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-you might also consider getting colonic hydrotherapy done - this sure

helped me in the beginning - and it gets everything GOING ! You could clean

out using your colema board AFTER that??? just a suggestion....

wendy

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>Dear . I red your story on your first colema.

>Your must be really toxic.

>when I first started 10 years ago I actually got nauseated and had to throw

>up at the same time. Quite an ordeal;

>Leave the colander out if it is to much trouble. You will still see

>gallstones and odd subjects if you don't flush. Because they float as

>everything else sinks.

>What did you put in your colema water?

>Try using the less forceful flow at the beginning, you may have better

>results. It just takes longer.

>Please don't give up. Your colon seems to be very impacted and you need to

>get the stuff out.

>Patience, patience, patience.

>Love and Light

>Christel

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some people ARE very compacted... my friend took 4 visits to the colon

therapist before she REALLY moved - and she has been fine ever since. Some

people also have a hard time on their own doing a colemic board... i'm

suggesting this because hydro colon therapy REALLY does work - if it doesn't

the first time - then it will thereafter...

I found hydro colon therapy extremely relaxing in the way it was done.

My peristaltic muscles were 'weak' from bad eating habits over YEARS... and

when they 'kicked in' it was nice in the beginning when I was first learning

about this to have help - i was in severe pain and had no idea what was

going on with me (DUH! .... i know!) ... but it just was a great way to

go - I would recommend it for everyone - i truly never felt so good until

after that treatment... truly felt wonderful.

wendy

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>

>

><< -you might also consider getting colonic hydrotherapy done - this

>sure

> helped me in the beginning - and it gets everything GOING ! You could

clean

> out using your colema board AFTER that??? just a suggestion....

> wendy

> >>

>=====

>The above is a good suggestion. It reminded me of my first encounter with

>that. I was like , totally compacted. I spend one hour with a

>professional colon therapist on the table getting colonics. End result----

>nothing.

>Their flow is powerful and they could not get anything out of me. They were

>shaking their head.

>After that I did colemas twice a day and little by little I finally managed

>to get the flow all the way to the ascending colon.

>Christel

>

>

>Subscription email:

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Dear . I red your story on your first colema.

Your must be really toxic.

when I first started 10 years ago I actually got nauseated and had to throw

up at the same time. Quite an ordeal;

Leave the colander out if it is to much trouble. You will still see

gallstones and odd subjects if you don't flush. Because they float as

everything else sinks.

What did you put in your colema water?

Try using the less forceful flow at the beginning, you may have better

results. It just takes longer.

Please don't give up. Your colon seems to be very impacted and you need to

get the stuff out.

Patience, patience, patience.

Love and Light

Christel

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<< -you might also consider getting colonic hydrotherapy done - this

sure

helped me in the beginning - and it gets everything GOING ! You could clean

out using your colema board AFTER that??? just a suggestion....

wendy

>>

=====

The above is a good suggestion. It reminded me of my first encounter with

that. I was like , totally compacted. I spend one hour with a

professional colon therapist on the table getting colonics. End result----

nothing.

Their flow is powerful and they could not get anything out of me. They were

shaking their head.

After that I did colemas twice a day and little by little I finally managed

to get the flow all the way to the ascending colon.

Christel

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;

I can't say for sure, but if you did get to feel the lumps and they were

impacted stools, I would imagine you did in fact need in the worst way to do

a colonic/enema. The shaky legs could have been the positioning that you'd

done to try to not 'break' your board, but as you probably notice now it

aint too likely to break very easily. So, as you now realize, relaxing is

the key for your getting better fills and releases. Don't force it, just let

it happen, soon you'll realize the fill is getting over to the ascending

colon, and then chances are real good you're going to be telling us of some

odors that smelled like dead carcasses when putrefied mater releases from

that area of the colon. You'll probably also realize a bit of light

headedness too when that happens.

Dale

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my first colema

> I just did my first colema at home, what an ordeal in my tiny

> bathroom! It took me four hours to get through it from beginning to

> finish. I put a collander in the toilet bowl, which made the toilet

> overflow. Don't ask me why but one other time I tried the collander

> it also overflowed the toilet.

>

> At first I couldn't get the water to go in very much it just sort of

> trickled out, but after a lot of adjusting and relaxing I did get

> water to go in. Then after about 15 minutes my legs started shaking

> uncontrollably and my teeth were chattering, I just kept deep

> breathing until I had to take a break (that's when I flushed the

> toilet and it overflowed. got rid of the collander). All the while I

> was massaging my pelvic and abdominal area. I did feel big long

> lumps come & go and move around. When I continued and also had the

> shaking legs and shivering until I finished the bucket. In the end

> all I got out was some chaff, a few undigested food bits and a few

> bits of mucus. I was very disappointed.

>

> Can anyone shed any light on my experience? Is it just a giant worm

> obstruction?

>

>

>

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Christel

I can hear the sloshing but it seems to come from middle and left side.

Maybe I am getting to it. I have had only one colon cleanse done

professionally and she said that most times when the ascending colon is

finally cleaned along with the coecum, there is usually a feeling of hot

debris that travels out. I guess that is because it is so hard to clear

that area and stuff stuck there festers and ferments for a long time. I

have never had that feeling yet . Been doing this now several times a week,

for 4 months. Ed

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<< What exactly gives you the feeling that you have reached the

ascending colon? >>

I have done it for so long I can feel the water. But you can also hear a

slushing when you massage that part of your colon. That is indication that

water has reached that part.

Hope that helps.

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In a message dated 04/01/2001 10:18:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

e2jhale@... writes:

<< when the ascending colon is

finally cleaned along with the coecum, there is usually a feeling of hot

debris that travels out. I guess that is because it is so hard to clear

that area and stuff stuck there festers and ferments for a long time. >>

=====

Ed, I never had that feeling either. But you will definitely feel the

slushing when you get to that point.

A great feeling of relief when it finally takes the exit route :-))

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I would love to go and have hydro colon therapy done, but there is no place

within in hundred and fifty miles of me, that would do that, I believe. (I'm

150 miles west of Dallas). I can't afford a colema board, and have a gut

feeling (pardon the pun) that I wouldn't do it right anyway. I do enemas,

however, twice or three times a week and have succeeded somewhat in

unplugging myself. Is there a chance that with enemas I might EVENTUALLY get

everything out? I mean I know it would take much longer than with a board or

hydro, but its better than nothing, right? anyones help on this is

appreciated.

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I am reading this thread with interest. I have been doing enemas and colema board treatments for some time now. I remember when I first started and nearly passed out when the first movement passed. It was horrible!!!!

I just read a really short book today called "The Oxygen Answer for Health and Healing" by Tonita d'Raye in it she suggests that if people are really impacted and constipated like you describe to add stabilized oxygen to the diet. She says one page 21, "As we get older many of us battle irregularity and bowel problems, often beginning with poor elimination. Many health professionals believe that death begins in the colon, and the average person might have as much as 10 to 12 pounds of hardened mucus toxic-waste in the colon. Magnesium-based stabilized oxygen products provide life-giving oxygen for the whole body but primarily work to gently cleanse the bowel of putrefied waste and other toxins. This supplement is not a laxative, which might cause cramping or weaken the body. Although loose stools may be experienced for a time when first using the supplement, this is not diarrhea in the typical sense. The waste is oxidized so well that it liquefies. By flooding the colon with oxygen we turn the stored waste mater of a lifetime into mush, and eliminate it. Frequent stools will cease as soon as the digestive track is free of this old hardened matter and normal elimination will resume."

Okay, with that said. I have read what people say about Homozone. I haven't tried it, but it seems to be an oxygen based product. I have never tried stabilized oxygen. I am wanting to try it, but would like some other people's input on their experiences if you have tried it. I do sell several brands, but don't know which is best. Has anyone tried any of them? I have Advanced Bio Institute Stabilized Oxygen, which is the one I was leaning toward trying. I have Rose Creek Liquid Vitamin O. And I have Zell Liquid Oxygen. Has anyone tried any of these? If so, what is your opinion on them?

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-----Original Message-----From: Christelti@... [mailto:Christelti@...]Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 11:59 AMbowel cleanse Subject: Re: my first colema<< -you might also consider getting colonic hydrotherapy done - this surehelped me in the beginning - and it gets everything GOING ! You could cleanout using your colema board AFTER that??? just a suggestion....wendy >>=====The above is a good suggestion. It reminded me of my first encounter with that. I was like , totally compacted. I spend one hour with a professional colon therapist on the table getting colonics. End result---- nothing.Their flow is powerful and they could not get anything out of me. They were shaking their head.After that I did colemas twice a day and little by little I finally managed to get the flow all the way to the ascending colon.ChristelSubscription email: mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

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I am phoning to try to get an appointment with a hydrotherapy clinic tomorrow.

I'm curious: how many sessions did you initially take? I hear just two sessions

usually does wonders for people.

Just curious,

Jonah

D & WMcPhail wrote:

> -you might also consider getting colonic hydrotherapy done - this sure

> helped me in the beginning - and it gets everything GOING ! You could clean

> out using your colema board AFTER that??? just a suggestion....

> wendy

>

> Re: my first colema

>

> >Dear . I red your story on your first colema.

> >Your must be really toxic.

> >when I first started 10 years ago I actually got nauseated and had to throw

> >up at the same time. Quite an ordeal;

> >Leave the colander out if it is to much trouble. You will still see

> >gallstones and odd subjects if you don't flush. Because they float as

> >everything else sinks.

> >What did you put in your colema water?

> >Try using the less forceful flow at the beginning, you may have better

> >results. It just takes longer.

> >Please don't give up. Your colon seems to be very impacted and you need to

> >get the stuff out.

> >Patience, patience, patience.

> >Love and Light

> >Christel

> >

> >

> >Subscription email:

> >mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

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yes 2 - ... They like to get you in for about 5 and will usually knock the

price down a fair amount - if you go for more... for me the two were fine.

wendy

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>>

>> >Dear . I red your story on your first colema.

>> >Your must be really toxic.

>> >when I first started 10 years ago I actually got nauseated and had to

throw

>> >up at the same time. Quite an ordeal;

>> >Leave the colander out if it is to much trouble. You will still see

>> >gallstones and odd subjects if you don't flush. Because they float as

>> >everything else sinks.

>> >What did you put in your colema water?

>> >Try using the less forceful flow at the beginning, you may have better

>> >results. It just takes longer.

>> >Please don't give up. Your colon seems to be very impacted and you need

to

>> >get the stuff out.

>> >Patience, patience, patience.

>> >Love and Light

>> >Christel

>> >

>> >

>> >Subscription email:

>> >mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

>> >

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susan, no reason you cant be successful using enemas. your right it will tke longer but doing a series of enemas each time should clear you. i can usually get the first enema to fill my ascending colon and feel ive done a good job with a series of three each time i feel i need an enema. fred

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Hi ,

I believe that you will get it out with an enema bag. I got mine clean using one, then decided it would be so much easier with a colema board. No up and down and changing the bag. It will take some time though. I got mine clean by doing a minimum of three bags a day until you can hold a full bag with no problem. I also did a high enema, which means that after you get the water flowing in, you gently feed the tube into yourself about 8 to 10 inches. This gets the water higher and cleans better in my opinion.

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-----Original Message-----From: str8barber@... [mailto:str8barber@...]Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 12:54 AMbowel cleanse Subject: Re: my first colemaI would love to go and have hydro colon therapy done, but there is no place within in hundred and fifty miles of me, that would do that, I believe. (I'm 150 miles west of Dallas). I can't afford a colema board, and have a gut feeling (pardon the pun) that I wouldn't do it right anyway. I do enemas, however, twice or three times a week and have succeeded somewhat in unplugging myself. Is there a chance that with enemas I might EVENTUALLY get everything out? I mean I know it would take much longer than with a board or hydro, but its better than nothing, right? anyones help on this is appreciated. Subscription email: mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

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<< I mean I know it would take much longer than with a board or

hydro, but its better than nothing, right? anyones help on this is

appreciated. >>

****************************

Hi, ,

So you're a Texan? I'm one, too.

Susie

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- you could have areas of your colon that are 'misformed' (many of us

do) and also could have problems with your peristaltic muscle 'kicking in'.

I had that problem on first hydrotherapy - and was extremely sick. I was an

hour and a half before any release and the peristaltic 'waves' had me in

crushing pain.

There are some naturopaths who have written that most people in 'today's

world' do not have properly 'formed' colons because of the way we are taught

to eat from early ages... we still survive (!) but we have lots of problems

in this way. Juicing many times is a big help in this way - consistently

juicing really 'frees' up the colon. The interesting thing about my 'long

release time' was that for the entire year before I had been doing serious

herbal cleanses on my own and I knew that I had cleansed out a lot of

garbage already... but for me the hydrotherapy was a huge help ...

I'm so sorry that you are feeling crummy.... and I truly hope you are

feeling better soon...

wendy

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>> -you might also consider getting colonic hydrotherapy done - this

sure

>>helped me in the beginning - and it gets everything GOING ! You could

clean

>>out using your colema board AFTER that??? just a suggestion....

>>wendy

>

>Thanks everyone for replies, I have been VERY nauseous and sick ever

>since that colema.

>

>I have had hydrotherapy done 3 times and the therapist was always

>able to get some releases from me, however I found the treatment a

>little rough, the speculum painful, and also expensive, which is why

>I'd like to do it at home. I did get incredibly nauseous during the

>hydrotherapy, and did have the hot releases Ed mentioned.

>

>I was not trying 'not to break the board' at all, the more I relaxed

>I was the more my legs spazzed out! I have done lots of enemas on

>myself and they usually make me feel much better. The cleansing is

>not new, just the colema, which I thought would be more effective. I

>usually feel the enema water up to the flexure at the top of

>descending colon, it goes there naturally. I never really tried to

>get it to go all the way over yet. I seem to be severely impacted

>sometimes and perfectly fluid other times. I think it must be a large

>worm or possibly some matter that is too big to come out and won't

>dissolve.

>

>Is there any supplement I could take to brake up a fecal mass inside

>me? I am very thin in my waist, I only gain weight in my legs.

>

>I think this may be something I've had since birth? (maybe my mother

>took the diet pills with the tapeworms, though I was around 15 years

>ago too! I am 33. I'd be very curious to know the name/brand of those

>pills). I was born with a club foot, corrected by surgery when I was

>7. About ten years ago I started to get the abdominal pains, and they

>started in one place, which I later learned was the corresponding

>reflex point to my left foot. In the last 10 years my whole

>digestive system has become a total mess, I had ulcers, anorexia

>(couldn't eat), IBS, allergies, etc. Also I get sizzling pains in my

>left foot.

>

>Thanks Christel. I put a teaspoon of chlorophyll in the water. Would

>this have caused a problem? I put the bucket at only 20 inches, 20-24

>inches was recommended, that is the only way I can think of to

>control the flow.

>

>I am having major computer problems/crashes, so if it takes a while

>for me to reply that is why.

>

>

>

>> >Dear . I red your story on your first colema.

>>>Your must be really toxic.

>>>when I first started 10 years ago I actually got nauseated and had to

throw

>>>up at the same time. Quite an ordeal;

>>>Leave the colander out if it is to much trouble. You will still see

>>>gallstones and odd subjects if you don't flush. Because they float as

>>>everything else sinks.

>>>What did you put in your colema water?

>>>Try using the less forceful flow at the beginning, you may have better

>>>results. It just takes longer.

>>>Please don't give up. Your colon seems to be very impacted and you need

to

>>>get the stuff out.

>>>Patience, patience, patience.

>>>Love and Light

>> >Christel

>>>

>

>

>Subscription email:

>mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

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<< I put the bucket at only 20 inches, 20-24

inches was recommended, that is the only way I can think of to

control the flow. >>

, the hose from the bucket to the board should have a shut off walve.

Mine has 3 notches. full flow, medium flow and off.Thay is how I control my

waterflow.

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> -you might also consider getting colonic hydrotherapy done - this sure

>helped me in the beginning - and it gets everything GOING ! You could clean

>out using your colema board AFTER that??? just a suggestion....

>wendy

Thanks everyone for replies, I have been VERY nauseous and sick ever

since that colema.

I have had hydrotherapy done 3 times and the therapist was always

able to get some releases from me, however I found the treatment a

little rough, the speculum painful, and also expensive, which is why

I'd like to do it at home. I did get incredibly nauseous during the

hydrotherapy, and did have the hot releases Ed mentioned.

I was not trying 'not to break the board' at all, the more I relaxed

I was the more my legs spazzed out! I have done lots of enemas on

myself and they usually make me feel much better. The cleansing is

not new, just the colema, which I thought would be more effective. I

usually feel the enema water up to the flexure at the top of

descending colon, it goes there naturally. I never really tried to

get it to go all the way over yet. I seem to be severely impacted

sometimes and perfectly fluid other times. I think it must be a large

worm or possibly some matter that is too big to come out and won't

dissolve.

Is there any supplement I could take to brake up a fecal mass inside

me? I am very thin in my waist, I only gain weight in my legs.

I think this may be something I've had since birth? (maybe my mother

took the diet pills with the tapeworms, though I was around 15 years

ago too! I am 33. I'd be very curious to know the name/brand of those

pills). I was born with a club foot, corrected by surgery when I was

7. About ten years ago I started to get the abdominal pains, and they

started in one place, which I later learned was the corresponding

reflex point to my left foot. In the last 10 years my whole

digestive system has become a total mess, I had ulcers, anorexia

(couldn't eat), IBS, allergies, etc. Also I get sizzling pains in my

left foot.

Thanks Christel. I put a teaspoon of chlorophyll in the water. Would

this have caused a problem? I put the bucket at only 20 inches, 20-24

inches was recommended, that is the only way I can think of to

control the flow.

I am having major computer problems/crashes, so if it takes a while

for me to reply that is why.

> >Dear . I red your story on your first colema.

>>Your must be really toxic.

>>when I first started 10 years ago I actually got nauseated and had to throw

>>up at the same time. Quite an ordeal;

>>Leave the colander out if it is to much trouble. You will still see

>>gallstones and odd subjects if you don't flush. Because they float as

>>everything else sinks.

>>What did you put in your colema water?

>>Try using the less forceful flow at the beginning, you may have better

>>results. It just takes longer.

>>Please don't give up. Your colon seems to be very impacted and you need to

>>get the stuff out.

>>Patience, patience, patience.

>>Love and Light

> >Christel

>>

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I go in for my first hydrotherapy session tomorrow... I'm excited about

progressing another step in this fight, but I'm kinda nervous now... yikes...

, I tried a carrot/beet juice blend yesterday, as opposed to my

usual carrot/celery. Maybe it's a coincidence, but I've had like four normal

bowel movements today as opposed to my usual one or two, max.

I wonder if that yellow dock's doing something there, too...

Jonah

Jonah

D & WMcPhail wrote:

- you could have areas of your colon that are

'misformed' (many of us

do) and also could have problems with your peristaltic muscle 'kicking

in'.

I had that problem on first hydrotherapy - and was extremely sick.

I was an

hour and a half before any release and the peristaltic 'waves' had

me in

crushing pain.

There are some naturopaths who have written that most people in 'today's

world' do not have properly 'formed' colons because of the way we are

taught

to eat from early ages... we still survive (!) but we have lots of

problems

in this way. Juicing many times is a big help in this way - consistently

juicing really 'frees' up the colon. The interesting thing about

my 'long

release time' was that for the entire year before I had been doing

serious

herbal cleanses on my own and I knew that I had cleansed out a lot

of

garbage already... but for me the hydrotherapy was a huge help ...

I'm so sorry that you are feeling crummy.... and I truly hope you are

feeling better soon...

wendy

Re: my first colema

>> -you might also consider getting colonic hydrotherapy done -

this

sure

>>helped me in the beginning - and it gets everything GOING !

You could

clean

>>out using your colema board AFTER that??? just a suggestion....

>>wendy

>

>Thanks everyone for replies, I have been VERY nauseous and sick ever

>since that colema.

>

>I have had hydrotherapy done 3 times and the therapist was always

>able to get some releases from me, however I found the treatment a

>little rough, the speculum painful, and also expensive, which is why

>I'd like to do it at home. I did get incredibly nauseous during the

>hydrotherapy, and did have the hot releases Ed mentioned.

>

>I was not trying 'not to break the board' at all, the more I relaxed

>I was the more my legs spazzed out! I have done lots of enemas

on

>myself and they usually make me feel much better. The cleansing is

>not new, just the colema, which I thought would be more effective.

I

>usually feel the enema water up to the flexure at the top of

>descending colon, it goes there naturally. I never really tried to

>get it to go all the way over yet. I seem to be severely impacted

>sometimes and perfectly fluid other times. I think it must be a large

>worm or possibly some matter that is too big to come out and won't

>dissolve.

>

>Is there any supplement I could take to brake up a fecal mass inside

>me? I am very thin in my waist, I only gain weight in my legs.

>

>I think this may be something I've had since birth? (maybe my mother

>took the diet pills with the tapeworms, though I was around 15 years

>ago too! I am 33. I'd be very curious to know the name/brand of those

>pills). I was born with a club foot, corrected by surgery when I was

>7. About ten years ago I started to get the abdominal pains, and they

>started in one place, which I later learned was the corresponding

>reflex point to my left foot. In the last 10 years my whole

>digestive system has become a total mess, I had ulcers, anorexia

>(couldn't eat), IBS, allergies, etc. Also I get sizzling pains in

my

>left foot.

>

>Thanks Christel. I put a teaspoon of chlorophyll in the water.

Would

>this have caused a problem? I put the bucket at only 20 inches, 20-24

>inches was recommended, that is the only way I can think of to

>control the flow.

>

>I am having major computer problems/crashes, so if it takes a while

>for me to reply that is why.

>

>

>

>> >Dear . I red your story on your first colema.

>>>Your must be really toxic.

>>>when I first started 10 years ago I actually got nauseated and had

to

throw

>>>up at the same time. Quite an ordeal;

>>>Leave the colander out if it is to much trouble. You will still

see

>>>gallstones and odd subjects if you don't flush. Because they float

as

>>>everything else sinks.

>>>What did you put in your colema water?

>>>Try using the less forceful flow at the beginning, you may have

better

>>>results. It just takes longer.

>>>Please don't give up. Your colon seems to be very impacted and you

need

to

>>>get the stuff out.

>>>Patience, patience, patience.

>>>Love and Light

>> >Christel

>>>

>

>

>Subscription email:

>mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

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Good luck Jonah - let us know how it goes... also those BEETS are powerful things!!

wendy

Re: my first colema >> -you might also consider getting colonic hydrotherapy done - this sure >>helped me in the beginning - and it gets everything GOING ! You could clean >>out using your colema board AFTER that??? just a suggestion.... >>wendy > >Thanks everyone for replies, I have been VERY nauseous and sick ever >since that colema. > >I have had hydrotherapy done 3 times and the therapist was always >able to get some releases from me, however I found the treatment a >little rough, the speculum painful, and also expensive, which is why >I'd like to do it at home. I did get incredibly nauseous during the >hydrotherapy, and did have the hot releases Ed mentioned. > >I was not trying 'not to break the board' at all, the more I relaxed >I was the more my legs spazzed out! I have done lots of enemas on >myself and they usually make me feel much better. The cleansing is >not new, just the colema, which I thought would be more effective. I >usually feel the enema water up to the flexure at the top of >descending colon, it goes there naturally. I never really tried to >get it to go all the way over yet. I seem to be severely impacted >sometimes and perfectly fluid other times. I think it must be a large >worm or possibly some matter that is too big to come out and won't >dissolve. > >Is there any supplement I could take to brake up a fecal mass inside >me? I am very thin in my waist, I only gain weight in my legs. > >I think this may be something I've had since birth? (maybe my mother >took the diet pills with the tapeworms, though I was around 15 years >ago too! I am 33. I'd be very curious to know the name/brand of those >pills). I was born with a club foot, corrected by surgery when I was >7. About ten years ago I started to get the abdominal pains, and they >started in one place, which I later learned was the corresponding >reflex point to my left foot. In the last 10 years my whole >digestive system has become a total mess, I had ulcers, anorexia >(couldn't eat), IBS, allergies, etc. Also I get sizzling pains in my >left foot. > >Thanks Christel. I put a teaspoon of chlorophyll in the water. Would >this have caused a problem? I put the bucket at only 20 inches, 20-24 >inches was recommended, that is the only way I can think of to >control the flow. > >I am having major computer problems/crashes, so if it takes a while >for me to reply that is why. > > > >> >Dear . I red your story on your first colema. >>>Your must be really toxic. >>>when I first started 10 years ago I actually got nauseated and had to throw >>>up at the same time. Quite an ordeal; >>>Leave the colander out if it is to much trouble. You will still see >>>gallstones and odd subjects if you don't flush. Because they float as >>>everything else sinks. >>>What did you put in your colema water? >>>Try using the less forceful flow at the beginning, you may have better >>>results. It just takes longer. >>>Please don't give up. Your colon seems to be very impacted and you need to >>>get the stuff out. >>>Patience, patience, patience. >>>Love and Light >> >Christel >>> > > >Subscription email: >mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups >

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thanks for that advice. I was told once that I could do major harm by going

any further than two or three inches, even if inserted very gently. I will

try it now, since you have done it without problems. Thanks again.

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julie, if the hose to your colema does not have a notched clamp you cn get one with most enemaq bags now. mine enema hose has 5 notches that i find i can always get the rate of flow that is comfortable for me. fred

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In a message dated 4/2/01 9:19:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Christelti@... writes:

, the hose from the bucket to the board should have a shut off walve.

Mine has 3 notches. full flow, medium flow and off.Thay is how I control my waterflow.

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Hi Christel,

I have been following the thread on colemas and I have my own board but wish to check out some sites and send info on them to an acquaintance who is interested in colemas. Can you tell me where you got your board and also where I can find some info to pass on?

Namaste,

HerbalMomma

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In a message dated 4/1/01 12:09:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jules@... writes:

Can anyone shed any light on my experience? Is it just a giant worm obstruction?

Hi ,

I never had that experience. I always use warm water so that it will relax the colon so the water will get in further. I have had a couple of cramps but not the leg shaking. I just stopped the flow and massaged the abdomen till they were gone.

Namaste,

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I have never done it but I wonder if anyone is trying a high enema

with plastic tip? I would think that the prudent thing to use would be the

rubber tubing with formed bulb end. this way there is no chance of tip

coming off, solid edges to catch on any folds or turns either on insertion

or removal. You might have to turn the tubing to loosen it during either

insertion or removal. Any comments out there for those with experience to

share? Ed

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