colon cleanse

[Guest guest]

The best colon cleanse is a colonic. If you can't afford that,

colosan is a good choice. There are a couple of things similar to

colosan, but it's the least expensive. You can also consider getting

a colema board, it's the next best thing to getting a colonic.

The best way to detox the liver is to get the stones out.

www.curezone has info on how to do that, as well as forums on

cleanses to ask questions if you need to.

Chang at http://www.sensiblehealth.com/index.html has products

to help detox your liver too. You can call her and talk to her. She's

very nice and helpful.

Rick

> Can anybody tell me what the best colon cleanse or detox there is

on

> the market to buy.

> Thanks again

> Tammy

[Guest guest]

Personally, Primal Defense is the best I've seen.

colon cleanse

Can anybody tell me what the best colon cleanse or detox there is on

the market to buy.

Thanks again

Tammy

[Guest guest]

A good diet and periodic fasting seems to be the basis for building health.

It's more about having a healthy life style and diet than finding the right

quick fix.

It bugs me when people want herbs and health promoting methods to be used like

drugs for a quickk fix. : -(

I guess that's the way our society and the medical system has conditioned the

population. *sigh*

Bruce

colon cleanse

Can anybody tell me what the best colon cleanse or detox there is on

the market to buy.

Thanks again

Tammy

[Guest guest]

The colema board I bought from www.amenhealth.com works perfectly. I

think someone else posted instructions before on how to make your

own, can't remember who now though.

> I have asked a lot of questions lately about liver cleansing, and

> you have all been very helpful. Thanks for all of the advise and

> support you have given me.

> I have read that I need to do a colon cleanse and kidney cleanse

> first. First of all, I have no clue as to where to go to get a

colon

> cleanse. Secondly, I would much rather do something like that in

the

> privacy of my own home by myself.

> I have found some kits on the internet, but they are all $100 or

> more. Does anyone how to make a kit, or where to get one at a good

> price? Also, have any of you had success or failure with a home

> colon cleanse?

> Thanks!

> Jen

[Guest guest]

Thanks!

This is just what I wanted!

Do you think that collidal silver would be good to put in the water?

Also what herbs and things should I be taking beforehand?

Thanks!

Jen

>

> From: " flutist_jen " <jen@r...>

>

> First of all, I have no clue as to where to go to get a colon

> cleanse. Secondly, I would much rather do something like that in

the

> privacy of my own home by myself.

> I have found some kits on the internet, but they are all $100 or

> more. Does anyone how to make a kit, or where to get one at a good

> price?

>

>

> Hi Jen,

>

> Rick gave some very good instructions for building your own

colema board. Here they are again.

>

> Sherry (from Oregon)

>

>

> If you can afford to buy the colema board, it's a great

investment.

> You'll have it for life. If not this is what I did.

>

> I bought the tubing kit from www.amenhealth.com you can also check

> out www.elementsofwellness.com . Considering where it's going, it

was

> important to me to get the right thing. The kit was $30 plus $6.50

> for shipping.

>

> I got a 4 by 2 piece of melamine board at Home Depot for ten

bucks,

> and had them cut it down to 46 " by 20 " .

>

> You need at least one 5 gallon bucket(I got two, one to rest the

end

> of the board on) a smaller bucket(I got a 12 quart one, but a two

> gallon bucket is good too). You'll also need a roll of duct tape.

>

> Use the smaller bucket to mark the whole, then cut it in half,

> leaving the front on the very bottom. You of course want to place

the

> board on the toilet to see where you want the hole. The center of

the

> hole I cut was 7 inches from the bottom of the board.

>

> I don't have a jig saw, so I used my drill to make holes all

around

> the circumference of the circle, and then ground that with a

grinding

> attachment for my drill. Put duct tape along the bare wood on the

> inside of the hole. Put the cut bucket in place, and drill a hole

in

> the back for the tubing. I also taped the bottom front of the cut

> bucket to the inside of the hole and left the back movable.

>

> Wait until you get the tubing kit before you make the board. They

> have a good picture of it in with the tubing kit.

>

> The nice thing about it is that you can do it at home in privacy.

You

> can also add anything you want to the water. I've used sea salt,

Pau

> d Arco, and some old antifungals that I still had hanging around.

> Make sure that you use the purest water you can. I have a

distiller,

> and use that water.

>

> Just make sure that you research it a little. Doing too many too

> close together can cause problems.

>

> If you can't afford the board, or don't like the idea, you can

always

> do an enema. http://www.sawilsons.com/ That's how I started. I

knew

> about this for a while, but didn't want to stick anything up my

butt.

> The way I feel now, I wish I hadn't been such a big baby.

>

> If I can help in any other way, please let me know.

>

>

>

> Rick

[Guest guest]

Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 15:12:47 -0000

From: " flutist_jen " <jen@...>

Thanks!

This is just what I wanted!

Do you think that collidal silver would be good to put in the water?

Also what herbs and things should I be taking beforehand?

Hi Jen,

I'm glad the information is helpful. As to what to put into the

water -- I haven't used anything but plain water yet so I can't advise. I

know others here have used some things so maybe they'll weigh in on the

subject.

Sherry (from Oregon)

[Guest guest]

The colon cleanse is the quickest and easiest way I have ever seen to heal IBS.

It seems to do a very good job of vacuuming the walls, I had large chunks in my

BM's of stuff. It turned my BM's black and I also saw some parasites. The

activated charcoal will even remove lead, mercury, and other heavy metals from

the intestinal system. Just make sure you take something to keep your bowels

moving unless you have the diarrhea type of IBS or you could become constipated.

Dr Schultz's #1 formula does this nicely and I also use it when I am pregnant to

keep things moving in those last couple of months.

My mom was 40 when she did her first colon cleanse and she lost 10 pounds that

week, 5 pounds stayed off and her belly was flatter so she lost 5 pounds of

fecal matter from her colon. It definitely does some evacuation. It is so

inexpensive and easy I think it would be great if everyone made a point to do

one a couple of times a year.

I was just looking at a site that had a Dr. 's colon

cleanse. It said it vacuumed the walls of the colon also and had

some of the same ingredients you listed. I was considering this.

It said it really helped with IBS and colitis, etc. The colon

cleanse really helps you? Did you notice a big difference or a lot

of, uh, evacuation..lol when you did it? I was debating on trying

it.

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for the info. You sold me. I am ordering some. I

will definitely need the formula #1 to keep things moving since I

have the constipated version. I appreciate the help. Thanks again.

> The colon cleanse is the quickest and easiest way I have ever seen

to heal IBS. It seems to do a very good job of vacuuming the walls, I

had large chunks in my BM's of stuff. It turned my BM's black and I

also saw some parasites. The activated charcoal will even remove

lead, mercury, and other heavy metals from the intestinal system.

Just make sure you take something to keep your bowels moving unless

you have the diarrhea type of IBS or you could become constipated. Dr

Schultz's #1 formula does this nicely and I also use it when I am

pregnant to keep things moving in those last couple of months.

>

> My mom was 40 when she did her first colon cleanse and she lost

10 pounds that week, 5 pounds stayed off and her belly was flatter so

she lost 5 pounds of fecal matter from her colon. It definitely does

some evacuation. It is so inexpensive and easy I think it would be

great if everyone made a point to do one a couple of times a year.

>

> I was just looking at a site that had a Dr. 's colon

> cleanse. It said it vacuumed the walls of the colon also and had

> some of the same ingredients you listed. I was considering

this.

> It said it really helped with IBS and colitis, etc. The colon

> cleanse really helps you? Did you notice a big difference or a

lot

> of, uh, evacuation..lol when you did it? I was debating on

trying

> it.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lara - I've sent a message via your personal mail.

Cheers

[Guest guest]

> The colon cleanse is the quickest and easiest way I have ever seen to

> heal IBS. It seems to do a very good job of vacuuming the walls, I had

> large chunks in my BM's of stuff.

Unfortuanately this won't prduc results for very many people with

IBS.

Most cases of IBS have bowel dysbiosis (bad bacterial fluorish) that

has also spread to the upper intestine. The condition, known as SIBO -

Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth, is marked by reduced flow

through the upper intestine, which allows time for food fermentation

to occur there when it shouldn't. Bowel cleansing does not address

dysbiosis or SIBO at all, and it doesn't even touch the upper

intestine, the seat of the problem.

Inulin, on the other hand, corrects the gut dysbiosis, and the short

chain fatty acids created by favourable gut bacteria hav the effect

of causing the bowel peristalsis to normalize slower, and the

intestinal peristalsis to normalize to be faster. This corrects the

inordinately slow passage of contents through the upper intestine,

where this is not caused by a constriction.

I think there are enough keywords in that for further research.

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

I've never heard of a colon cleanse. Can someone tell me what you do?

Is it safe?

Thanks!

Elaine

[Guest guest]

I did enemas and made a colema board. Those did the trick for me.

>

> I've been on the Candida diet for about 5 months and constipated

for

> most of that time. The only thing that keeps me " going " is taking

> extra magnesium every night. I think doing a colon cleanse might

be

> extremely beneficial and maybe help to get my bowels functioning

> properly again. Has anyone tried any of the Colon Cleanse

products on

> the market? And if so, did you find any effective. I want to

stay

> away from the psyllium and bulk forming types. I've seen some

that are

> a combination of various herbs and some with oxygen that claim to

be

> effective. Most are pretty expensive though and some of the

cheaper

> ones I've seen have ingredients that I just don't think would be

that

> effective.

>

> Any suggestions/recommendations?

>

> Thanks

> Gail

>

[Guest guest]

One of the things my naturopath recommended doing for bowel detoxing was to

empy my magnesium capsules into very hot water and drink that a couple of

times a day. There were other things to do along with that and I don't

remember what they were but the hot mg drink was key.

[Guest guest]

, taking magnesiun is useful including for loosening stool,

but not a detoxifier.

Preventing toxin load by avoiding inflamnmation and dietary toxins,

reducing toxins produced in the bowel, and adding things to the diet

that directly reduce inflammation and handle toxins or free radicals,

THOSE are detoxifiers.

Duncan

>

> One of the things my naturopath recommended doing for bowel

detoxing was to

> empy my magnesium capsules into very hot water and drink that a

couple of

> times a day. There were other things to do along with that and I

don't

> remember what they were but the hot mg drink was key.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Here's what I do / have done for colon cleansing / getting the intestines

going:

- Juice of 1 lemon (fresh squeezed) with a pint of warm water every morning

- Sometimes I alternate that with a pint of apple juice with apple cider

vinegar (not great if your candida is in a particularly bad state)

- Colon hydrotherapy before and after a liver flush (although I've switched

to enemas, less expensive).. another reason why I like the liver flush is

that the epsom salts also really clean you out. (I mix it with apple juice

so it's not as disgusting tasting).

- For a while I did psyllium + bentonite clay shakes. I started getting

headaches after a while, not sure if it was detox reaction or an allergy,

but I haven't done them in a while. They were quite good at cleaning out my

system. The bentonite clay is supposed to help absorb toxins, and the

psyllium help 'scrub' the intestines. I found a source of plain psyllium,

no added herbs or anything, and the price was quite economical. It might be

worth a try, especially at the beginning, to get your system going.

- Biggest obstacle to proper intestine functioning for me was sugar and

chocolate - I get instantly constipated when I eat too much of either.

- Same thing happens if I don't eat enough raw and cooked veggies during the

day - very important!!

At the moment the lemon juice / apple juice has been the best thing to keep

me functioning well. I would really recommend it, as they have other added

benefits.

[Guest guest]

My candida is in a bad state. I am very strictly following the diet

of no sugars or grains, no dairy except butter, only meat, fish fowl,

recommended veggies, eggs and good fats/oils. I don't know why but

when I've tried lemon drinks I end up getting light-headed so I

stopped drinking them.

I'm just getting over a bout of bad skin rashes and sores and now

fighting a bad case of oral thrush (again) with swollen lips and

cheek on one side of my face.

If I could get my bowels cleaned out and functioning, I think I might

have less toxins trying to get out through my skin, etc. Enemas are

only partially effective at removing waste. Magnesium (which I take

daily) moves things out (diarrhea-like) but if I don't take it, I

can't go at all.

Is a liver cleanse something one would do before a colon cleanse, or

after? And how do you do a liver cleanse.

And what do you thing about parasite cleanses.

I'm just so frustrated right now. The whole month of Oct I was

feeling really good without too many adverse symptoms. In Nov I've

been up and down, then the skin rashes and now the thrush.

Any advice other than colon cleansing to get some of these toxins and

waste out.

Thanks.

Gail

>

>

> At the moment the lemon juice / apple juice has been the best thing

to keep

> me functioning well. I would really recommend it, as they have

other added

> benefits.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What are good antioxidants in food sources and supplements?

Does Ester C help with toxin load too?

Thanks!

In a message dated 12/7/2006 11:57:28 A.M. Central Standard Time,

duncancrow@... writes:

Are you taking a full suite of antioxidants including undenatured

whey and selenium to quench toxin load? Doing that will also increase

your metabolic rate so your body has a better chance at

moving/removing toxin load. Also, reducing salt and increasing

potassium will improve oxygen delivery to the cells and this assists

toxin metabolism.

Exercise vigorously and/or go on a rebounder to move the lymph as

best you can to move toxins out. Also, liver flushes may help.

I think once you get the toxin load down you'll feel much more

comfortable and your body will respond well to the biological support

in many ways.

Duncan

[Guest guest]

Gail, are you feeding your probiotic bowel culture inulin, so it has

a fighting chance at controlling the bad organisms and candida? You

can take high-dose probiotics with it to start off a decent culture

more quickly.

Are you taking a full suite of antioxidants including undenatured

whey and selenium to quench toxin load? Doing that will also increase

your metabolic rate so your body has a better chance at

moving/removing toxin load. Also, reducing salt and increasing

potassium will improve oxygen delivery to the cells and this assists

toxin metabolism.

Exercise vigorously and/or go on a rebounder to move the lymph as

best you can to move toxins out. Also, liver flushes may help.

I think once you get the toxin load down you'll feel much more

comfortable and your body will respond well to the biological support

in many ways.

Duncan

>

> My candida is in a bad state. I am very strictly following the

diet

> of no sugars or grains, no dairy except butter, only meat, fish

fowl,

> recommended veggies, eggs and good fats/oils. I don't know why but

> when I've tried lemon drinks I end up getting light-headed so I

> stopped drinking them.

>

> I'm just getting over a bout of bad skin rashes and sores and now

> fighting a bad case of oral thrush (again) with swollen lips and

> cheek on one side of my face.

>

> If I could get my bowels cleaned out and functioning, I think I

might

> have less toxins trying to get out through my skin, etc. Enemas are

> only partially effective at removing waste. Magnesium (which I

take

> daily) moves things out (diarrhea-like) but if I don't take it, I

> can't go at all.

>

> Is a liver cleanse something one would do before a colon cleanse,

or

> after? And how do you do a liver cleanse.

>

> And what do you thing about parasite cleanses.

>

> I'm just so frustrated right now. The whole month of Oct I was

> feeling really good without too many adverse symptoms. In Nov I've

> been up and down, then the skin rashes and now the thrush.

>

> Any advice other than colon cleansing to get some of these toxins

and

> waste out.

>

> Thanks.

> Gail

>

>

>

>

>

> >

>

> >

> > At the moment the lemon juice / apple juice has been the best

thing

> to keep

> > me functioning well. I would really recommend it, as they have

> other added

> > benefits.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes I just read some articles on this. I think I recall the amounts on

equivalents. They said 10 minutes of rebounding is the equivalent of 30

minutes

of jogging. And if you do 5 minutes at a time several times a day you are

reaping massive benefits too.

In a message dated 12/7/2006 4:22:31 P.M. Central Standard Time,

duncancrow@... writes:

Gail, if you do any exercise it's probably more than half do. I

suggested a rebounder because it moves lymph something like 14x

better than jogging, it's time-effective for lymph, it's also low-

impact,

[Guest guest]

Most foods contain antioxidants or their precursors, vitamin C,

resveratrol, beta-carotenes, selenium, bonded cysteine etc.. some

more than others.

Ester C would help, yes, and so will ascorbic acid as your vitmin C

source. If you're into detail, the book the Miracle of Antioxidants

by Dr. White and Dr. McLeod details what each one does and how they

work together. It's a useful and complete reference.

Duncan

>

>

> What are good antioxidants in food sources and supplements?

>

> Does Ester C help with toxin load too?

>

> Thanks!

>

> In a message dated 12/7/2006 11:57:28 A.M. Central Standard Time,

> duncancrow@... writes:

>

> Are you taking a full suite of antioxidants including undenatured

> whey and selenium to quench toxin load? Doing that will also

increase

> your metabolic rate so your body has a better chance at

> moving/removing toxin load. Also, reducing salt and increasing

> potassium will improve oxygen delivery to the cells and this

assists

> toxin metabolism.

>

> Exercise vigorously and/or go on a rebounder to move the lymph as

> best you can to move toxins out. Also, liver flushes may help.

>

> I think once you get the toxin load down you'll feel much more

> comfortable and your body will respond well to the biological

support

> in many ways.

>

> Duncan

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am using a probiotic and antioxidants, but have not been using

inulin, whey or selenium. I've been a bit afraid to try the whey.

Thank you for the recommendations. I'll try adding these to my diet

and hope it will help. I don't exercise much, just toning &

strengthening. Will have to do more

Gail

>

> Gail, are you feeding your probiotic bowel culture inulin, so it

has

> a fighting chance at controlling the bad organisms and candida? You

> can take high-dose probiotics with it to start off a decent culture

> more quickly.

>

> Are you taking a full suite of antioxidants including undenatured

> whey and selenium to quench toxin load? Doing that will also

increase

> your metabolic rate so your body has a better chance at

> moving/removing toxin load. Also, reducing salt and increasing

> potassium will improve oxygen delivery to the cells and this

assists

> toxin metabolism.

>

> Exercise vigorously and/or go on a rebounder to move the lymph as

> best you can to move toxins out. Also, liver flushes may help.

>

> I think once you get the toxin load down you'll feel much more

> comfortable and your body will respond well to the biological

support

> in many ways.

>

> Duncan

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Gail, if you do any exercise it's probably more than half do. I

suggested a rebounder because it moves lymph something like 14x

better than jogging, it's time-effective for lymph, it's also low-

impact, you can do it sitting down, and the cells can't tell the

difference beween acceleration and work, so everything tones, even

wattles under the neck and under the upper arms, muscles and

connective tissue that was not used in the exercise itself.

Duncan

>

> I am using a probiotic and antioxidants, but have not been using

> inulin, whey or selenium. I've been a bit afraid to try the whey.

>

> Thank you for the recommendations. I'll try adding these to my

diet

> and hope it will help. I don't exercise much, just toning &

> strengthening. Will have to do more

>

> Gail

>

> >

> > Gail, are you feeding your probiotic bowel culture inulin, so it

> has

> > a fighting chance at controlling the bad organisms and candida?

You

> > can take high-dose probiotics with it to start off a decent

culture

> > more quickly.

> >

> > Are you taking a full suite of antioxidants including undenatured

> > whey and selenium to quench toxin load? Doing that will also

> increase

> > your metabolic rate so your body has a better chance at

> > moving/removing toxin load. Also, reducing salt and increasing

> > potassium will improve oxygen delivery to the cells and this

> assists

> > toxin metabolism.

> >

> > Exercise vigorously and/or go on a rebounder to move the lymph as

> > best you can to move toxins out. Also, liver flushes may help.

> >

> > I think once you get the toxin load down you'll feel much more

> > comfortable and your body will respond well to the biological

> support

> > in many ways.

> >

> > Duncan

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Awesome! Even wattles !

Thanks.

Gail

>

> Gail, if you do any exercise it's probably more than half do. I

> suggested a rebounder because it moves lymph something like 14x

> better than jogging, it's time-effective for lymph, it's also low-

> impact, you can do it sitting down, and the cells can't tell the

> difference beween acceleration and work, so everything tones, even

> wattles under the neck and under the upper arms, muscles and

> connective tissue that was not used in the exercise itself.

>

> Duncan

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Gail,

You can find more information on a liver flush at curezone:

http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/default.asp

The basic idea behind the liver flush is that as toxins build up in the body

(bad diet, lack of exercise, parasites, chemicals, etc) the liver isn't able

to hand the load, and the toxins build up inside the liver, creating stones,

and keeping the liver from functioning properly. The liver flush is a way

to get rid of these stones (in both the liver and the gallbladder), and

consists of drinking a comination of apple juice, epsom salts, olive oil,

grapefruit juice over a period of 12 hours. Sounds a bit disgusting but so

many people have gotten relief (and even 'cured') from this! There is also

a support forum on curezone where you can post questions. You would first

do a parasite cleanse, then colon cleanse, then liver flush (ideally).

I don't believe that colon cleansing by itself will solve the candida

problem, on the other hand if your colon has lots of build up and you're not

eliminating very well, you won't get better unless you can decrease the

toxic load in your colon. For some people, it's a colon cleanse (and it's

easy and cheap)! Both the colon and the liver cleanses go on the same

principle- you can't get better if you can't get rid of the toxins or the

candida you're killing. They just get reabsorbed and keep poisoning you. So

you're right, one of the first things to do is to get the bowels working.

Why do you say enemas are only partially effective? Many people find them to

be quite effective. I only do them when I do a liver flush, but that seems

to be enough.

The parasite cleanse was actually one of the few things that I did that

helped get rid of my candida, and in a very short period of time. More info

here: http://curezone.com/clark/parasites.asp

asli

Re: Colon Cleanse

My candida is in a bad state. I am very strictly following the diet

of no sugars or grains, no dairy except butter, only meat, fish fowl,

recommended veggies, eggs and good fats/oils. I don't know why but

when I've tried lemon drinks I end up getting light-headed so I

stopped drinking them.

I'm just getting over a bout of bad skin rashes and sores and now

fighting a bad case of oral thrush (again) with swollen lips and

cheek on one side of my face.

If I could get my bowels cleaned out and functioning, I think I might

have less toxins trying to get out through my skin, etc. Enemas are

only partially effective at removing waste. Magnesium (which I take

daily) moves things out (diarrhea-like) but if I don't take it, I

can't go at all.

Is a liver cleanse something one would do before a colon cleanse, or

after? And how do you do a liver cleanse.

And what do you thing about parasite cleanses.

I'm just so frustrated right now. The whole month of Oct I was

feeling really good without too many adverse symptoms. In Nov I've

been up and down, then the skin rashes and now the thrush.

Any advice other than colon cleansing to get some of these toxins and

waste out.

Thanks.

Gail

>

>

> At the moment the lemon juice / apple juice has been the best thing

to keep

> me functioning well. I would really recommend it, as they have

other added

> benefits.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for this information. The reason I said enemas are only

partially effective is that it is my understanding use of enemas only

clears out the bottom 10-12 inches of the colon.

Gail

>

> Dear Gail,

>

> You can find more information on a liver flush at curezone:

> http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/default.asp

> The basic idea behind the liver flush is that as toxins build up in

the body

> (bad diet, lack of exercise, parasites, chemicals, etc) the liver

isn't able

> to hand the load, and the toxins build up inside the liver,

creating stones,

> and keeping the liver from functioning properly. The liver flush

is a way

> to get rid of these stones (in both the liver and the gallbladder),

and

> consists of drinking a comination of apple juice, epsom salts,

olive oil,

> grapefruit juice over a period of 12 hours.

>

> Why do you say enemas are only partially effective? Many people

find them to

> be quite effective. I only do them when I do a liver flush, but

that seems

> to be enough.

>