Seems odd...

[Guest guest]

Sometimes I feel really bloated (like from the Schulze herbs

recently) and I will wait hours and hours, even a day or so, for

things to get better, drinking water, resting, etc. Then I'll have

some sugar (which otherwise I would stay away from) and it will get

better almost right away. Why is this?

Is it possible to make yourself too alkaline and then need something

that will quickly make your body a little more acidic? Just a

guess. I'd be interested in hearing any of your guesses/info.

Thanks,

Marie

[Guest guest]

Hi Everybody I am a member of this group for about 2 months now. I am enjoying reading all this information. It is very interesting for me because I have been doing most of these cleansing for years. Health & healing topic have been part of my favurate subject. I did not want to get engaged to writing here because my English is not very good. However, I see there are two important aspects of healing are missing in your disscution; 1- Balance 2-Relaxation If you study for example Ayour Vada (East Indian ancient Medici an) you will find very easy and understanding explanation for all these problems and also proper solution for them. (e.g. why and how sugar works in the situation like this). It says you should first find your body type then by proper eating reach to a balanced position which means "health". Another aspect is mental relaxation such as meditation which helps not only mind but also body releases toxins and as a result a good soloution for lots of digestive problems. I am not sure if I could explain my point (with lack of knoledge in English language). I will be happy to answer any question if I can.

[Guest guest]

Dear Pouran,

Excellent !

Mahkti

>

> Hi Everybody

> I am a member of this group for about 2 months now. I am enjoying

reading all this information.

> It is very interesting for me because I have been doing most of

these cleansing for years. Health & healing topic have been part of

my favurate subject. I did not want to get engaged to writing here

because my English is not very good. However, I see there are two

important aspects of healing are missing in your disscution; 1-

Balance 2-Relaxation

> If you study for example Ayour Vada (East Indian ancient Medici an)

you will find very easy and understanding explanation for all these

problems and also proper solution for them. (e.g. why and how sugar

works in the situation like this). It says you should first find your

body type then by proper eating reach to a balanced position which

means " health " . Another aspect is mental relaxation such as

meditation which helps not only mind but also body releases toxins

and as a result a good soloution for lots of digestive problems. I

am not sure if I could explain my point (with lack of knoledge in

English language). I will be happy to answer any question if I can.

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Your English is great! Thank you for sharing this insightful information.

Pouran Palizi wrote:

Hi Everybody

I am a member of this group for about 2 months now. I am enjoying

reading all this information.

It is very interesting for me because I have been doing most of these

cleansing for years. Health & healing topic have been part of my favurate

subject. I did not want to get engaged to writing here because my

English is not very good. However, I see there are two important

aspects of healing are missing in your disscution; 1- Balance 2-Relaxation

If you study for example Ayour Vada (East Indian ancient Medici an)

you will find very easy and understanding explanation for all these problems

and also proper solution for them. (e.g. why and how sugar works in the

situation like this). It says you should first find your body type then

by proper eating reach to a balanced position which means "health". Another

aspect is mental relaxation such as meditation which helps

not only mind but also body releases toxins and as a result

a good soloution for lots of digestive problems. I am not sure if

I could explain my point (with lack of knoledge in English language).

I will be happy to answer any question if I can.

[Guest guest]

What kind of sweets are you talking about? I notice that if I eat

baked goods..ie cookies, muffins and so forth...that I have the same

problem. At first I thought it was a sugar thing but then I noticed

it happens with some types of pasta's as well. Now I'm thinking its a

refined carbo thing : )

Barbara

>

> Sounds odd to me too and a little familiar.

>

> I have posted many times that my bowels wont

>

> move unless I prompt them. However, if I eat

>

> something sweet, there it goes, a BM miracle!

>

> Just once, and then I am stuck again.

>

>

>

> I have 3 theories. The first one is that it is the

>

> presence of Candida that wants to gobble the

>

> new sweets, by letting go of my stool and allows

>

> a full bowel movement. Second, it could be a

>

> food sensitivity to sugar. Like some persons get

>

> a bout of diarrhea when eating foods that disagree

>

> with them. Three, a need for the right kind of

>

> digestive enzymes.

>

>

>

> I am more to agree with the presence

>

> of candida since it involves a certain amount of

>

> gas discomfort. However, I had skipped a few

>

> meals without my enzymes and by the end of two

>

> hours I was bloated and in pain.

>

> Any other guesses?

>

>

>

> LIZ D

>

>

> Seems odd...

>

>

>

>

>

> Sometimes I feel really bloated (like from the Schulze herbs

>

> recently) and I will wait hours and hours, even a day or so, for

>

> things to get better, drinking water, resting, etc. Then I'll have

>

> some sugar (which otherwise I would stay away from) and it will get

>

> better almost right away. Why is this?

>

> Is it possible to make yourself too alkaline and then need something

>

> that will quickly make your body a little more acidic? Just a

>

>

> guess. I'd be interested in hearing any of your

> guesses/info.

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Marie

[Guest guest]

Dear Pouran,

I agree with you totally about the relaxation. That has been part of

my healing path for 7 months now. I've also recommended it to other

people on this list. The mind/body connection is very strong. I'd be

very interested in hearing more about the balance part. Can you

elaborate?

Barbara

>

> Hi Everybody

> I am a member of this group for about 2 months now. I am enjoying

reading all this information.

> It is very interesting for me because I have been doing most of

these cleansing for years. Health & healing topic have been part of my

favurate subject. I did not want to get engaged to writing here

because my English is not very good. However, I see there are two

important aspects of healing are missing in your disscution; 1-

Balance 2-Relaxation

> If you study for example Ayour Vada (East Indian ancient Medici an)

you will find very easy and understanding explanation for all these

problems and also proper solution for them. (e.g. why and how sugar

works in the situation like this). It says you should first find your

body type then by proper eating reach to a balanced position which

means " health " . Another aspect is mental relaxation such as meditation

which helps not only mind but also body releases toxins and as a

result a good soloution for lots of digestive problems. I am not sure

if I could explain my point (with lack of knoledge in English

language). I will be happy to answer any question if I can.

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Pouran, Nice name, I am assuming it is male. If I am wrong, please correct me.

Anyway. . .Great post and Think these are all important issues. Someone else posted some exercises called the " Tibeters " . And I tried them and was amazed at how wonderful I felt after them. I exercise almost everyday and do garden work and feel like I am in pretty good shape, but the tibeters worked muscles I hadn't been working because I could really feel them. I would like to encourage others to try them. They seem so simple, but they really do wonderful stuff.

For me, I find that physical activity relaxes me. Gardening relaxes me wonderfully. And I feel rewarded with increased beauty in my world for my efforts. A double bonus.

Blessings,

Donna

RE: Seems odd...

Hi Everybody I am a member of this group for about 2 months now. I am enjoying reading all this information. It is very interesting for me because I have been doing most of these cleansing for years. Health & healing topic have been part of my favurate subject. I did not want to get engaged to writing here because my English is not very good. However, I see there are two important aspects of healing are missing in your disscution; 1- Balance 2-Relaxation If you study for example Ayour Vada (East Indian ancient Medici an) you will find very easy and understanding explanation for all these problems and also proper solution for them. (e.g. why and how sugar works in the situation like this). It says you should first find your body type then by proper eating reach to a balanced position which means " health " . Another aspect is mental relaxation such as meditation which helps not only mind but also body releases toxins and as a result a good soloution for lots of digestive problems. I am not sure if I could explain my point (with lack of knoledge in English language). I will be happy to answer any question if I can.

[Guest guest]

Most traditional Medician rely on nature. They believe whatever is in nature is in human body too. ( from spiritual view human is a small complete cosmos ). Fire, Wind, and Water are nature's base elements. Every individual should have a balance of these three in his (her) body. If there is imbalance the same thing happens in the body that may happen in the nature. There are three basic body type (according Ayorveda) which called VATA (wind) PITA (fire) COPHA (water). Diffrent people could be any of these tthree or a combination of them. There are some questioner wich with filling them out you'll know what is your body type. Then you should find out the diet which is good for that body type. with my experience most people in this group especially the ones who are concipated, are VATA type. they will be fine if they follow the right food for they body type. I am not talking re: cleansing that should be down even in Ayorveda . I remember couple weeks ago I read the story of one of the group member's who waqs complainig of her B/M . she said she runs she does exercise she has a good diet and still she has problem with her B/M. She has VATA DISORDER and she can fix the problem with just alittle bit change in her diet. I you really are interested give me some time I may be able to find some information and also questioner in my stuff. I may scan them and e-mail them for you. Rabbitbrain@... wrote: threethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethreethree

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna, Physically I am a woman, Mentally there is no difference. I am happy to hear you have found something to relax you. I am not sure if what you do is the same as "FIVE RITES". If they are in my experience they are also great. when I do them I can feel the fellow of energy all over my body (inside out). I also do TI-CHI & HEALING CHIQUAN . Everyday meditation at least for 20 years. It makes me COOL. I like that. Donna <ruthful@...> wrote:

Hi Pouran, Nice name, I am assuming it is male. If I am wrong, please correct me.

Anyway. . .Great post and Think these are all important issues. Someone else posted some exercises called the "Tibeters". And I tried them and was amazed at how wonderful I felt after them. I exercise almost everyday and do garden work and feel like I am in pretty good shape, but the tibeters worked muscles I hadn't been working because I could really feel them. I would like to encourage others to try them. They seem so simple, but they really do wonderful stuff.

For me, nbspnd that physical activity relaxes me. Gardening relaxes me wonderfully. And I feel rewarded with increased beauty in my world for my efforts. A double bonus.

[Guest guest]

Hi Barbara,

Did you get my reply. I lost it after writing. If not let me know.

barbinohio@... wrote: Dear Pouran,I agree with you totally about the relaxation. That has been part of my healing path for 7 months now. I've also recommended it to other people on this list. The mind/body connection is very strong. I'd be very interested in hearing more about the balance part. Can you elaborate? Barbara > > Hi Everybody > I am a member of this group for about 2 months now. I am enjoying reading all this information. > It is very interesting for me because I have been doing most of these cleansing for years. Health & healing topic have been part of my favurate subject. I did not want to get engaged to writing here because my English is not very good. However, I see there are two important aspects of healing are missing in your disscution; 1- Balance 2-Relaxation > If you study for example Ayour Vada (East Indian ancient Medici an) you will find very easy and understanding explanation for all these problems and also proper solution for them. (e.g. why and how sugar works in the situation like this). It says you should first find your body type then by proper eating reach to a balanced position which means "health". Another aspect is mental relaxation such as meditation which helps not only mind but also body releases toxins and as a result a good soloution for lots of digestive problems. I am not sure if I could explain my point (with lack of knoledge in English language). I will be happy to answer any question if I can. > > > > --------------------------------->

[Guest guest]

Dear , Thanks for giving me in courage. I don't' mind if some of you correct my English. then I will learn I will have B/M info. + related English vocab!!!! I know some of you will say "this is not relevant to the group's subject":> . Blair <lblair@...> wrote: Your English is great! Thank you for sharing this insightfulinformation. Pouran Palizi wrote:>>> Hi Everybody>> I am a member of this group for about 2 months now. I am enjoying> reading all this information.>> It is very interesting for me because I have been doing most of these> cleansing for years. Health & healing topic have been part of my> favurate subject. I did not want to get engaged to writing here> because my English is not very good. However, I see there are two> important aspects of healing are missing in your disscution; 1-> Balance 2-Relaxation>> If you study for example Ayour Vada (East Indian ancient Medici an)> you will find very easy and understanding explanation for all these> problems and also proper solution for them. (e.g. why and how sugar> works in the situation like this). It says you should first find your> body type then by proper eating reach to a balanced position which> means "health". Another aspect is mental relaxation such as meditation> which helps not only mind but also body releases toxins and as a> result a good soloution for lots of digestive problems. I am not sure> if I could explain my point (with lack of knoledge in English> language). I will be happy to answer any question if I can.>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------->

[Guest guest]

Dear , Thanks for giving me in courage. I don't' mind if some of you correct my English. then I will learn I will have B/M info. + related English vocab!!!! I know some of you will say "this is not relevant to the group's subject":> . Blair <lblair@...> wrote: Your English is great! Thank you for sharing this insightfulinformation. Pouran Palizi wrote:>>> Hi Everybody>> I am a member of this group for about 2 months now. I am enjoying> reading all this information.>> It is very interesting for me because I have been doing most of these> cleansing for years. Health & healing topic have been part of my> favurate subject. I did not want to get engaged to writing here> because my English is not very good. However, I see there are two> important aspects of healing are missing in your disscution; 1-> Balance 2-Relaxation>> If you study for example Ayour Vada (East Indian ancient Medici an)> you will find very easy and understanding explanation for all these> problems and also proper solution for them. (e.g. why and how sugar> works in the situation like this). It says you should first find your> body type then by proper eating reach to a balanced position which> means "health". Another aspect is mental relaxation such as meditation> which helps not only mind but also body releases toxins and as a> result a good soloution for lots of digestive problems. I am not sure> if I could explain my point (with lack of knoledge in English> language). I will be happy to answer any question if I can.>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------->

[Guest guest]

Dear , Thanks for giving me in courage. I don't' mind if some of you correct my English. then I will learn I will have B/M info. + related English vocab!!!! I know some of you will say "this is not relevant to the group's subject":> . Blair <lblair@...> wrote: Your English is great! Thank you for sharing this insightfulinformation. Pouran Palizi wrote:>>> Hi Everybody>> I am a member of this group for about 2 months now. I am enjoying> reading all this information.>> It is very interesting for me because I have been doing most of these> cleansing for years. Health & healing topic have been part of my> favurate subject. I did not want to get engaged to writing here> because my English is not very good. However, I see there are two> important aspects of healing are missing in your disscution; 1-> Balance 2-Relaxation>> If you study for example Ayour Vada (East Indian ancient Medici an)> you will find very easy and understanding explanation for all these> problems and also proper solution for them. (e.g. why and how sugar> works in the situation like this). It says you should first find your> body type then by proper eating reach to a balanced position which> means "health". Another aspect is mental relaxation such as meditation> which helps not only mind but also body releases toxins and as a> result a good soloution for lots of digestive problems. I am not sure> if I could explain my point (with lack of knoledge in English> language). I will be happy to answer any question if I can.>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------->

[Guest guest]

Sounds odd to me too and a little familiar.

I have posted many times that my bowels wont

move unless I prompt them. However, if I eat

something sweet, there it goes, a BM miracle!

Just once, and then I am stuck again.

I have 3 theories. The first one is that it is the

presence of Candida that wants to gobble the

new sweets, by letting go of my stool and allows

a full bowel movement. Second, it could be a

food sensitivity to sugar. Like some persons get

a bout of diarrhea when eating foods that disagree

with them. Three, a need for the right kind of

digestive enzymes.

I am more to agree with the presence

of candida since it involves a certain amount of

gas discomfort. However, I had skipped a few

meals without my enzymes and by the end of two

hours I was bloated and in pain.

Any other guesses?

LIZ D

Seems odd...

Sometimes I feel really bloated (like from the Schulze herbs

recently) and I will wait hours and hours, even a day or so, for

things to get better, drinking water, resting, etc. Then I'll have

some sugar (which otherwise I would stay away from) and it will get

better almost right away. Why is this?

Is it possible to make yourself too alkaline and then need something

that will quickly make your body a little more acidic? Just a

guess. I'd be interested in hearing any of your guesses/info.

Thanks,

Marie

[Guest guest]

I am not sure about it's relation to blood type. I den't' think it is religious. It comes from East India. It is very popular in North America and also I heard in Australia. There are many people who are expert in this field. Some medical doctor's in Canada I know which have spent some time to get the certificate for this and also has put all the knowledge in computer. We may call it computerized ayorveda!! Anyway during last 10 years I have had very defective and positive experience with it. If I can find some time I tell you more about my experiences. You may find lots of books on this subcect. try Amazon.com Rabbitbrain@... wrote: subjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubjectsubject

[Guest guest]

No, I didn't get your response but got 3 haha

By the way...here is a website to a ayurveda practioner. You can

email him questions. I emailed him once to find a practioner in my

area but it was too far away.

http://www.healthstores.com/ayurveda/Default.htm

Barbara

> >

> > Hi Everybody

> > I am a member of this group for about 2 months now. I am enjoying

> reading all this information.

> > It is very interesting for me because I have been doing most of

> these cleansing for years. Health & healing topic have been part of

my

> favurate subject. I did not want to get engaged to writing here

> because my English is not very good. However, I see there are two

> important aspects of healing are missing in your disscution; 1-

> Balance 2-Relaxation

> > If you study for example Ayour Vada (East Indian ancient Medici

an)

> you will find very easy and understanding explanation for all these

> problems and also proper solution for them. (e.g. why and how sugar

> works in the situation like this). It says you should first find

your

> body type then by proper eating reach to a balanced position which

> means " health " . Another aspect is mental relaxation such as

meditation

> which helps not only mind but also body releases toxins and as a

> result a good soloution for lots of digestive problems. I am not

sure

> if I could explain my point (with lack of knoledge in English

> language). I will be happy to answer any question if I can.

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

[Guest guest]

What do you mean by finding your body type?

Explain more please?

LIZ D

RE: Seems odd...

Hi Everybody I am a member of this group for about 2 months now. I am enjoying reading all this information. It is very interesting for me because I have been doing most of these cleansing for years. Health & healing topic have been part of my favurate subject. I did not want to get engaged to writing here because my English is not very good. However, I see there are two important aspects of healing are missing in your disscution; 1- Balance 2-Relaxation If you study for example Ayour Vada (East Indian ancient Medici an) you will find very easy and understanding explanation for all these problems and also proper solution for them. (e.g. why and how sugar works in the situation like this). It says you should first find your body type then by proper eating reach to a balanced position which means "health". Another aspect is mental relaxation such as meditation which helps not only mind but also body releases toxins and as a result a good soloution for lots of digestive problems. I am not sure if I could explain my point (with lack of knoledge in English language). I will be happy to answer any question if I can.

[Guest guest]

Any thing with sugar in it. However I was reading in

an enzyme therapy book that some people can be

Carbohydrate intolerant. It can cause constipation and

also it is found with persons suffering from Candida.

Sounds much like me! I just ordered some enzymes

that will digest yeasts. Now I will try to find enzymes that

will digest these carbs and see if that puts me in full function.

Then I read that if you have a wheat allergy it can show itself

with symptoms of constipation. Now I am trying to find a

way to get wheat free pasta's to eliminate this theory.

What a world.

LIZ D

Seems odd...

>

>

>

>

>

> Sometimes I feel really bloated (like from the Schulze herbs

>

> recently) and I will wait hours and hours, even a day or so, for

>

> things to get better, drinking water, resting, etc. Then I'll have

>

> some sugar (which otherwise I would stay away from) and it will get

>

> better almost right away. Why is this?

>

> Is it possible to make yourself too alkaline and then need something

>

> that will quickly make your body a little more acidic? Just a

>

>

> guess. I'd be interested in hearing any of your

> guesses/info.

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Marie

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your reply. I thought I would be in the VATA group

because if I had more wind things would move.

I read some members eating foods for their blood type, I wonder

if there may be some resemblance if compared in studies.

I came across the term Ayorveda, I thought it was a religious lifestyle.

Is it? What is it's origin? Ok, so I am mentally limited.

Take your time, I am interested, and in the meantime I will do a search

on what Ayorveda is so you don't have to tackle that question for me.

Thank you very much, LIZ D

RE: Seems odd...

Most traditional Medician rely on nature. They believe whatever is in nature is in human body too. ( from spiritual view human is a small complete cosmos ). Fire, Wind, and Water are nature's base elements. Every individual should have a balance of these three in his (her) body. If there is imbalance the same thing happens in the body that may happen in the nature. There are three basic body type (according Ayorveda) which called VATA (wind) PITA (fire) COPHA (water). Diffrent people could be any of these tthree or a combination of them. There are some questioner wich with filling them out you'll know what is your body type. Then you should find out the diet which is good for that body type. with my experience most people in this group especially the ones who are concipated, are VATA type. they will be fine if they follow the right food for they body type. I am not !

talking re: cleansing that should be down even in Ayorveda . I remember couple weeks ago I read the story of one of the group member's who waqs complainig of her B/M . she said she runs she does exercise she has a good diet and still she has problem with her B/M. She has VATA DISORDER and she can fix the problem with just alittle bit change in her diet. I you really are interested give me some time I may be able to find some information and also questioner in my stuff. I may scan them and e-mail them for you.

[Guest guest]

Hi Barbara, Finally I found some time to sit here and write . I really am delighted to here about the role relaxation plays in your healing. I have been doing meditation for more than 20 years now. I used to do yoga. Recently I have started to do Healing Chi quan and Ti Chi. Couple months before I see Tabatian Rites in this list, I started to do it because of a friend's recommendation . (I borrowed the book from library). I have attached some info re Ayur Veda to couple other e-mails in this group. I hope you also enjoy it.

[Guest guest]

Hi Liz Here is part of information which I scanned. Because doesn't let me to attach more than three files, I attached the rest to other e-mails. I could post here lots of information but unfortunatally I found most of them right protected and I am not able to re issue them. Anyway I think Dr. Chopra is one of the best sources to refer to in this regard. He has a web site I believe (Dr.Chopra.com) that he is ready to answer questions. Also one of my scans is the cover of a book which has valuable info. I hope you can find good sorces. after you learn a bit about body types, I tell you about my experiences. Then it will make more sense.sourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessourcessources

[Guest guest]

<< Anyway I think Dr. Chopra is one of the best sources to refer to in this

regard. >>

Dear Pouran.

I agree with you on that subject. I meant to write about it earlier but never

got around to it. I have a lot of his books, most all of his tapes and took

several of his seminars. I wish my moneytree would grow better so I could go

to La Jolla, California and spent some time on his retreat. Your message did

not come through properly. Here is Depak Chopra's website if anyone is

interested.

Christel

http://www.chopra.com/ccwbabout.htm

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/5/01 11:43:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, pouranbc@... writes:

). I have attached some info re Ayur Veda to couple other e-mails in this group. I hope you also enjoy it.

I am not seeing any attachments ....is anyone else getting them?

Namaste,

HerbalMomma

[Guest guest]

Hi, Christel

the sme here .I would love to spent some time in his retreat. I have almost all his books and also some of his lectures in tapes. It seems I have problem with my mail box. I am trying to solve it. Thanks for reply. By the way you should know your body type. What are you ? :>

Christelti@... wrote: << Anyway I think Dr. Chopra is one of the best sources to refer to in this regard. >>Dear Pouran.I agree with you on that subject. I meant to write about it earlier but never got around to it. I have a lot of his books, most all of his tapes and took several of his seminars. I wish my moneytree would grow better so I could go to La Jolla, California and spent some time on his retreat. Your message did not come through properly. Here is Depak Chopra's website if anyone is interested.Christelhttp://www.chopra.com/ccwbabout.htm

[Guest guest]

<< By the way you should know your body type. What are you ? :> >>

Hi Pouran:

I am a Pita/ Vata. What are you?

Christel