Re: Digest Number 1750

August 28, 2001

Salem 1o5 (do you have an easier name for us to use? Not too important.) I thought of the eyedrops that people said they liked -- GenTeel. My husband hated them, but it turned out he was using the gel version in the daytime, causing him to see blurrily.

I've never used the Sarna, so I don't know how well it works. I tried Aveena oatmeal baths, but they didn't do much for me. I did find a lambswool duster helped keep me from scratching at the worst of times. Olain cornstarch (NOT talc, not even baby cornstarch-based talc) to be helpful. Talc was far too abrasive, and that GoldBond anti-itch powder stung badly.

Atarax was very good, and even high dosages seem to be safe.

Harper

August 28, 2001

Flatcat9: My name is . I have tried Aveena baths. It was relaxing, but nothing really helps. My skin feels real dry. I only itch at night, not always bad. I thought maybe fleas or dust mites, but no one else felt them.

Anyway, thanks for the name of the drops. I will try to get some. Take care.

August 28, 2001

Lia, I had bad cramps on 40mg of Lasix. I started eating a banana daily and

taking potassium pills. My hepatologist changed me to 20mg of Lasix and

Spironolactone (I forget the mg's).

Shireen, yes fatty liver causes fatigue. Almost any liver disease will do

that since the liver is also responsible for how much energy you have.

Also, my mom has PBC and COPD and has fatigue. I would imagine both

contribute to the extent of fatigue you have.

With AIH, PBC and perimenopause, I have a terrible time sleeping. Yesterday

I decided that the sound I hated most was NOT fingernails on a blackboard;

it was my alarm clock, LOL - since I'm still working full time,

" drag-assing " it to the office each day!

Salem1o5 - The eye lubricant is Refresh. I keep the P.M. ointment in my

nightstand. The anti-itch thing she (Harper?) was probably referring to is

Sarna, which never did me a damned bit of good. I recommend Atarax

(prescript) and AmLactin 12%, nonprescript but behind the pharmacy counter.

Do your legs bother you because of Restless Leg Syndrome or potassium

deficiency? Also, I met someone here (Austin) who has PBC and her doc

told her if her liver ever became cirrhotic (sp?) that she could no longer

wear contacts. Don't know what your liver biopsy shows re cirrhosis. One

final comment: prednisone can have a muscle wasting effect.

Gloria, yes, the pred does cause easy bruising. And now you have someone to

talk to. In fact you have many knowledgable and caring people to talk to.

You are home. We understand.

KK

January 13, 2004

, your list looks like secretor beneficials, which I'm not quite as

familiar with as a nonnie. I would cross-reference against TYPEbase on

www.dadamo.com to double-check that no values have changed.

Awwww, Max, brownies with a sweet personality . . . ! ::blush::

You know, I have not tried the sweet potato brownies. I'll be interested if any

of you secretors try them out and like them, or modify them to the point that

you like them. We nonnies sometimes develop some tolerance and appreciation for

some odd tasting things, I think! lol. I somehow am very sensitive to ALL

sweeteners, including veggie glycerine (at least the brand I have tried so far,

NOW). I ordered another brand Starwest that another very sensitive O nonnie

found worked for her, but have yet to try it.

Some ideas for grass-fed beef that is very low in fat so that it's not

tough. . . saute'/fry/grill in olive oil or other beneficial oil on the stove

to help keep it from drying out . . . marinate before cooking . . . cook roasts

and stews with plenty of water for a long time at low temps (overnight in a

crockpot is one of my favorites). Here's a description of the taste of the

pastured, grass-fed, organic beef, that I wrote for my nonnie list:

What was better than I expected? . . . hmmmm, something about the flavor. It

was richer and fuller, had more depth. It reminded me of venison in

terms of what people sometimes describe as a gamey taste, but it

really wasn't gamey. I think the fat tasted different, too, more like

a rich, healthy oil like olive oil (and it was *different* than when

I've cooked corn-fed organic beef in olive oil before) rather than

the taste of corn-fed beef fat which seems indulgent, heavy, almost

gross. Sometimes the non-organic fat even tastes kinda like chemicals

to me. I found it interesting that I didn't have *any* fat to " spoon

off " . . . so apparently the meat is somewhat low fat. I just don't

think I could have imagined that taste without tasting it. It

tasted " whole " somehow. I'm getting to the point where I can describe

kinesthetically where in my mouth I want more or less " something "

when I'm seasoning with spices . . . and I know which spices will do

the trick, but I'm not sure how to describe the beef better.

Definitely a full, rich flavor without being gross from too much

richness / fat.

As you can tell, I really like the flavor of the grass-fed beef I was able to

find, actually preferring it to corn-fed beef.

ita

January 13, 2004

If you cook anything in Olive Oil, beware of the smoke point. I think it is

relatively low and after the smoke point is reached the oil I believe morphs

into trans fatty acids (TFAs) which is a bad thing. Especially if you see

virgin olive oil or cold pressed. These oils are meant for low temperature

use. But any olive oil will still have a low smoke point. I think its in

the low 200s. As opposed to Macadamia Nut Oil which I think is in the 400s.

Anyone know better specifics? Pardon my typing. I'm typing on myt home

computer from my work desktop and the lag makes typing a challenge.

_____

From: ita Ellie [mailto:pebb7d@...]

Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:54 AM

Subject: Re: Digest Number 1750

, your list looks like secretor beneficials, which I'm not quite as

familiar with as a nonnie. I would cross-reference against TYPEbase on

www.dadamo.com to double-check that no values have changed.

Awwww, Max, brownies with a sweet personality . . . ! ::blush::

You know, I have not tried the sweet potato brownies. I'll be interested if

any

of you secretors try them out and like them, or modify them to the point

that

you like them. We nonnies sometimes develop some tolerance and appreciation

for

some odd tasting things, I think! lol. I somehow am very sensitive to ALL

sweeteners, including veggie glycerine (at least the brand I have tried so

far,

NOW). I ordered another brand Starwest that another very sensitive O nonnie

found worked for her, but have yet to try it.

Some ideas for grass-fed beef that is very low in fat so that it's not

tough. . . saute'/fry/grill in olive oil or other beneficial oil on the

stove

to help keep it from drying out . . . marinate before cooking . . . cook

roasts