Flexeril is name of script. I didn't notice it doing anything for me though. I have a high tolerance to meds, so maybe good for someone else. I have 2 sets of braces, that I would be willing to give you one (or both....lol). They come in different sizes. Have you checked CTS as being the cause? Usually it is work related if you do repetitive things. They are finding Semi drivers with it now. It's cause, is doing something, like typing or anything that is repetitive. Take Care, Connie __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 The numbness at night wakes you up with pain, all through hands and up arms __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 The numbness at night wakes you up with pain, all through hands and up arms __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Hi Connie.... I've been tested for CPS and that's not what it is...although that's what I thought it was for years. I've tried the braces but they don't help...it really seems to be coming from my neck. When...or maybe I should say if since it seems our glorious, oil focused, capitalistic government seems pretty focused on the annihilation of the middle class (Oops, can you tell that I am not happy with what this pretender and his power men have done to the country...),...I will get an mri and find out what is going on with my neck. Thanks for the offer of the braces, but I have a pair tucked away next to my bed. Tatezi Constance Dickson wrote: > Edie, > I have bilateral CTS and know what you mean. I also > have heard it is a side effect. -- If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them, you will not know them, And what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. ~Chief Dan ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Hi Connie.... I've been tested for CPS and that's not what it is...although that's what I thought it was for years. I've tried the braces but they don't help...it really seems to be coming from my neck. When...or maybe I should say if since it seems our glorious, oil focused, capitalistic government seems pretty focused on the annihilation of the middle class (Oops, can you tell that I am not happy with what this pretender and his power men have done to the country...),...I will get an mri and find out what is going on with my neck. Thanks for the offer of the braces, but I have a pair tucked away next to my bed. Tatezi Constance Dickson wrote: > Edie, > I have bilateral CTS and know what you mean. I also > have heard it is a side effect. -- If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them, you will not know them, And what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. ~Chief Dan ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Hi Edie, Were there other medications you were taking when the numbness went away, and when the numbness returned had you stopped or reduced the doses of any medications? Just trying to see if there are any correlations between the numbness and medications. Claudine --- Edie <erodriguez7@...> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > For years before I went on treatment, I got numbness in my hands > and fingers, especially at night. I complained to the doctor's but > was told nothing was wrong. Then, I went on treatment for my HepC > and lo and behold, the numbness went away. > > Then, I was reading once on this list that other people have had > this numbness problem. > > My numbness has reappeared again. I thought it was gone for good. > No matter how gingerly and carefully I sleep, my hands still go > numb, the pinky and ring finger are especially effected. > > I bought myself an ergonomic keyboard for work and it was no help. > I keyboard all day long and thought that this was part of the > problem. I've also tried motrin and applied Icy Hot, all to no > avail. My hands are now starting to ache constantly. > > Edie > Week 47 of combo > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Hi Edie, Were there other medications you were taking when the numbness went away, and when the numbness returned had you stopped or reduced the doses of any medications? Just trying to see if there are any correlations between the numbness and medications. Claudine --- Edie <erodriguez7@...> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > For years before I went on treatment, I got numbness in my hands > and fingers, especially at night. I complained to the doctor's but > was told nothing was wrong. Then, I went on treatment for my HepC > and lo and behold, the numbness went away. > > Then, I was reading once on this list that other people have had > this numbness problem. > > My numbness has reappeared again. I thought it was gone for good. > No matter how gingerly and carefully I sleep, my hands still go > numb, the pinky and ring finger are especially effected. > > I bought myself an ergonomic keyboard for work and it was no help. > I keyboard all day long and thought that this was part of the > problem. I've also tried motrin and applied Icy Hot, all to no > avail. My hands are now starting to ache constantly. > > Edie > Week 47 of combo > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Hi Folks, One of the many things that us Heppers have as a side " ailment " is Rheinert's disease and/or neuropathy. This is what causes the numbness and pain. This is not to say that you can't have this or CTS without having HCV. But we tend to develop it more easily and if we already have it, our symptoms tend to be worse. This is also true of osteoarthritis. In short, if you had a tendency toward it, or already had it, whatever it is, the HCV will, more than likely, worsen it. Treatment can improve the symptoms, but will not cure the damage already done. So sayeth all the medical gurus I've discussed this with. That's not to say, that diet and exercise can't reverse most of the problems, but don't expect to be able to take Vioxx and dance in the streets tomorrow. LOL, Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 I've searched for rheinerts disease on the web and can't get any hints? Are you sure about the spelling? Does any one know anything about this so I can research it? Tatezi AVansi7465@... wrote: > Hi Folks, > One of the many things that us Heppers have as a side " ailment " is > Rheinert's > disease and/or neuropathy. -- If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them, you will not know them, And what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. ~Chief Dan ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 In a message dated 2/25/2002 11:53:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, gidoctor@... writes: > I havent followed this thread..sorry but it must be > Raynauds Disease. > > That's it. Sorry I'm a Southerner and we never pronounce anything correctly. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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