Guest guest Posted July 27, 2001 Report Share Posted July 27, 2001 < Garlic kills prostate cancer cells in the petri dish in the lab. I was diagnosed with prostate cancer 8 years ago and cancelled my surgery 2 weeks before it was to take place which rather enraged my urologist. I have my PSA checked now once a year and it fluctuates between .7 and .75. When the PSA gets above 4.0 is when they start probing further. Jim B >> **************** Hi, Jim, I need to definitely get my husband started on this. He had a rare type of testicular cancer and had to have surgery back in 1991. He almost let it go too long. If we had only known about this stuff now. Since it was very rare, hardly anyone else would ever have it in our area. Well, it turns out that a guy his age had it too in our area. This was freaking the doctors out and they were studying how it was possible that two people had this type of testicular cancer. They even talked about studying the water, etc. Well, now he has no problems, but after he had the surgery, he had to have radiation therapy just as a precaution. Keep in mind that neither one of us knew anything about eating healthy, vitamins, garlic, etc., at this period of time in our life. So maybe I'd better get him on the garlic heavily since he's had a cancer. It also runs in his family. bye, Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2001 Report Share Posted July 27, 2001 I'm of the belief that a couple of cloves ingested each day would take care of a lot of ills. / I've tried the " more is better " with garlic - up to 15 or 20 cloves a day - and didn't find any added benefits except more " do you eat garlic? " comments. Jim- Do you still eat 4 or more cloves a day? Your system must be so healthy. Has eating garlic eliminated all of your digestive concerns as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2001 Report Share Posted July 27, 2001 <<Jim- Do you still eat 4 or more cloves a day? Your system must be so healthy. Has eating garlic eliminated all of your digestive concerns as well?>> I currently ingest 2 to 4 cloves on a daily basis via the press method I mentioned earlier. Been doing that pretty faithfully for about 3 months after being very intermittent for a few years. Healthy? Can't say about that. Haven't had a cold in at least 2 years and haven't had the flu for 5, though I have had annual winter flu shots for the last 2 years (a free Medicare benefit). Part of my problem is that I have never had a digestive concern. In all my life I could/can eat most anything I wish without internal complaint. I like any kind of food from liver and onions (ummm) to sushi to corned beef and cabbage. Have toured China and the Soviet Union, eating local food and never had a problem. Have had flatulence on occasion, but after eating lots of legumes for several years, don't get much of that any more. (Have read that your body adjusts to legumes and onions, after you eat them for a while.) My number one reason for eating garlic is cancer prevention. Garlic kills prostate cancer cells in the petri dish in the lab. I was diagnosed with prostate cancer 8 years ago and cancelled my surgery 2 weeks before it was to take place which rather enraged my urologist. I have my PSA checked now once a year and it fluctuates between .7 and .75. When the PSA gets above 4.0 is when they start probing further. Jim B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2001 Report Share Posted July 27, 2001 " Part of my problem is that I have never had a digestive concern. " You are so fortunate for this. I too eat a variety of international foods, but must stay away from bread no matter where I travel. " My number one reason for eating garlic is cancer prevention. Garlic kills prostate cancer cells in the petri dish in the lab. I was diagnosed with prostate cancer 8 years ago and cancelled my surgery 2 weeks before it was to take place which rather enraged my urologist. I have my PSA checked now once a year and it fluctuates between .7 and .75. When the PSA gets above 4.0 is when they start probing further. " Wow. What an accomplishment. Cancer is so scary. It's inspiring to hear that you took your health into your own hands and successfully treated the prastate cancer. continued good health, Betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2001 Report Share Posted July 27, 2001 Garlic people, Could I slightly sautee whole garlic cloves in olive oil and still get some garlic benefits? I ate 7 wonderful cloves tonight which were pierced and sauteed first. I am certain that eating garlic raw is more pungent and pure, but my question is this...are there still some benefits at all when the cloves are ingested al dante? Not wanting to cheat, Betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2001 Report Share Posted July 28, 2001 --- betsy@... wrote: > Garlic people, Could I slightly sautee whole garlic > cloves in olive oil and still get some garlic benefits? Yes, you can still get some benefit from garlic eaten this way. How much is hard to say. One of the benefits of live foods as opposed to cooked however slightly is the active enzymes in them. Once you apply heat, they're gone. Plenty of other active constituents of garlic are still there, though. Garlic in almost any form is beneficial, but fresh crushed cloves are believed to be the absolute best way to ingest them. Rose __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2001 Report Share Posted July 28, 2001 <<Garlic people, Could I slightly sautee whole garlic cloves in olive oil and still get some garlic benefits? I ate 7 wonderful cloves tonight which were pierced and sauteed first. I am certain that eating garlic raw is more pungent and pure, but my question is this...are there still some benefits at all when the cloves are ingested al dante? Not wanting to cheat, Betsy>> Hi Betsy: Below are several reports or quotations relating to garlic and heat. Some indicate that heating garlic will destroy many of the benefits of garlic, while one listed here by a researcher at Penn State University, indicates that if you let a clove sit for 10 minutes after peeling it, then cooking does not destroy the benefits. I can't find the source, but did see one that says that heating it over 130 degrees killed the " goodies. " Yet in all of this material and many other sources that I have searched, indicates that ingesting garlic in any form provides a lot of benefits. I stick to the raw because that is what was used in the lab tests for killing prostate cancer. Just 'eat it until it (comes out the) pores!' Relative to " how much " will provide you benefits, have found no definitive answer, but it is generally agreed that 1 or 2 cloves a day of raw garlic will provide you with a great amount of anti-cancer and antibiotic protection. You many not find 'instant' benefits, but I guarantee you that if you eat it daily, colds and flu will either be reduced in quantity or go away completely. Jim B An excellent report on the cancer prevention properties of garlic, and the conclusion that this property is destroyed by heat can be found at: http://audumla.mdacc.tmc.edu/~oncolog/03_Garlic_Res.html - portions of which are copied below: " To the centuries-old lore of the power of garlic as an antibiotic, J. Wargovich, Ph.D., associate professor of medicine at M. D. Cancer Center, has added data showing garlic's effectiveness in preventing the development of esophageal and colon cancer in rodents. Other laboratories have shown garlic to be active against mammary cancer, skin cancer, and lung cancer in rats. " " .....A third drawback of DAS* is that because it is lipid soluble, it breaks down when heated. " If you smell garlic cooking in your kitchen, you've destroyed a lot of the compounds that we think are cancer preventive, " Wargovich said. Because people are hesitant to eat a lot of raw garlic, his laboratory is investigating some of its water-soluble components, which persist during limited heating and are far less smelly. " We're trying to find a potential chemopreventive agent that's palatable, " he said. One water- soluble compound that he has found effective in inhibiting DMH- induced colon tumors in mice is S-allyl-cysteine (SAC). Although larger doses of SAC than of DAS are required for inhibition, SAC seems to be less toxic. " *(i.e., in isolating the 60 to 100 chemicals in garlic, they isolated " one of the most powerful anticarcinogens around.... dialyl sulfide (DAS), " notorious for its odor " which " ...smells pretty awful in the laboratory. " ) Relative to cooking, a remark is found at: http://www.islandscene.com/food/2001/010404/garlic/page2.asp?tz=7 which indicates that cooking " ..may render it less potent. " " Researchers continue to study the health benefits of garlic. The consensus is that one clove of raw garlic a day may have positive effects on health. Cooking garlic may render it less potent. There are still questions about the proper dosage, potency and efficacy of various dried, aged, or deodorized garlic preparations. " Regarding cooking and medicinal values at: http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m0NAH/2_29/53929967/p1/article.jhtml " JOHN MILNER, PH.D., a nutritionist at Penn State University, set out to discover why cooking garlic destroys its medicinal value. He fed one group of rats fresh-peeled, raw garlic and fed another group garlic that was peeled, then cooked. He then exposed both groups to a carcinogen. The fresh garlic blocked the carcinogen's effect, but the cooked version didn't. Then he added another variable--time. He peeled the garlic as usual, but then let the cloves sit for 10 minutes before cooking. This cooked garlic did protect the rats from the carcinogen. According to Milner, when you peel garlic you release an enzyme called allinase, which triggers a series of chemical reactions giving garlic its healing properties. Oxygen activates allinase, while heat inactivates it, so when you peel the garlic and immediately toss it in the pan, you're not giving the healing compounds a chance to form. " Finally, regarding garlic breath from: http://www.jsonline.com/entree/cooking/oct00/garlic25102400.asp " There is no cure for garlic breath. Chewing parsley or Eclipse gum may temporarily mask the wicked odor, but it won't make it go away. Garlic's only escape is through pores of the body. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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