Re: Lotions

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the recipes, I will try them and see if they help.

Treva

[Guest guest]

about the pepermint, you may want to test it on a small amount of your skin

first, if your skin is dry and cracked, peppermint can (and is known to be)

an irritant

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/10/00 12:40:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

colourpro@... writes:

<< The short and unpopular answer is there is no way for you to

determine if they are safe without testing. Gram -, Gram + and also

a repeat insult test should be done.

While I understand the side that wants to use as natural as

possible, we also have to keep in mind consumer safety first.....for

example - if your cream is contaminated by a commonly found bacteria

on the eyelashes and it grows uncontrolled, the risk is that used

again in the eye area the person will go blind within 24 hours with

no cure or treatment available.

The actually has happened to the big boys....they lost thier

shirts in product liability cases.

The biggest problems with women and cosmetics, (after 25 years in

the biz), is we stick our fingers in everything even when told not

to, (some will get the product out with a paddle and then use thier

fingers to apply the product - but who knows what bacteria is on

thier hands?), and store everything in bathrooms where it gets nice

and humid from showers.

HTH,

Jen >>

Hi Folks!

Jen, you are so right! When I first started making lotions and creams, I

planned to go all natural and tried to find a natural preservative. Actually

the first few months I did not use a preservative in my creams and lotions,

but just tried to use them up quickly (a week or two). I made some for my

sister and unfortunately she left it in her car all day while she was at

work--three days later when she used it, she got a horrible eye

infection--needless to say, I felt horrible. From that point on, I have used

Germall Plus or GermabenII. Before you folks make up your mind about these

preservatives, I suggest that you look at all the research that has been

done. These are made at Sutton Laboratories, plus you can find stuff on

MedLine about the chemicals. Would I prefer to have an all natural, without

any additives lotion, Yes------but I truly believe that the pros outweigh the

cons with preservatives, when they are use correctly! Can you be certain

that your client/friend/whoever will use spoons, or refrigerate, or even look

at your expiration date! My sister didn't think about leaving her makeup

case in her car and that being a problem. Bacteria and fungus are a part of

nature, and not all are bad, but if you are selling your products I doubt

that it would be a plus for " uglies " to be growing across the top of your

cream! If you have ever taken a biology class, remember how we use to grow

the mold and bacteria on those little petri dishes???

Angie

[Guest guest]

> 3. when selling it do you let people know it was a base lotion that

you added

> to on the label? i.e. Joe lotion base with sage eo oil.

> Thanks Dory

If you plan on selling the lotion in the US and you choose to follow

the FDA labeling regs, you will have to lists all the ingredients

using the correct names.

Lucy

[Guest guest]

Could you send me this info as well? Thanks...

Liz

brejd@... wrote:

>

>

> Just a quick note. I see that some of the people are buying ready made

> lotion and adding to it and reselling it. I think that would be the way to go

> for me! So question # 1. Where do you buy the lotion

> 2. What are you adding to it

> 3. when selling it do you let people know it was a base lotion that you added

> to on the label? i.e. Joe lotion base with sage eo oil.

> Thanks Dory

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , I think she has some good information, I have seen her picture,

how old is she? and if all these things she preaches to her pupils, does

she follow these principles because to me she doesn't look well, but looks

are deceiving. Do you know how her health is?

Laurie

vkyama@... wrote:

Someone here asked the other day about a certain

type of skin cream,

and that has prompted me to write the following. Here is

some info,

mainly fromn Dr. :

Lotions stick to the skin because of aluminum. No matter if

the

lotion is organic or not, there has to be some ingredient (a metal)

in it so that is sticks, otherwise it wouldn't stay on the skin.

Lotions also contain isopropyl alcohol from manufacturing, and

this

is a solvent. You don't want this on your skin either.

Everything,

and I mean everything that is put on the skin is pulled inward

by the

liver, and has to be detoxified. So you can save your body

the

work. When the body is constantly preoccupied with removing

stuff,

it lowers the immunity. You can also save in your wallet,

because if

you are using a lotion as a remedy for dry skin, try coconut oil

from

Spectrum.

The other issue there is why you have a skin problem. The

produce

section of a grocery store is your pharmacy. It's no secret

that the

people who eat a variety of lots of fruits and vegetables have

healthier skin than those who don't.

As for deoderants, including the crystal rocks, these contain

aluminum to plug your underarm pores. Citric acid (looks

like sugar)

works fine. You don't want aluminum near your lymph nodes.

You

don't want aluminum in your body at all. Breast cancer and

alzheimers are being correlated to metals in the body. Cook

in

glass, eat with plastic utensils, and cut with the big strong plastic

knives one can now buy for lettuce and bread. Don't wear

jewelry.

It rubs in the skin! Dr. makes the comment to the effect

that

you may feel naked without all the products to be used on one's

body,

but no one's looking...!!!!

Juicing every day for the past weeks has made a big difference in

my

skin. I mentioned Jay The Juiceman's Immune drink that includes

garlic. There's the secret for anyone who wants beautiful

skin. He

has recipes that are good for beautiful fingernails, hair, etc.

Dr.

Bernard Jensen gives another facet to health - it's bowel cleansing.

Dr. discovered how parasites keep us unhealthy, and a host

of

other things. Avoidance of polluted foods and products is

your

strength!

I know it takes awhile to undo the habit of using lotions and wearing

jewelry, including metal watches. But day by day, you start

to sense

that there is truth in all this, and can eventually do away with

most

or all the products that fill the bathroom. And the toxic

foods in

the kitchen. We don't have our own gardens anymore, and by

the time

food gets to the consumer, it has been sanitaized with all sorts

of

necessary chemicals. Watch your energy free up as you progress

in

avoidance and wiser choices. You become aware of how things

react on

the cellular level of the body. You spend your money on the correct

foods and items that give you true health. Even shampoo and

soap are

unhealthy for the body. Dr. gives recipes for those.

She writes that we should be living to 120+ years. That is

not

happening, and no one supposedly knows why. She does.

We wrinkle

and get sick because of stuff we put on or in our bodies.

The sun

doesn't cause wrinkles, its toxins stored in the skin that do.

PCB's

from detergents are a big one. The liver and organs get overworked

with the constant innundation of toxins. The body has no

energy to

function optimally in a 14 or 16 hour day. Tiredness sets

is, and we

wonder why. It's the liver being tired! If the toxins we

consumed or

are exposed to would have a noticeable immediate effect, we wouldn't

have any doubt as to their poison, yet it doesn't work that way.

We

are too polluted right now to differentiate! We can't tell right

away

when something lowers our energy. Toxins kill slowly over

years.

The American Indians didn't eat tomatoes, they considered them

poisonous. Dr. says the American Indians were so healthy

that

they sensed tomatoes had a detrimental effect on the body.

If we

free up our energy, we can start to sense what really is toxic.

You

would know by how you felt. Tomatoes contain malonic acid,

which has

all sorts of effects on the body. See "The Cure For All Cancers."

Malonic acid is in pesticide...there was awhile there where Dr.

was unsure if it was produced by the vegetable itself...

In some

vegetables, it is produced. Organic broccoli does not have

it,

regular broccoli does - from pesticide.

We should all feel so lucky to know these secrets of health. Every

day I come here, I learn new secrets, and share my own.

[Guest guest]

Nicely written. A great summary, . Thanks

Sally

[Guest guest]

Olive oil is a great alternative for moisturizing the skin. Rub it on sparingly -- a little goes a long way.

Betsy

[Guest guest]

> Hi , I think she has some good information, I have

> seen her picture, how old is she? and if all these things

> she preaches to her pupils, does she follow these principles

> because to me she doesn't look well, but looks are

> deceiving. Do you know how her health is?

> Laurie

I was just about to write the EXACT same thing! Maybe she had a past illness

that has made her look older? She just doesn't look healthy to me.

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

I recommend grapseed oil. It's got a great

consistency: not too thick and not too thin. I add

a few drops of tea tree oil to each bottle and it

suits me just fine

Jonah

Betsy wrote:

> Olive oil is a great alternative for

> moisturizing the skin. Rub it on sparingly -- a

> little goes a long way. Betsy

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If you live near any stores that sell Indian foods, grab your coconut

oil there. Its like 3 dollars for a bottle, and its more pure than the

stuff i got from the Body shop. And cheaper. You just have to heat the

bottle under runnning water before use.

I mean Indian, as in the continent, not as in Native American. Im not

sure of the politicaly correct term.

I use the oil in my hair, skin, lips, its awesome.

--- Betsy <betsy@...> wrote:

> Olive oil is a great alternative for moisturizing the skin. Rub it on

> sparingly -- a little goes a long way.

>

> Betsy

>

>

=====

Proverbs (Robin2)

If you always do what you have always done, you'll

always get what you have always got.

Is that what you want ?

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[Guest guest]

I use olive oil in my hair, too. It's a great bath oil, too. It's something I learned from Indians (in India).

Re: Lotions

If you live near any stores that sell Indian foods, grab your coconutoil there. Its like 3 dollars for a bottle, and its more pure than thestuff i got from the Body shop. And cheaper. You just have to heat thebottle under runnning water before use.I mean Indian, as in the continent, not as in Native American. Im notsure of the politicaly correct term.I use the oil in my hair, skin, lips, its awesome.--- Betsy <betsy@...> wrote:> Olive oil is a great alternative for moisturizing the skin. Rub it on> sparingly -- a little goes a long way.> > Betsy> > =====Proverbs (Robin2)If you always do what you have always done, you'll always get what you have always got. Is that what you want ?__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I will testify that olive oil is moisturizing. I use it on dry skin, on chapped lips, and I put it on my face every morning when I get out of the shower and leave it there to dry. I think it works good....Just as an example (and I am not bragging).......the other day at work a temp. asked me how old I was.....I am 37, but this guy told me he would have never guessed because I have a very young looking face....He said I looked like I was in

my mid 20's. And also, when my mother was dying in the hospital the lady in the bed next to her thought I was 17 years old, when in reality at that time I was 30!

So I think olive oil really works! I have no wrinkles either.

Sue

In a message dated 5/23/01 10:53:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gadtnd@... writes:

so, are you two saying that coconut oil is good or olive oil for moisturizing?

>>If you live near any stores that sell Indian foods, grab your coconut

>oil there. Its like 3 dollars for a bottle, and its more pure than the

>stuff i got from the Body shop. And cheaper. You just have to heat the

>bottle under runnning water before use.

>

>I mean Indian, as in the continent, not as in Native American. Im not

>sure of the politicaly correct term.

>

>I use the oil in my hair, skin, lips, its awesome.

>

>

>--- Betsy <betsy@...> wrote:

> > Olive oil is a great alternative for moisturizing the skin. Rub it on

> > sparingly -- a little goes a long way.

> >

> > Betsy

> >

[Guest guest]

so, are you two saying that coconut oil is good or olive oil for

moisturizing?

>>If you live near any stores that sell Indian foods, grab your coconut

>oil there. Its like 3 dollars for a bottle, and its more pure than the

>stuff i got from the Body shop. And cheaper. You just have to heat the

>bottle under runnning water before use.

>

>I mean Indian, as in the continent, not as in Native American. Im not

>sure of the politicaly correct term.

>

>I use the oil in my hair, skin, lips, its awesome.

>

>

>--- Betsy <betsy@...> wrote:

> > Olive oil is a great alternative for moisturizing the skin. Rub it on

> > sparingly -- a little goes a long way.

> >

> > Betsy

> >

> >

>

>

>=====

>Proverbs (Robin2)

>If you always do what you have always done, you'll

>always get what you have always got.

>Is that what you want ?

>

>__________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I don't use coconut oil for anything so I cannot speak about it. I can only say that I like to eat coconut very much. However, I don't care to have my body smell like a coconut.

Re: Lotions

so, are you two saying that coconut oil is good or olive oil for moisturizing?>>If you live near any stores that sell Indian foods, grab your coconut>oil there. Its like 3 dollars for a bottle, and its more pure than the>stuff i got from the Body shop. And cheaper. You just have to heat the>bottle under runnning water before use.>>I mean Indian, as in the continent, not as in Native American. Im not>sure of the politicaly correct term.>>I use the oil in my hair, skin, lips, its awesome.>>>--- Betsy <betsy@...> wrote:> > Olive oil is a great alternative for moisturizing the skin. Rub it on> > sparingly -- a little goes a long way.> >> > Betsy> >> >>>>=====>Proverbs (Robin2)>If you always do what you have always done, you'll>always get what you have always got.>Is that what you want ?>>__________________________________________________>

[Guest guest]

<< So I think olive oil really works! I have no wrinkles either. >>

***************

I may have to try that myself. I have wondered if it works, but I'm never

tried it yet. Wonder if it works as a conditioner for your hair???

Susie

[Guest guest]

I have a friend from India and she says they use coconut oil on their

skin and hair : )

> > Olive oil is a great alternative for moisturizing the skin. Rub

it on

> > sparingly -- a little goes a long way.

> >

> > Betsy

> >

> >

>

>

> =====

> Proverbs (Robin2)

> If you always do what you have always done, you'll

> always get what you have always got.

> Is that what you want ?

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

A long time ago I heard someone say that you shouldn't use anything on your skin that you wouldn't put in your mouth. After being on this list, now I know why (afterall it's absorbed into our bloodstream).

C

Re: Lotions

I will testify that olive oil is moisturizing. I use it on dry skin, on chapped lips, and I put it on my face every morning when I get out of the shower and leave it there to dry. I think it works good....Just as an example (and I am not bragging).......the other day at work a temp. asked me how old I was.....I am 37, but this guy told me he would have never guessed because I have a very young looking face....He said I looked like I was in my mid 20's. And also, when my mother was dying in the hospital the lady in the bed next to her thought I was 17 years old, when in reality at that time I was 30! So I think olive oil really works! I have no wrinkles either. Sue In a message dated 5/23/01 10:53:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gadtnd@... writes:

so, are you two saying that coconut oil is good or olive oil for moisturizing? >>If you live near any stores that sell Indian foods, grab your coconut >oil there. Its like 3 dollars for a bottle, and its more pure than the >stuff i got from the Body shop. And cheaper. You just have to heat the >bottle under runnning water before use. > >I mean Indian, as in the continent, not as in Native American. Im not >sure of the politicaly correct term. > >I use the oil in my hair, skin, lips, its awesome. > > >--- Betsy <betsy@...> wrote: > > Olive oil is a great alternative for moisturizing the skin. Rub it on > > sparingly -- a little goes a long way. > > > > Betsy > >

[Guest guest]

Yes

--- gail davis <gadtnd@...> wrote:

> so, are you two saying that coconut oil is good or olive oil for

> moisturizing?

>

>

> >>If you live near any stores that sell Indian foods, grab your

> coconut

> >oil there. Its like 3 dollars for a bottle, and its more pure than

> the

> >stuff i got from the Body shop. And cheaper. You just have to heat

> the

> >bottle under runnning water before use.

> >

> >I mean Indian, as in the continent, not as in Native American. Im

> not

> >sure of the politicaly correct term.

> >

> >I use the oil in my hair, skin, lips, its awesome.

> >

> >

> >--- Betsy <betsy@...> wrote:

> > > Olive oil is a great alternative for moisturizing the skin. Rub

> it on

> > > sparingly -- a little goes a long way.

> > >

> > > Betsy

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >=====

> >Proverbs (Robin2)

> >If you always do what you have always done, you'll

> >always get what you have always got.

> >Is that what you want ?

> >

> >__________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

I've been making CP for about 2.5 years now, and finally decided to take a

shot at lotions. My first batch turned out wonderful!!! I have a couple of

questions though:

- When adding my EOs, if the rule of thumb is 10-15 drops per oz of lotion,

is that total EO

amount, or of each EO (i.e. if I want to use a blend of neroli, carrot

seed, etc. for my poor

50 year old skin!)?

- Do I use rosehip seed oil as a base oil or in EO proportions?

- If lethicin is an emulsifier, can I use it instead of the stearic acid?

- What percentage of my oils can be emu?

Last question is, our family reunion will be in southern Illinois this July,

and the family has asked that I make an insect repellant lotion for everyone

to share (the mosquitos there can flat carry you off). I know citronella and

eucalyptus are supposed to be good for this, but can anyone advise as to what

proportions? I'd like to add maybe a citrus scent as well, but the event is

going to be an all-day affair on a lake, so I have to take the

photosensitivity issue into consideration.

Thanks in advance, gang!

Doing my happy lotion-making dance,

Vicki in Southern CA

[Guest guest]

Don't really know the answer to that one as it's never happened to me but

maybe she is mixing it up too much, getting too much air into the mix??

[Guest guest]

Hi there, it would be the over airating of the lotion that is causing it to

settle so much, she needs to ty to keep the blender well beneath the surface of

the lotion. That should fix the problem :-)

Debs

[Guest guest]

In einer eMail vom 31.12.2005 09:20:02 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt Flu :

Disinfecting Areas/Protect and hydrate skin against cold weather

--------------------

flu virus can survive on hands for 5 minutes, I read.

Can we reduce this by some lotion ?

Also, would it be wise to open doors , touch telefones with your sleeve,

when the virus survives on tissue.8-12h ?

Just use your hands, but then don't touch your nose/eyes/mouth

for 5min.

[Guest guest]

In einer eMail vom 31.12.2005 10:27:13 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt jackalope_lepus@...:

>This is why handwashing is so important. Wash often and for at least >20 seconds with soap.

but when the virus only survives 5 minutes on hands, wouldn't it be easier to just

_wait_ 5 minutes ?

handwashing takes also several minutes when you include running to the bathroom,

washing,drying,running back. And then you touch doorknobs,water-tap,soap,

towel, which can spread the virus

[Guest guest]

This is why handwashing is so important. Wash often and for at least

20 seconds with soap.

> flu virus can survive on hands for 5 minutes, I read.

> Can we reduce this by some lotion ?

>

> Also, would it be wise to open doors , touch telefones with your

sleeve,

> when the virus survives on tissue.8-12h ?

>

> Just use your hands, but then don't touch your nose/eyes/mouth

> for 5min.

>