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Hi,

I thought I would just chime in here and say about 20 years ago I was

having a LOT of pain from the waist down. They did a bone scan to

check for " hot spots " and arthritis and one SI joint was badly

inflamed. They didn't do anything about it, said it was probably just

a fluke! I don't think so. I still have that kind of pain from time

to time.

Kathy

>

> Bonnie,

> After reading a few debates on SI pain vs. disc pain, I asked Dr.

> LaGrone about how the true source can be determined. He said, it

can't.

> But, of all the surgeries he's done, he has only gone back in and

fused

> one SI joint. So, then I decided that I would probably be the ONE

MORE

> that needed this in order to be pain free. Then, I decided to hope

and

> pray that my planned surgeries will do the trick and not worry

about my

> SI joint. I don't remember reading any articles about SI pain after

> long fusions, specifically, but if I come across something, I will

post

> it here.

> kam

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I had questioned Doctor Rand on the liklihood of SI problems and while he didn't

rule out the possibility of trouble down the road with SI joints, neither did

he seem to think I should expext it. It was in the context of theis conversation

that he said absolutley NO POWER WALKING!! I can see if there is a lot of torque

from a long, powerful stride and the only thing that can still move is that

joint...well, probably best not to test it out. He also advised Ann to get some

gel inserts for shoes...probably not a bad idea either.

>

> Bonnie,

> After reading a few debates on SI pain vs. disc pain, I asked Dr.

> LaGrone about how the true source can be determined. He said, it can't.

> But, of all the surgeries he's done, he has only gone back in and fused

> one SI joint. So, then I decided that I would probably be the ONE MORE

> that needed this in order to be pain free. Then, I decided to hope and

> pray that my planned surgeries will do the trick and not worry about my

> SI joint. I don't remember reading any articles about SI pain after

> long fusions, specifically, but if I come across something, I will post

> it here.

> kam

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, look at Cam's x-rays on the site. She has 2 frightfully long screws

sticking down into her pelvic bone. Those are the iliac bolts, if I

understand correctly.

[ ] SI joints

>>

>>

>> > Can someone fill me in on the SI joint stuff?/ I have ignored

> most of

>> > the talk about this becasue I was so focused on the revision

>> > surgery..my brain did not have space for any other talk....I saw

> a few

>> > posts about it and I am wondering if that will affect me at some

>> > point..I would appreciate a full explanation on SI or a related

> web

>> > site so I can see what my next problem might be......, PA

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates

>> >

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Yikes!! I see them!! .PA

- In , " Sharon Green "

<sharon.green18@...> wrote:

>

> , look at Cam's x-rays on the site. She has 2 frightfully long

screws

> sticking down into her pelvic bone. Those are the iliac bolts, if

I

> understand correctly.

>

>

> [ ] SI joints

> >>

> >>

> >> > Can someone fill me in on the SI joint stuff?/ I have ignored

> > most of

> >> > the talk about this becasue I was so focused on the revision

> >> > surgery..my brain did not have space for any other talk....I

saw

> > a few

> >> > posts about it and I am wondering if that will affect me at

some

> >> > point..I would appreciate a full explanation on SI or a related

> > web

> >> > site so I can see what my next problem might be......, PA

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates

> >> >

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Yikes!! I see them!! .PA

- In , " Sharon Green "

<sharon.green18@...> wrote:

>

> , look at Cam's x-rays on the site. She has 2 frightfully long

screws

> sticking down into her pelvic bone. Those are the iliac bolts, if

I

> understand correctly.

>

>

> [ ] SI joints

> >>

> >>

> >> > Can someone fill me in on the SI joint stuff?/ I have ignored

> > most of

> >> > the talk about this becasue I was so focused on the revision

> >> > surgery..my brain did not have space for any other talk....I

saw

> > a few

> >> > posts about it and I am wondering if that will affect me at

some

> >> > point..I would appreciate a full explanation on SI or a related

> > web

> >> > site so I can see what my next problem might be......, PA

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates

> >> >

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Hi Ann...

I’ve heard doctors tell patients that it looked like one or more levels self fused. I think it’s pretty common in elderly patients with large curves who never had surgery.

Regards,

On 9/7/06 6:36 AM, " ae_mcd2003 " <ae_mcd2003@...> wrote:

, thanks for the links, I too read the information with qreat

interest. Have you heard anything about self-fusing? I see Rand on the

21st and I plan on asking him. I will be sure to share.

Ann

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my pain management doc thought my SI joints looked like they had fused from the bar across my pelvis holding them together so tightly, but he injected some dye into them and saw that they are not fused.

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Bonnie, was it you who said she has trouble with her SI joints? I

would like to talk to you about it. I have started having alot of

pain in my SI's since I started physical therapy. Of course, the idea

of PT is to strengthen and stabilize my core muscles. If that is ever

possible!! Right now it seems that I will never be able to accomplish

it. My back and body have been messed up now for over 30 yrs after

the original HR surgery, and now, that I have NO movement at all in

my pelvis and lower back, my SI's are screaming!!! Now I realize that

some of that " lower back pain " I had before my surgery in March was

due to SI pain. Is there anything that can be done for it other than

wearing a support belt? I realize by going that route I will short-

circuit any gains from the PT, but right now I feel desperate. I went

to PT today and I cannot move without them hurting! Especially

standing and walking around. I also get excruciating pain trying to

get out of bed. I don't think there would be any pain pill that could

even begin to touch this. If there is, I'm sure it would put me in

bed, because I'd be practically unconscious from the strength of it.

Any thoughts and help, anyone, I'd appreciate it.

Carol V. (CA)

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Carol,

I've never heard of a support device for SI joint pain. Could you

tell me about it?

I've got to get my next pain doc appointment before I'm sure, but you

might be able to get a nerve block for your lower back.

>

> Bonnie, was it you who said she has trouble with her SI joints? I

> would like to talk to you about it. I have started having alot of

> pain in my SI's since I started physical therapy. Of course, the

idea

> of PT is to strengthen and stabilize my core muscles. If that is

ever

> possible!! Right now it seems that I will never be able to

accomplish

> it. My back and body have been messed up now for over 30 yrs after

> the original HR surgery, and now, that I have NO movement at all in

> my pelvis and lower back, my SI's are screaming!!! Now I realize

that

> some of that " lower back pain " I had before my surgery in March was

> due to SI pain. Is there anything that can be done for it other

than

> wearing a support belt? I realize by going that route I will short-

> circuit any gains from the PT, but right now I feel desperate. I

went

> to PT today and I cannot move without them hurting! Especially

> standing and walking around. I also get excruciating pain trying to

> get out of bed. I don't think there would be any pain pill that

could

> even begin to touch this. If there is, I'm sure it would put me in

> bed, because I'd be practically unconscious from the strength of

it.

> Any thoughts and help, anyone, I'd appreciate it.

>

> Carol V. (CA)

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Dear Carol,

Bonnie and have SI joint issues, both would be good resources for what they have done to deal with it. Did Dr. Hu diagnosis your SI joint problems? What has she said they'd try to address it, injections, blocks, med's , therapy etc? With the pain you are in, did she suggest pain mgt?

I know this has really gotten you down, as it would anyone, so if you need someone to talk with, I'm here. Here's my personal e-mail .Kirkaldie@... , just e-mail me and I'll send along my #'s to you. Just like addressing the Flatback, this SI joint problem is another set of challenges to get you more comfortable. I've seen Bonnie in action, and despite her SI problems she's doing fairly well with the help of therapy, pain mgt and exercises. I'm so sorry, but as with all things scoliosis, we meet the next challenge, and do the best to get ourselves as comfortable as possible. Know I'm thinking about you, and I'm sure and Bonnie will reach out to you with what has worked for them and what they have tried, and if you need someone to talk it all out with I'm here!

Colorado Springs

[ ] SI Joints

Bonnie, was it you who said she has trouble with her SI joints? I would like to talk to you about it. I have started having alot of pain in my SI's since I started physical therapy. Of course, the idea of PT is to strengthen and stabilize my core muscles. If that is ever possible!! Right now it seems that I will never be able to accomplish it. My back and body have been messed up now for over 30 yrs after the original HR surgery, and now, that I have NO movement at all in my pelvis and lower back, my SI's are screaming!!! Now I realize that some of that "lower back pain" I had before my surgery in March was due to SI pain. Is there anything that can be done for it other than wearing a support belt? I realize by going that route I will short-circuit any gains from the PT, but right now I feel desperate. I went to PT today and I cannot move without them hurting! Especially standing and walking around. I also get excruciating pain trying to get out of bed. I don't think there would be any pain pill that could even begin to touch this. If there is, I'm sure it would put me in bed, because I'd be practically unconscious from the strength of it. Any thoughts and help, anyone, I'd appreciate it. Carol V. (CA)

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I've found, , that medical doctors don't seem to view the SI

Joint as much of anything. I haven't asked my surgeon exactly about

it, but I will when I see her in Sept. It's something that PT's and

Chiropractors usually talk about. I'm currently doing PT, and they

said that's what's hurting. I try so hard to hold in my stomach

muscles and pelvic floor muscles, but it's hard!! I went online and

googled " Sacroiliac brace " or something like that, and got some hits.

Some look like they would help, and others, not.

If I can even strengthen my core muscles to accomplish the pain-free

situation, I will have to work very hard. I've learned from you and

others here that it's very difficult to find any injections that seem

to help, and obviously, STRONG ENOUGH pain pills don't help, either.

I want to go back to work in a few months and hopefully not be on any

pain meds. Or, at least, a very mild one. I would have to be on

morphine or something as strong to take the pain away. Luckily, I

don't have the pain all the time. Only when I move certain ways. But

they are the ways I have to move!

Thanks

Carol V.

> >

> > Bonnie, was it you who said she has trouble with her SI joints? I

> > would like to talk to you about it. I have started having alot of

> > pain in my SI's since I started physical therapy. Of course, the

> idea

> > of PT is to strengthen and stabilize my core muscles. If that is

> ever

> > possible!! Right now it seems that I will never be able to

> accomplish

> > it. My back and body have been messed up now for over 30 yrs

after

> > the original HR surgery, and now, that I have NO movement at all

in

> > my pelvis and lower back, my SI's are screaming!!! Now I realize

> that

> > some of that " lower back pain " I had before my surgery in March

was

> > due to SI pain. Is there anything that can be done for it other

> than

> > wearing a support belt? I realize by going that route I will

short-

> > circuit any gains from the PT, but right now I feel desperate. I

> went

> > to PT today and I cannot move without them hurting! Especially

> > standing and walking around. I also get excruciating pain trying

to

> > get out of bed. I don't think there would be any pain pill that

> could

> > even begin to touch this. If there is, I'm sure it would put me

in

> > bed, because I'd be practically unconscious from the strength of

> it.

> > Any thoughts and help, anyone, I'd appreciate it.

> >

> > Carol V. (CA)

>

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Carol,

Hmmm....if you are feeling okay in the brace, and not without it,

doesn't that point to something at work other than the SI joint? I am

thinking you might find that DrHu thinks your iliac screws are the

culprit. Perhaps without your brace on coupled with lack of core

muscle strength you might be leaning forward enough to pull of the

screws? I know up until around 18 months I hated needing to lean

forward to unload the dishwasher or pick something up because I felt

like I was tugging on those implants. It didn't hurt as you

described...more of a pressure sensation. I don't notice it

anymore...but I will say that now before I attempt to lean forward it

is second nature to remind myself to " get ahold of my abs " so that my

spine is supported before I start to do something in that plane.

Anyway, I am sorry to hear that you are still bothered and in pain. I

hope that you are able to find ways to stenghen yourself enough that

your own torso muscles act as a brace. Speaking of which....why don't

you just keep using the brace when you are out and about if it seems

like it helps? It might be better than getting an SI belt on. I used

such a belt before surgery and I am sure it weakend my abs...so

consult with Dr Hu about your options before you proceed!

Thats my $.02 or 2DKK!

Take Care, Cam

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Dear Carol,

Cam has chimed in on a good point, maybe because the pain is sharp, and only when you do certain moves, that would make me think bolts first and not SI joints, but of course I haven't felt SI problem pain, but know the bolts can be troublesome, and I would exhaust that with your doc first. And while PT people are great, they aren't doc's, and a diagnosis of SI problems should really come from your doc. I have tweeked my bolts once picking up the Granddaughter, and it was sharp and hard but only when I did certain moves, especially getting up from laying down. I would also want this pain explored by your doc, just to make sure you didn't have a non-union at L5-S1, that all looks good. I know you are a distance from Dr. Hu, but call and talk to her about this pain and get seen if need be. I especially wouldn't do that brace you are thinking of without consulting her. If you leave her out of the mix, how can she help. I know that some of us will need the bolts out, and maybe thats whats happening with you, or you do have SI issues, but please explore this with your doc, especially since you are still fairly early in your recovery and all those fusions aren't rock solid yet. I'm so sorry you are in pain, but getting a medical plan to deal with it seems important now, not waiting till you see her in Sept. I was talking with Kim today, and she was very impressed with UCSF and how available they are to patients by phone, so I'd call and ask about this pain and see what they have to say, and what they would do for it. I'm holding good thoughts for you!

Colorado Springs

[ ] Re: SI Joints

I've found, , that medical doctors don't seem to view the SI Joint as much of anything. I haven't asked my surgeon exactly about it, but I will when I see her in Sept. It's something that PT's and Chiropractors usually talk about. I'm currently doing PT, and they said that's what's hurting. I try so hard to hold in my stomach muscles and pelvic floor muscles, but it's hard!! I went online and googled "Sacroiliac brace" or something like that, and got some hits. Some look like they would help, and others, not. If I can even strengthen my core muscles to accomplish the pain-free situation, I will have to work very hard. I've learned from you and others here that it's very difficult to find any injections that seem to help, and obviously, STRONG ENOUGH pain pills don't help, either. I want to go back to work in a few months and hopefully not be on any pain meds. Or, at least, a very mild one. I would have to be on morphine or something as strong to take the pain away. Luckily, I don't have the pain all the time. Only when I move certain ways. But they are the ways I have to move! Thanks Carol V. > >> > Bonnie, was it you who said she has trouble with her SI joints? I > > would like to talk to you about it. I have started having alot of > > pain in my SI's since I started physical therapy. Of course, the > idea > > of PT is to strengthen and stabilize my core muscles. If that is > ever > > possible!! Right now it seems that I will never be able to > accomplish > > it. My back and body have been messed up now for over 30 yrs after > > the original HR surgery, and now, that I have NO movement at all in > > my pelvis and lower back, my SI's are screaming!!! Now I realize > that > > some of that "lower back pain" I had before my surgery in March was > > due to SI pain. Is there anything that can be done for it other > than > > wearing a support belt? I realize by going that route I will short-> > circuit any gains from the PT, but right now I feel desperate. I > went > > to PT today and I cannot move without them hurting! Especially > > standing and walking around. I also get excruciating pain trying to > > get out of bed. I don't think there would be any pain pill that > could > > even begin to touch this. If there is, I'm sure it would put me in > > bed, because I'd be practically unconscious from the strength of > it. > > Any thoughts and help, anyone, I'd appreciate it. > > > > Carol V. (CA)>

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Yes, , I will e-mail Dr. Hu. She's very good about writing back.

I haven't done anything about belts or anything. It was something I

was just checking online. All I know is that I mentioned this pain

when I saw Dr. Hu in late June, and the fellow pushed on my bolts and

there was no pain when he did that. I guess that's a foolproof way of

checking?? I don't really now. I do know that when he did that to

she almost fell to the floor. For me, nothing. Dr. Hu did say

there was no sign of any of the screws or bolts moving....I guess

there's a way to see that on X-rays, so at that time it reassured me

that my iliac screws were OK. I can tell a tugging at the

bolts/screws sometimes, and it is not the same excruciating pain that

I'm feeling.

I have one more visit with the PT people, and I will bring a copy of

my X-rays. I keep forgetting to bring them. Maybe that way, they can

really pinpoint where the pain is coming from, and see if it could be

the bolts. I will try to get a few more visits OK'd for PT, but it

depends on the insurance. We only have a maximum of $1,500. per year

for that (and chiropractic together).

Carol V.

> > >

> > > Bonnie, was it you who said she has trouble with her SI

joints? I

> > > would like to talk to you about it. I have started having

alot of

> > > pain in my SI's since I started physical therapy. Of course,

the

> > idea

> > > of PT is to strengthen and stabilize my core muscles. If that

is

> > ever

> > > possible!! Right now it seems that I will never be able to

> > accomplish

> > > it. My back and body have been messed up now for over 30 yrs

> after

> > > the original HR surgery, and now, that I have NO movement at

all

> in

> > > my pelvis and lower back, my SI's are screaming!!! Now I

realize

> > that

> > > some of that " lower back pain " I had before my surgery in

March

> was

> > > due to SI pain. Is there anything that can be done for it

other

> > than

> > > wearing a support belt? I realize by going that route I will

> short-

> > > circuit any gains from the PT, but right now I feel

desperate. I

> > went

> > > to PT today and I cannot move without them hurting!

Especially

> > > standing and walking around. I also get excruciating pain

trying

> to

> > > get out of bed. I don't think there would be any pain pill

that

> > could

> > > even begin to touch this. If there is, I'm sure it would put

me

> in

> > > bed, because I'd be practically unconscious from the strength

of

> > it.

> > > Any thoughts and help, anyone, I'd appreciate it.

> > >

> > > Carol V. (CA)

> >

>

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Dear Carol,

My insurance sucks too for PT, and 1500.00 is nothing,when one session of PT was 150 to 225 each session, and thats with a 500.00 dollar deductable. I got through dealing with my very sore elbows from over using my grabbers by icing them and leaving the grabbers alone, would have loved PT but you have to make choices.

Sounds like you have addressed a lot with this pain, I wish you luck as you work through this, maybe HU will have some answers for you.

Hang in there, and be persistant till you get some kind of answers, and ask for a pain mgt consult if you can't function. Keep us updated on what she has to say, and know I'm pulling for you that you can get some kind of treatment to make this pain more tolerable.

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Yes, , I will e-mail Dr. Hu. She's very good about writing back. I haven't done anything about belts or anything. It was something I was just checking online. All I know is that I mentioned this pain when I saw Dr. Hu in late June, and the fellow pushed on my bolts and there was no pain when he did that. I guess that's a foolproof way of checking?? I don't really now. I do know that when he did that to she almost fell to the floor. For me, nothing. Dr. Hu did say there was no sign of any of the screws or bolts moving....I guess there's a way to see that on X-rays, so at that time it reassured me that my iliac screws were OK. I can tell a tugging at the bolts/screws sometimes, and it is not the same excruciating pain that I'm feeling. I have one more visit with the PT people, and I will bring a copy of my X-rays. I keep forgetting to bring them. Maybe that way, they can really pinpoint where the pain is coming from, and see if it could be the bolts. I will try to get a few more visits OK'd for PT, but it depends on the insurance. We only have a maximum of $1,500. per year for that (and chiropractic together).Carol V. > > >> > > Bonnie, was it you who said she has trouble with her SI joints? I > > > would like to talk to you about it. I have started having alot of > > > pain in my SI's since I started physical therapy. Of course, the > > idea > > > of PT is to strengthen and stabilize my core muscles. If that is > > ever > > > possible!! Right now it seems that I will never be able to > > accomplish > > > it. My back and body have been messed up now for over 30 yrs > after > > > the original HR surgery, and now, that I have NO movement at all > in > > > my pelvis and lower back, my SI's are screaming!!! Now I realize > > that > > > some of that "lower back pain" I had before my surgery in March > was > > > due to SI pain. Is there anything that can be done for it other > > than > > > wearing a support belt? I realize by going that route I will > short-> > > circuit any gains from the PT, but right now I feel desperate. I > > went > > > to PT today and I cannot move without them hurting! Especially > > > standing and walking around. I also get excruciating pain trying > to > > > get out of bed. I don't think there would be any pain pill that > > could > > > even begin to touch this. If there is, I'm sure it would put me > in > > > bed, because I'd be practically unconscious from the strength of > > it. > > > Any thoughts and help, anyone, I'd appreciate it. > > > > > > Carol V. (CA)> >>

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Hi Carol V,

When I wrote to you earlier today, I forgot to speak about the pain you get when getting out of bed. Are you still doing the log roll? If not, I would try that. It might help. I still do it.

Bonnie

[ ] SI Joints> > > Bonnie, was it you who said she has trouble with her SI joints? I > would like to talk to you about it. I have started having alot of > pain in my SI's since I started physical therapy. Of course, the idea > of PT is to strengthen and stabilize my core muscles. If that is ever > possible!! Right now it seems that I will never be able to accomplish > it. My back and body have been messed up now for over 30 yrs after > the original HR surgery, and now, that I have NO movement at all in > my pelvis and lower back, my SI's are screaming!!! Now I realize that > some of that "lower back pain" I had before my surgery in March was > due to SI pain. Is there anything that can be done for it other than > wearing a support belt? I realize by going that route I will short-> circuit any gains from the PT, but right now I feel desperate. I went > to PT today and I cannot move without them hurting! Especially > standing and walking around. I also get excruciating pain trying to > get out of bed. I don't think there would be any pain pill that could > even begin to touch this. If there is, I'm sure it would put me in > bed, because I'd be practically unconscious from the strength of it. > Any thoughts and help, anyone, I'd appreciate it. > > Carol V. (CA)>

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Yes, I'm doing the logroll every time I get out of bed--don't have a

choice, ya know? I lay on the left side of the bed, and that's the

worst side for pain. At PT, I try to get up from my right side--it

hurts less. If it's not the SI, then it must be the bolt/screw on

that side. I have some doosy of bolt heads in my pelvis if you can

see them on the side view X-rays. The left one is larger--sticks out

a lot more.

Carol

> >

> > Dear Carol,

> >

> > Bonnie and have SI joint issues, both would be good

resources

> for what they have done to deal with it. Did Dr. Hu diagnosis

your SI

> joint problems? What has she said they'd try to address it,

> injections, blocks, med's , therapy etc? With the pain you are

in,

> did she suggest pain mgt?

> >

> > I know this has really gotten you down, as it would anyone, so

if

> you need someone to talk with, I'm here. Here's my personal e-

mail

> .Kirkaldie@ , just e-mail me and I'll send along my #'s to

> you. Just like addressing the Flatback, this SI joint problem is

> another set of challenges to get you more comfortable. I've seen

> Bonnie in action, and despite her SI problems she's doing fairly

well

> with the help of therapy, pain mgt and exercises. I'm so sorry,

but

> as with all things scoliosis, we meet the next challenge, and do

the

> best to get ourselves as comfortable as possible. Know I'm

thinking

> about you, and I'm sure and Bonnie will reach out to you

with

> what has worked for them and what they have tried, and if you

need

> someone to talk it all out with I'm here!

> >

> >

> > Colorado Springs

> > [ ] SI Joints

> >

> >

> > Bonnie, was it you who said she has trouble with her SI joints?

I

> > would like to talk to you about it. I have started having alot

of

> > pain in my SI's since I started physical therapy. Of course,

the

> idea

> > of PT is to strengthen and stabilize my core muscles. If that

is

> ever

> > possible!! Right now it seems that I will never be able to

> accomplish

> > it. My back and body have been messed up now for over 30 yrs

> after

> > the original HR surgery, and now, that I have NO movement at

all

> in

> > my pelvis and lower back, my SI's are screaming!!! Now I

realize

> that

> > some of that " lower back pain " I had before my surgery in March

> was

> > due to SI pain. Is there anything that can be done for it other

> than

> > wearing a support belt? I realize by going that route I will

> short-

> > circuit any gains from the PT, but right now I feel desperate.

I

> went

> > to PT today and I cannot move without them hurting! Especially

> > standing and walking around. I also get excruciating pain

trying

> to

> > get out of bed. I don't think there would be any pain pill that

> could

> > even begin to touch this. If there is, I'm sure it would put me

> in

> > bed, because I'd be practically unconscious from the strength

of

> it.

> > Any thoughts and help, anyone, I'd appreciate it.

> >

> > Carol V. (CA)

> >

>

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I know I have " minor to moderate degenerative changes " in both SI

joints. That's what the CT scan that I had before surgery showed. I

guess that means arthritis?!

Carol

> > >

> > > Bonnie, was it you who said she has trouble with her SI

joints? I

> > > would like to talk to you about it. I have started having

alot of

> > > pain in my SI's since I started physical therapy. Of

course, the

> > idea

> > > of PT is to strengthen and stabilize my core muscles. If

that is

> > ever

> > > possible!! Right now it seems that I will never be able to

> > accomplish

> > > it. My back and body have been messed up now for over 30

yrs

> after

> > > the original HR surgery, and now, that I have NO movement

at all

> in

> > > my pelvis and lower back, my SI's are screaming!!! Now I

realize

> > that

> > > some of that " lower back pain " I had before my surgery in

March

> was

> > > due to SI pain. Is there anything that can be done for it

other

> > than

> > > wearing a support belt? I realize by going that route I

will

> short-

> > > circuit any gains from the PT, but right now I feel

desperate. I

> > went

> > > to PT today and I cannot move without them hurting!

Especially

> > > standing and walking around. I also get excruciating pain

trying

> to

> > > get out of bed. I don't think there would be any pain pill

that

> > could

> > > even begin to touch this. If there is, I'm sure it would

put me

> in

> > > bed, because I'd be practically unconscious from the

strength of

> > it.

> > > Any thoughts and help, anyone, I'd appreciate it.

> > >

> > > Carol V. (CA)

> >

>

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